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On August 15 2014 20:01 Palmar wrote: The point is, it shouldn't have to be used. I didn't add it with the expectation it'd be used, although the yolo is strong in tl mafia. Haha. Like I could resist the temptation  | ||
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On August 16 2014 06:26 Damdred wrote: Well good now we know if yamato is lurky he's scum rather than scum praise the sun  | ||
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On August 18 2014 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: I AM HOME AND MY BODY IS READY! Bring it on bitches! ^^ Get ready to be wrecked by the Shitty Witch power  | ||
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On August 18 2014 07:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay guys i am kiterayn and i am an ordinary person. Now gimme some gunz'n ammo so i can decide if to shoot yamato or not! I think that decision will be pretty easy in yamato's case. | ||
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On August 18 2014 07:52 Tehpoofter wrote: IT started!!! I'm bummed I didn't get the witch tbh but that's okay the real witch better not wuss out. Yeah that was my most wanted role too :/ The scumteam doesn't truly win if they win without using the power. | ||
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On August 18 2014 07:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a red check on Xatalos. You mean red read? | ||
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On August 18 2014 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: i got 2 scum already. Me and? | ||
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On August 18 2014 08:31 GlowingBear wrote: He may not be the shitty witch, but I don't like that he started doing jokes about roles night0. Sounds like mafia trying to talk about blue roles and making it easier to the shitty witch to use his power. Hm. I guess it would be best to be as silent as possible about our roles until N0 is over. Dunno what would be the point of that check thingy. Possibly scum-motivated, or just bored. | ||
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On August 18 2014 08:45 GlowingBear wrote: Rayn could be town trying to take a bullet, but that's dumb, and Rayn is a good player. Being bored isn't an excuse. You gotta admit it is at least suspicious. I think the purpose of that stunt would be rather to survive than to take a bullet as town. What Cop would joke about checks during N0? Or then he did that exactly because of that (WIFOM WIFOM). Anyways, it could be just to mess up with the scumteam. I did something similar in a N0 game earlier as town. So I don't really see it as exactly "suspicious", more like potentially scum-motivated, maybe without any real motivation or town-motivated in a convoluted way? | ||
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On August 18 2014 08:48 IAmRobik wrote: Apparently I'm oting with mafia oting? | ||
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Hm. I doubt anyone would be stupid enough to do something like reveal that they're the Cop because of that? I hope at least. | ||
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On August 18 2014 15:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well Xatalos didn't say he thinks i am mafia but his posting implies talking about roles is dumb (which it is) and then he does nothing but that. Not sure what you mean here since I was basically just talking to GB about your alignment. How should that help Mafia? Well, maybe the fact that I talked about you potentially being a real Cop, but that was just WIFOM more than anything, again pretty unhelpful for Mafia. | ||
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On August 18 2014 18:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: So how did saying "rayn is either the cop or WIFOMing" help anyone figuring out my alignment? That comment was pretty useless and I already said "nevermind" after I noticed that it wasn't actually in response to anything. I was tired. I don't see how it helps scum figure out blues either though. | ||
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On August 18 2014 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am pretty sure yamato is not scum. How come? | ||
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On August 18 2014 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: He is clearly thinking something. Yes that's how i read yamato. LOL Well, we'll see once we get a bit more out of him on D1. | ||
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On August 18 2014 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: oh yeah poofer has posted a lot but i don't remember anything he has said. Could be mafia too. Haha. This is actually a reasoning I used successfully once I think :D | ||
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Well, I guess the benefits of discussing reads now might outweigh the benefits of making the actions harder for scum. yamato: I'm thinking that he's scum based on the fact that there isn't a single constructive / helpful post from him yet. That's why I (correctly) read him as scum in the PYP game and why I (correctly) read him as town in the Vendetta Strada game (I mean in that game he actually did post helpful stuff...) - if this continues during D1 I think he's definitely scum Tehpoofter - I don't really like him either. His posts are mostly one-liners that don't really push the game forward in any way and he has many wishy-washy reads. Damdred - a couple of pretty weird posts, potential scum I guess rayn - Probably town, at least a lot more helpful than in Neat & Tidy Oats - I don't really remember how to read him atm, wanting to see more from him GB - leaning town, it felt easy to discuss with him earlier rest - no idea atm | ||
