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JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 11:35 GMT
#688
What I can't wrap my head around, why would meatpudding defend DC when they're both the wagons?
It just doesn't make sense to me.
If I was up on the block with someone I'd try to defend myself, seeing as I know that I'm town, and not defend nor throw under the bus the other guy, unless I had already read him as scum and it was going to be my vote either way.
If I read him as town, just like me, depending on how strong I might have thrown in a defense or two for him, but mostly just trying to make sure that I am being read as the town that I am. Because that's where something must have gone wrong then.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 16:07 GMT
#730
Gooooooooooooooooood morning, and my my my what a good morning it is!

1 down, boys! This is awesome!

That brutal description though of the death, eek!

Let's see what horrors the night phase brings. Also, we can all talk during a night phase, wooot.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 16:17 GMT
#735
On August 01 2014 01:08 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 01:07 JennyHell wrote:
Gooooooooooooooooood morning, and my my my what a good morning it is!

1 down, boys! This is awesome!

That brutal description though of the death, eek!

Let's see what horrors the night phase brings. Also, we can all talk during a night phase, wooot.

Yeah, pretty weird, huh?


Super weird!
But awesome!
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 17:12 GMT
#740
Ok, 3 things, while I nom on some bacon and cheese risotto.

1. What the bleep is WIFOM, never heard that abbreviation before.

2. To me noone is confirmed town apart from myself. Confirmed means 100% positive, and I can't even say I am about my husband.

3. Meatpudding, take this nightphase to explain to us the logic you were trying to put forth. Why did you go so hard on Teemu, why did you decide to defend someone else than yourself when you were both on the block?
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 17:24 GMT
#742
On August 01 2014 02:21 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 02:12 JennyHell wrote:
Ok, 3 things, while I nom on some bacon and cheese risotto.

1. What the bleep is WIFOM, never heard that abbreviation before.

2. To me noone is confirmed town apart from myself. Confirmed means 100% positive, and I can't even say I am about my husband.

3. Meatpudding, take this nightphase to explain to us the logic you were trying to put forth. Why did you go so hard on Teemu, why did you decide to defend someone else than yourself when you were both on the block?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM



Basically it's saying like,

Ok, I am town because I would never kill someone who reads me as town (in the night).

You could say it's a WIFOM, because you're using reverse psychology/you did it just because you could say that now.

That person then could respond that, well, you could be mafia making those kills, making me look bad and push on me by saying that I killed that person in the night so that I could say what I said.

Then, reverse reverse reverse psychology.

etc etc etc.

It's basically an endless loop that's based on reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse reverse psychology.


Oooooh.. Thanks
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 19:19 GMT
#754
Haha, some of the logic of people is just so wacko. Why even call Teemu out for it when others did it multiple times during d1? It just doesn't make sense. Stop trying to help mafia by clearing their questionmarks out for them.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 19:27 GMT
#761
All I'm saying is why even bring it up GB? You're the one that's blown it way out of proportion..
If it weren't for that weird comment, then it wouldn't have expanded like this.. Just saying.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 19:37 GMT
#767
On August 01 2014 04:29 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 01 2014 04:27 JennyHell wrote:
All I'm saying is why even bring it up GB? You're the one that's blown it way out of proportion..
If it weren't for that weird comment, then it wouldn't have expanded like this.. Just saying.


Why not bringing that up, Sympathetic Mouth?
What do you think I should be doing?


Honestly, like I did, ignore that comment and let the mafia wonder amongst themselves.
We're working against mafia here, not trying to help them.
I felt like you bringing it up and making it such a big deal, even though others have done the same before and you didn't bring it up then, is more likely to damage town than help it.

If you really had something you wanted to comment about that one statement he did, you could have done so at a more appropriate time. That's how I see it.

Besides, you said this:
Saying someone is blue daytime =\= saying someone is blue night time.


If they're one and the same to you, why did you only poke at one of the claims and not the other?
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 19:48 GMT
#771
= is an equal sign, no? 1 plus 1 EQUALS 2.

