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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 04 2014 15:21 GMT
#541
On August 05 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
you're leading the votes sweetie

That's okay dear, once Eden gets back I'm sure that'll change. Not everyone is blinded by rage like yourself.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 04 2014 15:21 GMT
#542
On August 04 2014 21:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:27 kushm4sta wrote:
Jat ..really didn't like his one content post. Very lazy usage of meta is not what I'm used to seeing from jat.

What are you used to see from me then? Meanwhile I will tell you what I am used to see from you when you are mafia: weak cases on me.
I don't think my meta usage is weak at all. Feel free to disagree but if you attack my reasoning you will have to explain whats wrong with it.
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:32 Holyflare wrote:
obi being very mafiaish though

I agree.


Im not avoiding you. At that time I was doing stuff and I had a lot of other shit to talk about.
Why is your use of meta weak? Let me imitate it.
I remember so and so acting like this in that game, and he is/isn't acting like that in this game, so therefore I town/scum read him
That's the template for shit meta.

What am i used to from you?
Why would I tell you how to act town? Ok I will because I'm nice and I already know you're scum.
More engagement in this game, less bringing up comparisons to previous games
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
August 04 2014 15:23 GMT
#543
On August 05 2014 00:20 Vivax wrote:
@ JAT:

I would say that you should have by now realized that me "defending" Haru wasn't intended as defending Haru but simply saying that I didn't agree with the arguments HF was using, which was that huge focus on the -1 +1 part. I preferred to focus on Haru saying he was null on WoS, so maybe he didn't really think that math through properly but just wanted to express in a weird way he was null on WoS.

But you definitely did defend him by doing so, didn't you? And I don't neccessarily like this explanation better because I think what HF was doing there was pretty pro town.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 04 2014 15:25 GMT
#544
im confident in my new list:
artanis
jat
hf

(gd)
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
August 04 2014 15:25 GMT
#545
On August 05 2014 00:21 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 21:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 04 2014 20:27 kushm4sta wrote:
Jat ..really didn't like his one content post. Very lazy usage of meta is not what I'm used to seeing from jat.

What are you used to see from me then? Meanwhile I will tell you what I am used to see from you when you are mafia: weak cases on me.
I don't think my meta usage is weak at all. Feel free to disagree but if you attack my reasoning you will have to explain whats wrong with it.
On August 04 2014 20:32 Holyflare wrote:
obi being very mafiaish though

I agree.


Im not avoiding you. At that time I was doing stuff and I had a lot of other shit to talk about.
Why is your use of meta weak? Let me imitate it.
I remember so and so acting like this in that game, and he is/isn't acting like that in this game, so therefore I town/scum read him
That's the template for shit meta.

What am i used to from you?
Why would I tell you how to act town? Ok I will because I'm nice and I already know you're scum.
More engagement in this game, less bringing up comparisons to previous games

I don't see how using meta is scummy in any way. I also think I am pretty engaged in this game. And you STILL did not bring up WHY what I said is weak. You just generally shit on meta. I compared Obi and GKs play to their last game I just played with them. How does that not make sense?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 04 2014 15:25 GMT
#546
That's a pretty bad list kush.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 04 2014 15:26 GMT
#547
On August 05 2014 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 00:20 Vivax wrote:
@ JAT:

I would say that you should have by now realized that me "defending" Haru wasn't intended as defending Haru but simply saying that I didn't agree with the arguments HF was using, which was that huge focus on the -1 +1 part. I preferred to focus on Haru saying he was null on WoS, so maybe he didn't really think that math through properly but just wanted to express in a weird way he was null on WoS.

But you definitely did defend him by doing so, didn't you? And I don't neccessarily like this explanation better because I think what HF was doing there was pretty pro town.


No, I didn't defend him, I proposed a view of his play that wasn't focused on the -1 + 1 thingy. It's not the first time he uses stuff like that as a way to bring his point across and so far it never made sense to others. It simply isn't something I would use in my attempt to read him.

I defended him for myself maybe, if he believe what HF's says or what I say is ultimately up to them.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
August 04 2014 15:28 GMT
#548
On August 05 2014 00:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2014 00:20 Vivax wrote:
@ JAT:

I would say that you should have by now realized that me "defending" Haru wasn't intended as defending Haru but simply saying that I didn't agree with the arguments HF was using, which was that huge focus on the -1 +1 part. I preferred to focus on Haru saying he was null on WoS, so maybe he didn't really think that math through properly but just wanted to express in a weird way he was null on WoS.