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And you do have a lot of reasonable reads already. That's just how I read you.Could you explain more about your yamato read? Because I think he played almost exactly like this as scum before. | ||
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On August 18 2014 20:08 Damdred wrote: Why would you give yamato a town read pass right now? You being silly now xat. Because I'm not entirely confident that this is how he plays as scum, and rayn was very confident that he's town this game. At least I'll need to see more from him for now. | ||
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On August 18 2014 20:44 Damdred wrote: I wasn't constantly pushing stuff in Neat & Tidy at first it wasn't till almost halfway through the day that I even got my first read out. I think you are pretty dumb for giving yamato a free pass at this early junction into day one he hasn't posted anything useful, I was hoping he would and I could town lean on him but he hasn't. Xat feels like he is just trying to buddy people and go for a mislynch. If Yamato doesn't post more hes probably going to be mafia and I still really like oats "Pushing stuff" doesn't strictly mean pushing scumreads. You were actively pushing the thread forward and strongly influencing the discussion (for example questioning me about my early posts). Here... you've just kind of given some bland opinions that are more like neutral descriptions of events rather than reads. I still don't like yamato too much but I wouldn't want to lynch him right now either considering that rayn's last words were to townread him (and he's apparently more experienced with yamato than I am). If yamato continues to lurk, the situation may change. It's not like rayn is always right | ||
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On August 18 2014 20:44 Damdred wrote: Xat feels like he is just trying to buddy people and go for a mislynch. On August 18 2014 21:19 Damdred wrote: Its more dumb than scummy at this point, and i'm probably not its early for me yet. So is it scummy or towny? :/ | ||
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Oh yeah, yamato, now would be a good time right? | ||
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On August 18 2014 23:04 IAmRobik wrote: Rayns an idiot. As if mafia doesn't have enough good reason to kill him, he went and made it impossible for them not to. Why didn't he just shut the fuck up That would be suspicious on its own too (obviously avoiding NK) and now he at least blessed us with his reads | ||
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On August 18 2014 08:48 IAmRobik wrote: Apparently I'm oting with mafia Btw what did this mean Robik? And do you have anything to say about who could be scum? | ||
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On August 18 2014 23:03 Damdred wrote: Town Xatalos posts a lot and posts whatever hes thinking whenever in my experience with him. His filter size shows if hes being towny. And what i've noticed hes been pretty open about his reads and opinions isn't scared to be wrong and always tries to explain his thought process. And generally its always a bad idea to lynch into the people with the biggest filters day one normally they aren't mafia, if his play tapers off and he starts to lurk i'll rethink it but i don't think hes a good lynch for day one at all. And Xat it did feel like you were just sheeping what Ray was saying at first but looking back over the thread I thought it was pretty consitant with what you been saying. So it was probably more of a reaction to being called mafia at this point, so yea i'm pretty town on you right now. I like your read on me but I'd be even more interested to hear about who would you want to lynch instead? Because I basically agreed with rayn about you/Tehpoofter not looking very good during N0 and looking at Tehpoofter's latest towngame, it's not very different from his play so far. | ||
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On August 18 2014 23:19 IAmRobik wrote: That means that I had a scum read on rayn to start the game and I voted him then I scumread someone who was voting for rayn. I forget who I was. Glowingbear maybe? Oh, you meant "voting". Could you explain your reads though? Because it's a bit hard to follow your thought process. | ||
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On August 18 2014 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote: WOAH FILTERS IN OP. BASED PLAMMER!. Whats up with geript, he hasnt posted at all this game. | ||
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Why didn't you like GB's posts? I don't think it was unreasonable to think that rayn's posts could have been scum-motivated. Obviously it was just WIFOM like I thought it might have been, but I can see where GB was coming from. | ||
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On August 19 2014 00:29 IAmRobik wrote: I don't remember which post it was. Will look back and find it when I get home, but I'm certain you'll think I'm stupid and that it is insignificant. I haven't even called you stupid or scum once so no need to be defeatist. Just focus on explaining yourself because your thought process hasn't been all that clear. | ||
