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On August 05 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
It's a 100% legitimate heuristic that people that do shitty catch up post by post after saying they are around and reading/catching up hours before are mafia
Is this really what you're going on?
I have done this multiple times as town. Prome has done it as town. I can't give more examples because I can't remember past games anymore without searching.
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On August 05 2014 11:56 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 11:51 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 05 2014 11:46 Holyflare wrote:
Well it's unfortunate that ylu continue to lie to the thread by saying you didn't then I didn't I won't get lynched so you can just hang out and be wrong  See, the thing is I have way more faith that HF can get his target lynched than some other people here Poofter. Your BMK reads were leans, fine. What were they based on? Do you have any other reads? Is marv the lynch for today? Let's get something concrete plz HF can you comment re: Haru? For something people have been waiting for from me for so long, I'm kind of surprised that I have gotten absolutely nothing (though I suppose I shouldn't be---it's par for the course for me to put effort into something and have people ignore it).
I'm not done reading so I'm not going to update my BMK but I will when I get there.
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dw about my miracle townread of you poofter. im just that sexywhen it comes to reading you.
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No. You waited 3 hours after saying you were going to read only to end up commenting on useless shit about how marv put down a vote early. That's so mafia.
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On August 05 2014 11:58 kushm4sta wrote:
dw about my miracle townread of you poofter. im just that sexywhen it comes to reading you.
okay kushm3sta. I still wouldn't bang you yet.
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Also wave I'm too tunnelled on haru to really comment on it
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so would you like to kill or marry me then?
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if you marry me we will fuck at least once a week so keep that in mind
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On August 05 2014 11:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 11:37 goodkarma wrote:On August 05 2014 11:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 05 2014 11:24 goodkarma wrote:On August 05 2014 10:58 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 05 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:
WoS still have to see you act up on that sort of FoS you placed on GK early. How do you read him currently. I'm not sure how calling him null was a FoS, I just said some of his posting made me feel all wonky about him. I think I'm used to playing games with him when he's always under the gun so to see him posting in a different way now (though still spr srs) gives me pause. Ultimately he recently liked the same thing I did in regards to Haru's reaction to HF (though we've obviously come to different conclusions about it) though maybe GK you can go into a little more detail as to what about Haru's reaction you liked? I'd give GK slightly towny side of null for now---if there were a good way to pressure GK (that I wouldn't feel guilty about) to make him post similar to what I'm used to in many games I'd do it. Feel free to come at me as hard as you'd like. I won't ragequit I promise. Well the point being by saying this out loud and not having anything particularly useful to pressure you on, pressuring to get you to post in a way I'm more familiar with won't work. I don't post like I used to. I found people got ragey and mislynch-happy when I posted large paragraphs of logic. Besides, I haven't really seen you pressure your scumread(s) all that much, the people you should be pressuring. I haven't been around all that much. Also as far as scumreadS go, I only have the one right now, and I recently posted about him. Care to comment as it seems you and I have differing opinions?
You seem to have some grasp of why people read him as towny. The real question is if you think his response to the HF tunnel is fake or not. If fake then scum. If not he's town. My personal thoughts on Haru should be pretty clear from my filter.
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On August 05 2014 11:58 Holyflare wrote:
No. You waited 3 hours after saying you were going to read only to end up commenting on useless shit about how marv put down a vote early. That's so mafia.
I was gonna read then shit came up so i came back when i could and am reading now.
I think what I said about marv is odd and you have played with him enough to know he doesn't just normally day 1 instant vote someone. Like thats not obsolete thats something different from the norm. Something different from normal play could be mafia.
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On August 05 2014 11:57 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 11:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 05 2014 11:51 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 05 2014 11:46 Holyflare wrote:
Well it's unfortunate that ylu continue to lie to the thread by saying you didn't then I didn't I won't get lynched so you can just hang out and be wrong See, the thing is I have way more faith that HF can get his target lynched than some other people here Poofter. Your BMK reads were leans, fine. What were they based on? Do you have any other reads? Is marv the lynch for today? Let's get something concrete plz HF can you comment re: Haru? For something people have been waiting for from me for so long, I'm kind of surprised that I have gotten absolutely nothing (though I suppose I shouldn't be---it's par for the course for me to put effort into something and have people ignore it). I'm not done reading so I'm not going to update my BMK but I will when I get there.
Hurry up on catching up then, and stop shitposting until you do.
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On August 05 2014 12:01 kushm4sta wrote:
if you marry me we will fuck at least once a week so keep that in mind
I actually would say 3 times a week or gtfo. adn right now i can't decide what to do with you.
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On August 05 2014 11:57 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
It's a 100% legitimate heuristic that people that do shitty catch up post by post after saying they are around and reading/catching up hours before are mafia Is this really what you're going on? I have done this multiple times as town. Prome has done it as town. I can't give more examples because I can't remember past games anymore without searching.
