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turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 25 2014 17:57 GMT
#2213
nobody is confirmed scum right now
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 25 2014 22:33 GMT
#2309
On August 26 2014 06:52 Damdred wrote:
Quick question statement:

Some of the thread won't lynch into a PR claim such as VAs when it does make a bit of sense. Why is it horrible here to CC him if you are blue? A 1:1 trade is not the worst thing when we already have confirmed other roles and mafia would be down to 1.


If VA is getting lynched anyways, there's no reason to CC
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 25 2014 22:37 GMT
#2311
what kind of joat doesn't use the cop check or the watcher ability N1 though
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 25 2014 22:52 GMT
#2316
On August 26 2014 07:49 Damdred wrote:
Maybe at least would give us something else to talk about


or it would give scum an easy nk
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 26 2014 17:07 GMT
#2486
##unvote VA
##vote KSC
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 26 2014 17:11 GMT
#2489
On August 27 2014 02:09 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 02:07 turtlevine wrote:
##unvote VA
##vote KSC


Don't just sheep GB :/ Why?


I guess it's just far too probably that VA did this as town. The scum motivation for this kind of move is more likely than the town motivation, but, the claim makes so little sense, I don't see why scum would make this claim instead of another more easily defended one. As scum you'd go for a claim that would protect you, not hurt you.

The only reason anyone would claim JOAT with a truly awful action like VA did is if they couldn't claim something else for some reason. Barring, of course, usual stupidities. No, VA is town. We lynch KSC.

I *Want* to lynch VA for this, but honestly, why the dicks would scum claim such an awful role use? Scum could claim *anything*. The only reason you'd claim something so awful and obviously attention-drawing would be if it was the only thing you could claim, because it's true.
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 26 2014 17:21 GMT
#2491
Our goal isn't to punish bad behavior or lynch people for making bad plays. Our goal is to lynch scum. You can say "this guy's play is bad and we should punish him for it", but that's not what we're trying to do here. Policy lynching is stupid. People like saying 'Too scummy to be scum'.

People like making a show of competence and virtue. They loudly declare that they use logic and reason to lynch people, that these things are the best. People strut around showing off their reasons and denying those of us who use our guts, each person one-upping the other, claiming their allegiance to the broken system like politicians each claiming to be more folksy than the last. It rings false to me.

"Too scummy to be scum" DOES exist. Something about this VA lynch has been gnawing at my gut all day, some intuition is telling me that we're not lynching scum here. It's a certain sense of unease resting on me, and it tells me that we shouldn't lynch him.

People agree with me. It's true. You all know that something is wrong about this lynch, but you want to appear logical. You're afraid to go with your gut, because if you're wrong, how can you defend yourself in the post game? IF you use logic and fail, you can blame VA or whoever. But if you use your gut and fail, you look silly.

I have no fear of looking silly. All I want is to win. I don't care about the post game.

Don't play that game. Play this one.

Lynch KSC.
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 26 2014 17:28 GMT
#2494
On August 27 2014 02:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 02:21 turtlevine wrote:
Our goal isn't to punish bad behavior or lynch people for making bad plays. Our goal is to lynch scum. You can say "this guy's play is bad and we should punish him for it", but that's not what we're trying to do here. Policy lynching is stupid. People like saying 'Too scummy to be scum'.

People like making a show of competence and virtue. They loudly declare that they use logic and reason to lynch people, that these things are the best. People strut around showing off their reasons and denying those of us who use our guts, each person one-upping the other, claiming their allegiance to the broken system like politicians each claiming to be more folksy than the last. It rings false to me.

"Too scummy to be scum" DOES exist. Something about this VA lynch has been gnawing at my gut all day, some intuition is telling me that we're not lynching scum here. It's a certain sense of unease resting on me, and it tells me that we shouldn't lynch him.

People agree with me. It's true. You all know that something is wrong about this lynch, but you want to appear logical. You're afraid to go with your gut, because if you're wrong, how can you defend yourself in the post game? IF you use logic and fail, you can blame VA or whoever. But if you use your gut and fail, you look silly.

I have no fear of looking silly. All I want is to win. I don't care about the post game.

Don't play that game. Play this one.

Lynch KSC.

And now I know for sure you're not reading the game at all.
How in the fuck do you get from my posting on VA that I'm policy lynching him for being stupid?
WHY SHOULD WE BE LYNCHING KSC?
Do you even KNOW your partner's reasons?
Done with you.



I'm saying that you're claiming to be lynching VA for good reasons, but you're mostly doing it because 1) youre KSC's scumbuddy (this is one prevailing theory in the mason qt), or 2) you're too tied up by your show of logical thinking to realize that VA is town.

You can apologize to me after KSC flips scum.
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 26 2014 17:36 GMT
#2498
OK, let's not focus on my KSC vote right now, let's pretend I'm not voting KSC. My reason for unvoting VA is fine, right?
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 26 2014 18:16 GMT
#2505
I don't mind an Onegu lynch either, though GB seems more interested in lynching KSC. The Onegu tunnel seems scummy to GB.

The WoS scum thing is entirely association, so we can't trust it while KSC is unflipped. GB himself admits he feels tunneled about the WoS/KSC association, so you won't see either of us voting WOS.
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 26 2014 20:03 GMT
#2518
I can speak on on behalf of gb. what do you need to know
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 26 2014 20:18 GMT
#2525
On August 27 2014 05:10 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 04:53 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 27 2014 04:01 Xatalos wrote:
And it's not like there is a strong case on him + he lynched scum on D1.


My drunk personality lunched scum on day1.
I don't believe Rayn and Hapa could be from the same alignment, so... Kill him


Are you sure about that? I've seen town vs town ego wars before (besides Hapa didn't really participate outside of making the case).


GB thinks that with the many falsified arguments going around, there was great animosity. So much that it couldn't be explained by reasonable townies disagreeing. His original hypothesis was that it was likely that at least one, possibly both were scum. This amount of chaos and bickering is a sign of scum involvement, in his opinion.
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 26 2014 22:55 GMT
#2574
If Onegu makes a last-minute return to thread to avoid getting modkilled, I vow to vote him on the spot and prevent him from living out this day.
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 27 2014 00:01 GMT
#2628
Hey, looks like everyone finally agrees with me about not voting VA!
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 27 2014 00:27 GMT
#2654
##unvote
##vote hapa


but I will be ready to lynch onegu should he return
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 27 2014 01:12 GMT
#2735
And all of you doubted when I said we should lynch Hapa over VA!
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 27 2014 01:24 GMT
#2748
KelsierSC seems awfully mad for a supposed townie playing in a game where all town has done so far is lynch scum...
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 27 2014 01:29 GMT
#2754
I'm a little confused. Please don't yell at me here KSC, I really don't understand. If VA dies, why is Yam conftown?
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 27 2014 01:35 GMT
#2761
On August 27 2014 10:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 10:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Wave can you love me a little bit now after my paranoid shits?

It's unfortunate that I am forced to simply because of your colour and not by the merits of your actions.

You hurt me, calling me scum like that.


GB's track record

[x] lynches only scum
[ ] does anything other than only lynch scum
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 27 2014 01:45 GMT
#2767
On August 27 2014 10:31 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 10:29 turtlevine wrote:
I'm a little confused. Please don't yell at me here KSC, I really don't understand. If VA dies, why is Yam conftown?


Yam voted on GB first and he pushed hard and pretty much led the lynch on Hapa.


I don't think you get more confirmed town than that.

VA dying doesn't effect Yam being confirmed he is confirmed regardless


So, not confirmed town at all. Not even a little bit confirmed. Just highly likely to be town.
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