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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 15:30 GMT
#2467
On August 27 2014 00:27 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 00:09 Xatalos wrote:
On August 26 2014 23:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 26 2014 23:25 Xatalos wrote:
On August 26 2014 23:15 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 26 2014 23:11 Xatalos wrote:
This argument is a bit too WIFOM for my taste :/ The fact remains that KSC has pushed his own views really hard and appears to evaluate his reads constantly (although with some weird methods). I don't like how he disregards things like the meta towncase on me, but that's not enough to lynch him at all... He seems more misguided than pushing a mislynch on me.


It is not the basis of my scumread on him. You know I've been pushing on him since his beginning (awkward entrance, town pass for Robik, now this post I've analysed). The WIFOM was secondary and now it looks useless with so much scenarios possible.


I don't think scum KSC would so casually townread scum Robik though. And awkward entrances aren't limited to scum.


His entrance fits SK motivation and there is no "too mafia to be mafia" anymore for me.

He gave his reasonings on why he is not scum, I am evaluating it already. Now give me a better lynch today


I think we just lynch VA or Onegu today. They both didn't do anything actually helpful during D1, didn't care about the lynch and voted for something random. Onegu hasn't still even catched up with the thread. VA's claim could potentially be real, so I think Onegu may be the better choice.

I think it'd be difficult for KSC to maintain this level of effort / care for the lynch choices throughout the game as SK.


Then whos a legit second target for a wagon to you if you think VA claim is real? Or is it just Onegu (who might get mod killed anyway today)


I think it might be real. Hard to say, but it's possible. Since the possibility exists, Onegu may be the better choice. If he just gets modkilled then VA I guess.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 16:05 GMT
#2469
On August 27 2014 00:38 Damdred wrote:
Xata what do you think about wave right now


Probably town? He's put in a lot of effort to analyze the game IMO. It worries me a bit that he claimed to follow jat's lead with last-minute shenanigans, but refused to follow when jat voted for Robik and it was between me/Robik. It feels weird that he would choose to save Robik instead of me when he townread me. Then again, would he really act so obviously against it if he was Robik's teammate? WIFOM...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 16:09 GMT
#2470
Actually WOS didn't exactly townread me.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 16:15 GMT
#2472
Still weird that he refused to vote for Robik when 1) he claimed to follow jat's lead and jat voted for Robik 2) he didn't have any real opinion of Robik (except "Robik being Robik") and didn't exactly townread me, but agreed with me a lot and didn't seem to at least suspect me.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 16:17 GMT
#2473
I can't see him giving a real read on either me or Robik anywhere during D1. Maybe it's a bit off that he opposed lynching Robik so much.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 16:17 GMT
#2474
It would be dumb to be so direct as scum though. WIFOM
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 16:23 GMT
#2476
Yeah I don't see it as sensible to lynch WOS now. Perhaps he should be revisited depending on today's flip.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 16:55 GMT
#2480
I already said that it was stupid to include your name there, WOS, so dunno why you would bring it up again.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 16:59 GMT
#2482
Yeah it's possible that Onegu will just get modkilled. I'll keep my vote on him for now though to encourage him returning to the thread. He could be just scum/SK lurking and returning to vote close to deadline.

Hapa's absence is a bit disturbing (just parking his vote on VA, his weakest(?) scumread, and not really playing after that). Still not enough to lynch him today.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 17:06 GMT
#2485
Something you're looking out for?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 17:08 GMT
#2487
Yeah it's bad that VA hasn't really done anything useful after claiming. If his intention was to help scumhunting, then he didn't achieve that at all (only focused the talk on the claim / if blues should claim / etc.). Not good.

Then again why wouldn't he claim something a bit more sensible? It feels like the claim is even a bit too bad to be fake (lol).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 17:09 GMT
#2488
On August 27 2014 02:07 turtlevine wrote:
##unvote VA
##vote KSC


Don't just sheep GB :/ Why?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 17:57 GMT
#2502
LOL
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 17:59 GMT
#2503
turtlevine, could you perhaps share what you've been talking about in the Mason QT? It feels like you're only sharing a small portion of what you've been talking about and the result feels a bit ridiculous. I don't think either of you has even talked about WOS being scum before.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 18:05 GMT
#2504
I gotta say that I also have some feelings of doubt about the VA lynch, which is why my vote is currently on Onegu. I don't think that's a reason enough to redeem VA when he made a dubious claim and lurked after that though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 18:27 GMT
#2508
Yeah I think we'll just lynch VA if it looks like Onegu is getting modkilled anyway. Hapa/KSC can be considered tomorrow. Though I still haven't seen a good reason to lynch KSC.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 18:29 GMT
#2509
At least you could make the argument that the KSC wagon is pushed by town :D Unfortunately it's not a very convincing argument.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 19:01 GMT
#2515
I'm entertaining the idea of lynching Hapa. His play seems to be focused on just making random cases and lynching pretty much anyone he can instead of actually finding the best lynch. The problem is... it'll feel SO bad if it's wrong
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 19:01 GMT
#2516
And it's not like there is a strong case on him + he lynched scum on D1.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 26 2014 20:10 GMT
#2519
On August 27 2014 04:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 04:01 Xatalos wrote:
And it's not like there is a strong case on him + he lynched scum on D1.


My drunk personality lunched scum on day1.
I don't believe Rayn and Hapa could be from the same alignment, so... Kill him


Are you sure about that? I've seen town vs town ego wars before (besides Hapa didn't really participate outside of making the case).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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