|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
So I don't really like the last few interactions WoS has had. I know he thinks I am just focused on him but here is what I don't like.
1) I still don't like how he thinks Dam is scum like it just doesn't fit with how I read him and that makes me feel uneasy, also no one else is really pinging out Dam, he isn't going to be the lynch so why deflect on to him.
2) You have no "strong" scum reads like this just doesn't feel good at this point.
3) You got angry with rayn for seemingly no real reason, he was bringing up some good points and asking you reasonable questions and you just kind of exploded at him and It just felt forced to me.
If i get this straight you slightly fos me, dam and Xat as scum?
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 01:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 01:33 KelsierSC wrote:
So I don't really like the last few interactions WoS has had. I know he thinks I am just focused on him but here is what I don't like.
1) I still don't like how he thinks Dam is scum like it just doesn't fit with how I read him and that makes me feel uneasy, also no one else is really pinging out Dam, he isn't going to be the lynch so why deflect on to him.
2) You have no "strong" scum reads like this just doesn't feel good at this point.
3) You got angry with rayn for seemingly no real reason, he was bringing up some good points and asking you reasonable questions and you just kind of exploded at him and It just felt forced to me.
If i get this straight you slightly fos me, dam and Xat as scum? 1) Not deflecting, called him scum ages ago, trying to update reads. I'm sure in another case you could call me scum for sheeping onto a read everybody else has had rather than a 'new' target amirite? CONFIRMATION BIAS 2) never have strong scumreads D1. YOU DON KNO ME (in slightly hispanic accent) 3) Not the way I see it. KSC, who are you going to vote for, if at all?
I noted you did ping Dam pretty early in the game and you have stuck to the read, I just don't agree with the read that is why it meses with me. The other points are just my opinion/playstyle so I'm going to leave them.
I am going to be voting for Xat he is the scummiest by a mile. Like I said I still don't like you but what concerns me is that Xat gave you that early +4 rating and then backtracked on you and all of this weird stuff so at the moment I can't see you as scum together.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
rayn if you think Xat is mafia does that make WoS more or less scum?
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 01:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright I'm out. Likely won't be posting until tomorrow. MAYBE later tonight after I cast a ban match.
REALLY not a fan of KSC at all I suggest people look at him a little more closely---but then of course he's been attacking me most of the game so you should be ok with that, right?
Dunno wtf hapa/onegu are doing.
Or yamato.
Mayb one of them scum
I dunno
what happened to your scum read of dam?
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
rayn if you think Xat is mafia does that make WoS more or less scum? What are you trying to achieve by asking this?
I could probably ask you the same thing.
I was basically asking if he believed Xat would make his partner one of his top town
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 01:55 justanothertownie wrote:
I also attacked damdred btw. do you think I am scum for it?
tbh I read you as strong town pretty early so I wasn't ever considering you scum for today.
I didn't actually see you attack dam tbh so not sure what you are talking about.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 02:02 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:On August 23 2014 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
rayn if you think Xat is mafia does that make WoS more or less scum? What are you trying to achieve by asking this? I could probably ask you the same thing. I was basically asking if he believed Xat would make his partner one of his top town Connections cases on day1 tend to suck pretty hard. It just feels like a really irrelevant thing to ask.
It is relevant to me
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't unedrstand why you question your townreads instead of scumreads KSC?
you are a town read of mine.
I wanted to know how people i think are town view people I believe are scum.
So if you had said "i think it makes WoS seem more town" I take that into consideration
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 02:13 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't unedrstand why you question your townreads instead of scumreads KSC? you are a town read of mine. I wanted to know how people i think are town view people I believe are scum. So if you had said "i think it makes WoS seem more town" I take that into consideration Why aren't you asking about his opinion on them then? Plain and simple. Why do you feel the need to create some kind of connection based read?
The connection is something I use when making my read so if someone I think is town believes the connection is important then that factors into my read aswell.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
so rayn thinks the connection isn't that important it lets me evaluate WoS without that weighing on my mind and leaves me confident in my WoS scum read.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 02:15 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 02:13 justanothertownie wrote:On August 23 2014 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't unedrstand why you question your townreads instead of scumreads KSC? you are a town read of mine. I wanted to know how people i think are town view people I believe are scum. So if you had said "i think it makes WoS seem more town" I take that into consideration Why aren't you asking about his opinion on them then? Plain and simple. Why do you feel the need to create some kind of connection based read? The connection is something I use when making my read so if someone I think is town believes the connection is important then that factors into my read aswell. Maybe we just disagree on how to read people day1, whatever. If scumreading damdred is the only/biggest reason for your scumread on Wave then I don't like it.
I think I made it clear throughout almost the whole day that I have a lot of reasons for scum reading WoS
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 02:24 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 02:20 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On August 23 2014 02:15 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 02:13 justanothertownie wrote:On August 23 2014 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't unedrstand why you question your townreads instead of scumreads KSC? you are a town read of mine. I wanted to know how people i think are town view people I believe are scum. So if you had said "i think it makes WoS seem more town" I take that into consideration Why aren't you asking about his opinion on them then? Plain and simple. Why do you feel the need to create some kind of connection based read? The connection is something I use when making my read so if someone I think is town believes the connection is important then that factors into my read aswell. Maybe we just disagree on how to read people day1, whatever. If scumreading damdred is the only/biggest reason for your scumread on Wave then I don't like it. I think I made it clear throughout almost the whole day that I have a lot of reasons for scum reading WoS Hm, your filter reveals that your other reasons were that he has been useless and that you don't think his anger is genuine. Meh.
