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I fucking promise I won't go over a 2 page filter each cycle. Vivaldi - 4 seasons. | ||
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On July 22 2014 06:54 GlowingBear wrote: Can I /in again? It seems that the newbie game will not start soon... I'll keep Valsa choro from Villa-Lobos Yeah newbies sometimes take months to fill up. Depends on how many newbies there are. | ||
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Where do we rally to get this in the rules? "Scum needs to post in the scumthread their role and their partners" ex. I am the Godfather and my buddies are Vivax and raynpelikoneet. I am using 1 out of my 40 posts for this. I am blood serious. __________________________________________________________________________________ On July 18 2014 00:29 Chopin Liszt wrote: /in hydra Is this a smurf hydra? Or just an hydra? | ||
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I am planning to mass post. | ||
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Willing to tell us who you are? Or ares. With an extra s because plural. | ||
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I always like roleplayers. They are also always scum. | ||
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On July 23 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote: Hmm. I think I want you to live longer than D1 just for the "Mafia totes alive guis" mass PM. That, and my history of reading you is horrible. I have the vague idea that someone explained your meta to me in a recent game so I'll search for that. what? I meant I am town and you always read me town while I am always scum and you fail horrible and I laugh hard. | ||
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But the conversation is really dumb. | ||
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##vote CR I don't even know what he is doing. | ||
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Xatalos his answer might have been odd. But how can you say that even I am scummy? What kind of insane connection is that CR? Why isn't Xatalos scummy that can't reply to my awesome trick question??? Hmmmm? | ||
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Anyhoezels. Only 3 scummers. If you think scum makes a entrance post like Xatalos in this game as scum I don't know what to say... Unless you can proof he is going for the too scummy to be scum tactic. And I think Xatalos can't do that. So Xatalos confirmed town. | ||
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On July 23 2014 17:30 Teemursu wrote: What makes you think he wasn't serious about it? Did you read it? That's why. Xatalos isn't retarded you know. | ||
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Will be fun. | ||
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On July 23 2014 17:43 Teemursu wrote: I don't know him. People might not be retarded but they can still be mafia. I couldn't care less for any meta reads people have on each other in this game. To the point, if what you're saying is something you believe, what do you think of the people that are pushing him. who is town/mafia etc? I am just going to call all those people jubjubs. | ||
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On July 23 2014 18:04 Palmar wrote: Kosher might be mafia for not instasheeping my case Koshi flies solo this game. On July 23 2014 18:18 Chairman Ray wrote: What are the two posts you are referring to? I am talking only about the listpost. Not the entrance tbh. That one was legit bad. | ||
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On July 23 2014 18:36 HaruRH wrote: Because koshi makes these listposts too and he dont want to be seen as a hypocrite for criticising it since he will do it too All these people are already bad lynches for D1: HaruRH teemursu ObiWanShinobi Navillus GlowingBear kushm4sta batsnacks Damdred | ||
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On July 23 2014 18:21 Navillus wrote: Oh and I almost forgot, vivax what are your reads on kush, xata, obi, or teem. I don't care who or what combination you answer, it's just that you haven't posted much since the game began so I'd like to hear what you think. Totes town. | ||
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On July 23 2014 18:55 Chopin Liszt wrote: Are you fond of giving out townreads for generic mush, Koshi? Or are you joking at the moment? I can't tell. Those are bad lynches. I already know it. | ||
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On July 23 2014 18:56 Navillus wrote: Koshi I'm more interested why damdred and batsnacks are bad lynches, neither of them seem to have been contributing a ton so far, so this seems like a pretty early call for that. damdred started his first post with "lol" batsnacks coloured all the names in Xatalos his listpost. | ||
