EPTso I'm breaking ranks with my mason buddy
let's get rid of Xat
his lies and just can't
let me continue to follow GB
##unvote
##vote Xatalos
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turtlevine
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so I'm breaking ranks with my mason buddy let's get rid of Xat his lies and just can't let me continue to follow GB ##unvote ##vote Xatalos | ||
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turtlevine
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Rayn and Kelsen, with xat secondary Rayn : There is no way Hapahauli and Rayn are both town, considering their interaction. The thread got really shit-flingy and really bad, and as townies they'd both want things to remain at least comprehensible. So, one of them must be instigating scum, or both. They could both be scum, because one could be SK and the other could be mafia. They've both both shitty arguments to call out each other, which strikes GB/me as odd. Another thing, is that Hapa oddly unvoted rain after making an entrance with a big case. GB finds this interesting because once, in an obs QT, Hapa said that as mafia, GB should've tried to make a mroe remarkable post-- not being remarkable in any way at all is bad as scum. The awareness of this tactic means he could subvert the trend and make a big post as scum. Hapa's quick join onto Robik ( as opposed to a delayed join once it was working) means that Hapa is definitely not mafia, though he could be scum. So, if we believe one of Rayn/Hapa is going to be scum, it should be Rayn. Side note is that Onegu's tunnel on rayn is very suspicious and a clever way of avoiding talking about other things. If rayn flips town, Onegu is more likely to be scum. I'm going to be quick on Xat. You know that his jump wasn't a clincher, and that he could have done whatever as scum. He could also be the SK. we can't rule him out on that. KSC: this is a bit of a tough nut to crack, but here's the basis for our case. Note that at the start of the day, KSC votes Xatalos. This is OK. This is what you would think. His reasons are not very good. but they are reasons. Look at how else he treats xatalos though. He talks a bit later about how Xat is on his list, but he doesn't lay on the syrup as much as you would expect for a serious push. What shows he is scum is how he acts bout Xat. Right after the deadline, after the flip, he apologizes to xat. Then he says Xat is town. Thats good. But then afterwards, he says, "xat could still be sk" and this is still kind of reasonable. He explicitly puts Xat in his town list, then moves him back to his scumlist, and isn't very clear on his reasons about this. this flipflopping on xat is very unusual. Either Xat is showing characteristics of an SK, or he isn't. None of this is in reference to things Xat did after the deadline, it's just KSC changing his opinion. It's plausible that this is a legitimate change of heart. GB and I do not think so. It appears opportunitistic. Rayn and KSC. that's our lynch choice for tomorrow. | ||
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turtlevine
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guess scum and sk tried not to overlap and got to fancy. On August 25 2014 09:56 KelsierSC wrote: Also turtle/GB if you think I'm scum you can basically call Xat town. Saying he could be scum/sk but calling me scum is just shit I'm no longer reading what you're writing, because it is unpleasant to do so. Just noting that the last two scum don't have the same alignment, bro. There's nothing stopping your inconsistent logic from happening to coincidentally be right, so stop shitting a brick  | ||
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turtlevine
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breathing, living, waiting for death we expected nothing but bullets, until we thought-- what is the position of the shooters? obviously we must die. Scum would shoot us. but also, after losing one of their number, they dare not overlap. their hands tremble at the thought, torn between twin fears of our lives and deaths in singleton rather than paired. ironic, then, that their fear is not death, but the waste of it, for every not-kill is another chance given to the town. woefully, they turn their guns away from the confirmeds, each hoping the other has more courage than he. and each finding himself alone | ||
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turtlevine
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On August 25 2014 10:11 KelsierSC wrote: Hopefully you do a lot more as town this day. oh, is someone salty about the outcome of the last night, or perhaps of the day previous? I hope the actions so far have not proven too grievous (to your cause) ##vote KelsierSC | ||
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turtlevine
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On August 25 2014 10:11 Hapahauli wrote: To be fair turtle, KSC changed his mind on Xat because I spent time pointing out that logical flaw in his opinion on Xat. Read the interaction (including my posts) then make up your mind. It seems like you just skimmed his filter and made a quick judgement. It was GB's idea, he didn't even explain why KSC was scum, or even mention the read in our Mason QT. I just felt like given that we might potentially both die, I have an obligation to write a case for him since he couldn't be around to write it himself. I did what I could! I'm sure he'll show up shortly with an even better case. | ||
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turtlevine
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because were i in doubt, under such pressure I'd squirm despite what you may perceive as poor logic I assure you my vote is nothing so tragic I trust that my mason partner GB will explain my vote quite eloquently we only need wait for his righteous return for the many good reasons that you will all learn. | ||
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turtlevine
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##vote VayneAuthority | ||
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turtlevine
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On August 26 2014 00:30 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont know if anyone has brought this up but rayn was a very strange night kill, and he said he was going to cop check hapa yesterday. So that is another piece to the puzzle. Realistically speaking, even assuming hapa is scum, I still don't think hapa killed rayn. It's utterly predictable that following a rayn death, hapa's chance of getting lynched goes up. If Hapa is mafia, then SK killed rayn, and vice versa. | ||
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turtlevine
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On August 26 2014 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote: Your comment is weird. Scum, whether hapa or not obviously didn't kill Rayn. But I don't think anyone thinks hapa is mafia anymore. Do you have reason to, given the way the end of day went yesterday? what do you mean, scum didn't kill rayn? how did he die then, if not via scum? You think a vigi shot him? | ||
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turtlevine
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I'm sorry I don't understand. | ||
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turtlevine
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"Sorry, there's no salt on this bagel, just NaCl" | ||
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turtlevine
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On August 26 2014 01:57 WaveofShadow wrote: Do you plan on letting GB play the entire game for you or something? Letting GB play the game for me has worked amazingly well so far, I see no reason to stop. 2 scum are dead and it's D2. As my uncle used to say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Then again, he was an alcoholic and beat his kids, so who knows if that guy was trustworthy. So are you claiming Vigi or do you not have some reason to believe scum isn't behind the rayn kill | ||
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turtlevine
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On August 26 2014 02:00 Damdred wrote: I don't know if VA is scum, I don't like the timing of the claim or the skill he used but I am not positive that its a fake claim. Hypothetically speaking, besides the timing of the claim being wrong, or the claim itself and the actions claimed being bad, what other info could possibly convince you that the claim is fake? | ||
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turtlevine
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On August 26 2014 02:05 Xatalos wrote: Or even the setup..... Honestly. Only 1 scum is dead so far. And the second kill was made by SK. Yes... obviously. WoS seems to be saying that it was NOT made by scum, which is why I'm asking him. | ||
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turtlevine
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turtlevine
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On August 26 2014 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Because in the English language, different words can have similar or the same meaning. These words are called synonyms. This has been today's English lesson with WaveofShadow http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Scum "Scum is a catch-all term for any member of an informed minority, such as Serial Killers and Mafia goons. During a day phase, everybody is seemingly trying to locate and eliminate these roles." | ||
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turtlevine
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2 scum are dead because we're lynching VA today, who is obviously scum. He's even more obviously scum if you're actually the vig since there's no way we'd have both a vigi and a joat. | ||
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turtlevine
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turtlevine
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On August 26 2014 02:44 Xatalos wrote: Sorry, I misremembered obviously scum as confirmed scum. There's a slight difference indeed. Not sure why youd make that mistake. how could he even be confirmed scum in this situation? I don't even | ||
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