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On August 25 2014 07:08 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 07:02 justanothertownie wrote:On August 25 2014 06:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Xatalos from the votes.
1) It was initially between you and yam so you had no reason to switch.
2) It was then the votes started swinging towards Robik away from Yam so the vote was still between you and Robik.
If you stuck on Yamato either you or Robik got lynched so you switching over does not clear you as town at all it just stunk as someone trying to live and maybe get town credibility.
That's fair but we aren't lynching Xatalos day2 so you guys should maybe try to analyse something different now. You are beating a dead horse anyways. I am responding to this fallacy from Xat Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 06:18 Xatalos wrote:
I'm not entirely sure I understand. I suppose your argument is that:
1) Hapa+jat wanted to save me and would have gotten yamato lynched instead of me if I didn't go for Robik too
2) That means I purposefully killed the Mafia Godfather (who wasn't under much of any suspicion before) when I had the option of still going for yamato to mislynch a townie instead
3) This was supposed to take some heat off me, but really it feels like the same people are still suspecting me and the same people are still townreading me
How does this make sense as scum Xatalos? point 1 is wrong as Hap specifically said it was between Dam and Robik Xat had every reason to switch to Robik as it stopped him being the lynch. This isn't beating a dead horse it is pointing out incorrect reasoning from Xat. As for analysing something else I already analysed Dam again and concluded he was town, see earlier.
I don't honestly care too much about this topic one way or another. Point 1 isn't even my interpretation of the situation but Damdred's. IMO it was chaotic and it's hard to say what would have happened if I hadn't voted for Robik.
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On August 25 2014 06:29 Damdred wrote:
I can accept that it would be a dumb bus...bjt you dodged around the bit about the sk and your play this game lining up with it
I don't think I'd play quite like this as SK. I'd probably be just peaceful and try to agree with everyone as much as possible while maintaining some level of scumhunting.
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Btw before you call something "shit tier" you should explain why it's bad. No, "he's emulating his town play that always gathers pressure instead of his safe scum playstyle!" isn't quite enough.
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I think your persistence is a towny trait, yes.
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Oh only 1h left to resolution period. Ready your cases :D
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Freedom 
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Tbh I doubt I'll get NK'd tonight so I'm mostly looking forward to hearing new things. Like GB, your scumcase on rayn+KSC?
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On August 25 2014 09:11 Damdred wrote:
You promised me your three cases xata lets hear them
I'll evaluate my reads based on what happens here + night kills. I'm still not completely sure who I want to lynch.
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On August 25 2014 09:22 KelsierSC wrote:
I came into the night with the intention of rereading Dam and rayn as they were the two biggest question marks based on votes. After rereading I am convinced they are both town. I gave reasons for both of my reads , you can find my reasons I don't want to rehash.
so I still view Xat, Va, and Onegu as my top scum.
I think Onegu is my top lynch for the day mainly because he only pushed on rayn giving a pretty weak reason and at the time when rayn was taking a lot of heat. He was incredibly inactive for the whole game.
Xat won't be lynched today due to his vote ( I gave my thoughts on this ) but I think I will just see his whoever he reads as scum and then put that person in my town list.
VA seems scummy aswell, I don't like how he was inactive at the deadline, or his dam read in retrospect.
Mainly I think not voting Rob and being inactive makes you scummy considering that the pressure was misplaced (yamato, dam, rayn)
rofl
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On August 25 2014 00:06 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote:
Why is everyone trying to explain everything for xatalos? Its quite annoying frankly I'm not a idiot i understand why it has to be the people who didn't go to robik. I didn't ask for that explanation i asked him why those three and to develop cases.
@Kel but why switch to yamato you had just as strong a scum read onxata and you thought both were mafia indeed you gave xata a lot more attention in your filter than qnyone else and the chances of his lynch were decent.... I thought Xata was scum, I thought Yamato was scum. If the voting had been different, say it was tied between yam and someone I thought was town then I would have switched over to Yam to make sure that vote went through and mafia didn't force through a ML. I ended up not switching because Xat tried to really push through a lynch on Yam (who he had read town and shared the same reads as) and Xat felt so unbelievably scummy that by the deadline I was thinking Yam must be town.
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Hmm. Not really sold on scum WOS atm. And as WOS mentioned there's a big time gap between those random suspicions and being aimless again.
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On August 25 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Hapa, why is rayn town?
Good question :/
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I hope the NK's wont just hit GB/turtlevine so that they'll reveal something new.
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On August 25 2014 09:43 Hapahauli wrote:@ WaveFirstly, it doesn't matter whether or not you took a break from the thread. It was under my impression that you did. But if you did not, no matter. The issue is how you went from a mentality to being "skeptical of everything" to not considering anything other than lynching Yamato very quickly. Like, you were pretty skeptical of me and Xatalos even after you voted for Yamato. And it's so strange for you to have no doubts about Yamato being mafia after this exchange: Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 08:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey, so 1.5h to go.
Who the fuck are we lynching?
Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 08:29 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 08:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey, so 1.5h to go.
Who the fuck are we lynching?
Vote yamato Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 08:29 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 08:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey, so 1.5h to go.
Who the fuck are we lynching?
Yamato obviously. Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 08:29 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 08:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey, so 1.5h to go.
Who the fuck are we lynching?
Vote yamato lol, really? Yeah. And on top of all this, you still have to explain to me how voting Yamato, then calling like 5-6 people mafia and antagonizing one of yoru town reads is remotely town-motivated.
To be fair WOS was already voting yamato at that point and the "lol, really?" was because I told him to vote for yamato when he was already voting...
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On August 25 2014 09:53 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 09:47 Hapahauli wrote:On August 25 2014 09:46 KelsierSC wrote:On August 25 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hapa, I picked my strongest suspicion and rolled with it.
Pretty fucking simple if you ask me.
The 'who are we lynching' was meant because the thread had no aim at the time. If you look at the post directly before i left the thread I talked about consolidation then too. Since my vote is on yamato, and the thread had no aim, I started pushing everyone towards my strongest scumread, yamato.
Is that not completely fucking obvious to everyone?
Am I in the fucking twilight zone here? Yeh Wave is town, Hapa you are wrong about this Why should I listen to you again? you read me as town
You seem to confuse correct and town a lot in this game though...
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On August 25 2014 09:55 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 09:54 Xatalos wrote:On August 25 2014 09:53 KelsierSC wrote:On August 25 2014 09:47 Hapahauli wrote:On August 25 2014 09:46 KelsierSC wrote:On August 25 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hapa, I picked my strongest suspicion and rolled with it.
Pretty fucking simple if you ask me.
The 'who are we lynching' was meant because the thread had no aim at the time. If you look at the post directly before i left the thread I talked about consolidation then too. Since my vote is on yamato, and the thread had no aim, I started pushing everyone towards my strongest scumread, yamato.
Is that not completely fucking obvious to everyone?
Am I in the fucking twilight zone here? Yeh Wave is town, Hapa you are wrong about this Why should I listen to you again? you read me as town You seem to confuse correct and town a lot in this game though... you seem confused this entire game
That's because I have been. I will push scum to death when I become convinced.
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On August 25 2014 09:56 KelsierSC wrote:
Also turtle/GB
if you think I'm scum you can basically call Xat town. Saying he could be scum/sk but calling me scum is just shit
Well the existence of a SK negates some of this connection stuff. Besides it's bad to pre-flip speculate.
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Pretty surprised about rayn getting NK'd.
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My immediate thought was to suspect Hapa based on the NK's but no way scum Hapa busses Robik in that situation.
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EPT
