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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 22:48 GMT
#141
Proposition denied.

I want to see how this plays out before I decide Day 1's lynch.
Retired.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22273 Posts
July 29 2014 22:50 GMT
#142
On July 30 2014 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 07:42 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that you didn't give a satisfactory answer as to how sure you are about me being scum just based on my former reasoning.

Do you have the guts?


I think you're confusing guts with being retarded. You yourself agreed with my complaint about games degrading and not being analytical but the moment i start with analysis why do you try and sidetrack that instead of just refuting what i said and in fact avoiding any real analysis with some useless "do you have the guts question"?

Very bad vivax


My post about SlOosh was even more analytical, and not instantly condemning as opposed to yours, which was limited to skip over my point of view to summarize it as being tryhard scum.

Faced with your one-way infamy I see no choice but to force you to be prepared for a challenge against my minority, and from what I've gathered, you seem to display a great deal of cowardice, and call my courage retardedness, just like a rat would, to rationalize his failure in facing a much more worthy contender.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 29 2014 22:52 GMT
#143
It's one thing to ignore it entirely but to then continue to ask a question with only 1 logical follow-up (i cant be sure 30 mins into a game herp derp) is actually silly and not in the same spectrum of scum hunting that you would associate with someone thinking about things like you want to appear to be doing
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 29 2014 22:54 GMT
#144
On July 30 2014 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 07:42 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that you didn't give a satisfactory answer as to how sure you are about me being scum just based on my former reasoning.

Do you have the guts?


I think you're confusing guts with being retarded. You yourself agreed with my complaint about games degrading and not being analytical but the moment i start with analysis why do you try and sidetrack that instead of just refuting what i said and in fact avoiding any real analysis with some useless "do you have the guts question"?

Very bad vivax


um ok so first vivax is too tryhard, must be scum..
now vivax is sidetracking analysis?
those seem like contradictory points.

Furthermore I would not describe vivax's play as either of those things.
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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 29 2014 22:54 GMT
#145
On July 30 2014 07:50 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 07:42 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that you didn't give a satisfactory answer as to how sure you are about me being scum just based on my former reasoning.

Do you have the guts?


I think you're confusing guts with being retarded. You yourself agreed with my complaint about games degrading and not being analytical but the moment i start with analysis why do you try and sidetrack that instead of just refuting what i said and in fact avoiding any real analysis with some useless "do you have the guts question"?

Very bad vivax


My post about SlOosh was even more analytical, and not instantly condemning as opposed to yours, which was limited to skip over my point of view to summarize it as being tryhard scum.

Faced with your one-way infamy I see no choice but to force you to be prepared for a challenge against my minority, and from what I've gathered, you seem to display a great deal of cowardice, and call my courage retardedness, just like a rat would, to rationalize his failure in facing a much more worthy contender.

Please explain.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 29 2014 22:55 GMT
#146
On July 30 2014 07:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax has no authority in this town. I am the law. I will be the one issuing duels and anyone that does so against my orders shall be lynched.

Bow to the will of the state.


I feel like you're trying to live out that song by The Clash - I fought the law and the law won.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 29 2014 22:56 GMT
#147
afk
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22273 Posts
July 29 2014 22:57 GMT
#148
On July 30 2014 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
It's one thing to ignore it entirely but to then continue to ask a question with only 1 logical follow-up (i cant be sure 30 mins into a game herp derp) is actually silly and not in the same spectrum of scum hunting that you would associate with someone thinking about things like you want to appear to be doing


Misrepresentations of my posts will be either corrected or punished. Stubborn perseverance on a point made that apparently isn't valid enough for you to definitely categorize me as scum, but valid enough to be classified as analytical, isn't something I see as townie behaviour.

I have challenged your strange confidence you expressed in me being mafia by forcing you to prepare for an eventual duel, and now you have proven my point by saying that nobody can be very confident 30 minutes in the game, yet that post of yours sounded like it was the case, given that it offered no townie explanation for my behaviour.

You have backtracked in the face of danger, sir. Prepare for the consequences.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 29 2014 22:57 GMT
#149
On July 30 2014 07:54 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 07:42 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that you didn't give a satisfactory answer as to how sure you are about me being scum just based on my former reasoning.

Do you have the guts?


I think you're confusing guts with being retarded. You yourself agreed with my complaint about games degrading and not being analytical but the moment i start with analysis why do you try and sidetrack that instead of just refuting what i said and in fact avoiding any real analysis with some useless "do you have the guts question"?

Very bad vivax


um ok so first vivax is too tryhard, must be scum..
now vivax is sidetracking analysis?
those seem like contradictory points.

Furthermore I would not describe vivax's play as either of those things.


No. Selectively picking out something and making it seem like it's different and then writing a longer paragraph than needed on it = try hard. Scummy.

Vivax then sidetracks MY analysis on his post to a silly question which he would know there's only one real answer to. Scummy.

Then he keeps talking about dueling me tomorrow instead of discussing why something is wrong ot right or why specifically he picked sloosh out of 3 people that posted similarly. Scummy.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22273 Posts
July 29 2014 22:59 GMT
#150
On July 30 2014 07:54 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 07:50 Vivax wrote:
On July 30 2014 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 07:42 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that you didn't give a satisfactory answer as to how sure you are about me being scum just based on my former reasoning.

