[W] Newbie LVIII - Disney Princess Mafia - Page 2

meatpudding

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August 28 2014 08:55 GMT

#450

Barakos

I'm interested in your interactions with Mihzaaa

On August 27 2014 06:01 Barakos wrote:
Mihzaaaa - i got a hard time reading him. I will have to look closer at his filter to make up my mind. Right now i get a feeling, that he could be town.

On August 27 2014 15:46 Barakos wrote:
MihZaaa:
I am still very unsure about you.

After he replies how do you feel?

On August 27 2014 22:28 MihZaaa wrote:
Barakos

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Don't mind explaining at all. When I was typing that abuses last few messages hadn't gotten through yet ( I didn't refresh the page before posting). He was my scummy read out of the ones that contributed and hadn't been responding for a while at that time. The other scum read was lilwade and he barely spoke. And all the rest were not present.

Does this give the information you were looking for? How are you leaning on Mihzaaa tonight?

On another note,

On August 27 2014 15:46 Barakos wrote:
meatpudding:
I disagree with your read on abuse, especially with calling this part:

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good analysis. This is a part I find especially scummy about abuse, since it shows, he hasn't read superbias post completely or is intentionally disregarding superbias change of mind on jenny just to make a point against one of the more towny people.
Would you mind, rereading superbias post with a special filter on his tells on jenny and tell me, if you still think abuses post is good analysis?

After I answered this for you, you haven't followed up on anything that I asked. Could you update your thoughts on me and abuse?

On August 27 2014 15:46 Barakos wrote:
gobbledydook:
I didn't like you, coming in the thread and 15 lines of content later you claim to have discovered a scumduo. While I agree with you on abuse having some very suspicious posts, I dislike that you completely discard the fact, that it was his posts that got the thread going in the end.
Would you care to bring forward some more points that back up your vote and make me believe that you actually read the whole thread and not just some posts that led you to believe, abuse is scum?

I like this. You're giving Dook a chance to back up his wild statements which is fair.

But then

On August 28 2014 01:16 Barakos wrote:

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So you are trying to scare people away from voting to lynch you by saying "Don't vote for me, cause if you do, everybody will know I am a princess, which makes you scum?"

Your overall appearance here in this thread looks pretty bad up until now. You hop in, you post some stuff, put a vote down, shortly afterwards take back everything you said, don't answer any question directed at you and on top of it all, you also explain that we shouldn't expect any more out of you, since this you are not a high volume poster and just randomly hop in and out of threads?
Where is your effort to solve this game? I can't see it and the way you put it, you make it look like you are also not very interested in putting any effort into it.

##vote gobbledydook

Ok, I can't really blame anyone for voting Dook when he had no defence. I am leaning town on you but I would really like to see you follow through on your pushes.

Abuse

On August 27 2014 19:15 abuse wrote:
lilwade

My read on him is quite complex, but for the sake of simplicity I would like to call him null for now.
As for the other things, what he says and analyzes are to my liking, though they are not anything big in particular. I like his jump on gobbledygook.

I am a little concerned about one thing wade said, but will not bring it to light yet, as I need more info.

Either way - If the tables would suddenly turn in this thread, I would not be okay with lynching him today.

So you had a slight scumread on lilwade partway through the day. Are you able to tell us about the 'complexity' of your read here?

I like your responses to Superbia. You kept up with providing responses and I think made a good effort to keep him on track. I think your responses to Superbia are the main reason to keep you in my town pile.

On August 27 2014 19:41 abuse wrote:
gobbledydook

This is my biggest scumread .
Does not indulge in any chatter at all. Does not give any input, until he just appears to instantly vote.

This is a slight worry, but you did give reasoning behind it so we are able to read your logic.

I'm so sorry abuse. You're just too mysterious and after everything that's happened I can't go through with our proposed marriage. We can still bang though.

Breshke

Ok your first list of reads was missing some names but there were some lurkers at the time so I'm ok with that.

On August 28 2014 08:06 Breshke wrote:
lilwade
I have liked all of lilwades posts. I agreed with most of his reads in post 109. I also liked his reactions to dooks first few posts and the fact that he didn't push too aggressively when he misread the one with stuffed up quotes. Although why when talking about day 1 lynches do you not suggest the person you are currently voting for? Is this because you don't think they would get the required votes?

On August 28 2014 08:10 lilwade wrote:

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You can fuck right off with this post.

My top 3 scum are MihZaaa, Dreamweaver and Gobbledick with his last post.