He didn't have a fos when he was asked and kind of danced around giving a proper read.
Also he asked really useless questions to fake activity and I didn't like that at all
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 02:52 Xatalos wrote:
Not really sure about Robik but he's vocal / engaged enough that he looks like a bad lynch. And he constantly claims town which would be a bit odd as scum.
you think scum don't claim town?
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 05:08 Xatalos wrote:
I feel the urge to /sheep Hapa because he understands my meta and brought a good point about rayn. But it's my policy not to lynch heavyweight players on D1 :/ Gah maybe this is too much to turn a blind eye on though.
Ok here is my major problem Xatalos
Firstly you didn't really scum read rayn at all you said he was null and a lot of it was waffle about him being awake. In fact then you go on to give him a little town plug.
On August 23 2014 03:54 Xatalos wrote:
I can kind of see rayn's town motivation in this though because I slipped hard in Intrigue as scum by contradicting myself between various PM's / thread posts.
But then Hapa gives his read that rayn is mafia. Which you immediately jump on saying how it is "possible". Considering this is the first thing Hapa said and he has lurked all game you are ready to just flip on it. I really don't like that at all.
As far as the read Hapa gave, I disagree I think rayn is town. I am still undecided on Hapa
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
So I wasn't here for the mafia tools stunt, it doesn't clear you for me. In fact it feeds into my scum read of you.
I'm going to give my reasons here.
1) The initial list was just bad, you had some weird reads on rayn for being asleep and you had WoS as top town. It just didn't line up for me.
2) you voted and kind of went on dam when I read him town, you then unvoted him but now think he is mafia again.
3) You then went about "finding" who to lynch and you put a town list of me and 2 basically confirmed, everyone else was a maybe. Like you gave no real reads and just seemed wishy washy
4) Your mafia notes confirmed this. Everyone has a score close to 0. Everyone could be scum or not sure if town like there is nothing of value at all. you have GB at an 8, good the confirmed town is probably town.
5) The pressure is on you and you jump onto this rayn is mafia thing that Hapu brought up even though he has lurked and done nothing.
So TLDR
Your reads don't line up with my reads. People I view as town view you scummy, Your reads are wishy washy and don't have a lot of substance. You jump on a mafia read from someone who has like 2 posts this game.
##Vote Xatalos
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Why would a scummer make the effort of faking notes and then only come up with null reads?
So My issue is that the mafia notes is just a page of waffle and nothingness to me that is indicative of mafia, I think if you are town you should have a scum read by now. or at least more substantiation than he had.
as for why would they fake notes, I don't know what you mean by fake but like it isn't difficult to maintain a page of notes so when things look bad you can copy/paste and go "look i am town!"
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 05:50 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 05:48 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Why would a scummer make the effort of faking notes and then only come up with null reads? So My issue is that the mafia notes is just a page of waffle and nothingness to me that is indicative of mafia, I think if you are town you should have a scum read by now. or at least more substantiation than he had. as for why would they fake notes, I don't know what you mean by fake but like it isn't difficult to maintain a page of notes so when things look bad you can copy/paste and go "look i am town!" So do you think xatalos and rayn are scum together or how does that make sense?
what the fuck when did I ever say that
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 05:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 05:50 justanothertownie wrote:On August 23 2014 05:48 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Why would a scummer make the effort of faking notes and then only come up with null reads? So My issue is that the mafia notes is just a page of waffle and nothingness to me that is indicative of mafia, I think if you are town you should have a scum read by now. or at least more substantiation than he had. as for why would they fake notes, I don't know what you mean by fake but like it isn't difficult to maintain a page of notes so when things look bad you can copy/paste and go "look i am town!" So do you think xatalos and rayn are scum together or how does that make sense? what the fuck when did I ever say that I never said you did. But to me it doesn't really make sense otherwise. Whatver I am not lynching the guy with the biggest filter.
So the only world where things make sense is that Xan is scum is if rayn is also scum?
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 05:58 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 05:56 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 05:55 justanothertownie wrote:On August 23 2014 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 05:50 justanothertownie wrote:On August 23 2014 05:48 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Why would a scummer make the effort of faking notes and then only come up with null reads? So My issue is that the mafia notes is just a page of waffle and nothingness to me that is indicative of mafia, I think if you are town you should have a scum read by now. or at least more substantiation than he had. as for why would they fake notes, I don't know what you mean by fake but like it isn't difficult to maintain a page of notes so when things look bad you can copy/paste and go "look i am town!" So do you think xatalos and rayn are scum together or how does that make sense? what the fuck when did I ever say that I never said you did. But to me it doesn't really make sense otherwise. Whatver I am not lynching the guy with the biggest filter. So the only world where things make sense is that Xan is scum is if rayn is also scum? In that world what you said at least makes a little bit of sense, yes. But I doubt that we are living in that world.
Ok I don't understand where you are coming from as Xat and rayn have kind of butted heads the whole game.
Like to me Xat is mafia rayn is town. I don't understand this weird shit you are talking about
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 06:01 Damdred wrote:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but kel is saying xat thinks I'm still mafia when the thread says otherqise. Xat says I'm unlynchable today and defends me on several occasions.
yeh you are misunderstanding he defends you now but he did like vote and go pretty hard on you despite his read being that you were "awkward" like it is more wishy washy stuff that I don't like at all.
On August 23 2014 06:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Yes, I noticed that too.
Interesting
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