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On July 17 2014 10:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: [/b]8 Passengers. 2 are Prepared Passengers, that is, they have a one-use, nonrefundable life vest that will absorb 1 KP. What do you think about: The 2 Prepared Passengers should claim. There is no downside except scum knowing these 2 are not blue. But still. If they don't shoot these guys they are confirmed town forever. | ||
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On July 23 2014 19:05 Chairman Ray wrote: Is this list serious? Why did you not include Xatalos, who you said was confirmed town? Good job reading my posts. I actually forgot it. | ||
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I didn't see that. How sick is that. | ||
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On July 23 2014 19:21 Holyflare wrote: You really think mafia would have 5kp? Really? HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA noob | ||
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town will probably also have kp. So yeah. funzies. | ||
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On July 23 2014 19:54 Vivax wrote: Koshi do you dislike Palmar's case. I like Kush his case better. Palmar's case made me look at Navillus but I saw only town. | ||
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Who is rhyming? The unknown or Holyflare? | ||
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I open his filter. See 3 first posts. Town. | ||
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If you say it is Holyflare or the Unknown rhyming. | ||
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On July 23 2014 12:36 Navillus wrote: Just got here, my 2 cents on xatalos is that the list does look bad and I got the same weird feeling when he said that we shouldn't lynch kush because he's a good scum-player, especially after he posted: so people who will reveal themselves early shouldn't be lynched D1 and people who won't reveal themselves early shouldn't be lynched D1? That doesn't make sense and looks scummy to me because it sounds like forced reasons to lynch or not lynch. Also posting a list where like half the entries are saying nothing looks like an attempt to just generate content so for that I feel comfortable to ##Vote Xatalos Aside from him I'm very happy that Chopinliszt stopped with that rhyming stuff but I would put them much higher on my list of who to lynch this game unless they post as much as two other players would, it's going to be way too difficult to get a read if we have a small amount of content half from one person half another. 1) Doesn't try to hide in this post. 2) Give his reads/thoughts freely on the game. On July 23 2014 12:41 Navillus wrote: Re: Damdred I don't see anything particularly odd. His long post on Xatalos is the only thing that I would see as maybe indicative, I think often scum make long posts picking out a lot of pretty small stuff so they can look like they're contributing, but right now there's not much substantial to go on and xatalos has felt off to me with his pretty early defensiveness of other players. I don't see any reason to think Damdred is scum at the moment. 1) Doesn't try to hide in this post. 2) Give his reads/thoughts freely on the game. On July 23 2014 12:55 Navillus wrote: any reason that harurh is the placeholder? On July 23 2014 13:29 Navillus wrote: vayne you have a reason separate from what kush said? On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote: Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable. On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote. Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush? Asking questions is not scummy if you first provided your own opinion in the thread. It's called scumhunting. So what that he made 3 questionsi n seperate posts and then made 3 more questions in a new post. He also asked to consolidate in the last post so maybe therefore he is putting everything in 1 post. Who the fuck knows? It isn't scummy. On July 23 2014 18:13 Navillus wrote: Teem if If you're asking me what that post said about chopin I'm saying I want extra content out of the hydra because it's going to be a bitch to try to mix reads of two people and I will push their lynch if them being a hydra prevents me from getting a clear read on them. Palmar your post was a problem not a reason to lynch because you posted an intention, if you had followed through that would have made you look a lot scummier to me. I didn't threaten to lynch because it's one post that's not very readable with a day+ to go, I seriously doubt you would have considered that a plausible threat and I wouldn't have followed through without more scum-reads, I'm not gonna vote or threaten to vote everyone that I might like to be more active. Anyway I already posted my read of xatalos and since he hasn't posted anything since then that hasn't changed. On the other hand I just reread kush and for the second or third time and I am really getting a weird (read scummy) vibe off him. He defends xatalos multiple times from people posting reads very similar to what I got on my first read-through. + Show