But you definitely did defend him by doing so, didn't you? And I don't neccessarily like this explanation better because I think what HF was doing there was pretty pro town.


No, I didn't defend him, I proposed a view of his play that wasn't focused on the -1 + 1 thingy. It's not the first time he uses stuff like that as a way to bring his point across and so far it never made sense to others. It simply isn't something I would use in my attempt to read him.

I defended him for myself maybe, if he believe what HF's says or what I say is ultimately up to them.

Ok, whatever. Carry on.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 04 2014 15:28 GMT
#549
Vivax, don't you think part of the reason HF attacked strongly was to get the game started by getting a reaction though? It was mostly joking around until that point.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 04 2014 15:32 GMT
#550
On August 05 2014 00:25 kushm4sta wrote:
im confident in my new list:
artanis
jat
hf

(gd)


On August 04 2014 19:19 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah that's true. hf always opens with arguments that I perceive as scummy.


if this is the case then why am i in your list if it's something that you can't read me on at all?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 04 2014 15:33 GMT
#551
On August 05 2014 00:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I gave my own reasoning for townreading GK unrelated to what was already posted, I'm still scumreading Obi and I've given reasoning for scumreading Haru. I've also done a bunch of meta research.

And you're like 20 percent town. At best.


your reason was the exact reason that I already gave by the way
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 04 2014 15:35 GMT
#552
On August 05 2014 00:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 00:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I gave my own reasoning for townreading GK unrelated to what was already posted, I'm still scumreading Obi and I've given reasoning for scumreading Haru. I've also done a bunch of meta research.

And you're like 20 percent town. At best.


your reason was the exact reason that I already gave by the way

That's impossible as he just brought it up. He deflected marv's post by mentioning something about me super townreading wave for no good reason when if he had been paying attention he would've noticed that I mentioned townreading Wave from the get go. I even quoted it again when someone else asked it to me before. Bringing up this example felt awkward to begin with given his post so it makes no sense for him to do so unless he's trying to deflect.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 04 2014 15:38 GMT
#553
On August 04 2014 09:58 Vivax wrote:
I do get scum feels from GK for some reason but I'm not really confident about it.

On August 04 2014 10:00 Holyflare wrote:
i don't at all right now, totally different approach to showdown



this still kinda weirds me out because several people have said how different GK was so vivax why did you have the total opposite feeling, you said it was the "try hard entry" but it was at a time when people were starting to try harder. Also, I made a case like that in showdown and you said "that's not a thing"
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 04 2014 15:43 GMT
#554
wow jat you never had a scum game...
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 04 2014 15:44 GMT
#555
It seems there is a strong difference in Goodkarma's play regarding his two scumreads. I feel he ended up focusing much more on Haru than on WoS, and that after criticizing Haru for nullreading WoS for that.

Like, the one thing GoodKarma had to expect in his opinion was that Haru would scumread WoS with a -1.
I think that if they wanted to nullread somebody as opposed to scumreading him, then scum would prefer ścumreading the townie and null reading the other scum.

If that's what GK might think, too, then he must just feel as strongly scummy about Wave than he does for Haru, cause just then nullreading WoS might show a scum motive.
However all we are left with Goodkarma vs Wave is:

Your scumread and dunno read have been pretty active in thread. Kinda curious you haven't had anything to say to them.


WoS wrote this before GK posted that:
Scum: Haru---his defense of me is awkward and he immediately backtracks on it when given an out. Rubs me in completely the wrong direction


So they both scumread the same guy, Wave says what he found scummy about Haru, but GoodKarma still asks him that.
Besides, I don't really like the reason WoS is using there for scumreading Haru, so I'm surprised Goodkarma wouldn't also try to get more interactions with WoS aside from that sort of loaded post.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 04 2014 15:50 GMT
#556
On August 05 2014 00:43 kushm4sta wrote:
wow jat you never had a scum game...

he was scum in the original abandoned LXIV game hosted by LSB
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 04 2014 15:51 GMT
#557
Vivax, correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds to me like you're making an unflipped association between GK and WoS which seems to be the foundation to your case.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2014 15:53 GMT
#558
Hello.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2014 15:54 GMT
#559
Jat, why is it that you hate my entrance into this game? You hated my entrance into game-that-shall-not-be-named as well.
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
August 04 2014 15:59 GMT
#560
On August 05 2014 00:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 00:43 kushm4sta wrote:
wow jat you never had a scum game...

he was scum in the original abandoned LXIV game hosted by LSB

And kush was my scumbuddy btw.
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