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On August 05 2014 00:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Jat, why is it that you hate my entrance into this game? You hated my entrance into game-that-shall-not-be-named as well.
I did not hate your entrance then. I thought you were overcompensating (you may have been, you may haven't been) which I initially read scummy but as the game went on I changed my mind about that -> thought you were town. Now you act differently.
And we really should not keep talking about ongoing games.
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On August 05 2014 00:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax, correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds to me like you're making an unflipped association between GK and WoS which seems to be the foundation to your case.
I wouldn't really call it a case yet, I prefer to call it observations the mentioned people have to react to.
I realize that it could come from a town perspective to prefer one guy over the other, maybe cause he got tired and stopped playing when he could talk to wave, or that he got tunneled in the process of talking to Haru, but that kind of doesn't apply in my logic where hf and gk in my opinion excessively rode on the -1 + 1, since I experienced Haru using those numbers that make sense to nobody else to describe his reads as town previously.
It seems to me like it was nitpicking, and something that could be picked up by anyone if he so wanted, and doesn't prove a thing to me regarding Haru except that his reasoning there has holes, but not necessarily scummy holes.
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but that kind of doesn't apply in my logic where hf and gk in my opinion excessively rode on the -1 + 1
I made 1 post on the -1+1 and that wasn't even a reason to scum read him? my other post that you shut down was to do with him addressing a meta read with generalisations that did not apply to the actual meta read I made. The rest of my scum read is entirely to do with his contentless filter. Why are you making it sound like we're ott attacking him?
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On August 05 2014 01:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +but that kind of doesn't apply in my logic where hf and gk in my opinion excessively rode on the -1 + 1 I made 1 post on the -1+1 and that wasn't even a reason to scum read him? my other post that you shut down was to do with him addressing a meta read with generalisations that did not apply to the actual meta read I made. The rest of my scum read is entirely to do with his contentless filter. Why are you making it sound like we're ott attacking him?
You automatically expect him to accept your argument and if he gives you his own interpretation, which he later thinks about again, he's supposed to be scummy for it.
Since your interpretation of Wave's entrance was in my opinion way too simple, like kush agreed with, then Haru doesn't really owe you an answer for why he wants to nullread Wave cause he doesn't believe your argument for *reasons*.
Plus, good luck showing that his filter has no content. It's a statement anyone can make but nobody can prove, good luck posting the nothingness you see.
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I'm actually more interested into rolling out the WoS issue again.
He called you a straight out liar, although probably town, and says he could find such a thing in 80 % of his games.
You confidently said he wouldn't be able to.
What I miss here is a reaction to his post, trying to further push the issue. Are you really satisfied with you still being unsure about Wave when he gets mad at you and simply puts his word against yours? Did you lie or is he lying? Did he do it as town earlier or didn't he?
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How the hell do you 2 manage to blow so little things way out of proportion like that AGAIN. Makes my head hurt.
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On August 05 2014 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
How the hell do you 2 manage to blow so little things way out of proportion like that AGAIN. Makes my head hurt.
just sit there and watch it happen.
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On August 05 2014 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
How the hell do you 2 manage to blow so little things way out of proportion like that AGAIN. Makes my head hurt.
This.
I'm completely uninterested in the fight between Vivax and Holyflare. I feel like it's meaningless.
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It feels like some ancient philosophers are battling it out right now.
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On August 05 2014 01:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
How the hell do you 2 manage to blow so little things way out of proportion like that AGAIN. Makes my head hurt. This. I'm completely uninterested in the fight between Vivax and Holyflare. I feel like it's meaningless.
only if you think they're both town
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On August 05 2014 01:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 01:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 05 2014 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
How the hell do you 2 manage to blow so little things way out of proportion like that AGAIN. Makes my head hurt. This. I'm completely uninterested in the fight between Vivax and Holyflare. I feel like it's meaningless. only if you think they're both town
I don't feel like there's anything alignment indicative going on there.
Do you know why?
