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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 23 2014 19:18 GMT
#1341
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?

This is when Rayn posted.
Yamato's filter is like 6 posts long at this point.

Currently it is >30.

Massive difference. It is not only the quantity of his posting (which is by itself a terrible heuristic) but the content and quality, which is absolute shit and belies the fact that he doesn't appear to care whatsoever.

This is really dumb JAT.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 23 2014 19:20 GMT
#1342
On August 24 2014 04:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?

This is when Rayn posted.
Yamato's filter is like 6 posts long at this point.

Currently it is >30.

Massive difference. It is not only the quantity of his posting (which is by itself a terrible heuristic) but the content and quality, which is absolute shit and belies the fact that he doesn't appear to care whatsoever.

This is really dumb JAT.

Dumb is that you call the quality of posting a difference between his early and late posts.
And yes, of course it is dumb. My point is that I would never scumread you for this sentence BUT people who were all over Hapas case should.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 23 2014 19:23 GMT
#1343
The quality of posting isn't different, but there's obviously a point to see if he keeps it up after the first 6 posts of the game. You are being completely obtuse and it puzzles me.

I get your point but it strikes me as incredibly weak.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 19:25 GMT
#1344
On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.

Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.

Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this.
Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is?

Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they?

Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough.


He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on.

Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 23 2014 19:26 GMT
#1345
Hapa, you doing something right now? If you still want some targets to analyse -> Xatalos and Onegu for starters.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 19:27 GMT
#1346
On August 24 2014 04:16 KelsierSC wrote:
I am happy to vote on yamata but I want to hear reads form Onegu as I don't want him to skate by with what I consider a pretty poor read on rayn that coincided with a lot of people scum reading rayn.


I don't think Onegu's mafia in this one. He came into the game late, but the fact that he goes after Rayn first (of all people) seems pretty reckless for mafia. And I think my interaction with Rayn is a good example of what happens.

Secondly, these two posts:
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

On August 23 2014 22:34 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 22:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

Because he and the turtle claimed masons that are confirmed town to each other. Doesn't make much sense to claim as mafia, does it?



How does that make anysense whatsoever? Seems like a sweet claim if Im mafia. And eveyone just believed them, in a closed setup?


He's the first person to question the claim, which strikes me as very townie. Clean, well-accepted claims are generally "off limits" to attack by mafia (in fear of drawing negative attention), but Onegu doesn't follow any of that.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 23 2014 19:27 GMT
#1347
I'm still the best lynch in Hapa's eyes?

Maybe we do just lynch him.
Writer@WriterYamato
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 23 2014 19:28 GMT
#1348
On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.

Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.

Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this.
Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is?

Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they?

Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough.


He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on.

Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise.


If you are now unsure of Hapa you have to be unsure of rayn because of how hard Hapa went at him.

Also you need to respond to JAT's point, why do you not have an issue with WoS's question?
Zerg for Life
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 19:28 GMT
#1349
On August 24 2014 04:27 yamato77 wrote:
I'm still the best lynch in Hapa's eyes?

Maybe we do just lynch him.


Could you try to do something to change that instead of complaining?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 23 2014 19:28 GMT
#1350
On August 24 2014 04:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 04:16 KelsierSC wrote:
I am happy to vote on yamata but I want to hear reads form Onegu as I don't want him to skate by with what I consider a pretty poor read on rayn that coincided with a lot of people scum reading rayn.


I don't think Onegu's mafia in this one. He came into the game late, but the fact that he goes after Rayn first (of all people) seems pretty reckless for mafia. And I think my interaction with Rayn is a good example of what happens.

Secondly, these two posts:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 22:34 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

Because he and the turtle claimed masons that are confirmed town to each other. Doesn't make much sense to claim as mafia, does it?



How does that make anysense whatsoever? Seems like a sweet claim if Im mafia. And eveyone just believed them, in a closed setup?


He's the first person to question the claim, which strikes me as very townie. Clean, well-accepted claims are generally "off limits" to attack by mafia (in fear of drawing negative attention), but Onegu doesn't follow any of that.

Well, have a look at marvs case against Onegu from last game. Onegu likes to go against strong players as mafia. Also I don't see how it is towny to question the claim.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 23 2014 19:29 GMT
#1351
On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.

Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.

Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this.
Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is?

Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they?

Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough.


He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on.

Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise.


The bolded bothers me, obviously he is mafia if he doesn't contribute but what i've seen isn't as bad as some people think it is. I'm going to wait on his read to see if he can keep a promise meh. But why don't you care exactly? I care about mislynches i'd rather just lynch mafia every day instead of thinking well if hes town no great loss
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 19:29 GMT
#1352
On August 24 2014 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Hapa, you doing something right now? If you still want some targets to analyse -> Xatalos and Onegu for starters.


As for Xatalos... the 14 pages makes me think he's town. That seems mind-boggling for mafia to do - it's a different level of activity all together.

