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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why is noone calling yamato mafia? This is when Rayn posted. Yamato's filter is like 6 posts long at this point. Currently it is >30. Massive difference. It is not only the quantity of his posting (which is by itself a terrible heuristic) but the content and quality, which is absolute shit and belies the fact that he doesn't appear to care whatsoever. This is really dumb JAT. | ||
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justanothertownie
16324 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:18 WaveofShadow wrote: This is when Rayn posted. Yamato's filter is like 6 posts long at this point. Currently it is >30. Massive difference. It is not only the quantity of his posting (which is by itself a terrible heuristic) but the content and quality, which is absolute shit and belies the fact that he doesn't appear to care whatsoever. This is really dumb JAT. Dumb is that you call the quality of posting a difference between his early and late posts. And yes, of course it is dumb. My point is that I would never scumread you for this sentence BUT people who were all over Hapas case should. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I get your point but it strikes me as incredibly weak. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this. Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is? Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they? Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough. He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on. Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise. | ||
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justanothertownie
16324 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:16 KelsierSC wrote: I am happy to vote on yamata but I want to hear reads form Onegu as I don't want him to skate by with what I consider a pretty poor read on rayn that coincided with a lot of people scum reading rayn. I don't think Onegu's mafia in this one. He came into the game late, but the fact that he goes after Rayn first (of all people) seems pretty reckless for mafia. And I think my interaction with Rayn is a good example of what happens. Secondly, these two posts: On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote: Dunno even know why people have him confirmed... On August 23 2014 22:34 Onegu wrote: How does that make anysense whatsoever? Seems like a sweet claim if Im mafia. And eveyone just believed them, in a closed setup? He's the first person to question the claim, which strikes me as very townie. Clean, well-accepted claims are generally "off limits" to attack by mafia (in fear of drawing negative attention), but Onegu doesn't follow any of that. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Maybe we do just lynch him. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote: He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on. Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise. If you are now unsure of Hapa you have to be unsure of rayn because of how hard Hapa went at him. Also you need to respond to JAT's point, why do you not have an issue with WoS's question? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:27 yamato77 wrote: I'm still the best lynch in Hapa's eyes? Maybe we do just lynch him. Could you try to do something to change that instead of complaining? | ||
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justanothertownie
16324 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:27 Hapahauli wrote: I don't think Onegu's mafia in this one. He came into the game late, but the fact that he goes after Rayn first (of all people) seems pretty reckless for mafia. And I think my interaction with Rayn is a good example of what happens. Secondly, these two posts: He's the first person to question the claim, which strikes me as very townie. Clean, well-accepted claims are generally "off limits" to attack by mafia (in fear of drawing negative attention), but Onegu doesn't follow any of that. Well, have a look at marvs case against Onegu from last game. Onegu likes to go against strong players as mafia. Also I don't see how it is towny to question the claim. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote: He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on. Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise. The bolded bothers me, obviously he is mafia if he doesn't contribute but what i've seen isn't as bad as some people think it is. I'm going to wait on his read to see if he can keep a promise meh. But why don't you care exactly? I care about mislynches i'd rather just lynch mafia every day instead of thinking well if hes town no great loss | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:26 justanothertownie wrote: Hapa, you doing something right now? If you still want some targets to analyse -> Xatalos and Onegu for starters. As for Xatalos... the 14 pages makes me think he's town. That seems mind-boggling for mafia to do - it's a different level of activity all together. I could definitely go through his filter and nitpick stuff (as have others), but I would find it incredibly difficult for Xat to maintain this level of activity as mafia. Hell I would be impressed if *anyone* had 14 pages on Day 1 as mafia. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:28 justanothertownie wrote: Well, have a look at marvs case against Onegu from last game. Onegu likes to go against strong players as mafia. Also I don't see how it is towny to question the claim. Last game? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
WWill be back before deadline. Should start consolidating. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:27 yamato77 wrote: I'm still the best lynch in Hapa's eyes? Maybe we do just lynch him. You still haven't done jack =/ | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:28 KelsierSC wrote: If you are now unsure of Hapa you have to be unsure of rayn because of how hard Hapa went at him. Also you need to respond to JAT's point, why do you not have an issue with WoS's question? Well, WOS is pushing yamato so it's different. It's not really scummy to ask others opinions of your scumreads while pushing them, is it? | ||
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justanothertownie
16324 Posts
Championsship game. Not that Onegu was mafia in it but the meta examples are still real. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:27 Hapahauli wrote: I don't think Onegu's mafia in this one. He came into the game late, but the fact that he goes after Rayn first (of all people) seems pretty reckless for mafia. And I think my interaction with Rayn is a good example of what happens. Secondly, these two posts: He's the first person to question the claim, which strikes me as very townie. Clean, well-accepted claims are generally "off limits" to attack by mafia (in fear of drawing negative attention), but Onegu doesn't follow any of that. Yeah I like this. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 24 2014 04:29 Hapahauli wrote: As for Xatalos... the 14 pages makes me think he's town. That seems mind-boggling for mafia to do - it's a different level of activity all together. I could definitely go through his filter and nitpick stuff (as have others), but I would find it incredibly difficult for Xat to maintain this level of activity as mafia. Hell I would be impressed if *anyone* had 14 pages on Day 1 as mafia. He can just mimic his town game which is to post a lot of "confused town" nonsense and give everyone a null read. I literally think one of his posts was "hmmmmmmmm" | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
If you are now unsure of Hapa you have to be unsure of rayn because of how hard Hapa went at him. | ||
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