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On August 05 2014 01:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 01:26 marvellosity wrote:On August 05 2014 01:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 05 2014 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
How the hell do you 2 manage to blow so little things way out of proportion like that AGAIN. Makes my head hurt. This. I'm completely uninterested in the fight between Vivax and Holyflare. I feel like it's meaningless. only if you think they're both town I don't feel like there's anything alignment indicative going on there. Do you know why?
well, I'm kinda waiting to see what happens.
 and all that.
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Here, you plebs:
I find Wave still scummy, discuss.
Emotional longish answer to HF that leads to nowhere between the two, and then a list of reads that reads like "here's my stuff, ok? Bye". It looks cooked and doesn't really say a thing, doesn't look for answers. That's my issue with that post.
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On August 05 2014 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
It feels like some ancient philosophers are battling it out right now.
Thanks to you I ended up having chewed food on the floor.
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On August 05 2014 01:35 Vivax wrote:
Here, you plebs:
I find Wave still scummy, discuss.
Emotional longish answer to HF that leads to nowhere between the two, and then a list of reads that reads like "here's my stuff, ok? Bye". It looks cooked and doesn't really say a thing, doesn't look for answers. That's my issue with that post.
how familiar are you with Wave's play in general? Do you think this is out of the ordinary for him?
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Plus, good luck showing that his filter has no content. It's a statement anyone can make but nobody can prove, good luck posting the nothingness you see.
I can't believe you actually said this? Of course you can prove it. You have eyes, you can read it.
Regarding everything else, I can't honestly believe you're doing this thing all over again. I'm not saying haru having a different opinion is bad. I'm saying ITS NOT AN OPINION THAT MAKES SENSE IN THE CONTEXT. As if someone just threw in his idea to look like he's contributing to the situation BUT NOT READING THE CONTENT. <---- scummy
Wave also says "holy is only looking at my most recent games" but then calls me a liar. If I was a liar then looking at his recent games you'd see that he's done it. He hasn't. I don't want to push wave anymore for my own reasons because I want him to do things that don't involve squabbling over pedantic things like whether what I said was true 14 games back but not 10 or not. It was supposed to be something little that I found odd that I wanted people to discuss. It started something, haru's reply was scummy I picked up on haru, continue game.
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On August 05 2014 01:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##unvote
##vote marv
what is this?
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On August 05 2014 01:57 Holyflare wrote:what is this?
A vote, obviously.
I don't like the way Marv is dealing with the Vivax/you debacle.
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hey i just woke up and was catching up from my last post on p23, but around halfway thru p28, i said "nah fuck it"
who we killin? it's wave right? i might just move my vote there but first i have to do something
##UNVOTE: Artanis[Xp]
##VOTE: ObiWanShinobi
scummiest scum that ever scummed get d1'd again sucker
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On August 05 2014 01:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 01:35 Vivax wrote:
Here, you plebs:
I find Wave still scummy, discuss.
Emotional longish answer to HF that leads to nowhere between the two, and then a list of reads that reads like "here's my stuff, ok? Bye". It looks cooked and doesn't really say a thing, doesn't look for answers. That's my issue with that post. how familiar are you with Wave's play in general? Do you think this is out of the ordinary for him?
I don't know if he does that more often as either alignment, I just know that it seems hasty and that he seems content to sit on a conclusion and a not-conclusion without further inquiries, devoting most of his post to a call out to HF that doesn't really find resonance. It's almost as if he had made that last part in a hurry.
Then Eden asks him out more precisely about it, and Wave explains why Haru's post is scared scum, the backtrack and blahblah, and I don't know why I just don't like those posts of his after the big one.
Easy towncred when called out for defending everyone else's apparent scumread so he can say 'lulz why would I hard defend someone everyone else is attacking as scum' but more damning is the grabbing the quick out as soon as he could when attention trundle to him. It's pretty basic scared scumplay IMO, guy made a play and felt like it might have backfired/wants to play safe and get on everyone's good site now. See conversation with GK for example.
If I look at Haru's post, I don't feel like he's being scared at all, he's simply conversing with HF and rethinking part of his argumentation loudly.
It's simply a complete one-sided representation of Haru's play here:
nullreads wave -> It's a defense for towncred
states that wave wouldn't be happy about rolling scum -> backtracking
backtracking -> scared scum
tries to get on everyone's good side
Not happy about this stuff at all.
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