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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 14:59 GMT
#341
Well that + you called my posts good.
No gg, No skill.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:05 GMT
#342
I said that I like the points that you bring up, but I don't like the way you are bringing them up. They don't flow well. I can't explain it -- something's just awry - I feel like your town game is more fluid.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:11 GMT
#343
I'm conflicted about the grail too.

1) I don't know if I trust geript right now
2) I want the grail because I know I'm town and don't know anyone else's alignment 100%, but at the same time, I'm not confident in my reads right now.

3) While point 2 makes me think I might not be a good candidate for the grail, I think this point makes me an excellent candidate. I think because my reads aren't all that confident and solidified, I think I'll be alive for a long time. As games progress, my reads get better and better.

I encourage all of those reading me even remotely town to put your faith in me. I'm a huge pussy when I'm mafia, and I don't post and I don't express myself well. I assure you that if you put your faith in me, I will lead town to victory.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 15:12 GMT
#344
On September 05 2014 00:05 IAmRobik wrote:
I said that I like the points that you bring up, but I don't like the way you are bringing them up. They don't flow well. I can't explain it -- something's just awry - I feel like your town game is more fluid.

I dont know what you mean by this man, but it doesnt make any sense.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 15:13 GMT
#345
How many games have you seen people with good reads rather than good players die to mafia kills?
As mafia, do you target people who are right or people who are good?

No gg, No skill.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:14 GMT
#346
On September 04 2014 14:42 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 14:37 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:30 slOosh wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:28 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:24 slOosh wrote:
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.

I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions.


agree with gobble, not sylencia.

Cool. Could you elaborate on the difference you perceive? Because I'm of the opinion their approaches to it are similar.


didn't i just say the difference in my previous post? like literally the post before this? (actually 2 i think)

Oh ... I guess I misunderstood. I think the setup discussion is townish, and I'm reading gobbleygook and sylencia town for their setup discussion. Not null, but town. It looks like they want to figure out what's best for town with regards to how we apply blue actions. I'm not bothered by the lack of substantive reads at this point, since the day just started. On that note, they are trying to get something in thread going instead of just sitting back and waiting.

Do you read the setup talk null? If so, what about gobbleygook do you read town?

This post is really townie. It's not what he's saying, but it's the format of it.

Sloosh answers a question and gives his opinion. He takes a hard stance and then he asks questions. Yeah, this is easy to replicate, but it just gives me good feels
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2014 15:15 GMT
#347
That post felt really bad from a momentum perspective.
You started off tentatively then point 2 is pretty contradictory, point 3 a lotta "I think". and then the last part is really confident.

Not consistent man.
No gg, No skill.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:17 GMT
#348
On September 05 2014 00:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
How many games have you seen people with good reads rather than good players die to mafia kills?
As mafia, do you target people who are right or people who are good?


Preferably both, but generally just people who are good. I know it's counter-intuitive, but good players have way more influence than shitty players and I feel like I can out talk and out convince a bad player if push comes to shove.

Not that it matters this game.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:20 GMT
#349
On September 05 2014 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
That post felt really bad from a momentum perspective.
You started off tentatively then point 2 is pretty contradictory, point 3 a lotta "I think". and then the last part is really confident.

Not consistent man.

idgaf? It's how I feel about the game.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:21 GMT
#350
And what's wrong with "I think".

Thinking is scummy? lol
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:26 GMT
#351
On September 04 2014 14:50 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 14:42 slOosh wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:37 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:30 slOosh wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:28 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:24 slOosh wrote:
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.

I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions.


agree with gobble, not sylencia.

Cool. Could you elaborate on the difference you perceive? Because I'm of the opinion their approaches to it are similar.


didn't i just say the difference in my previous post? like literally the post before this? (actually 2 i think)

Oh ... I guess I misunderstood. I think the setup discussion is townish, and I'm reading gobbleygook and sylencia town for their setup discussion. Not null, but town. It looks like they want to figure out what's best for town with regards to how we apply blue actions. I'm not bothered by the lack of substantive reads at this point, since the day just started. On that note, they are trying to get something in thread going instead of just sitting back and waiting.

Do you read the setup talk null? If so, what about gobbleygook do you read town?


i think talking about "optimal play" and the setup is an easy thing to do as either alignment and appear to be contributing. i also don't really think it yields much alignment indicative information unless someone is quite obviously intentionally feeding a bad line of play to everyone else. something which i would like to believe almost everyone who plays on these forums would be smart enough not to do as mafia. but i have seen and done a lot of stupid stuff so i guess nothing is outside of the realm of possibility.

i think syl is scummy right now because all he has talked about is setup, when challenged he got whiny and defensive, and he claimed to not have time and spent what he had in defense rather than actually trying to find scum in any way.

conversely, gobble faced basically the exact same challenges and just plodded on ahead. plus i liked his vehement stance against robik's suggestion to mass claim in angel thread. if he were mafia i don't think he would come out with that strong of a sentiment against it that quickly.