This interaction between you and lilwade caught my attention. You say you agree with his reads, can you please help me understand why lilwade is in your town circle?

Then you go from

On August 27 2014 11:42 Breshke wrote:
So hears some of my thoughts so far
MihZaaa
His first few posts made me feel uneasy as first he commented on how he thought jenny would change her play style as to avoid being killed during the night as town and then went on to say he likes being a town power role as it is easier to not get yourself lynched. To me this just feels like a bad mindset for the majority of towns people as survival isn’t what most of us should be worried about. I havn't actually been able to get any other reads from everything else he has said

On August 28 2014 08:14 Breshke wrote:
Ohh and i forgot this
Towncircle
abuse
lilwade
meatpudding

Scum
MihZaa
Gobbledydook

Everyone else not leaning enough either way for me yet

Why?

meatpudding

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August 28 2014 09:02 GMT

#451

SuperBias

Not sure what to make of you right now. You're tunnelling hard and I think you need to branch out a bit.

You back out on your thesis a bit after being pulled up on some points. The thing is you keep trying to justify it by saying those points are not important. Instead you should be trying to highlight the points that are important, and you've failed to do that. Please update and justify your reads.

On August 27 2014 22:19 Superbia wrote:

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I kind of like your first train on thought. However, there hadn't been that many analyses yet at this point in the game (this was the second one besides my big post) so I don't think you can fault him that much? It'll be interesting to see how meat aligns with abuse during the rest of the day/game, however.

I like that you are keeping an eye on how I am aligning with abuse. I feel safe giving you a town pass.

MihZaaa

Ok, you're keeping your eyes on me and abuse as well, that's good.

On August 27 2014 22:16 MihZaaa wrote:
It's so scummy that both of you are defending the other hard for things that aren't even that good reads/ town plays.
...
You guys are either both mafia or both town.

But, I didn't see you post an answer to this. Dodging questions looks scummy to me.

On August 27 2014 15:46 Barakos wrote:
MihZaaa:
I am still very unsure about you. Would you mind explaining the following:

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You complain about your scum-suspects not contributing enough yet you put abuse, one of the most vocal ones in this thread so far as most scummy?
I feel like you are contradicting yourself here. Especially since your post was right after two posts of abuse.

I don't think much of this not-very-in-depth analasys.

On August 27 2014 08:08 MihZaaa wrote:
Ill go to sleep now but before I go I'll leave some thoughts.

From least scummy to most.

Barakos
Superbia and JennyHell
Abuse

People who haven't contributed enough:
Lilwade
Meatpudding
Breshke
Gobbledydook and Daydreamarine

With lilwade contributing the most out of those 5.

Out of the people I have gotten reads on I would lynch abuse the most but he's been much more useful to the town than the lurkers so I can't be happy with lynching him.

I do think that the vote on abuse is still a little early and I'm not sure where I stand on Superbia already voting on 2 people in less than 24 hours.

Every possible setup included 2 mafia so I would have liked to have a general idea of 2 scummy people by now but the scarcity of contribution does not allow me to do that.

Makes another mention of lilwade as scum-read:

On August 27 2014 22:28 MihZaaa wrote:
Barakos

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And in the end you voted for Dook. I think things are not looking good for you heading into day 2.

meatpudding

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August 28 2014 09:05 GMT

#452

Daydreamarine
We can't win this fight without you young man!

JennyHell

On August 28 2014 02:21 JennyHell wrote:
meatplayer
You're being a bit different from last time we played together. It could have something to do with the fact that we actually didn't get to play that much last time with me dying and you being inactive.
that said, I've liked your reads so far, although I'm not sure about MihZaaaa, and I'd like to see what more you can give further in to the game.

Ok this looks good to me. I like your call on MihZaaa and I am starting to think something along those lines. I would like you to perhaps go into some detail. You said you have been flip-flopping on this so some pushing would be in order to sort things out.

All game you have been referring to me and lilwade from the previous game. This worries me a little bit. Ofc you can try to 'meta' some playstyles but I'm worried you might carry some reads over. I don't like that you have been referring to it as often as you have (I know you were asked about it).

On August 28 2014 04:57 JennyHell wrote:
MihZaaaa - I don't know how to read you. You're flip floppy and I get flip floppy on you. I don't like being flip floppy. I'm fine with you dying.

I'm interested in your thoughts on this as well as Breshke. Who is your top scum now?

