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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 15:30 GMT
#2153
I dont know if anyone has brought this up but rayn was a very strange night kill, and he said he was going to cop check hapa yesterday. So that is another piece to the puzzle.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 15:32 GMT
#2155
if you guys are truly going to go through with lynching me then I ask that you respect my dying wishes and lynch hapa tomorrow who is pretty much 90% the SK considering what happened day 1 with the lynch.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 15:35 GMT
#2157
onegu is a safe lynch because he hasn't even come back after the lynch, probably just gave up. This game is incredibly easy at this point but people want to make it difficult for whatever reason. I don't mind dying though I at least semi confirmed damdred.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 15:43 GMT
#2160
On August 26 2014 00:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 00:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
onegu is a safe lynch because he hasn't even come back after the lynch, probably just gave up. This game is incredibly easy at this point but people want to make it difficult for whatever reason. I don't mind dying though I at least semi confirmed damdred.

Actually it's particularly interesting that Onegu suspected Rayn last before he fucked off---I'm pretty sure nobody expected him to die, least of all scum so as scum it's a 'safe' target to leave suspicion on. Now that Rayn flipped Onegu actually looks worse than I thought.

Also VA the fact that you think that was a good use of your role is pretty hilarious


well you have to look at it from my perspective

I looked pretty scummy but no way in hell did i think people would just start piling on me immediately with no thought, so I thought i would get my 2nd night action off easily. But this put me in a weird situation. if you just look at it from a timelined point of view then it is fine. if you look at it from specifically WTF hes getting lynched why he use that shitty ability? then obviously it looks stupid
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 17:23 GMT
#2201
On August 26 2014 02:22 Xatalos wrote:
So I don't think anyone outside of VA/Onegu would be a good lynch today. Hapa is just too risky.


Onegu is pretty much confirmed to be scum at this point, our issue today is finding the third one. hapa is most likely the SK given his play but you're right its not worth it to lynch him today. Just don't make the mistake of giving him a free pass again tomorrow and lynch onegu for sure.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 20:30 GMT
#2278
On August 26 2014 04:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Also, I still think VA is our lynch today.

Everything he's done today:
  • Sketchy Claim
  • Sheep thread sentiment read-wise (Onegu is scum, I am SK).


This post in particular is pretty bad:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 02:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 26 2014 02:22 Xatalos wrote:
So I don't think anyone outside of VA/Onegu would be a good lynch today. Hapa is just too risky.


Onegu is pretty much confirmed to be scum at this point, our issue today is finding the third one. hapa is most likely the SK given his play but you're right its not worth it to lynch him today. Just don't make the mistake of giving him a free pass again tomorrow and lynch onegu for sure.


I have no idea how anyone could view Onegu as confirmed scum, considering what's in Onegu's filter (or lack thereof). It's a read that screams "convenience" as opposed to genuinity, just like Vayne's claim.


you forget that I have more info then everyone else since I know my role. He has to be scum from my point of view but you will find that out eventually.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 20:33 GMT
#2280
people voting me REALLY need to revisit the list of people in this game and go down a checklist of it and see that the game is way simpler then you are making it right now.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 20:35 GMT
#2281
On August 26 2014 05:32 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 05:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Also, I still think VA is our lynch today.

Everything he's done today:
  • Sketchy Claim
  • Sheep thread sentiment read-wise (Onegu is scum, I am SK).


This post in particular is pretty bad:
On August 26 2014 02:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 26 2014 02:22 Xatalos wrote:
So I don't think anyone outside of VA/Onegu would be a good lynch today. Hapa is just too risky.


Onegu is pretty much confirmed to be scum at this point, our issue today is finding the third one. hapa is most likely the SK given his play but you're right its not worth it to lynch him today. Just don't make the mistake of giving him a free pass again tomorrow and lynch onegu for sure.


I have no idea how anyone could view Onegu as confirmed scum, considering what's in Onegu's filter (or lack thereof). It's a read that screams "convenience" as opposed to genuinity, just like Vayne's claim.


you forget that I have more info then everyone else since I know my role. He has to be scum from my point of view but you will find that out eventually.


How does he have to be scum? You didn't confirm anything about Damdred - you said it yourself. Hell what about Kelsier, Wave and Xatalos?


Did you forget how robik was lynched? that pretty much absolves xatalos and wave as mafia. the first for voting him and the latter for adamantly refusing to switch which would be idiotic play as mafia there. Damdred is still up for being mafia but cant be SK, not worth lynching today.

I admit that I forgot about Kelsier but I think he has been pretty town the entire game, wouldnt lynch him either. who does that leave exactly? right.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 21:14 GMT
#2284
On August 26 2014 05:46 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 26 2014 05:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 26 2014 05:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 26 2014 04:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Also, I still think VA is our lynch today.

Everything he's done today:
  • Sketchy Claim
  • Sheep thread sentiment read-wise (Onegu is scum, I am SK).


This post in particular is pretty bad:
On August 26 2014 02:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 26 2014 02:22 Xatalos wrote:
So I don't think anyone outside of VA/Onegu would be a good lynch today. Hapa is just too risky.


