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turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 17:50 GMT
#1301
On August 24 2014 02:47 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:46 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:38 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Turtle are you completely caught up?


I've once-overed the entire thread
but it's hard to hold in my head
the thread was quite long
but my reading is strong
but much more and I'd probably be dead

Good. Any suspects besides Hapa?


Despite what I say about hapa's alignment,
I've also noticed rayn's decreasing refinement,
his yelling is bothersome and GB wants me to read him,
since he does it regardless of what he rolls on a whim,
but the fact that he made like 200 posts in the first day is still annoying to me...ment.

Depute unvoting him, I still suspect Xat,
who wants to push [urlhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=65#1292]hapa at the drop of a hat
it's not that he's wrong
it's that the reason's not strong
and given that he's defended hapa so much I can't see him posting that.


You call that pushing....
[/url]





VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 17:52 GMT
#1302
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.
I come in for the scraps
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 23 2014 17:55 GMT
#1303
On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.


Do epople actually believe i haven't said anything original? or are they just trying to piss me off....This is the stupidest thing against me its like you aren't even reading the thread
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 18:00 GMT
#1304
On August 24 2014 02:55 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.


Do epople actually believe i haven't said anything original? or are they just trying to piss me off....This is the stupidest thing against me its like you aren't even reading the thread


I am some one that actually DOES read filters (90% of what I do when im around) could you point me to what you think is an insightful contribution so far? I'm more seeing just a lot of agreeableness and general wish washyness. Im not rayn here and challenging you to a gauntlet.
I come in for the scraps
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 23 2014 18:02 GMT
#1305
Dam do you still think rayn is scum?
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 23 2014 18:06 GMT
#1306
On August 24 2014 03:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:55 Damdred wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.


Do epople actually believe i haven't said anything original? or are they just trying to piss me off....This is the stupidest thing against me its like you aren't even reading the thread


I am some one that actually DOES read filters (90% of what I do when im around) could you point me to what you think is an insightful contribution so far? I'm more seeing just a lot of agreeableness and general wish washyness. Im not rayn here and challenging you to a gauntlet.


My GB stuff was original at that point in the thread, it is wrong admittedly because GB is confirmed town basically but its still there. My stuff on Wave was original to the thread, though I do think wave is being helpful to the thread now I still think he was being scummy at that point and hes not the lynch today. I talked to Xata several times, tried to have a conversation about Oneg read on Rayn which Xata still hasn't acknowledged my latest post. A few observations, one about the timing of Hapas argument and the weird sheeping that happened right after.

So yea I think i've contributed, and Kel i'm not sure honestly. Im still really angry at Rayn and I don't want it to cloud my judgement right now.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 23 2014 18:12 GMT
#1307
On August 24 2014 02:46 turtlevine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:38 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Turtle are you completely caught up?


I've once-overed the entire thread
but it's hard to hold in my head
the thread was quite long
but my reading is strong
but much more and I'd probably be dead

Good. Any suspects besides Hapa?


Despite what I say about hapa's alignment,
I've also noticed rayn's decreasing refinement,
his yelling is bothersome and GB wants me to read him,
since he does it regardless of what he rolls on a whim,
but the fact that he made like 200 posts in the first day is still annoying to me...ment.

Depute unvoting him, I still suspect Xat,
who wants to push [urlhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=65#1292]hapa at the drop of a hat
it's not that he's wrong
it's that the reason's not strong
and given that he's defended hapa so much I can't see him posting that.
[/url]
I am a bit amused you do not strongly think i am town while we are pushing the exact same things....
table for two on a tv tray
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 18:25 GMT
#1308
On August 24 2014 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am xapable of having the biggest filter in a game as mafia. Don't usw it to read me.

Wave....

I'm telling you this isn't a town Rayn post. I'll be reading the entire thread now.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 18:28 GMT
#1309
I think I answered your latest post Damdred.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 23 2014 18:30 GMT
#1310
On August 24 2014 02:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:29 Damdred wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:28 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Xatalos, what about Onegus entrance was good?


