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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 20:43 GMT
#1398
too bad I was the first one to call you out for your rayn case lol
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 20:44 GMT
#1399
On August 23 2014 07:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
if anything yamato is scum for the simple reason that he already wants to lynch me, look at every scumgame he has ever played and he always tries to gets me lynched, he has some weird fetish for it.



On August 23 2014 05:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't understand hapa's entrance. its meant to make a big splash so to speak even in the word choice. But in the end its just covering up an awful case on a player that we aren't going to lynch day 1. What is your gameplan here?



both of these comments were made well before any suspicion was on you or yamato, at least read filters if you are gonna write garbo cases.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 20:52 GMT
#1401
On August 24 2014 05:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Actually yeah you're right on the above. However that doesn't really change the basic point of my case - I could as well have taken out the section on you sheeping thread sentiment and the basic point would have still stood.

When you represent yourself as helpful and attempting to fix an awful thread, you did the least productive thing possible -you went off to an irrelevant wagon and barely pushed it.


thats great except you would somehow have to link that with being something strange and I have plenty of games in my library to show that I do not push lynches and I do not follow the majority. Hence why I only play plurality games and not majority lynch games.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 20:54 GMT
#1402
at any rate I need an updated read from you on JAT, for science.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 20:55 GMT
#1404
I am null on him if that matters.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 20:56 GMT
#1405
On August 24 2014 05:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 05:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 05:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Actually yeah you're right on the above. However that doesn't really change the basic point of my case - I could as well have taken out the section on you sheeping thread sentiment and the basic point would have still stood.

When you represent yourself as helpful and attempting to fix an awful thread, you did the least productive thing possible -you went off to an irrelevant wagon and barely pushed it.


thats great except you would somehow have to link that with being something strange and I have plenty of games in my library to show that I do not push lynches and I do not follow the majority. Hence why I only play plurality games and not majority lynch games.


I don't need meta to show that representing your play as something other than you're doing is scummy.


so you are now basing your case on the semantics of what being "helpful" constitutes, which is a completely subjective term?

I think I'm helping the thread, you don't. Guess what only my opinion matters when it comes to what you are trying to argue.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 20:57 GMT
#1406
I can do this all day I dont get lynched as town becaus I dont leave pores in my logic and my foundation. Shitty cases will be shot down on sight as usual.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:12 GMT
#1421
On August 24 2014 06:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 05:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
at any rate I need an updated read from you on JAT, for science.

Now that you got your answer - what is your scientific insight?


lines up pretty well with my thoughts so he either got lucky or is reading the thread as opposed to full on filters, id go with the latter. Could have picked anyone really just a test.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:14 GMT
#1424
On August 24 2014 06:08 Damdred wrote:
Vayne, You disapeared on me earlier after I made my post. Are you still scum reading me for the reasons you posted? Feels a bit weird that you made the post a follow up and then left


didnt really feel a reason to reply, I agree that the GB stuff was insight, disagree on wave, rest is fluff imo. You would need to convince me why I should switch over to yamato cause thats probably the only other option im looking at atm.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:18 GMT
#1426
On August 24 2014 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
See Hapa, what you did so far is a garbage case on rayn that you retracted and now you are going on the 2 people who aren't doing anything. They may very well be scum but you are going after the easy targets.


Cool. Now what do you think of my cases then? Broad generalizations about my play aside of course.

You barely have a case on yamato. You are just stating the obvious and anyone could do that.
Your case on Vayne is not bad maybe. The good point here is that Vayne actually trys to look like he is interested which is not his townmeta as far as I see it.


you know as well as anyone that I could just fuck off and post nothing day 1 and nobody would think anything of it. Im not dumb enough to not know my own meta -_- try to help and i get called scum for it leL
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:20 GMT
#1431
On August 24 2014 06:19 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Damdred

he drops off anytime anything game defining happens, knocking it in


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.


These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with.

Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet...

Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting


so where do you propose we go from here then? I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish day 1 thats a good place to start.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:28 GMT
#1436
On August 24 2014 06:23 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:19 Damdred wrote:
On August 23 2014 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Damdred

he drops off anytime anything game defining happens, knocking it in


On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.


These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with.

Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet...

Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting


so where do you propose we go from here then? I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish day 1 thats a good place to start.


Obviously the only place to go is scum hunt, i've already put forth that I think Xatalos is pretty scummy. And I don't like Onegu case on Rayn and his promise to read the thread and contribute has him not really doing anything at all.

And honestly i'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish day one vayne


Ideally day one my goal is to simply survive and start lining up conversations and how they hold up with actions. I dont necessarily always need/want to kill scum day 1 as it isnt a pressing matter yet. Its better to gather a ton of info here.

As an aside why does easy vote = not scum to you?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:28 GMT
#1437
I have to go for now ill be back later if you respond.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 24 2014 19:08 GMT
#1930
nice job on the lynch guys, finally got a chance to read up. I think we would have caught robik eventually simply for afking the majority of the game, if I recall he is usually more active.

ill be back later tonight to see the night actions and do some analysis on that if needed.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 24 2014 20:07 GMT
#1942
On August 25 2014 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
nice job on the lynch guys, finally got a chance to read up. I think we would have caught robik eventually simply for afking the majority of the game, if I recall he is usually more active.

ill be back later tonight to see the night actions and do some analysis on that if needed.


Would you say you were subjectively useful yesterday?

With your vote being on Damdred and all.


there is a lot of discussion on me and damdred so I would say thats useful. I wanted to come back before deadline but real life did not permit so I lose points there, looks bad.

In the end we dont know if my vote is bad or not yet
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 01:40 GMT
#2082
ill get this out of the way and claim then since it will make the game considerably easier imo.

im a jack of all trades, have the option to cop check, roleblock, or watch some one. Can only use 2 of the three.

Last night I RB'ed damdred so he cant be the SK, but could be the mafia that didnt turn in the kill. Will probably use my cop check tomorrow on some one else but I dont think it will matter
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 02:04 GMT
#2087
On August 25 2014 11:02 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 10:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill get this out of the way and claim then since it will make the game considerably easier imo.

im a jack of all trades, have the option to cop check, roleblock, or watch some one. Can only use 2 of the three.

Last night I RB'ed damdred so he cant be the SK, but could be the mafia that didnt turn in the kill. Will probably use my cop check tomorrow on some one else but I dont think it will matter


Why on earth wouldn't you use your cop check first?


I wanted to block a shot since I was pretty convinced damdred is mafia, which is more valuable then simply finding out some one is mafia. I dont see why you would ask that seems obvious to me
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 02:07 GMT
#2090
you guys really think using cop was the best one available wtf? only reason i even considered it is because godfather is dead. otherwise i would use watcher
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 02:41 GMT
#2095
On August 25 2014 11:12 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 11:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
you guys really think using cop was the best one available wtf? only reason i even considered it is because godfather is dead. otherwise i would use watcher


Watcher would have been great too. You literally picked the most useless night action out of your toolkit.


neither of those actually block NKs, RB does, agree to disagree.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 25 2014 03:36 GMT
#2110
On August 25 2014 12:34 Damdred wrote:
I'm reminded in Titanic when Vayne claimed the shot on Rayn even though Batsnacks did it and almost got himself lynched doing that.


this is completely different, i was under 0 pressure at that point so I thought it was worth, here im simply claiming to save my life. didnt really want to cuz i wanted to use a 2nd power but no point saving it if im dead.
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