I like the majority of this post, until the red. I think it's still a town!ritoky post -- although i don't think i've seen a ritoky mafia game, but the last sentence still sucks because it's a shitty shitty conclusion to draw.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:29 GMT
#352
On September 04 2014 15:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't talk about setup. You can only help scum.
Don't claim unless i tell you to.

Period.

I'm the cop
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:30 GMT
#353
On September 04 2014 15:53 geript wrote:
I don't really have any solid townreads yet. It's really sad. Plus there's too many people on my too lynch list. Gun to my head Koshi; he's not as happy and fun as I usually think of him. But there's an odd towny air to him.

People town reading geript after this post are pretty bad at this game.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:34 GMT
#354
On September 04 2014 16:08 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 14:50 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:42 slOosh wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:37 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:30 slOosh wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:28 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:24 slOosh wrote:
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.

I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions.


agree with gobble, not sylencia.

Cool. Could you elaborate on the difference you perceive? Because I'm of the opinion their approaches to it are similar.


didn't i just say the difference in my previous post? like literally the post before this? (actually 2 i think)

Oh ... I guess I misunderstood. I think the setup discussion is townish, and I'm reading gobbleygook and sylencia town for their setup discussion. Not null, but town. It looks like they want to figure out what's best for town with regards to how we apply blue actions. I'm not bothered by the lack of substantive reads at this point, since the day just started. On that note, they are trying to get something in thread going instead of just sitting back and waiting.

Do you read the setup talk null? If so, what about gobbleygook do you read town?


i think talking about "optimal play" and the setup is an easy thing to do as either alignment and appear to be contributing. i also don't really think it yields much alignment indicative information unless someone is quite obviously intentionally feeding a bad line of play to everyone else. something which i would like to believe almost everyone who plays on these forums would be smart enough not to do as mafia. but i have seen and done a lot of stupid stuff so i guess nothing is outside of the realm of possibility.

i think syl is scummy right now because all he has talked about is setup, when challenged he got whiny and defensive, and he claimed to not have time and spent what he had in defense rather than actually trying to find scum in any way.

conversely, gobble faced basically the exact same challenges and just plodded on ahead. plus i liked his vehement stance against robik's suggestion to mass claim in angel thread. if he were mafia i don't think he would come out with that strong of a sentiment against it that quickly.


This is what I was talking about.

Fuck you for stealing my thunder. FUCKKKKKK. I hated your post about not having town reads, but i like your sylencia read and i like your ritoky read -- including the specific part I highlighted in my recent post, which apparently you noticed too.

Maybe you are town afterall.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
September 04 2014 15:36 GMT
#355
Here's why I think koshi is scum.

1)
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky


this is a really bad post. It's a list of town people with no explanation whatsoever. It's not a list town would make.

2) he has done nothing while posting a whole page of filler. I don't see any insight he has offered that I would expect an experienced player like koshi would make as town. He went to sleep when the day had just started, but his posts haven't gained substance since he woke up.


A look through sloosh's filter and it's not impressive either. There's some meaningless setup talk, and then there are a series of open-ended questions without actually committing to anything. I don't even know what his reads are. I agree with oats here on sloosh scum.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
September 04 2014 15:37 GMT
#356
On September 05 2014 00:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 15:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't talk about setup. You can only help scum.
Don't claim unless i tell you to.

Period.

I'm the cop


didn't you do this sort of fakeclaim in noir mini that screwed the whole town over.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:38 GMT
#357
Can someone explain to me why gobble is speaking for people all game instead of just waiting for people to explain themselves? Is this towny? I have NOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING CLUE how to read this behavior.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 04 2014 15:39 GMT
#358
On September 05 2014 00:37 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 00:29 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 04 2014 15:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't talk about setup. You can only help scum.
Don't claim unless i tell you to.

Period.

I'm the cop


didn't you do this sort of fakeclaim in noir mini that screwed the whole town over.

Is that the game where idiots lynched BH and then lynched MysteryMeat, cause they can't read into what's going on in a game? If you think I'm to blame for that, you're out of your fucking mind.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
September 04 2014 15:42 GMT
#359
sloosh what are your top scumreads. why.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
September 04 2014 15:43 GMT
#360
On September 05 2014 00:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 00:37 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 05 2014 00:29 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 04 2014 15:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't talk about setup. You can only help scum.
Don't claim unless i tell you to.

Period.

I'm the cop


didn't you do this sort of fakeclaim in noir mini that screwed the whole town over.

Is that the game where idiots lynched BH and then lynched MysteryMeat, cause they can't read into what's going on in a game? If you think I'm to blame for that, you're out of your fucking mind.


We can discuss this another day. Let's move on.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
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