After the wagon started you retracted on Dook and encouraged the scumhunt. The WIFOM is that he was going to be lynched anyway so mafia had everything to gain by looking innocent. Overall I'm giving you a bang as things pan out.

lilwade

lilwade has been a bit too quiet all game. Then here

On August 27 2014 12:09 lilwade wrote:

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On August 27 2014 11:26 gobbledydook wrote:
abuse

On August 27 2014 04:22 abuse wrote:
@ Suburbia,

Might want to read my stuff again, I didn't promise a read from the previous mafia game, I said I would read the first 2 days of that game aswell, to keep myself informed on what happened there.

I also did not mean to push any policies, along with all the "garbage". I just mentioned them.
Also - You keep saying I am asking for reads and give none in return - I actually did not ask any reads from anyone yet( as far as I remember) and I also fully understand that it is much too early to post any real reads.
There has been barely any development at all yet.

I also completely disagree on your rating.
Seems a little weird that you give minuses for some points (seriously? -0.5 because you think that warning you that I am vocal in my games and will push people who i find scummy - to be a preface for possibly scummy play), yet you comment on much of Jenny's stuff, along with "scummy reference, careful now!" but still give her no minuses.
Sounds like blind agreement to someone who is the most vocal at the moment, while at the moment Jenny really has not done anything yet that would classify as real town. Only neutral.

I feel like you rush way too much and do not read into stuff enough, while are trying to make the impression that you do. Which on the other half sounds like someone who would want to push a mislynch.

Though there are no real reads possible at the moment, I feel a townie vibe from the exact opposite people you do.
I feel that Barakos and Mihzaaa give townie vibes, because they give thought out posts and pose questions in a non attacking manner, unlike you. Jenny seems neutral, since most of the stuff she says is positive(read: happy'ish) yet does not really show anything much about her alignment at the moment. Though I will agree that she does not give any scum vibes yet.

So look at this post

1) He's being rather defensive. It's been like one day into the game and no one has voted yet though already he is trying so hard to deflect any attacks on him. If he were town, he would be actually trying to make reads and analyse and contribute, instead of spending 2 big posts on explaining himself and arguing on semantics and fairness. Which ties onto the second point:

2) His reads are vague, general and useless. It's the easiest thing to say in the world that 'someone is town because he posts a lot of good stuff' and that's basically all he said. It's so easy for a scum to say that and look like he's given reads. Meanwhile look at his scum reads - '404 ERROR NOT FOUND'.

##Vote: abuse

for being scum.

I dont like that you come out of the woodwork and hop on someone elses boat. Instead of letting people analzye your post, you just come out with push on someone who has been getting picked at almost more than anyone else in the game. You accusing someone of vague, general, and useless when you have provided a poor case imo.

your second post I didnt get quotes with that but what i did gather is this "Though there are no real reads possible at the moment," Why then are you voting for someone? What does that gain the town, i get you like to push people but a day 1 mislynch is not what we want in a 9 person game.

Posts a reply to Dook of all people. Maybe lilwade just jumps into the thread at the wrong time but seems to me he could have been lurking, waiting for a donkey post to form a wagon on.

Votes for MihZaaa without a good cause.

On August 28 2014 07:16 lilwade wrote:
MihZaaa

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Here you can see him flip flop around he claims his least town was "abuse" after the gobbledydook posts and yet he still comes in with the one liner post voting for gobbledydook. A person that does not have their own opinion is more detrimental to town than anything else. His filter kinda jumps around from person to person and doesnt really give scum insight.

##vote MihZaaa

The reasoning here I can't quite follow. Are you calling MihZaaa scummy? Or are you voting on policy? What you said here is vague. If you think MihZaaa should be lynched I would like to see a case built up over the next day.

Right after you flip flop on Dook as well.

On August 28 2014 08:11 lilwade wrote:

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k ##unvote

##vote: Gobblededook

On August 28 2014 07:35 lilwade wrote:
Right now I dont feel like either Gobbledydook or superbia are good day 1 lynches, Out of the 2 I would probably go with gobbledydook. Jenny do you think that these two are the right for the bandwagon???

Why are you sheeping Jen so hard? How do you know she's town?

In fact I have no info on your town circle at all.

Then,

On August 28 2014 09:24 lilwade wrote:
If we get momentum going for MihZaaa I will go for it

Still prepared to vote for MihZaaa, but no case. Would like to hear more about why you think he's scummy.

You are top scum for me at the moment.