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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 04 2014 22:36 Holyflare wrote: do you disagree with my post then kush? he hasn't said anything specific about anyone all game and when he does talk about someone he doesn't mention WHAT they say at all Probably because phone posting is the hardest shit on earth | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On August 04 2014 22:38 kushm4sta wrote: Why are you making this circular argument about marv's ability to read you? Do something that looks townie and I will townread you. Right now it looks like you are trying to opt out of that, so I'm scumreading you. plus other shit Your post implied that you scumread me because I "rolled over" to marv. I've said that Marv should be able to read me by the end of the day. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 04 2014 22:36 gobbledydook wrote: OK, I can accept that he's just mistaken. It's pretty bad logic though, the optimum mafia play is to play super townie anyway, so how does this game being vanilla make any difference? Are you sure you read my filter? The answer can be found there. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Mafia don't set out to play like mafia, that would be pretty dumb. | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
On August 04 2014 22:41 HaruRH wrote: Are you sure you read my filter? The answer can be found there. I read your filter and did not find a satisfactory answer. I think you are wrong. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On August 04 2014 22:46 marvellosity wrote: in any game mafia want to look really townie. the point of the game is that it's hard and therefore they get caught. Mafia don't set out to play like mafia, that would be pretty dumb. remember liquid city | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
all too well. you get my point though. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
1. there's no possibility of a medic, unlike most games, so scum will not be afraid to kill the best townie. That means good townies will maybe be careful about not becoming the obvious nk. They have to "hide" in a sense. 2. Town has so many possible mislynches that if scum act passively, they will just lose. People will townread all the active towns and the passive people will die off 1 by 1. So those are the reasons I remember that haru gave why it's more likely for scum to be an active player | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
any townie not playing as townie as possible in order to prevent themselves being a NK is both obnoxiously stupid and a complete asswipe. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On August 04 2014 22:55 marvellosity wrote: that's stupid though. any townie not playing as townie as possible in order to prevent themselves being a NK is both obnoxiously stupid and a complete asswipe. but my point is his ideas make sense and they don't warrant a scumread. I don't see how it's relevant if you agree. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On August 04 2014 23:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't like Obi. In Storm Mafia 2 he showed a lot of self-awareness, commented a lot about things outside of the game like which account he uses, mentioned he's blending, etc, whereas in Titanic and Noir he opened a lot more aggressively, not putting any attention towards himself, his mafia play, other accounts or anything like that. Straight to business, albeit in a joking fashion in a very different flavour than he's done this game. So if i understand you right, mafia=self awareness, talking about stuff outside the game town=aggressive, straight to business. So why don't you like him this game?? That's the part that didn't connect t ome. What about his "favour" points scummy? Meta counterpoint: if you look at Titanic (I think) he had a very low energy early game similar to this one. ok im talking too much i will talk less | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On August 04 2014 23:10 kushm4sta wrote: So if i understand you right, mafia=self awareness, talking about stuff outside the game town=aggressive, straight to business. So why don't you like him this game?? That's the part that didn't connect t ome. What about his "favour" points scummy? Meta counterpoint: if you look at Titanic (I think) he had a very low energy early game similar to this one. ok im talking too much i will talk less His 6 first posts are all related to talking about himself or things related to himself outside of the game, things I didn't find him doing in his last two towngames, but sound similar to the scumgame I mentioned, leading me to believe it's a scum trait. It wasn't like that in Titanic. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On August 04 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fuck I got town again. and the 5 next posts are him responding to people talking to him about that post. All those posts were in quick succession. He went afk and when he got back his posts were straight to business. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote: Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1. Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have. Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum. Hmmm gobble An answer you're not satisfied with =/= no answer. I have never played a game requiring 4+ (this is alot for me) mislynches for scum to win. Therefore, I'll shift my focus to see if its possible that there is scum amongst the 3 people I have noticed. If everyone (like you) is townreading them, they're potentially going to go far. Its highly likely for scum to hide with them and ascend to later games off initial townreads. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 04 2014 22:55 marvellosity wrote: that's stupid though. any townie not playing as townie as possible in order to prevent themselves being a NK is both obnoxiously stupid and a complete asswipe. Yea, and thus all good townies will die in early days while scum celebrate the shitup of the thread. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On August 04 2014 23:20 kushm4sta wrote: He made the one post: and the 5 next posts are him responding to people talking to him about that post. All those posts were in quick succession. He went afk and when he got back his posts were straight to business. Fair point. It still gives me scummy vibes though in that he started about it to begin with, and had no problem keeping the discussion focused on himself. | ||
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