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On August 19 2014 00:35 IAmRobik wrote: I didn't like this line. He's seeking validation which is scummy. Hmmmm.... I guess it could be, combined with him dropping the issue after I wasn't too thrilled with the idea... | ||
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On August 18 2014 12:41 GlowingBear wrote: I didn't said it was a game I was in, I said it was a game HE was in. I think I posted it on one post-game or on an obs qt. Too early to tell. I'd still stick my vote on Rayn although I really don't like you picking on such futile reasons. Maybe you're scum. Are you? This seems a bit weird if GlowingBear was scum. Why use the whole N0 bringing suspicion against rayn if he was going to be the NK anyway? (and I take back that he dropped the rayn issue, I just got the impression from the post where he said something like "I tried bringing out stuff on rayn but everyone dropped it" earlier on N0) | ||
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On August 19 2014 00:45 IAmRobik wrote: I'm not defeatist. My thought process is not easily followed. I thought the point against glowingbear was going to be less clear to everyone, but having found the post I didn't like, I was easily able to explain myself. You clearly have never played with me before. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen you play? Good that you found your reason though. | ||
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On August 19 2014 00:46 IAmRobik wrote: Oh, and you have 0 thought process. So like. You should probably fix that Haha I think I've been pretty transparent... | ||
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On the other hand, I don't like GB's latest readpost where he paints 2 players as scummy for things that aren't actually scummy (in my opinion at least). And the way he goes about it... Saying that both would be fine lynches for today with little basis, if any in reality. Just feels like how scum would set themselves up to vote for either player later on as necessary without much further effort. About Oats, I don't really know how to read him, I just got a slight uncomfortable feeling about the fact that apparently he (soft)defended Damdred during the night and then immediately jumped on Damdred after rayn and me expressed interest in the lynch, without really any particular reason I think. | ||
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On August 18 2014 17:26 Oatsmaster wrote: That makes no sense rayn lol. nah its just a really roundabout way of saying that gb is null. Does this really look like Oats agreeing with rayn? | ||
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On August 19 2014 03:37 Damdred wrote: @Xata, it seems to me that Oat was agreeing with ray soon as ray explained himself, though could be mafia just sheeping but I still feel kinda towny about oats I thought he was being sarcastic with those later comments... Whatever, let's just wait for Oats himself to explain that. | ||
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Win Rate as Town: 10/12 = 83.3% Win Rate as Scum: 1/3 = 33.3% Now I see | ||
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On August 19 2014 04:13 Damdred wrote: Besides Xat talking up his mafia game and how good it is O_o.... What do you think of yamato right now Xatalos? I've kind of liked his recent posts. I think there's a very good chance that he's town this game. As scum he's more dispirited and doesn't really put in any effort in terms of reads / engaging with the thread. | ||
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On August 19 2014 05:13 geript wrote: ##unvote ##vote glowybear Damdref might actually be town and i'm townreading a scum in robik/oats/yam. Poof hasn't posted at the right times either; he's pretty much a lock for scum too. Don't care which of poof/gb we lynch first. peace The only thing holding me back about Tehpoofter is how similar his last towngame looked to this game. Did you look? In any case, objectively looking it doesn't look very good. | ||
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On August 19 2014 05:18 Xatalos wrote: The only thing holding me back about Tehpoofter is how similar his last towngame looked to this game. Did you look? In any case, objectively looking *he doesn't look very good. Fixed | ||
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On August 19 2014 05:24 geript wrote: Holy shit I hat charter. When > what re: banks. I didn't understand anything you just said. | ||
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Why do you think that there has to be scum among Robik/yamato/Oats? The remaining players are too towny? | ||
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Someone said that Oats is really awful as scum... I don't really see it? I still have Oats in the leaning town category, I just fail to see how there's such a huge difference between his town/scumplay? | ||