Spoiler [Weird Defenses] + On July 23 2014 08:29 kushm4sta wrote: I don't get why you don't like the logic in the first post. What would you do, automatically scumread me? the second point is a misrepresentation. xatalos' read on damdred seems no where near strong enough that he wants to lynch him. he was identifying some gut feelings, which we all have. so what's wrong with that? On July 23 2014 09:57 kushm4sta wrote: hi again! are you a girl? if yes, want to be my egirlfriend, if you are over 18? we can go on edates. we both share the interest of forum mafia so I think we probably have a lot in common. first paragraph u say it's best to automatically lynch everyone you think is good scum. Should xatalos have said "he's good scum SO LET"S LYNCH HIM!" and that would have been townie? second paragraph you are essentially arguing that since he has scum feels for damdred, he should have feels for every person in the game. Why does getting feels about 1 person mean tha the should have feels on everybody? ^glowingbear brings the exact thoughts I had and kush ignores him saying that he's not making the argument to lynch good scums early but that xata's own posts would suggest that then xata contradicts himself. I thought this contradiction was weird but kush doesn't seem to notice and later just hones in on what i saw as a much less contradictory statement by haru On July 23 2014 11:40 kushm4sta wrote: wtf do you expect a few hours into the game? ^this also seems weirdly defensive to me, Defending him isn't scummy but doing so that early and to different people with similar reads just feels too sure that he's right. On top of that he really hasn't pushed much, he voted haru which was kind of an extension of his defense of xata then he put down a placeholder vote on palmer. In fact I just looked at his votes and he literally makes no attempt to explain why he unvoted haru, trying to pull that vote off to a non-vote is really weird to me. None of this seems like serious efforts to find scum. So ##Vote: kushm4sta 1) Doesn't try to hide in this post. 2) Give his reads/thoughts freely on the game. ___________________________________________________ So why is Navillus not a good lynch: 1) He isn't hiding. 2) He gave his opinion on EVERYBODY and is actively playing. tldr: you all suck. Navillus is town. | ||
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On July 23 2014 20:39 Vivax wrote: It's cool that your opinion differs Koshi but I don't see why you spend so much talking about townreads and mechanics and the terrible idea of vets claiming when you don't have an own scumread to push behind it that warrants you taking the wind out of other peoples sails to push your own preference. ##unvote ##vote: Vivax Bite me. | ||
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On July 23 2014 20:44 Xatalos wrote: Koshi: Navillus has posted a ton of opinions, but don't you think they're pretty inconclusive and weak? Granted it's D1, but some of his posts feel like... "It could be X, but it could be Y" leaving his options as open as possible. What the fuck do you expect that early? At least he is doing something. In how many games is scum giving their opinion on literally everybody and anything that happens in the game as only one in the thread? Palmar / Vivax are probably scum this game. | ||
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Palmar hasn't done anything this game. Literally nothing. I wouldn't be too bothered with Palmar doing nothing but he made this shitty case on Navillus so he is on the table. I also know I somewhere said it wasn't shitty but now I think it is shitty because I read Navillus his filter. | ||
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On July 23 2014 20:51 Vivax wrote: This is a very hyperbole statement about navi and displays you're not critically reading his posts, I am sure you can back up that he's doing exactly that with quotes if you are indeed right. What are you even saying? | ||
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On July 23 2014 20:55 Vivax wrote: I'm saying that what you say isn't correct. He talks about post formatting and Xatalos, and replies to a guy asking him about someone else in the first posts you quoted as being townie and giving his thoughts freely. tl;dr: The reasons you use for reading him seem fake, and what you said in the last post I quoted is a gross exaggeration of what he's supposedly doing. When he was doing that. You were doing completely nothing. what he was doing > what you were doing. lynching him < lynching you It's math. | ||
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He didn't take into account any other post Navillus made. Navillus was at that point already asking mass questions. Navillus was not timid. Navillus was not hiding. Navillus gave his opinion and asked MULTIPLE questions in different posts later on. Everything Palmar said sounded correct if you look at that 1 post from Navillus. But if you open his filter you can clearly see that Palmar pulled the post out of its context. | ||
