EPTAlso if both people are scummy, what's the difference of having them both up for lynch at the same time than having them up one at a time?
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
Also if both people are scummy, what's the difference of having them both up for lynch at the same time than having them up one at a time? | ||
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Vivax
22104 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:09 kushm4sta wrote: HF, i like the reasons why you are calling vivax scum, but I don't think those reasons apply to vivax. It scares me about your alignment because it's like you know what makes someone scummy but you are misapplying it. Set up talk is bad? I'd say it's not alignment indicative usually, but I think there is an optimal way to play this setup and if discussion can bring us towards that, it is productive and protown. So you think the point I made that SlOosh's entrance was disruptive to the purpose of finding townies and finding a general direction to work into was scummy? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 30 2014 07:34 Holyflare wrote: Other joke posts/not caring posts from me and ritoky and you pick out sloosh who is doing the same thing and write a big paragraph explaining it. Reeks of too mafia try hard. Is this wrong? You even said i was doing the same thing as sloosh straight after so why did you only mention sloosh and not ritoky and me? Why the fluffy way of phrasing how what he did was bad for town? Why is it so hard to get an answer out of you instead of repetitive questions back at me? | ||
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Vivax
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
But then townie-looking townies duelled mafia and that plan went out the window, and it turned out ok in the end. don't care about holy/vivax. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:10 kushm4sta wrote: See I think, rather than an impulsive thing, duels should be forced by town consensus between the two scummiest people. That way the voting phase will mean something. Also if both people are scummy, what's the difference of having them both up for lynch at the same time than having them up one at a time? What if the two scummiest don't want to duel each other? The reality of it is we should be able to pick our lynch before we even begin to duel, thereby ensuring that we get the correct lynch and that the mafia has no ability to manipulate the vote either way. Since everybody knows I am town, I can ensure that whoever I duel will get lynched; ergo, this is the most efficient way of lynching people since there's simply no room for mafia to maneuver when the gauntlet is thrown. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:09 kushm4sta wrote: HF, i like the reasons why you are calling vivax scum, but I don't think those reasons apply to vivax. It scares me about your alignment because it's like you know what makes someone scummy but you are misapplying it. Set up talk is bad? I'd say it's not alignment indicative usually, but I think there is an optimal way to play this setup and if discussion can bring us towards that, it is productive and protown. How do those 2 go together? If you like the reasons then surely that means they are accurate and not misapplied? Why do they not apply to vivax? | ||
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Vivax
22104 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:15 Holyflare wrote: How do those 2 go together? If you like the reasons then surely that means they are accurate and not misapplied? Why do they not apply to vivax? It's pretty simple to explain actually, he thinks you're using sound reason to scumread somebody, but he doesn't think that those reasons apply to me. Further explanation doesn't seem necessary since in theory you should be more capable of understand english than me. | ||
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Vivax
22104 Posts
I'm especially interested into hearing SlOosh's and HF's opinion on this. | ||
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Vivax
22104 Posts
Do you think we're both town? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:16 Vivax wrote: It's pretty simple to explain actually, he thinks you're using sound reason to scumread somebody, but he doesn't think that those reasons to me. Further explanation doesn't seem necessary since in theory you should be more capable of understand english than me. Thanks for answering for another player. Why are you not disagreeing with this quote then seeing as apparently everything I've said is a misrepresentation and wrong but instead answering his intentions? Why does it not apply to you? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On July 30 2014 07:57 Holyflare wrote: No. Selectively picking out something and making it seem like it's different and then writing a longer paragraph than needed on it = try hard. Scummy. Vivax then sidetracks MY analysis on his post to a silly question which he would know there's only one real answer to. Scummy. Then he keeps talking about dueling me tomorrow instead of discussing why something is wrong ot right or why specifically he picked sloosh out of 3 people that posted similarly. Scummy. HF case on vivax: 1. tryhard "longer paragraph" on sloosh's fake duel it wasn't even near a paragraph. Vivax looks like he was just doing his due diligence pressuring earlygame derp. plus your statement that it was the same as ritoky is not true, because fake dueling is closer to something very harmful to town like fake claiming. ritoky just said random shit. 2. he keeps talking about dueling you tomorrow/sidetracking analysis he mentioned dueling you only once in a very indirect way. how is he sidetracking analysis when all he did was answer your joke with another short joke.. you say : how much do you scumread me? he says : 5 much you say : do you have the guts to duel me that is sidetracking analysis?? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:24 Vivax wrote: Marv why don't you care about our dispute? Do you think we're both town? There's nothing happening in your conversation. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:14 Vivax wrote: I picked SlOosh's post cause it interfered with my intent and was after all, a post that might or might not tell me he's scumreading me. It was one of those posts that have the potential to cause chaos while you try to get a productive discussion going, and people making those posts can say it was meant seriously or as a joke afterwards, whatever they prefer and is most comfortable for them in the moment they have to explain it. Understandable. I found it ludicrous that you would accuse me of "polarizing and stirring chaos" off a duel post, especially since it was just established a couple posts back that it was night time and duels don't happen until day cycle begins. Furthermore, I don't see how what you were doing was necessarily a clear cut way of "making a town circle", because, let's face it, scum can setup spec with the best of them, so I question just how productive your discussions were that you could claim that I was being that much more unproductive. I find it disconcerting that you are throwing mud on HolyFlare in a not-straightforward manner. How scummy do you find him? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:25 Holyflare wrote: He's too cocky at the moment so we'll see. Pretty towny though. Will check world cup or w/e tomorrow. Thanks for answering for another player. Why are you not disagreeing with this quote then seeing as apparently everything I've said is a misrepresentation and wrong but instead answering his intentions? Why does it not apply to you? Check World Cup before Day. Post what you think here. It's important. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:14 Vivax wrote: I picked SlOosh's post cause it interfered with my intent and was after all, a post that might or might not tell me he's scumreading me. It was one of those posts that have the potential to cause chaos while you try to get a productive discussion going, and people making those posts can say it was meant seriously or as a joke afterwards, whatever they prefer and is most comfortable for them in the moment they have to explain it. Didn't see this but whatever. Got my eye on you. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:25 kushm4sta wrote: HF case on vivax: 1. tryhard "longer paragraph" on sloosh's fake duel it wasn't even near a paragraph. Vivax looks like he was just doing his due diligence pressuring earlygame derp. plus your statement that it was the same as ritoky is not true, because fake dueling is closer to something very harmful to town like fake claiming. ritoky just said random shit. 2. he keeps talking about dueling you tomorrow/sidetracking analysis he mentioned dueling you only once in a very indirect way. how is he sidetracking analysis when all he did was answer your joke with another short joke.. you say : how much do you scumread me? he says : 5 much you say : do you have the guts to duel me that is sidetracking analysis?? The first sentence has already taken the edge away from the original analysis thus sidetracked it by not answering it and instead asking another question that has a more than obvious response for 30 minutes into a game. Fake duelling is so troll it's obvious and incomparable to fake claiming. Vivax posted why now and it's acceptable though so I'll just let him carry on because if he is mafia he won't be able to keep it up. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:31 Palmar wrote: I am 100% sure HF is mafia, but with the caveat that he might not be. I refuse to explain this. You just got shot n1 after afking as town and it was said you normally get shot n1 too. So why post the afk? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On July 30 2014 08:33 Holyflare wrote: You just got shot n1 after afking as town and it was said you normally get shot n1 too. So why post the afk? Stop posting please so the thread remains readable. | ||
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