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turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 21 2014 16:07 GMT
#39
/in
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 21 2014 18:33 GMT
#52
Aint no party like a third party cause a third party got kp
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 22 2014 01:54 GMT
#112
wos asked some questions aboove
thinking there'd be people they'd shove
but as we can see
no question's worthy
just tell them those posts get no love!

there's no harm at the start realistically
in talking about no-lynch strategy
it's no good this game
which is really a shame
it kills a way for scum to talk for free!

these posts give alignment of null-tell
just don't use them as a casemaker as well
not for town or for scum,
i'm telling you chum
this chatter lives only in the echo of the starting bell!
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 22 2014 16:21 GMT
#543
On August 22 2014 11:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Talk to me. I want people to talk to me. Talk to me now. Now.


based on this guy's attempts to pow-wow
and ideas I can't share right now
if he's scum I'd be shocked
to him I will talked
and we'll be upon this game's prow.

On August 22 2014 11:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Rayn would 100% wait up for his role and if he were town he would have posted. Hell, he might have even just stayed up and played the game. He does it all the time as town. He always finds a reason to pussy out and not post when he's mafia


I don't believe this heuristic
is town rayn always a dick?
The answer is "no"
so it just goes to show
don't listen to IAmRobik

On August 22 2014 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like sadly KSC is in for a very rude awakening if he thinks useless/non-tryhard people are scum on this forum.


WOS is correct on this front
your typical town player's a c***,
but with effort so clean,
KSC's surely green,
so if you think he's scum go get bent.

Though I must add onto this point
this post does not to WoS annoint
he's wasted some posts
on flames spam and boasts
not what I'd expect from a vet.

On August 22 2014 12:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 12:10 Damdred wrote:
@Gb you said most likely to be mafia out of those posted talk to me why its him


(1)He is too aggressive page 1. Being aggressive is a town play, but being too aggressive with too little information sounds scummy to me or beginner's paranoia. I was like that when I was a newbie and I did that last game against Rayn when I was mafia. (2) his entrance is a tcontributing post which doesn't days much actually. He could be trying to look contributive while being mafia. (3) free town passes. He gave a town pass to Robik but didn't to WoS and they were in the same level of "rudeness". Tbh, those three items post on WoS were valid, but WoS is an easy target if you consider all those items already in the beginning of day 1.


Although I can see what you say
lynching KSC's the wrong play
the only good point here's 2,
and although that one's true,
his aggression and town passes are not astray

The basic mistake of a townie at first
is to put in way too much efforts
and if his ideas are crap
that's not the right strat
scum idea isn't so stupid it hurts


On August 22 2014 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
is this game gluten free?


Is this some kind of new crumb
or am I just being dumb?
i know not the memes
of tl mafia it seems
and I wouldn't want to miss out on the fun.

On August 22 2014 17:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
turtlevine which continent are you from?


Though it compromises my identity to say,
I'll share: I'm from the US of A
I'd rather stay cloaked
in the mystery evoked
by my smurf and my nice turns of phrase


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=11#210

Looking at Xat's odd numbered list list,
I'm starting to feel kind of pissed,
it's classic list post,
unhelpful at most,
made without a clear focused scum jist.

he starts with a question at dam,
and then there's an apology to him,
that vote post is bad,
though it makes my heart glad,
I think I've finally found scum.



So far I'm up to page twelve
it seems I'm moderately whelmed
I'll continue these thoughts
after I've finished a walk,
and deeper into thread I will delve!

##vote xatalos
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 22 2014 16:24 GMT
#548
On August 23 2014 00:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:54 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:47 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:36 Xatalos wrote:
Specifically I like that you mirrored my own notes in how GB felt towny early on and has fallen from grace a bit in the recent pages.


I want to punch you in the fucking face for saying something like that. I said this was a busy day for me. I even bolded it so you wouldn't skip that motherfucking post.


Btw why is your vote on turtlevine instead of me, your strong scumread?


He knows the game is going on, post a shitty poem then perma lurks. I need him posting right now.

Robik, if you think I'm faking emotions, you should watch Mexican soap operas so you can understand the difference.


I'm masoned with Glowingbear,
but it's kinda annoying in there
the guy's got no humor
his writing's a tumor
and our alignments the hosts did not share

I'd be surprised as heck were he a creep,
since masoning diff alignments makes me weep,
he's a paranoid dude
just a little unscrewed,
and so now he's voted me for being a asleep
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 22 2014 16:26 GMT
#552
wow, fucking sylencia just came into the mason QT and told us we're confirmed to each other. I would have 100% never outed my Mason partner if he was confirmed to me, since all that does is give scum easy targets to shoot. are you freaking kidding me
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 22 2014 16:27 GMT
#554
On August 23 2014 01:26 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:24 turtlevine wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:54 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:47 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:36 Xatalos wrote:
Specifically I like that you mirrored my own notes in how GB felt towny early on and has fallen from grace a bit in the recent pages.