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And those questions were not made to be ignored. | ||
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On July 23 2014 21:05 Vivax wrote: Scum agenda equals simulating town agenda while opting for mislynches. It's logic. I like how you think that Koshi is harddefending his scumpartner here. Which you are implying in the last 2 posts you made. And when I say like. I mean hahahaha, You scum. | ||
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Good thinking. | ||
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When I voted you. | ||
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On July 23 2014 21:27 Vivax wrote: And the reason is that I'm not doing anything while navi is doing something? In that case, why not vote me earlier? Is this conversation really happening? *yawn* Wake me up when you got something interesting to say Vivax. | ||
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On July 23 2014 21:41 Vivax wrote: Koshi runs away with the tail between his legs. This proves that you didn't need the answer to that question. Which isn't a surprise because it was a completely stupid question. | ||
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On July 23 2014 21:46 Vivax wrote: It's not, I'm making inquiries about your scumread on me. You dropped that vote when I posted something about you, then said it was cause I didn't do anything while navi was doing something. I derped around when I sheeped Palmar's case, if derping around is the reason for your scumread on me, then it should have happened at that point. Why would I be following your every move every fucking second of this game? I was ignoring your useless ass but then you said something really stupid and I voted you. That's why it was then and not earlier. I would like to believe Town Vivax would understand that. As if you would ever scumread me for ignoring your useless ass, but now that I am voting you, you are trying to paint me scummy for ignoring your useless ass early. So yeah. you scum. | ||
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On July 23 2014 22:32 Vivax wrote: Lynch today: Koshi/navi/Xata/chopin Don't lynch: Everyone else. Ok. Not moving my vote ever. | ||
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On July 23 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote: I don't see it. The two posts you quoted and used to defended him based on him "not trying to hide anything" is because there's almost nothing to hide. Like, literally. His reads on CL and Damdred were just fluffy null there wasn't anything about him trying to figure out people's alignment. Xata was okay, but everyone already discussed it and the reasons. For some reason, repeating what everyone else has said about a post that happened almost six hours ago doesn't give me enough town cred for me to read that person as town. Especially when the post Palmar made a case about was in my opinion bad as well. You then go on to quoting post-Palmar's case stuff, that 1) aren't relevant 2) I can somewhat agree and helps me read Palmar. "I'm still leaving my options open about him, though". I want to hear from Koshi what he specifically liked about Navillus's posts pre-Palmar's case besides just saying "he's not hiding anything", which isn't enough considering how null Navillus's posts were. I also want to hear from CL about the switch from agreeing with Palmar's case on Navillus, voting on Navillus, and then asking everyone else why Navillus is being lynched and saying he has "potential" (while Nav hadn't even had time to respond yet). Navillus typed words when nobody was typing words. I give him a townread. The end. | ||
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On July 23 2014 18:45 Koshi wrote: All these people are already bad lynches for D1: HaruRH teemursu ObiWanShinobi Navillus GlowingBear kushm4sta batsnacks Damdred I need to keep this updated for endgame gloating. Bad lynches for D1: HaruRH teemursu ObiWanShinobi Navillus Xatalos kushm4sta batsnacks Damdred Really good lynches for D1: Vivax | ||
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On July 23 2014 23:17 Vivax wrote: I mean, if he thinks I'm not being blunt and only applies it to how I handle Koshi purely based on the wording of my post, but not to the way I handled navi, then something is not right. I feel like I was blunt enough in regard to what I think of navi, yet he only prefers to focus on the last half. I like how I gave "shitty" townreads on multiple people already. But you seem to only focus on the Navillus one. I mean it is annoying that I am ruining an easy misslynch here. But you should have been less obvious about it Vivax. | ||
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On July 23 2014 23:37 Xatalos wrote: Hmm... I'm starting to think that Vivax might be town after all. He's stayed pretty active and involved for a while now. LoL As if scum would give up in this setup. Are you for real? What kind of dumb logic is this Xatalos? | ||