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On August 19 2014 14:16 IAmRobik wrote: 1) I was referring to you not knowing that Geript has called me town 3 times and you're asking him what he thinks of me 2) Oats is obviously town if you don't know that, then you have never played with him. 3) I never called yamato town 4) The Xatalos read is whatever. He's blah in my eyes -- I even mentioned the fact that it doesn't seem like he's actually doing all too much this game except asking random questions and recapping what's occurred instead of giving his own points of view. Nevertheless, I find that mafia is rarely in the top posters of a game. The only exception being TL Order, in which Holy and I were two of the top posters. Nevertheless that's rare, and I was only up there because I was hydra'd and mocsta would post when I didn't know what to say. Well yeah, I haven't been that actively pushing my views yet. You'll get to see that more once my reads are a bit stronger and/or the situation demands it (closer to deadline etc.). Btw the deadline is in like 10 hours? I think the gun should be used soon enough to aid with the lynch decision. | ||
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On August 19 2014 07:26 Tehpoofter wrote: I'm about to go play disc golf. I'll toss out general bang marry kills atm. Marry: Xatanos - He went and looked up games and gave more than a shit and a half about the game you can be my one and only. Bang: Oats - his n0 was really good and early day 1 as well. I've been foolde by his scum game before so I've only got him as bang. Yamato - He needs to input more but I think that robik might have spewed him as town and he also seems to care at least a bit about the game so that makes him more townie in my eyes. Kill: - Geript: His catchup post doesn't feel like old geript to me no conviction just like scumpile scumpile type things weird that he asked robik if he was right. Robik - I feel his tone is super bad feels like mafia robik he also would be a bitch and kill rayn n0 cause he thinks rayn can read him well. I will say this I await his return to a computer where he can type out his shit properly see if that makes a difference. Damdred GB I am very unsure on they could easily fall into my kill pile. Neither has done enough to impress me. LOL. This post made me laugh, and the townreads aren't that bad. The "kill list" though... seems to be mostly based on gut feelings and not on really anything solid. Especially the geript read - first geript has "no conviction" but still he's giving reads left and right...? Plus I fail to see anything scummy about him asking Robik how right he is. I think it was more to get a read on Robik rather than to validate his own reads. Could you elaborate on your scumreads Tehpoofter? | ||
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On August 19 2014 23:29 geript wrote: ??? Bad at math? Re the poofter read. If there were a way to tell you without telling Banks I would. But that took a bunch of time to cross reference things and it's not going to go to waste so easily. 1+2=3? And it's not like we'll have to catch the whole team today. That was just some rough estimation. I can understand your stance, it's just that I generally prefer to win the current game over gaining an edge over time. But since I think you're town and I think your reads are good otherwise, I guess I can somewhat trust in your heuristic for the time being. | ||
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On August 19 2014 23:34 geript wrote: Xat's right. Like 9 hours to go and it's like 1-1-1 or something. No lynch is not an option here. I'll consolidate on any of Dandruff, poofter or Giggles (but either of the latter is preferable). Get your shit together people. It's plurality lynch though so consolidation isn't as crucial. In fact it might be better to have 2 competing wagons, like GB/Tehpoofter. That would provide more info. At the moment I'm leaning slightly more on GB since Tehpoofter feels so similar to his last towngame (even that marry/bang post is pretty identical to that game haha - although maybe he posted that since I was looking at his earlier game...). | ||
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On August 19 2014 23:43 GlowingBear wrote: I just think that lurking in the beginning of the game isn't good, it's easier to hop on later, so it's a mafia trait. Then your entrance wasn't good. I'll re read your filter to give a better read, as Robik said I didn't read you well enough. Poof is always asking questions to keep people giving information, he brings this marry bang kill list with some reads and then goes back into lurking. I'm on a phone, hard to link the game, but it was the last newbie game hosted by Haru. The only strong town read I have now is from Xatalos. He's been playing like he was playing on the last Titanic, where he was town, with a plus side that he is not dropping those "I think town is town and mafia is mafia" lines of him. He is giving genuine opinions about players and considering every possibility, and also putting a lot of effort. I doubt geript was away for the beginning of the game on purpose. Besides it's usually easier for scum to post at the start of the game rather than later on (harder to post about general stuff), so that point doesn't really hold in any case. | ||