Onegu is pretty much confirmed to be scum at this point, our issue today is finding the third one. hapa is most likely the SK given his play but you're right its not worth it to lynch him today. Just don't make the mistake of giving him a free pass again tomorrow and lynch onegu for sure.


I have no idea how anyone could view Onegu as confirmed scum, considering what's in Onegu's filter (or lack thereof). It's a read that screams "convenience" as opposed to genuinity, just like Vayne's claim.


you forget that I have more info then everyone else since I know my role. He has to be scum from my point of view but you will find that out eventually.


How does he have to be scum? You didn't confirm anything about Damdred - you said it yourself. Hell what about Kelsier, Wave and Xatalos?


Did you forget how robik was lynched? that pretty much absolves xatalos and wave as mafia. the first for voting him and the latter for adamantly refusing to switch which would be idiotic play as mafia there. Damdred is still up for being mafia but cant be SK, not worth lynching today.


As I pointed out before, Xatalos was in a situation where he was forced to vote literally anyone but himself (him being the alternative wagon). I read him town from behavior and from the general "feel" of the lynch (likely that two townies were on the block), but that doesn't mean he "confirmed" in the same way that others are.

RE: Wave - there's no reason for mafia not to object to the lynch. In one of my first games (Newbie 23), we ended up last-minute lynching the Godfather, and the only active scum at the deadline was objecting to the lynch. There's no reason why mafia can't do that.

If you want to read them as town for other reasons, I'm all ears. But you're making these sweeping conclusions about the lynch that just aren't correct.

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I admit that I forgot about Kelsier but I think he has been pretty town the entire game, wouldnt lynch him either. who does that leave exactly? right.


So who is the 3rd mafia then? You've basically confirmed everyone but Onegu, which means that you're terribly wrong about at least one person.


3 possibilities that im mulling over atm are

1. Damdred, this one is obvious, could just not have been him to send in the kill, but I think this is farfetch'd if onegu is the other mafia considering I wouldnt send in our kill on onegu as he was a likely target to get RB'd or the like. not feeling this.

2. Wave, you're right he could have just panic'd and refused to lynch his buddy but as you state yourself thats a newbie game and this is a long time player. I dont see him making that mistake here.

3. Kelsier, good new scumplayer that is fooling us all? thats what im left with. As you can see its not easy to just "find the third scum" the game isnt solved to the end yet.

Your push of xatalos is inconsistent with the meta read which you gave him btw, which I agree fully with after reading it. so i dont know why you keep wanting to bring xatalos in this.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 22:11 GMT
#2307
no one can claim anyway hence why I claimed...thought this would end this nonsense but I guess not.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 23:06 GMT
#2320
On August 26 2014 07:59 Xatalos wrote:
Did Onegu just forget about this game or something? He hasn't posted in ages.


why would onegu need to post? he might make a mistake and get people to switch. he just can do nothing all game since everybody in this game is so fucking dense.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 23:33 GMT
#2324
yea inside joke
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 26 2014 04:08 GMT
#2368
I mean I gave my reasoning for why I used my powers how I did, not sure what else I can do on that front.Misplaying my role in your eyes doesnt really have anything to do with making me scummy, or we would lynch oatsmaster every game.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 26 2014 04:19 GMT
#2374
On August 26 2014 13:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
I mean I gave my reasoning for why I used my powers how I did, not sure what else I can do on that front.Misplaying my role in your eyes doesnt really have anything to do with making me scummy, or we would lynch oatsmaster every game.


It's actually the main reason. And cl aiming now nullifies all your other really important skills. Why doing that?


i dont get lynched often so I panic at the sight of slightly being lynched

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/415754-i-swear-this-is-normal-mini-mafia

this game is a good example. im the cop here and everyone starts piling on me so I claim cop very early so we have time to figure out the correct lynch.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 26 2014 04:24 GMT
#2375
i have work tomorrow so ill be back a few hours before deadline hopefully.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 26 2014 23:02 GMT
#2589
dont worry guys im coming home now

plz read my filter next time said I had a long work day today be there in an hour.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 27 2014 00:29 GMT
#2659
alright im caught up with the thread, I like the meta case xatalos produced on hapa.

this is my theory anyway

Everyone is thinking hapa is the SK because he voted robik, but remember that he was the third vote...not the first or even the second. The perfect vote to blend in and who else would see a lynch like that coming a mile away except a strong player? So he jumps on the inevitable and gets pristine town cred from that.

Fast forward

People are still paranoid of him and constantly calling him the SK and he is getting pissed at this (unlike him) because his gambit is not paying off for reasons outside of his control. He repeats the weakest players in the thread and then drops his vote on me, annoyed with the game because of how deep in a hole they are now and he didnt even get the cred out of it in the end.

Hence why hapa is actually mafia here.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 27 2014 00:44 GMT
#2690
if you are town aligned I don't know how you can honestly think im still your #1 scumread, somebody would have claimed at this point now that the lynch is off me. Loopholes in logic like this have to be held accountable for a player of your caliber. How do I go from your weakest scumread to strongest scumread when you havent even been here
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 27 2014 00:50 GMT
#2704
#vote: hapahauli
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 27 2014 00:52 GMT
#2714
yo kelsier you need to vote.
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