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On July 23 2014 23:44 Xatalos wrote: Last time I saw Vivax as scum, he truly didn't seem to care about much of anything and was very lurky. But in this game, at least recently, he's maintained a good amount of activity and his posts have also felt reasonably constructive. I checked some of his past games earlier and it seems like he's considerably more active and involved as town - more fitting with his recent play, whereas earlier he was more apathetic. Vivax can care. We seen it in the last Storm mafia 2. Or when he replaced into some game as well. Anyway. Don't be fooled. | ||
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On July 23 2014 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: never seen kushmasta this town. Damdred makes a terrible post on Xatalos (because the post lacks any conclusion and/or follow up). Cava calls the post good (apparently because he has a townread on damdred he "guesses"). Haru says Xatalos is buddying and apparently that's scummy? Well it's not. Then Cava says he doesn't want to pick a side regarding Xatalos. But in fact he kinda has (see townread on damdred). CR has the best approach to Xatalos situation. It makes sense although i don't know if it makres Xatalos mafia but regardless it makes sense. All other shit on Xatalos is crap and idk why anyone thinks it's any good.. Navillus post badbad. ##vote: Navillus Teemursu why are you leaning scum on Xatalos? Palmar town. Shopping List is right. Teemursu gave a strange weak defence on Xatalos after calling him probably scum. Koshi what the fuck are you doing - except for the Vivax stuff? --- Cava could also be mafia, and damdred, and Haru. ugh.. that's too stupid. but Koshi for reals what the fuck? I don't know what to say rayn. Everything I said came out of my hearth. | ||
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On July 24 2014 00:35 VayneAuthority wrote: this is one of those funny games where the people "scumhunting" are more likely to be scum. with 3 mafia only you have to really shit on the thread and make it unreadable or you will just lose. It's time for you to shine! Who is scum Mr. VA. It has been too long since you had a good game. | ||
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I don't really know why he is on my townlist. | ||
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He is out of my sacred townlist. On July 23 2014 23:16 Koshi wrote: I need to keep this updated for endgame gloating. Bad lynches for D1: HaruRH teemursu Navillus Xatalos kushm4sta batsnacks Damdred Really good lynches for D1: Vivax ObiWanShinobi I apologize to all my fans that I have to put somebody from the townlist straight into the can lynch list. These are grave mistakes. | ||
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Because he was so happy to get a townread if he posted quickly. I do'nt know if I can go back on that. hmm | ||
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On July 24 2014 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: funny how bad you remember your scumread's posts-- no he is correct. | ||
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On July 24 2014 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi why can i be mafia? explain Because you rambled somewhat and then left. I was drawing you back. | ||
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You are not mafia because my magnificent brain says you are town. ezi | ||
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I am pretty sure I read Palmar his case. | ||
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This is all in the thread. | ||
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##vote: ObiwanShinobi Too much attitude. Vivax still scum. | ||
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##unvote ##vote: Vivax | ||
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Because he is certain scum. | ||
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Anyhoezels. I don't see anyreasons why Vivax can't be scum with Xatalos so you scrubs can have fun. | ||
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On July 24 2014 18:41 Vivax wrote: Good, let's see if he unlurks and suddenly has 300 % more activity. ##Vote Damdred What townie would ever think this? I am voting this guy. If he keeps lurking I can keep voting him. But if he starts posting we totally nailed a mafia lurker. | ||
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On July 24 2014 20:01 Vivax wrote: Is this a legit question or are you just gonna yell again if I answer it properly, cause then I cba to explain it to you. You are 100% scum for me Vivax. Nothing will ever change that. You think this guy is scum for not doing anything and being a ghost. But in your vote you already warn the thread you are going to keep voting him if he comes and does the opposite of what you are reading him scum for. | ||