Do you have the guts?


I think you're confusing guts with being retarded. You yourself agreed with my complaint about games degrading and not being analytical but the moment i start with analysis why do you try and sidetrack that instead of just refuting what i said and in fact avoiding any real analysis with some useless "do you have the guts question"?

Very bad vivax


My post about SlOosh was even more analytical, and not instantly condemning as opposed to yours, which was limited to skip over my point of view to summarize it as being tryhard scum.

Faced with your one-way infamy I see no choice but to force you to be prepared for a challenge against my minority, and from what I've gathered, you seem to display a great deal of cowardice, and call my courage retardedness, just like a rat would, to rationalize his failure in facing a much more worthy contender.

Please explain.


Already did. That post is easy enough to understand.

I was trying to get townreads on early posters, and get a circle to write the law of this town, when you joined in completely oblivious of that noble intent, derailing the thread into an unproductive direction.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 29 2014 23:02 GMT
#151
On July 30 2014 07:56 Palmar wrote:
afk


If this is the whole night, lynch him.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 29 2014 23:02 GMT
#152
vivax dont you think two scummy people should duel each other, rather than 1 scummy vs 1 townie?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 29 2014 23:03 GMT
#153
On July 30 2014 07:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 07:54 slOosh wrote:
On July 30 2014 07:50 Vivax wrote:
On July 30 2014 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
On July 30 2014 07:42 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that you didn't give a satisfactory answer as to how sure you are about me being scum just based on my former reasoning.

Do you have the guts?


I think you're confusing guts with being retarded. You yourself agreed with my complaint about games degrading and not being analytical but the moment i start with analysis why do you try and sidetrack that instead of just refuting what i said and in fact avoiding any real analysis with some useless "do you have the guts question"?

Very bad vivax


My post about SlOosh was even more analytical, and not instantly condemning as opposed to yours, which was limited to skip over my point of view to summarize it as being tryhard scum.

Faced with your one-way infamy I see no choice but to force you to be prepared for a challenge against my minority, and from what I've gathered, you seem to display a great deal of cowardice, and call my courage retardedness, just like a rat would, to rationalize his failure in facing a much more worthy contender.

Please explain.


Already did. That post is easy enough to understand.

I was trying to get townreads on early posters, and get a circle to write the law of this town, when you joined in completely oblivious of that noble intent, derailing the thread into an unproductive direction.

I would have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for you meddling kids!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 29 2014 23:04 GMT
#154
On July 30 2014 08:02 kushm4sta wrote:
vivax dont you think two scummy people should duel each other, rather than 1 scummy vs 1 townie?


Ultimately the best thing but not sure if it's awful with 1 town 1 mafia either cz then people have to be analytical and you can spot the inconsistencies
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2014 23:04 GMT
#155
On July 30 2014 08:02 kushm4sta wrote:
vivax dont you think two scummy people should duel each other, rather than 1 scummy vs 1 townie?


There are two things wrong with this plan:

A) We risk losing our lynch because the mafia can deflect the lynch if we actually end up having a scummy town duel someone. Since basically everyone knows I'm town by now, then if we actually hit scum, scum is guaranteed to get lynched.
B) I am the fucking duelmaster. The duelmaster doesn't allow others to duel in his stead.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 29 2014 23:05 GMT
#156
Set up talk bad. Back to vivax talk plz.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 29 2014 23:06 GMT
#157
kush, give us your feels on Vivax & HolyFlare.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 29 2014 23:07 GMT
#158
On July 30 2014 08:06 slOosh wrote:
kush, give us your feels on Vivax & HolyFlare.


You're the one that vivax was targeting i think it's best from you
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22273 Posts
July 29 2014 23:08 GMT
#159
On July 30 2014 08:02 kushm4sta wrote:
vivax dont you think two scummy people should duel each other, rather than 1 scummy vs 1 townie?


I think the idea Obi proposed of getting one townie looking guy to duel a scummy guy is good.

Mafia can cause a lot of chaos in the eventuality that two scummy people duel each other. Imagine if they both were townies. You mislynch one, and they can push the idea that people on his wagon were scummy, then maybe they mislynch the other, and so on. Besides, if mafia so wants, they can simply refuse to duel, upon which somebody has to take up the task and pick one of the two.

Seems rather unrealistical. I like the idea of having one townie guy duel somebody who is scummy, it will look one sided, but it will also be one of the opportunities where either scum shows face or has to give up on their teammate, if the target was right.

And after all, if somebody is confident enough, he will duel on his own. We should be careful after all to not become tunneled and emotional all too quickly, even though it's hard for me when confronted with HF's attempts to misrepresent my posts and paint me scum.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 29 2014 23:09 GMT
#160
HF, i like the reasons why you are calling vivax scum, but I don't think those reasons apply to vivax. It scares me about your alignment because it's like you know what makes someone scummy but you are misapplying it.
Set up talk is bad? I'd say it's not alignment indicative usually, but I think there is an optimal way to play this setup and if discussion can bring us towards that, it is productive and protown.
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