The fact that he immediately focused on interacting with me and talking about which filters would be important to read etc., then actually went to read rayn and brought additional points for him being scum.


Show me what good points Xata, most of what he brought to the thread had been talked about before and as someone who Rayn says can always read him and he self claims he can read rayn he doesn't bring a ton to the thread in the way of a read when rayn has a lot of pages to draw from.

Don't put any stock in what Onegu says about his ability to read people (-> Holyflare in the last game).



Much much much more confidant in my ability to read Rayn.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 23 2014 18:31 GMT
#1311
On August 24 2014 02:43 Damdred wrote:
I disagree strongly Xatalos, if I understand the context of the thread Yamato was 100% being allowed to lurk with no pressure put on him. Thats how he scums and Rayn brought attention we just didn't talk about it. It's not begging at all.

Also I don't read the Oneg case the same at all I think it is lacking 100% he showed two quotes maybe three at most....from an 11 page filter? And you think thats a good case and is sheepable?


@Xata
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 18:32 GMT
#1312
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.

Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 23 2014 18:37 GMT
#1313
Onegu can you give reads on other players please.

Xat,Hapa,Yam and Dam would be interesting to hear about
Zerg for Life
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 18:40 GMT
#1314
On August 24 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:43 Damdred wrote:
I disagree strongly Xatalos, if I understand the context of the thread Yamato was 100% being allowed to lurk with no pressure put on him. Thats how he scums and Rayn brought attention we just didn't talk about it. It's not begging at all.

Also I don't read the Oneg case the same at all I think it is lacking 100% he showed two quotes maybe three at most....from an 11 page filter? And you think thats a good case and is sheepable?


@Xata


1) Well maybe "begging" is an exaggerated word. Still the fact remains that he only casually mentioned it and didn't seem like it led to anything. No follow-up at all, no effect on the discussion. He just totally dropped it. Why even post it at all? Later on he didn't even talk about yamato for a long time (from my memory at least).

2) I wouldn't say the "I never do this as scum" point makes rayn scum by itself. It's just a bonus thing. However, I think it was more important how Onegu explained that town rayn strongly believes in everything he does whereas scum rayn does not - and how rayn's plays that lacked conviction (specifically the yamato posts but also the case on you) pointed to scum. That I think is already a worthy reason to vote for him. And then there's a lot of other reasons.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 18:42 GMT
#1315
Yeah please catch up quickly Onegu. Not much time left.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 23 2014 18:44 GMT
#1316
On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.

Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.

Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this.
Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is?

Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they?

Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 18:45 GMT
#1317
Good morning afternoon world. Sleeping-in is apparently a scum-tell.

##Vote Yamato

He's our guy yo.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=46#915

What I posted last night stands, particularly the point about "confidence."

To add, his interactions overall were pretty lacking. He gets in the thread, asks a couple of questions to look helpful, and takes a long period of absence. If you look at page two of his filter, he re-enters the thread after my case, posts some inconclusive reads (soft-defends me, rambles a bit on wave), then posts this:
On August 23 2014 12:44 yamato77 wrote:
So, Hapa, how do you feel about voting me right now?


Not a fan of this post, because it plays up his contributions. He did very little, and seemingly expected me to give him town-credit for it.

Yamato's a guy who I can generally get as town pretty early on. He has a "bravado" about his town play that's very hard to fake. This game I really haven't seen it, and that means he's mafia.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 23 2014 18:46 GMT
#1318
On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.

Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.

Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they?

Anyone who thought Hapas case on rayn was good feel free to explain the difference between what he said and this.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 18:46 GMT
#1319
Anyway, I'll be around periodically to answer questions. Fire away boys.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 23 2014 18:46 GMT
#1320
On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.

Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.

Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this.
Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is?

Why are you asking so many useless questions?
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