This is just confusing.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 19:56 GMT
#773
On August 01 2014 04:52 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 04:48 JennyHell wrote:
= is an equal sign, no? 1 plus 1 EQUALS 2.

This is just confusing.

=/=, !=, == or ≠ means "does not equal".


Lemme guess, it's part of some ridiculous math language? If so, let me just say.. I didn't go to cambridge for maths.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 20:00 GMT
#775
On August 01 2014 04:57 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 04:56 JennyHell wrote:
On August 01 2014 04:52 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 04:48 JennyHell wrote:
= is an equal sign, no? 1 plus 1 EQUALS 2.

This is just confusing.

=/=, !=, == or ≠ means "does not equal".


Lemme guess, it's part of some ridiculous math language? If so, let me just say.. I didn't go to cambridge for maths.

1 ≠ 2.

Not too ridiculous, is it?


I get the jist of it.. now.. It's supposed to be a crossed over equal sign, signifying it isn't equal.
I still would have much more preferred the crocodile mouths < and >. Like this: 1 < 2
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 20:55 GMT
#793
On August 01 2014 05:47 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 01:48 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 01:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 01:41 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 01:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 01:10 Teemursu wrote:
On August 01 2014 00:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 01 2014 00:44 Teemursu wrote:
Seeyalater, you said earlier that people kind of pressured us to vote on each other, or something. 666 pressured me for not voting on you and I just wanted to know, who was the one that pressured you to vote on me?

Whoever did that to you could be mafia with 666 trying to make us think there's a mafia between one of us, maybe.


There is a mafia between you. I'm trying to figure out who.
Source: vote count

Idk if this is true yet, since the votes towards the end weren't consolidated by that much. I'll leave the vote logic to Banks and he's probably the only one I can trust about it.


Wait, what? Votes were 4 on meatpudding (set to be lynched) and 4 on 666. You don't think this is consolidated?
Basic vote logic: not considering a little WIFOMy scenario, mafia wouldn't probably vote on themselves. Therefore, lets check people who are voting on someone else.
That leaves only you and Seeyalater. Meatpudding decided not to vote on himself so an ok logic.

In the end, it was 5-3.

It's not a WIFOM scenario, mafia vote on mafia all the time if they see their member go down. If what you said was true 100% of the time and ONLY town voted on 666, from my PoV the mafia team would be 100% confirmed Seeyalater and meatpudding, and Idk if that is the case yet.


Yeah, I do understand what you say, but you gotta admit that the probability of what I've brought is higher.

In the end it was 5-3 because I switched from meatpudding to 666. Check my filter and my reasoning. Top town now?
BUT MAFIA KILL MEATPUDDING HE IS BLUUUUUE


No, I get that, and I'm not calling you mafia (check my post about 666's interactions), but your vote kind of makes the least amount of difference, because meat looked like he was going down anyway. And I do n't know the probability of what you're proposing. Mafia is a game about reads, not probability. If you go by probability only, all games would only have like one possible outcome (obviously the extreme scenario, but you get my point?).



If GB didn't vote for Roman NumeralGuy RNG would still be alive and Meat would be dead so like his vote was essentially a hammer.


But was it mafia hammer, trying to make himself "confirmed" as he stated in a post earlier this nightphase. Or was is town hammer?
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 21:36 GMT
#798
I've had that stupid Eiffel 65 song going around in my head ever since it was linked. CURSE YOU, POOFTAH!
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 23:09 GMT
#812
I'm almost ready for the wedding.

I have something old and something borrowed. Just missing one more piece.

(totally just said this to annoy Tolkien right now)
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 23:16 GMT
#815
On August 01 2014 08:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 08:09 JennyHell wrote:
I'm almost ready for the wedding.

I have something old and something borrowed. Just missing one more piece.

(totally just said this to annoy Tolkien right now)

I'ma gonna shoot you for that.

>:-(


Haha aww, c'mon lighten up. It was funny!
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
July 31 2014 23:38 GMT
#822
On August 01 2014 08:31 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 08:14 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On August 01 2014 08:09 JennyHell wrote:
I'm almost ready for the wedding.

