EPT- Deflecting something Marv said, bringing up an awkward example where he asks how strong Marv's townreads are compared to me super townreading Wave (which I explained was a joke in the string of posts where he initially read it)
- List posts after saying he wouldn't bring up weak list posts on D1 as town because he doesn't view it as necessary.
- Hypocritical in how he accuses other people of unsubstantiated reads when he does the same himself.
- In the start, talking mostly about things outside of the game (HF has touched on this plenty)
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On August 04 2014 23:36 HaruRH wrote: Problem is, what constitutes looking really townie? What heuristics do you use to judge? For example, the way you judge town is probably going to be different from pooft, who plays tons of video mafia, and different from me, who plays tons of game mafia (sc2/wc3). Also, what is really townie looking? To artanis, wos is his really townie guy despite many objections and scumreads on wos. Explain to me, marv. This is the post that felt really awkward. How is this important and all? It just feels like he wanted to add in something of substance, yet he hadn't even read the interactions between me and wos properly or he would've instantly found out. | ||
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On August 05 2014 23:11 HaruRH wrote: Wrong. Your arguments aren't correct too. 1) I did not ask how strong marv's townreads are. I am asking if his townreads will align with anyone, thus achieving his 'everyone playing so townie scum dies' part. 2) I promised list posts. I delivered. I won't bother with anymore of this weak argument. 3) No. Like I said (this will be the very last time im saying this), I don't scumread based on unsubstantiated reads. It is instead based on how much content they are willing to deliver through their different promises. A potential content giver who haven't give shit early d1 (this is expected) is null read by me. But not you guys who deny content from me. 4) seriously? 1) You asked Marv what a strong townread was when this bore no relevance to the question. It was a deflection. 2) You said you don't give weak list posts as town, then you proceeded to give weak list posts. It's a contradiction. 3) Are you seriously saying you let promises influence your decision? Mafia are the king of promises. Townies just deliver when they have the information. 4) Yes. | ||
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On August 05 2014 23:17 HaruRH wrote: 1) how did you interpret 'Problem is, what constitutes looking really townie? What heuristics do you use to judge?' As what a strong townread was? Deflection from? It bore relevance to how I attempt to read marv. 2) yes and no. I said I dont give reads d1. I did not say I dont give weak list posts. Quote where I said it IN CONTEXT to the previous post I am replying to. 3) Yes. If you decide to give jackshit, you're trying to lurk. 4) no. 1) It should be very obvious what he means with top town. The comment was completely irrelevant to the context, thus deflecting from the original topic. 2) See Marv 3) Promises are irrelevant to actually doing things. Also, my original point was that your reads are unsubstantiated. You haven't given a proper case with reasoning on why I'm scum other than a very vague "his filter is unreadable and he hasn't delivered content". I have given concrete reasons for why you're scum. 4) Yes. On August 05 2014 23:19 HaruRH wrote: So you're saying I must 100% throw them in scumreads? Not allowed to park them in null reads until I see anything fishy? You have 5 (!!) scumreads and you have barely interacted with them, and then you still think there are scumreads in your null reads. How is anyone meant to take your reads seriously? | ||
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2) Give some keywords at least to find it quicker. I have no idea what you mean. 3) You think anyone who doesn't promise content won't produce content? Are you like, being serious? I'm proving you wrong right now for one. Most people deliver content without promising it. | ||
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On August 05 2014 23:53 HaruRH wrote: Firstly, for someone who used meta reads on others early on, why do you leave a blank for scumreading wos? It is almost like you decided to not research into wos when earlier on, you mentioned that you did a ton of meta research. I didn't do it for WoS because I was just pouring out reads at the time. I felt producing content quickly was more important than doing deep research, and I was hoping to spark a response with someone that was more knowledgable about wos' meta as he's played a lot of games in the past. | ||
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On August 05 2014 23:55 HaruRH wrote: Secondly, why are you attempting to scumread me for posting list posts when you already knew I was going to do so? I don't back off promises. It's not saying you were going to do it; it's that you mentioned at first you don't make weak list posts as town, then proceed to make a weak list post. | ||
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On August 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote: itt artanis sheeps/buddies marv, gangbangs haru But I have different reasons for scumreading haru than marv does and voted him before he did. Marv showed a stronger inclination to lynch Vivax first. | ||
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On August 06 2014 00:00 justanothertownie wrote: But you didn't really push it before marv started to. Now that he is on it you suddenly start to question Haru. Actually, it was after Gobble that I did. | ||
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On August 06 2014 00:00 HaruRH wrote: Third, you explicitly mentioned how your opinions (at that time) followed popular opinion. Is that not something you considered when you raised the point that I was sheeping eden for no reason? I never raised you sheeping eden for no reason as a point for calling you scum. Only that it doesn't make sense in the context of scumreading 3 other people above me. | ||
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On August 06 2014 00:03 justanothertownie wrote: Which was basically at the same time? I had already indicated Haru was my top scumread, so it's not really relevant. | ||
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