Yes and when you do it as town you comment on useful stuff and draw conclusions from those posts and do it immediately when you are reading. Poofter waited 3 hours to then make his first comment on marv voting and I know from before when he was around that people say to read marv by seeing if he lynched mafia or not. He even references the game (order) where marv lynched mafia and it was said in that game.
So reallt ghis 3 hours wait into commenting on something useless is what makes him mafia
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On August 05 2014 12:00 Holyflare wrote:
Also wave I'm too tunnelled on haru to really comment on it
too tunneled on haru? My name is tehpoofter!!! at least use the correct name for me HF.
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On August 05 2014 12:04 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 11:58 Holyflare wrote:
No. You waited 3 hours after saying you were going to read only to end up commenting on useless shit about how marv put down a vote early. That's so mafia. I was gonna read then shit came up so i came back when i could and am reading now. I think what I said about marv is odd and you have played with him enough to know he doesn't just normally day 1 instant vote someone. Like thats not obsolete thats something different from the norm. Something different from normal play could be mafia.
Something different from normal play is only mafia if said person's more likely to do it as scum than town.
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Marv voting early is ridiculous. He has voted early plenty of times and it's most definitely a pressure vote because he says it is.
Which you'd know if you read the thread and then made conclusions instead of pretending to be contributing in real time post by post
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On August 05 2014 12:01 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 11:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 05 2014 11:37 goodkarma wrote:On August 05 2014 11:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 05 2014 11:24 goodkarma wrote:On August 05 2014 10:58 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 05 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:
WoS still have to see you act up on that sort of FoS you placed on GK early. How do you read him currently. I'm not sure how calling him null was a FoS, I just said some of his posting made me feel all wonky about him. I think I'm used to playing games with him when he's always under the gun so to see him posting in a different way now (though still spr srs) gives me pause. Ultimately he recently liked the same thing I did in regards to Haru's reaction to HF (though we've obviously come to different conclusions about it) though maybe GK you can go into a little more detail as to what about Haru's reaction you liked? I'd give GK slightly towny side of null for now---if there were a good way to pressure GK (that I wouldn't feel guilty about) to make him post similar to what I'm used to in many games I'd do it. Feel free to come at me as hard as you'd like. I won't ragequit I promise. Well the point being by saying this out loud and not having anything particularly useful to pressure you on, pressuring to get you to post in a way I'm more familiar with won't work. I don't post like I used to. I found people got ragey and mislynch-happy when I posted large paragraphs of logic. Besides, I haven't really seen you pressure your scumread(s) all that much, the people you should be pressuring. I haven't been around all that much. Also as far as scumreadS go, I only have the one right now, and I recently posted about him. Care to comment as it seems you and I have differing opinions? You seem to have some grasp of why people read him as towny. The real question is if you think his response to the HF tunnel is fake or not. If fake then scum. If not he's town. My personal thoughts on Haru should be pretty clear from my filter.
GK reads aren't (or shouldn't be) ever as simple as that. My inclination is to believe the response more likely comes from town, but then everything else Haru has said or done that looks scummy goes ignored. If cases could so easily be boiled down to one simple action then you could just as easily say that about everyone: "if so-and-so is lying about this they're scum, if not they're town." You don't know the truth so you have to sum up and take into account all that they have done and decide what is important and what isn't. Do you believe so strongly that what Haru said is not faked that you can ignore everything else?
And HF what I find Haru scummy for is different from what you find him scummy for, isn't it? Do you find it adds to or detracts from your tunnel? (And nothing Haru said or did detunneled you?)
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yeah but HF, I don't see the marv voting early argument as scummy, because it's so obviously going to be a lynchbait argument.
tooscummytobescum in a way.
therefore I think it's genuine.
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On August 05 2014 12:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 11:57 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 05 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
It's a 100% legitimate heuristic that people that do shitty catch up post by post after saying they are around and reading/catching up hours before are mafia Is this really what you're going on? I have done this multiple times as town. Prome has done it as town. I can't give more examples because I can't remember past games anymore without searching. Yes and when you do it as town you comment on useful stuff and draw conclusions from those posts and do it immediately when you are reading. Poofter waited 3 hours to then make his first comment on marv voting and I know from before when he was around that people say to read marv by seeing if he lynched mafia or not. He even references the game (order) where marv lynched mafia and it was said in that game. So reallt ghis 3 hours wait into commenting on something useless is what makes him mafia
Alright this makes more sense. Continuing on though, based on things happening earlier in this game, wouldn't a scummer be more likely to prepare something and try to look useful when coming back rather than posting shit? What does Poofter have to gain as scum by doing what he is doing? Or do you believe Poofter is truly just playing shit scum in which case I don't really have anything more to say 
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On August 05 2014 12:07 Holyflare wrote:
Marv voting early is ridiculous. He has voted early plenty of times and it's most definitely a pressure vote because he says it is.
Which you'd know if you read the thread and then made conclusions instead of pretending to be contributing in real time post by post
I admitted I haven't read the thread the whole way through I think marv is like impossible to read i just end up praying hes townie so when he doesn something different I'm going to point it out. I didn't even say it was scummy just that it was odd those are too very different things.
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