I have something old and something borrowed. Just missing one more piece.

(totally just said this to annoy Tolkien right now)

I'ma gonna shoot you for that.

>:-(


There will be no threats against confirmed town.


Hate to break it to you, no matter how strong of a read you have, noone is actually confirmed this or that before they are flipped. Just saying..
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 01 2014 00:29 GMT
#832
On August 01 2014 08:42 Tehpoofter wrote:
EVERYONE MAKE SOME SORT OF MARRY BANG KILL OR READS BEFORE NIGHTFALL!!!! Someone is dying unless I get a medic save and we need to know where people are at.

Please give reasons. This is a great time to point out theories you might have talk about interactions with the RNG man and how it affects your reads post flip. We didn't know he was mafia until a bit ago.

MY READS WERE SUPER BASIC FOR A REASON I WANT DETAILED READS FROM OTHERS PLEASE!!



Marry
- Pooftahboy
Will not give my reasons for this one. I think it's way too obvious already and if you haven't paid enough attention to draw the conclusions yourself then you don't deserve to know why.
Also, I'm going carpe diem mode on this and saying fuck it! Let's do it! Where mah diamond ring at, yo?

Bang
- GB
Your attitude, man... Stop giving up so easily. Unless you're actually mafia, then please do give up and let me win. Thanks.
You've had some really bonkers reads and flawed logic, but you're genuinely trying to solve this, or at least so it appears to me. You're not my lynch for today. Enjoy the bang sesh.

- Tolkien
Oh boy, you just keep coming back for more, don't you? You do need to lighten up a litte, but I love that you're showing such passion for the game that you're willing to yell at my hubby. Or is it raging jealousy?
On a more serious note though, where your posts lack in quantity you make up for it in quality.

- Teemu
I still have no clue how to even begin to read you. Sometimes you appear really towny in things you say and then you start talking smack about wolves and whatnot. It's just really confusing.
The fact that people I find scummy is pushing on you, makes me think you're more towny. So welcome to a 1 night stand. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

Kill

- Meatpudding
I can't make sense out of why you went to such a distance of defending DC. I felt if you really wanted to swing it around and push on Teemu there were way better ways to do it than your pisspoor attempts. I said it back then and I'll say it again you were grasping at straws and you were defending the other wagon over yourself. Really odd behaviour. I need an explanation before I even begin reconsidering this scum you've smeared yourself in.

Loners
You lot are loners because you didn't get married or banged, but you're still alive, for now.

-Seeya
A lot of people read you scum and to start with I had a really hard time seeing it. But it's come to a point where I don't really know where you stand any more. People are starting to make sense about you that you're just doing what I like to call "the pope game". You play just about towny enough, nothing more than that. I want to see some passion from you!
I liked your towny approach the last few hours of the day, discussing your gut feeling about meat and what to do if a tie occurs etc.
However, why you feel I've fallen off due to some silly ass early read from DC about me being towny (when everyone but GB read me town) is just odd.
I need you to show me my gbff and how much he wants to win this for town!

-lilwade
You're getting closer to being on the banglist. I still have some qualms about you, but your early push on DC and your newfound uplifting attitude is fantastic.
The reason you didn't make my banglist is because some of the things you said earlier, asking meat to announce his role (coaching mafia mate? I dno..)
And then when I said that I didn't like that you agreed and it just felt very flipfloppy, and noone likes flip flops. They make the most annoying sounds.


JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 01 2014 00:59 GMT
#834
On August 01 2014 09:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 09:29 JennyHell wrote:
On August 01 2014 08:42 Tehpoofter wrote:
EVERYONE MAKE SOME SORT OF MARRY BANG KILL OR READS BEFORE NIGHTFALL!!!! Someone is dying unless I get a medic save and we need to know where people are at.

Please give reasons. This is a great time to point out theories you might have talk about interactions with the RNG man and how it affects your reads post flip. We didn't know he was mafia until a bit ago.

MY READS WERE SUPER BASIC FOR A REASON I WANT DETAILED READS FROM OTHERS PLEASE!!