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On August 20 2014 00:11 GlowingBear wrote: It matters because he did not give a solid read to his scumreads. He is only voting for me because my reads are "static/forced"? He doesn't like poofs n0, but I read no reasoning on his posts. He needs to show us his grounds on his scumreads. I can not explain myself when I don't understand why I'm being voted for exactly. I had a scumread on Robik and I'm pushingh on him. I specifically asked him to talk about you but he talked about four people but did not give a read on you. He town read oats because he is "obviously town" and all people that played with him should know that (?) I didn't like your readpost earlier today where you basically set yourself up for the day with a set of players that you'd like to lynch on very lacking, even flat out wrong reasons (I think I explained about that earlier). It didn't feel like a townie looking for scum, but rather scum dumping a lynchlist to prepare for the deadline. Listing those reads so early, with a lot of (made up?) reasoning, and not really evaluating your reads ever since, feels like how scum would approach the lynch. That and process of elimination (with several townreads the odds of you flipping scum increase). For Tehpoofter, it's just generally his apparent lack of direction / scumhunting and huge ratio of unnecessary posts that don't help the game in any way. And process of elimination. Robik I think is town. I don't really know his meta, but the way he's been posting feels like he blends with the thread and expresses his thoughts as he thinks. It's generally hard for scum to just post stuff when anything could possibly give them away. | ||
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On August 20 2014 00:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Seriously nobody is looking into damdred as possible scum? ? ? Xata, what changed your mind? He may be scum, I just don't like lynching him right now as much as before. He reacted to pressure by posting a lot of original content and participating in the discussion - granted, it was in large part about townreading me, so maybe I'm a bit biased. At least I think his thoughts regarding me were correct. What I don't like is how he just casually threw some suspicion on GB and didn't really pursue the issue himself. | ||
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On August 20 2014 00:32 Damdred wrote: Xata what do you think of Geript? Probably town, his reads have seemed pretty good and he's had a lot of original content in his posts. | ||
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In the sense that I know only myself 100% being town, anyone strongly townreading me (especially with good reasoning) gains a bit of townie points. | ||
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On August 20 2014 00:41 Damdred wrote: Are you serious right here? here are the posts where i pursued the issue with GB Why are you lying on me Xata? There was NOTHING casual about this I went after GB and didn't stop and GB eventually left the thread and came back today....why are you saying things like this I meant casual in the way how you originally just said something like "GB seems a bit weird, he should be watched" when asked for scumreads, not committing to anything. But you have actually posted about GB after that, that was incorrect of me to say. Maybe your posts have just been a bit "tame" in the sense that they're mostly questions or descriptions rather than expressing that much of your own opinion in them. | ||
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On August 20 2014 00:57 Damdred wrote: So which is it? Have i brought original content and participated or am i tame and not expressing much of my opinion? One way I could very highly see you voting for me another not so much. There seems a sort of disconnect between these posts non consistent perhaps. Also give me some actual reads Xata not G is town because his reads have been good. Give me something of substance Original content regarding me especially, not so much regarding GB. You did dispute GB's readpost though I think. I pretty much agree with geript's reads + he has explained the reasons behind his reads well enough. It doesn't make him 100% town but I don't really see any way we're lynching him today. | ||
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On August 20 2014 01:40 Damdred wrote: And I hate this vote, if the only reason poof gets lynched to you is because he hasn't done much by your standard...we would be lynching you today Xata, you have an insanely long filter but I can't remember a ton of what you did and most of your reads have been one sentence or longer so please do more stuff cause i'm getting suspicious of you right now You can't really compare me and Tehpoofter. Most of Tehpoofter's filter is posts like "your usefulness is unbound" or "that's such a contribution", absolutely useless one-liners that may even affect the town atmosphere negatively. I've went through his filter before and I still can't think of anything he's done for town from the top of my head, even if he has one of the longer filters. I'll have to look through it again, but nothing really comes to mind when I think about him. Oh, there's the marry/bang post, but it lacked reads on some players and the scumreads were pretty much baseless. Sorry Tehpoofter, I know you wanted to marry me :/ Btw I don't really feel bad about the way the wagon is going. I can easily see all of the current voters being town so it's not like it's going too easily. | ||
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On August 20 2014 02:36 geript wrote: This is probably the most damning thing though. I'm going to go back and reread him more carefully though. I think he gave a somewhat plausible explanation to this though. Something about yamato lurking for a while by then so I shouldn't townread him so easily. Still it's weird to focus on something like that when he didn't even scumread yamato. | ||