I could definitely go through his filter and nitpick stuff (as have others), but I would find it incredibly difficult for Xat to maintain this level of activity as mafia. Hell I would be impressed if *anyone* had 14 pages on Day 1 as mafia.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 19:29 GMT
#1353
On August 24 2014 04:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 04:27 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 04:16 KelsierSC wrote:
I am happy to vote on yamata but I want to hear reads form Onegu as I don't want him to skate by with what I consider a pretty poor read on rayn that coincided with a lot of people scum reading rayn.


I don't think Onegu's mafia in this one. He came into the game late, but the fact that he goes after Rayn first (of all people) seems pretty reckless for mafia. And I think my interaction with Rayn is a good example of what happens.

Secondly, these two posts:
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

On August 23 2014 22:34 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

Because he and the turtle claimed masons that are confirmed town to each other. Doesn't make much sense to claim as mafia, does it?



How does that make anysense whatsoever? Seems like a sweet claim if Im mafia. And eveyone just believed them, in a closed setup?


He's the first person to question the claim, which strikes me as very townie. Clean, well-accepted claims are generally "off limits" to attack by mafia (in fear of drawing negative attention), but Onegu doesn't follow any of that.

Well, have a look at marvs case against Onegu from last game. Onegu likes to go against strong players as mafia. Also I don't see how it is towny to question the claim.


Last game?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 23 2014 19:29 GMT
#1354
I'm out for a while.
WWill be back before deadline. Should start consolidating.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 19:30 GMT
#1355
On August 24 2014 04:27 yamato77 wrote:
I'm still the best lynch in Hapa's eyes?

Maybe we do just lynch him.


You still haven't done jack =/
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 19:30 GMT
#1356
On August 24 2014 04:28 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.

Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.

Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this.
Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is?

Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they?

Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough.


He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on.

Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise.


If you are now unsure of Hapa you have to be unsure of rayn because of how hard Hapa went at him.

Also you need to respond to JAT's point, why do you not have an issue with WoS's question?


Well, WOS is pushing yamato so it's different. It's not really scummy to ask others opinions of your scumreads while pushing them, is it?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 23 2014 19:30 GMT
#1357
On August 24 2014 04:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 04:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 04:27 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 04:16 KelsierSC wrote:
I am happy to vote on yamata but I want to hear reads form Onegu as I don't want him to skate by with what I consider a pretty poor read on rayn that coincided with a lot of people scum reading rayn.


I don't think Onegu's mafia in this one. He came into the game late, but the fact that he goes after Rayn first (of all people) seems pretty reckless for mafia. And I think my interaction with Rayn is a good example of what happens.

Secondly, these two posts:
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

On August 23 2014 22:34 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

Because he and the turtle claimed masons that are confirmed town to each other. Doesn't make much sense to claim as mafia, does it?



How does that make anysense whatsoever? Seems like a sweet claim if Im mafia. And eveyone just believed them, in a closed setup?


He's the first person to question the claim, which strikes me as very townie. Clean, well-accepted claims are generally "off limits" to attack by mafia (in fear of drawing negative attention), but Onegu doesn't follow any of that.

Well, have a look at marvs case against Onegu from last game. Onegu likes to go against strong players as mafia. Also I don't see how it is towny to question the claim.


Last game?

Championsship game. Not that Onegu was mafia in it but the meta examples are still real.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 19:31 GMT
#1358
On August 24 2014 04:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 04:16 KelsierSC wrote:
I am happy to vote on yamata but I want to hear reads form Onegu as I don't want him to skate by with what I consider a pretty poor read on rayn that coincided with a lot of people scum reading rayn.


I don't think Onegu's mafia in this one. He came into the game late, but the fact that he goes after Rayn first (of all people) seems pretty reckless for mafia. And I think my interaction with Rayn is a good example of what happens.

Secondly, these two posts:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 22:34 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

Because he and the turtle claimed masons that are confirmed town to each other. Doesn't make much sense to claim as mafia, does it?



How does that make anysense whatsoever? Seems like a sweet claim if Im mafia. And eveyone just believed them, in a closed setup?


He's the first person to question the claim, which strikes me as very townie. Clean, well-accepted claims are generally "off limits" to attack by mafia (in fear of drawing negative attention), but Onegu doesn't follow any of that.


Yeah I like this.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 23 2014 19:31 GMT
#1359
On August 24 2014 04:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Hapa, you doing something right now? If you still want some targets to analyse -> Xatalos and Onegu for starters.


As for Xatalos... the 14 pages makes me think he's town. That seems mind-boggling for mafia to do - it's a different level of activity all together.

I could definitely go through his filter and nitpick stuff (as have others), but I would find it incredibly difficult for Xat to maintain this level of activity as mafia. Hell I would be impressed if *anyone* had 14 pages on Day 1 as mafia.


He can just mimic his town game which is to post a lot of "confused town" nonsense and give everyone a null read.

I literally think one of his posts was "hmmmmmmmm"

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 23 2014 19:32 GMT
#1360


If you are now unsure of Hapa you have to be unsure of rayn because of how hard Hapa went at him.


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