EPTHenceforth I will be going Adkins instead of going afk
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Eden1892
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Henceforth I will be going Adkins instead of going afk | ||
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On August 06 2014 19:17 Holyflare wrote: Scum motive: be where all the cool ppl are I guess but if I'm scum I take the free wasted mislynch and go Adkins Not like he looks any better for hopping on Vivax's dick and doin a full split Or that he would look worse for being Adkins due to time zone | ||
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On August 06 2014 19:19 Holyflare wrote: But if he's town then hiw does he know the wagon needs more votes? For him to know that much he'd have to be reading and then he coukd have posted something but he didn't Hypo: You wake up 10mins before deadline and check voting thread in majority lynch. You see this shit happening. What do you do? | ||
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On August 06 2014 19:20 Holyflare wrote: Alternatively mafia chat says quick. Haru dying need more votes on vivax and he does it and they are both mafia  Yes and I will go home to a Ukrainian model making me a shrimp chimichanga for breakfast I would love it but I don't believe in miracles | ||
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How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop | ||
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I remember his cases on d1 from webdiplomacy. Same style as his Haru case. I got that good vibe from him early too mon If we lunch b/t other d1 wagons tomorrow then we get Haru IMO | ||
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Man where the other squares at Holyflare did you ever find gobble's justification for switching? I remember seeing it and not thinking it was weird but lol @ going to find it on my phone | ||
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On August 06 2014 19:48 Holyflare wrote: I'm almost sure he said he was sleeping 4 hours before that or something too so unless he got 4 hours sleep and conveniently woke up at deadline i think he's probably lying  This should be good | ||
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There's just a fire missing in your play that was burning bright and hot last game. Anyone else that was in that game can probably back me up on it. You played pretty tough and were unafraid to challenge people on anything. Hell, our first interaction in that game, you called me out for trying to seed your ML after Slamroot. Never mind whether that was true or not; the point is that you were completely fearless in your assertions. In retrospect, it was pretty obvious that you were town, and I should have read it much earlier. Your play's just really different here. There's a meek deference when you're interacting with most people. You've been getting scumread by a lot of people, and while you are doing something to resist it, the fire's just not there like it was before. Something's just off. My first thought on it is that part of your passionate defenses of yourself when you're town come from the ironclad knowledge that you're town, and the added fervor that comes from knowing you're right; and thus that the fire's missing in your defense this time because you're mafia, you know you are, and you can't generate the same righteous indignation that you have when you're innocent and accused of being guilty. But that's not the only explanation that fits, and there are townsided explanations that fit. So, before I try to get you lynched, if there's a townsided explanation for this, please tell me what's up. You can say that you don't have to appease me and don't want to deal with it, and that's fine, but you know from our other game that I can get people to support a lynch I want, and I think you and I both would be better off just working with me on this question instead of trying to play hardball with this talk of appeasement. Okay? | ||
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I already feel better about it, but if you can help me out with this concern anyway that would go a long way. | ||
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FWIW I think you're really on-point with obi and it makes me feel better about you. marv/hf are y'all still of the mind that we definitely had a scum b/t Haru and gobble? | ||
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i thought i remembered you saying otherwise but maybe i'm mixing it up | ||
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do you think obi is town or do you think he is scum? i thought we agreed that gobble was more likely town which means either haru is scum or neither is scum you said nothing about your view on haru changed and you said you think there's a scum b/t haru and gobble if haru is scum and claiming to scumread obi then obi is ???? | ||
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two things re: gobble... 1. I realized when I reread his Haru case and reexamined the webdip game that his case is written in the same style here as his cases were there. Gobble is very confident and to-the-point when he writes his cases, and he tends to present the strongest possible case he can against the targets he picks out for a lynch. They can come across as being unfair (which I think Vivax called him out on, maybe others too? can't remember who exactly, sorry) or one-sided, and sometimes they are. But especially given his claim that this is his second town game online, ever (and I believe that claim), and first on TL, I'm not surprised by it. There's a tendency among newer players to do point-by-point analyses where they find scummy behavior in everything the target does. Gobble doesn't quite go that far, but I feel like that tendency is there and that it's easy to misread as scum overselling a case. 2. His check-in trying to get his vote switched at deadline makes much more sense to me from a townie POV than a scummy one. Remember that Gobble was Adkins the whole time leading up to the lynch, due to time zones. The incentive from a town POV to try to get a vote switch in at deadline is obvious: he thought we were going to a no-lynch and voted to avoid it. But as scum, he had a perfectly plausible out to look at the game at deadline, see that it was probably going to a no-lynch, and not make any posts to indicate that he was online. Announcing his presence actually caught him some fire from Holyflare, I think, for ninja voting and then leaving. That's somewhat risky for scum, and more importantly, it's taking a risk for a negative payout, because if he doesn't do anything, town no-lynches instead of lynching, and loses a mislynch. The logical play for scum to make in his shoes is not to try to get a vote in before deadline to avoid an NL. That doesn't mean he wouldn't subvert that expectation as scum, but it does mean that the more reasonable explanation for his play there is that he is town. | ||
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