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On August 20 2014 04:32 Damdred wrote: This is the dumbest thing in this thread what if they are town and we mislynch? Don't push us to the point of no return day 2 I find it pretty hard to believe that both Tehpoofter and GB are town. | ||
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On August 18 2014 23:03 Damdred wrote: Town Xatalos posts a lot and posts whatever hes thinking whenever in my experience with him. His filter size shows if hes being towny. And what i've noticed hes been pretty open about his reads and opinions isn't scared to be wrong and always tries to explain his thought process. And generally its always a bad idea to lynch into the people with the biggest filters day one normally they aren't mafia, if his play tapers off and he starts to lurk i'll rethink it but i don't think hes a good lynch for day one at all. And Xat it did feel like you were just sheeping what Ray was saying at first but looking back over the thread I thought it was pretty consitant with what you been saying. So it was probably more of a reaction to being called mafia at this point, so yea i'm pretty town on you right now. To this: On August 20 2014 05:11 Damdred wrote: i'm leaning mafia on Xat now because he has this huge filter that is completely useless almost and fluff every read he gives is a one sentence shot thats mostly "Oh I think hes town" well thats great. | ||
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On August 20 2014 05:15 Tehpoofter wrote: ##Vote Geript I forgot to do this last night before I went to bed. He is the one who wasn't around to use the shitty witch power and I don't think it was used or we would have seen 2 kills or something I imagine. Palmar's vote counts suck cause they don't have time until EoD. :/ This is the worst reason for a vote I've seen in a while. | ||
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1) Usually anyone in the scumteam can order the abilities as needed 2) That's far from the only reason for the ability not being used | ||
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On August 20 2014 05:39 Tehpoofter wrote: Who here wouldn't use the power. I know I would Rob for fuck sure would have. I feel like GB/Damdred would have. Oats the only reason he wouldnt is because he was getting the universal town read. Yamato I feel also would Yolo. Maybe I'm making too much out of nothing but that power is the ONLY Reason I joined this game because it was awesome and really mad for a different game and whoever had it didn't use it I don't think which makes me want to lynch them EVEN MORE than any of the other mafia. Like if mafia just gives up their witch I'm down cause that was a giant waste not to. I think most would use it, but it's not very convincing if that's your reason for geript being scum. Like that's a reason that would be extremely easy to think of as scum. | ||
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On August 20 2014 05:50 Tehpoofter wrote: Its not my only reason its just what secures it for me. I stated in my first post on him the fact he didn't have hardly any meta in his first post about his reads and his only meta was on me and really really afterthought ish to me seemed scummy. I would never vote someone entirely off wifom thats just silly. I'm just adding that part in for style points if he does flip witch. Why is it so scummy not using meta in his first post? | ||
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On August 20 2014 05:57 Tehpoofter wrote: I don't care why you don't think I'm scum the better question is since you now realize I'm town who is mafia? Haha, I didn't "realize your town" I just think you're pretty good at acting with your Shitty Witch stuff if you're scum (although it's not really *that* hard a topic to fake) or it's actually somehow possible that you could be town. I can't think of a better lynch though, definitely not geript. | ||
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On August 20 2014 06:03 IAmRobik wrote: I think I might have been wrong on xata. Like he's really not doing anything. He seems to just be playing this Switzerland role and it's irking me. Should I be 100% ignoring Tehpoofter then? It's not like his arguments are convincing, I just think there could be something genuine about his Shitty Witch obsession. | ||
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On August 20 2014 06:09 IAmRobik wrote: You're playing this awkward pacifist role between banks and geript and it's silly. You have 7 town at this point which means you're mafia That's some messed up logic 1) I never said Tehpoofter was town, just not as scummy as before since he bothered to bring his Shitty Witch arguments to the table 2) Even if I thought Tehpoofter was town, it wouldn't mean I'm scum since not having 3 scumreads at all times hardly makes you scum | ||
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On August 20 2014 06:16 Damdred wrote: I told you earlier xat your just posting fluff at this point and all in your filter and you are trying to pacify wjoever pressures you and you still aren't doing shit! why would i think your town at this point What you've done lately: 1) Defended Tehpoofter without giving a read on him 2) Switched completely from clearly town to clearly scum on me for no real reason (earlier my filter was full of honest thoughts, now it's full of fluff) 3) Proceeded to vaguely discredit me (being useless, posting fluff etc. even though I've posted reads continuously) Is this coming from town? | ||