Marry
- Pooftahboy
Will not give my reasons for this one. I think it's way too obvious already and if you haven't paid enough attention to draw the conclusions yourself then you don't deserve to know why.
Also, I'm going carpe diem mode on this and saying fuck it! Let's do it! Where mah diamond ring at, yo?

Bang
- GB
Your attitude, man... Stop giving up so easily. Unless you're actually mafia, then please do give up and let me win. Thanks.
You've had some really bonkers reads and flawed logic, but you're genuinely trying to solve this, or at least so it appears to me. You're not my lynch for today. Enjoy the bang sesh.

- Tolkien
Oh boy, you just keep coming back for more, don't you? You do need to lighten up a litte, but I love that you're showing such passion for the game that you're willing to yell at my hubby. Or is it raging jealousy?
On a more serious note though, where your posts lack in quantity you make up for it in quality.

- Teemu
I still have no clue how to even begin to read you. Sometimes you appear really towny in things you say and then you start talking smack about wolves and whatnot. It's just really confusing.
The fact that people I find scummy is pushing on you, makes me think you're more towny. So welcome to a 1 night stand. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

Kill

- Meatpudding
I can't make sense out of why you went to such a distance of defending DC. I felt if you really wanted to swing it around and push on Teemu there were way better ways to do it than your pisspoor attempts. I said it back then and I'll say it again you were grasping at straws and you were defending the other wagon over yourself. Really odd behaviour. I need an explanation before I even begin reconsidering this scum you've smeared yourself in.

Loners
You lot are loners because you didn't get married or banged, but you're still alive, for now.

-Seeya
A lot of people read you scum and to start with I had a really hard time seeing it. But it's come to a point where I don't really know where you stand any more. People are starting to make sense about you that you're just doing what I like to call "the pope game". You play just about towny enough, nothing more than that. I want to see some passion from you!
I liked your towny approach the last few hours of the day, discussing your gut feeling about meat and what to do if a tie occurs etc.
However, why you feel I've fallen off due to some silly ass early read from DC about me being towny (when everyone but GB read me town) is just odd.
I need you to show me my gbff and how much he wants to win this for town!

-lilwade
You're getting closer to being on the banglist. I still have some qualms about you, but your early push on DC and your newfound uplifting attitude is fantastic.
The reason you didn't make my banglist is because some of the things you said earlier, asking meat to announce his role (coaching mafia mate? I dno..)
And then when I said that I didn't like that you agreed and it just felt very flipfloppy, and noone likes flip flops. They make the most annoying sounds.




I think this is a really good example of a reads list that a townie makes like everyone needs to do something like this. Good info here good analysis. Good job Wife.

I sent you a link to the ring so be ready. Also FlipFlops are amazing!

My question to you is do you feel that if you're wrong on a Bang who do you think it would be?
´

Wrong on a bang... Could honestly be either one of them.
The one I'm having the hardest time reading is Teemu, but that scum is pushing on him helps his case.
If it's Tolkien, good job at portraying town when you have to. This is the one I least think it is if I'm wrong on one.
GB's shown some weird ass logic and give-up attitude. Something I highly dislike seeing in town play. I once played an 8player video mafia game where the VT gave up and we ended up mislynching him, then mafia still had 2kp, and we ended up losing the game from 1 misslynch. Fairly sure the setup in that game is ridiculous, but whatever. Never give up as town. Fight fight fight and fight some more. Him giving up without even being pushed is very peculiar. Mafia trying to appeal to emotions? I dno.. It's too confusing. Could me meta GB, could be Teemu the unreadable, could not be Tolkien, unless I'm a massive donkey.
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 01 2014 01:23 GMT
#838
slap, slap, slap, slap
JennyHell
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden259 Posts
August 01 2014 01:45 GMT
#840
On August 01 2014 10:35 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 10:23 JennyHell wrote:
slap, slap, slap, slap


Hitting people is not okay Jenny. Wait were you hitting Rihanna?


No, it was the sound of your flip flops.
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