I want to punch you in the fucking face for saying something like that. I said this was a busy day for me. I even bolded it so you wouldn't skip that motherfucking post.


Btw why is your vote on turtlevine instead of me, your strong scumread?


He knows the game is going on, post a shitty poem then perma lurks. I need him posting right now.

Robik, if you think I'm faking emotions, you should watch Mexican soap operas so you can understand the difference.


I'm masoned with Glowingbear,
but it's kinda annoying in there
the guy's got no humor
his writing's a tumor
and our alignments the hosts did not share

I'd be surprised as heck were he a creep,
since masoning diff alignments makes me weep,
he's a paranoid dude
just a little unscrewed,
and so now he's voted me for being a asleep



Why didn't GB tell us this earlier?


Gb didn't do what was good,
only what he thought he should
he's a paranoid dude
and now we're quite screwed
because the host's central nervous system's made of wood.
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 22 2014 16:31 GMT
#561
On August 23 2014 01:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
turtle can you gimme your read on Wave after you're caught up plz?


Up to 12 I do not like how he seems,
he hasn't made serious reads,
not pushing for scum,
just having some fun,
I'll have to see what follows this lead.
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 22 2014 18:46 GMT
#659
There was once a man named turtlevine
his mafia play was super fine
but now he's at lunch,
which he likes a bunch,
so it will take a little bit of time
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 17:33 GMT
#1270
At this point it's important to note
that my xat case was not a meta vote
I just don't like the list
or his new scumscore twist
it was worth giving the man a poke

On August 23 2014 23:16 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 23:15 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:36 Xatalos wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:34 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 22:26 Onegu wrote:
Also Kempachi rule

So GB is scum? Try again.



Dunno even know why people have him confirmed...

Because he and the turtle claimed masons that are confirmed town to each other. Doesn't make much sense to claim as mafia, does it?



How does that make anysense whatsoever? Seems like a sweet claim if Im mafia. And eveyone just believed them, in a closed setup?


Think about it a little though. It's almost impossible that they would both survive until LYLO (SK bullets, blue powers etc. could easily reveal one of them and then the other one is 100% dead as well) and even if they did, they'd be pretty much auto-lynch at LYLO.



Yes this is true if both are mafia, but how is it impossible that is one town and one scum, unless both of them are saying in thier PM that they are confirmed masoned with another town.


turtlevine said that they are both confirmed town to each other.


I know at first I didn't say so
but GB and I are confirmed bros
the hosts made a mistake
so we did a double take
because at first they didn't pm us that info


I've read a good bit from GB
who suspects scum is hapahauli
since hapa's involvement is low
and his posting is slow
I am quite inclined to agree.


It's not just about filter length,
but also about posting strength,
he starts with a case,
but get's somewhat off base,
and his yamato case's barely a wrench.

I don't like that yamato delurk
but hapa's quite a piece of work,
he's poking and prodding
and joking and plodding
and still hasn't completed a clear work.

If Hapa were town he'd act better,
he'd push his cases even if he looked like a nutter,
and here he backs off,
with confusion and scoff,
changing reads with every new letter

##unvote xatalos
##vote hapahauli
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 17:38 GMT
#1282
On August 24 2014 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Turtle are you completely caught up?


I've once-overed the entire thread
but it's hard to hold in my head
the thread was quite long
but my reading is strong
but much more and I'd probably be dead
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 17:46 GMT
#1297
On August 24 2014 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:38 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Turtle are you completely caught up?


I've once-overed the entire thread
but it's hard to hold in my head
the thread was quite long
but my reading is strong
but much more and I'd probably be dead

Good. Any suspects besides Hapa?


Despite what I say about hapa's alignment,
I've also noticed rayn's decreasing refinement,
his yelling is bothersome and GB wants me to read him,
since he does it regardless of what he rolls on a whim,
but the fact that he made like 200 posts in the first day is still annoying to me...ment.

Depute unvoting him, I still suspect Xat,
who wants to push [urlhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=65#1292]hapa[/url] at the drop of a hat
it's not that he's wrong
it's that the reason's not strong
and given that he's defended hapa so much I can't see him posting that.
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 17:50 GMT
#1301
On August 24 2014 02:47 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:46 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:38 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Turtle are you completely caught up?