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On August 20 2014 06:44 IAmRobik wrote: That's all xata is doing!!!!!hes just asking questions and not drawing any conclusions from them Isn't it a conclusion enough that it's unlikely town Tehpoofter couldn't gather over 4 votes? | ||
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On August 20 2014 06:48 Damdred wrote: Ehhh you forgot to add me trashing gb saying yamato probably scummy for long periods of time. probably oatss but robs stuff got better after i yelled at him. How did he get better? By starting to yell that I'm doing nothing too? | ||
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On August 20 2014 06:49 IAmRobik wrote: You think that's more disconcerting than 7 people calling GB scummy and him not having votes. He had pressure. Talked. Pressure subsided a bit and he peaced the fuck out Which 7 players are calling him scummy? At least I don't think Oats has even talked about him and Damdred defended him just a bit earlier. And a few pages ago I think you were saying that GB could be town? | ||
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On August 20 2014 00:52 IAmRobik wrote: Maybe I'm wrong about gb. He seems really animated and convinced that what he saying is correct | ||
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Scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/438132-tl-mafia-lxiv-a-game-of-intrigue?user=Xatalos | ||
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On August 20 2014 07:06 Damdred wrote: Xata just thinks we won't lynch into the biggest game filter ^ | ||
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On August 20 2014 07:15 Damdred wrote: Explaining your own meta feels scummy to me titanic is different from here you fought lots their and tried to find scum but not here I've been trying to find scum, you've been trying to discredit the most active/towny posters (although you switched to buddying Robik when he started questioning me). How did you come all the way from being the one to townread me the strongest to the one scumreading me the strongest? It's pretty mind-boggling. And all based on the same meta / posting style too. | ||
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On August 20 2014 07:23 Tehpoofter wrote: Were we scum together at some point? Cause I actually feel like I remember that. It's possible but nothing really comes to mind right now. | ||
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On August 20 2014 07:31 geript wrote: I jut wok up. Did anything happen? Tehpoofter shouted that he's town a lot, Robik tried to study my meta and Damdred continued discrediting me. | ||
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On August 20 2014 07:41 IAmRobik wrote: So poofter, you're wrong. This is like 100% his scum meta and not his town meta. You're out of your fucking mind if you think otherwise. You're very wrong. In any case, convince me to lynch GB instead of Tehpoofter. I'm kind of 50/50 right now. | ||
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On August 20 2014 07:45 Damdred wrote: Lets kill xata id be all over it right now we have 15 roughly ... | ||
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On August 20 2014 07:45 IAmRobik wrote: Xata, you might as well claim if you're blue cause you've been softing it so hard WTF are you bluehunting 15min to the lynching? | ||
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On August 20 2014 07:50 IAmRobik wrote: ##vote: xatalos Why are you trying to lynch the most active poster, who you even think is blue, on D1 instead of your scumreads? | ||
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On August 21 2014 07:32 geript wrote: I don't have it. It's possible that the smith got RB'd or gave it to Robik. So the right play then is stack on Damndred for plurality. #vote Damdred Oh yeah I guess that's possible. Somehow I didn't think that the RB would work on the Gunsmith. And there's Robik too.... | ||
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1) town has the gun 2) unless the bullet hits scum today, we lose | ||
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On August 21 2014 07:33 Xatalos wrote: Oh yeah I guess that's possible. Somehow I didn't think that the RB would work on the Gunsmith. And there's Robik too.... Oh wait what am I even thinking. If the gun was given to Robik, we would lose instantly. If the Gunsmith was RB'd, we would also lose instantly. So geript are you the Gunsmith? You have to be if you're town. | ||
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6 players left, 3 town + 3 scum The game ends in a situation where it's just a vote race (Palmar confirmed this) Unless town has the gun, there's zero possibility of winning the game for town and the game would end -> The remaining town are me (Veteran), Gunsmith + gun holder -> Damdred is a VT without a gun, he is 100% scum | ||
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On August 21 2014 07:43 geript wrote: No I'm VT. It's whoever's town between Yam/Oats/GB. Probably Oats/Yam. So you have to be scum too... Unless you can show me some kind of fault in the logic. Dunno why you would be voting for Damdred though. | ||
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On August 21 2014 07:28 geript wrote: I'm trying to think of the right strategy here. I think there's a few interesting options but I need to think a bit more. Although I think you could be just fakeclaiming gunless VT too.... | ||
