EPT[T] Cell (Mini?) Mafia III - Page 18
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Amiko
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I do not disagree with the logic behind the ordering, but you ignore what (I think) is more important - that we are guaranteed to reach at least Day 3, but not Day 5. So let me ask you this - which groups do you think are likely to be the easiest to read? The hardest? | ||
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Amiko
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On August 28 2014 10:42 Holyflare wrote: Tambo's entrance is what i expect a bh entrance to be lol | ||
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Blazinghand
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On August 28 2014 10:40 Holyflare wrote: Like BH just flat out said he wants the people that can lead town last but doesn't even contemplate that they could be mafia? Only one person per group is mafia, so I don't see the problem. Even if Marv is mafia it's not like there's any chance he'd be lynched if his group went first ANYWAYS. The only way scum marv would get lynched is if his group went last and people had time to figure out his alignment. Look, In every game, scum always wants to shoot marv right away cause that's how dangeorus he is. if you really think that he shouldn't be in the very last group, that's your own prerogative, but I'm not convinced just based on "well, marv could be mafia", which is a statement that could be applied to anyone. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On August 28 2014 10:39 Holyflare wrote: Or that variant where we vote for the next group each night. That would have been cool Yeh actually that would have been cool. And the scum mechanic was kinda like our scumgame HF Woulda been fun to have the original setup  | ||
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Holyflare
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mtamburini
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Not really holyflare
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C for guaranteed 1 scum lynch (unless marv derps) while A and D goes first. B for more risks and E being the most risky group to lynch into. | ||
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Professor Apathy
Spain151 Posts
On August 28 2014 10:45 Holyflare wrote: But if marv is mafia he's pretty straightforward to read and would be an easy point for town which we might not ever reach because you'd be placing him last. Which is why making orders before everyone has spoken is silly. if we assume that you're confident in reading everyone within 24 hours yes, otherwise no. How can you be so confident on being able to figure everyone out within 24 hours to make it the basis of how you want the groups ordered instead of placing them the way BH and I want (except that BH has this one major flaw in his order which is group E). | ||
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Blazinghand
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On August 28 2014 10:43 Amiko wrote: @BH: I do not disagree with the logic behind the ordering, but you ignore what (I think) is more important - that we are guaranteed to reach at least Day 3, but not Day 5. So let me ask you this - which groups do you think are likely to be the easiest to read? The hardest? This is a valid point. I expect the smurf group to be hard to read regardless, whether it goes first or last. Honestly, given that we could potentially lose after the third lynch, which group goes 4th vs which group goes 5th is potentially irrelevant. The important thing is, I don't want me, marv, wos, or HF to be in the front 2 groups. I'd like all of us to be alive when we're tlaking about who to lynch out of the third group, because I think that having certain town organizers alive at the first potential LYLO is good. I would be surprised if group D or E improved iwth time and became more legible. They're liabilities regardless, and honestly, if we're gonna mislynch into those two groups and one other group, the order doesn't matter, except that if we put them first we lose a little faster. The ADVANTAGE of putting them first is that our strong players get to live longer, and either lead the town, or prove themselves town. A guy like me or marv, when playing scum, never gets caught D1 or D2. Even in the event a vet I'm tlaking about here is scum, it's still better to put them later because we'd never catch them unless we had time to hear them talk more. it's a good point though. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On August 28 2014 10:48 Not really holyflare wrote: Thats why we go DACBE. C for guaranteed 1 scum lynch (unless marv derps) while A and D goes first. B for more risks and E being the most risky group to lynch into. I haven't read the thread, because none of you worms are close enough to my level to merit my attention, and today is a lynch day. However, this statement intrigues me. Why do we have a guaranteed scum lynch in C? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Except you should add me to the never gets caught as scum pile too And HF | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On August 28 2014 10:48 Professor Apathy wrote: if we assume that you're confident in reading everyone within 24 hours yes, otherwise no. How can you be so confident on being able to figure everyone out within 24 hours to make it the basis of how you want the groups ordered instead of placing them the way BH and I want (except that BH has this one major flaw in his order which is group E). I am. You also only need to be most sure of the first group in the first 24h anyway. | ||
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Not really holyflare
Japan56 Posts
On August 28 2014 10:49 Blazinghand wrote: I haven't read the thread, because none of you worms are close enough to my level to merit my attention, and today is a lynch day. However, this statement intrigues me. Why do we have a guaranteed scum lynch in C? Kek uncced medic lynched Firstly, with both hf and wos at 4th, they are guaranteed to catch marv if he is scum - and theres 0 chance that both hf and wos are scum, so theres always 1 guy that can reliably call marv scum and get a lynch on him. However, if marv is town, the 50/50 in his group will become less so given how marv plays his town. I would say his group have the highest chance to catch scum and help prevent a 3 - 0 scum sweep. | ||
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mtamburini
Canada506 Posts
On August 28 2014 10:48 Not really holyflare wrote: Thats why we go DACBE. C for guaranteed 1 scum lynch (unless marv derps) while A and D goes first. B for more risks and E being the most risky group to lynch into. Why not make that group go first? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I LURVES IT | ||
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Holyflare
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
I feel like your ordering is strongly based on the idea that marv will lead lynches in a good way / scumhunt well. But, even under that approach isn't it beneficial to put Cell C before D5? That way at least there's some indication as to the authenticity of marv's reads. | ||
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