I've once-overed the entire thread
but it's hard to hold in my head
the thread was quite long
but my reading is strong
but much more and I'd probably be dead

Good. Any suspects besides Hapa?


Despite what I say about hapa's alignment,
I've also noticed rayn's decreasing refinement,
his yelling is bothersome and GB wants me to read him,
since he does it regardless of what he rolls on a whim,
but the fact that he made like 200 posts in the first day is still annoying to me...ment.

Depute unvoting him, I still suspect Xat,
who wants to push [urlhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=65#1292]hapa at the drop of a hat
it's not that he's wrong
it's that the reason's not strong
and given that he's defended hapa so much I can't see him posting that.


You call that pushing....
[/url]





turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 21:24 GMT
#1434
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 21:38 GMT
#1443
On August 24 2014 06:34 Xatalos wrote:
I really can't see town yamato posting what he did there.


where
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 21:52 GMT
#1451
On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?


Jat's conversations and great and many
especially with the dying hapahauli
if he were cred-seeking scum
he wouldn't be such a chum
to someone we'd so soon bury

It's possible about him I'm wrong
and he's surely and enormous dong
but today we should focus
on hapa and xatalos
on whom the cases are much more strong
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 21:57 GMT
#1453
On August 24 2014 06:53 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:52 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?


Jat's conversations and great and many
especially with the dying hapahauli
if he were cred-seeking scum
he wouldn't be such a chum
to someone we'd so soon bury

It's possible about him I'm wrong
and he's surely and enormous dong
but today we should focus
on hapa and xatalos
on whom the cases are much more strong


What about yamato? He just practically claimed scum.


where
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 22:04 GMT
#1455
On August 24 2014 07:00 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:57 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:53 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:52 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?


Jat's conversations and great and many
especially with the dying hapahauli
if he were cred-seeking scum
he wouldn't be such a chum
to someone we'd so soon bury

It's possible about him I'm wrong
and he's surely and enormous dong
but today we should focus
on hapa and xatalos
on whom the cases are much more strong


What about yamato? He just practically claimed scum.


where


Check my post on this page.


I hoped it was not the case
that your reasoning was so base
giving up can be done
just cause of not-fun
not because of alignment in this case

you could say something no matter your role
for example "hello" or other statements droll
what meta cases MUST show
(this you should know)
is that there's a basic demonstrably repeatable difference between the person's town and scum game. For example, someone could always say "hello everyone" as scum, but unless they don't ever do it as town, it's not good evidence for them being scum. Even if they only do it as scum, you need to show that they've been in similar situations as town and not done it. you'll need to do better than that if you want my vote to... roll.
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 22:14 GMT
#1461
On August 24 2014 07:12 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:04 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:00 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:57 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:53 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:52 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?


Jat's conversations and great and many
especially with the dying hapahauli
if he were cred-seeking scum
he wouldn't be such a chum
to someone we'd so soon bury

It's possible about him I'm wrong
and he's surely and enormous dong
but today we should focus
on hapa and xatalos
on whom the cases are much more strong


What about yamato? He just practically claimed scum.


where


Check my post on this page.


I hoped it was not the case
that your reasoning was so base
giving up can be done
just cause of not-fun
not because of alignment in this case

you could say something no matter your role
for example "hello" or other statements droll
what meta cases MUST show
(this you should know)
is that there's a basic demonstrably repeatable difference between the person's town and scum game. For example, someone could always say "hello everyone" as scum, but unless they don't ever do it as town, it's not good evidence for them being scum. Even if they only do it as scum, you need to show that they've been in similar situations as town and not done it. you'll need to do better than that if you want my vote to... roll.


It's just that he gave up pretty much exactly in the same manner, in the same tone, and even at the same time of day (lol). The only difference is that he said he doesn't have enough "time" instead of "motivation" to prevent getting lynched. I don't think that's a significant difference though. Like if he's tight on time, why not just try your best while you have time? (town yamato should be excited about the approaching deadline, like in Vendetta Strada, but here he's all *but* excited)


You're still missing the point. It doesn't matter how similar this is to something he did as scum, it has to be something he also doesn't do as town, even in similar situations, and it has to be consistent. That's how meta works. Stop missing the point.
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 22:32 GMT
#1469
On August 24 2014 07:25 Xatalos wrote:
In conclusion:

1) Town yamato doesn't make posts where he "gives up", scum yamato does
2) Town yamato is confident and aggro on players who disagree with him, scum yamato is not

Scum fits perfectly in this game for him.


You're drawing a distinction without a difference,
and "scum fits perfectly" is a massive overreach.
Though I certainly don't like how yamato plays,
this is how he always does.
badly.

This does not improve my opinion of you at all.

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