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1) Town has the gun We have to A) shoot scum successfully OR B) let the gun expire and voterace 3 votes to a scum before they can 2) Nobody has the gun We have to voterace 3 votes to a scum before they can 3) Scum has the gun We can't win (unless they decide to shoot me for some unimaginable reason and then we'll have to voterace) | ||
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I think it has to be Damdred. | ||
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2. Well you were awkward N0... But it's true I'd like him to contribute more to why you're scum instead of him 3. It was maybe a slight exaggeration but I wouldn't call it lying, since you could interpret Tehpoofter's post that way (he said something like "I'm trying to avoid that scummy meta so you can't use that meta") 4. To be fair I urged him to claim | ||
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On August 21 2014 10:50 Damdred wrote: You wouldn't even listen Xatalos you wouldn't even look at what I pointed out about him you just said "lol hes town" even after poof flipped and he misvoted GB on purpose you didn't even consider you could be wrong no matter what i said. Do you see why you played this wrong atleast? Tbh it doesn't even matter since yamato isn't playing anyway (since quite some time ago I think). The only hope would have been ultimately for yamato to be scum. I already typed the geript vote after Oats' fishy vote and delayed roleclaim, but then I thought that it would be probably GG if you were town anyway so I just hoped for the best. | ||
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posting spree at the deadline, meant he was town. GB was certainly the better lynch since he hardly cared about the lynch at all. I still think Damdred wasting his vote on ME (of all people) at the deadline and basically causing the death of Tehpoofter was so.... anti-town that it was hard for me to read him as town even in the end. I guess it's ironic that this same situation repeated itself again (I think a similar town vs town situation occurred in Titanic between us?). Maybe it was an uphill battle from the beginning, with the perfect scum actions and all. There was still a chance of success with GB being very close to being lynched though. I did consider claiming at some point on D1, but I was universally townread (at least until the very last minutes) so I thought there was a good chance of 1) me being NK'd and 2) me being given the gun. Maybe even both haha. Unfortunately I kind of slipped that I was blue in the end (making it very dangerous to shoot me). That's what I thought Palmar meant by my "big mistake". Oh well, luckily enough yamato would have given me the gun anyway. (Fun fact: I really thought that yamato was scum at the very end of the game. Reason being that Palmar responded to my PM even though all 3 scum had been on Damdred for hours, meaning that the game was not yet "over". I guess Palmar just delayed the endgame post though. And sorry for ranting about the host PMs in thread btw, I should have been more precise with my questions too.) | ||
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(or at least was until I started playing super active as town) | ||
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"btw there is one quite clear scumtell from Xatalos that he always does as mafia and not so much as town. me and marv know it. <3" >.> | ||
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On August 21 2014 21:48 Damdred wrote: Also the push on you wasn't that crazy, i still stand behind your reads were really lacking this game and you can say I asked small questions which i did cause i wanted you more involved at that point than just posting one liners and your reasons for voteing poof were horrrrrribbbleeee and then you started soft claiming Well yeah I'll admit that scumhunting is the weakest part of my play. That's why my reads are generally pretty weak at the early stages of the game and slowly get better from there when I can see vote movements, deadline behaviour, night actions, roleclaims etc. I guess this game wasn't really my ideal game since there was so little to form reads with Like many players had only 1-3 pages of filter. | ||
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On August 21 2014 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: You had it all right at some point on D1. Then you did something and changed your mind. I never read geript as scum until the voterace situation though, but I had GB+Oats as scum at some point, that's true. Well, Oats was partly because of a misunderstanding, and when it got cleared up, I kind of forgot about Oats (still had him as potential scum but not as a priority). GB I felt was scummy throughout the game, but I think Robik said that his recent posts were a bit towny at some point and I kind of agreed, so I just consolidated on Tehpoofter (in hindsight I never really felt that Tehpoofter was scum, in fact the opposite at many points in time, so I shouldn't have voted him really.... but I thought geript was town and apparently he had this magical read on him damn I'm too easily swayed sometimes). | ||
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Unfortunately I wasn't confident enough in either read that they would last through the day (especially since geript was so super confident about Tehpoofter and I had geript as town). | ||
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