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On July 24 2014 20:10 Xatalos wrote: I guess it's my own fault for not being terribly focused + a lot of people not really knowing me. Xatalos. This looks kinda bad: On July 24 2014 18:26 Xatalos wrote: I think most of the people on my wagon look pretty good. The most scummy vote is definitely batsnacks, since it was just an opportunistic bandwagon vote. If I had to bet on someone being scum on the wagon, it would be batsnacks (in big part thanks to that pretty apathetic&opportunistic vote). He's also not really paying attention to what he's reading since he pretty much started the issue of me "scumreading" VA >.> If you look a bit further than the actual wagon, you can see that Damdred has neatly set himself up for voting me without actually voting me yet. Maybe it's a bit hypocritical, considering my weak commitments so far, but this is the ultimate non-committing push on me (while still giving him the opportunity to vote for me later on): So those two are definitely the scummiest votes (or almost-votes) on me. You start with looking people at people who are voting you. But out of fucking nowhere you dig up an insane old case from HaruRH (who isn't voting you) and decide he is the most scummy person for making this case and you vote him. On July 24 2014 18:34 Xatalos wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Damdred Maybe batsnacks is just being really lazy. And by accident Damdred is also the guy that is getting momentum with Chopin and Vivax voting for him. Kinda coincidental. No? | ||
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another question: Xatalos (6) - Chairman Ray, GlowingBear, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, batsnacks Out of all these people you only have issues with Batsnacks? I am looking at those names and I am pretty sure I don't have a clue on 4 of them. And you are the one claiming having no grip on this game. While I already found 1 scum and 7 townreads. | ||
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On July 24 2014 20:17 Xatalos wrote: To be fair I voted for him first, not that it matters too much. And Damdred was almost voting for me anyways. On July 24 2014 18:34 Xatalos wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Damdred Maybe batsnacks is just being really lazy. On July 24 2014 18:41 Vivax wrote: Good, let's see if he unlurks and suddenly has 300 % more activity. ##Vote Damdred Oh yeah. You are right. Could be the entire scumteam though. | ||
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On July 24 2014 18:26 Xatalos wrote: I think most of the people on my wagon look pretty good. The most scummy vote is definitely batsnacks, since it was just an opportunistic bandwagon vote. If I had to bet on someone being scum on the wagon, it would be batsnacks (in big part thanks to that pretty apathetic&opportunistic vote). He's also not really paying attention to what he's reading since he pretty much started the issue of me "scumreading" VA >.> On July 24 2014 20:23 Xatalos wrote: Chairman Ray - his push on me isn't very good, but it seems reasonably genuine GlowingBear - dunno, not particularly leaning in any direction atm HaruRH - I think he's genuine enough, from looking at his filter earlier rayn - dunno why his vote is (still) on me, but he's felt reasonably towny this time around Navillus - dunno, I don't think I had any real issues with his vote earlier Why do they look good if you have 0 clues on them. | ||
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Is literally everybody reading scumVivax as town? | ||
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##vote Chopin Listzs I got to have my vote on this guy as well. Also highhh chance on scum. | ||
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On July 24 2014 20:37 Xatalos wrote: Not looking that good or bad is better than just looking bad. I didn't have any real issues with any of those votes besides the vote from batsnacks. On July 24 2014 09:57 batsnacks wrote: I'm going to sheep CR because I liked the case. Better than any case I could have made. ##Vote: xatalos Someone ask me questions I feel scummy. But make sure they're nice questions or I'll probably just ignore them. You say the case from CR is pretty genuine, why can't batsnacks not believe in the case? and tbh, that CR case on you looked pretty good. I mean, the joke in the start was enough to vote you if Vivax wasn't so damn scummy the entire game. | ||
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Pretty close to it. HF doing absolutely nothing is his preferred scumplay. He always has this cool excuse as well. 1) the one in survivor I forgot. 2) ran over with a car in a game he smurfed 3) Studies recently 4) Food poisoning now | ||
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On July 24 2014 20:55 Xatalos wrote: Apparently he's often bad/suspicious during D1 so maybe it will get better? I AM THE FUCKING BEST PLAYER IN THIS GAME BY FAR. | ||
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On July 24 2014 20:58 Chopin Liszt wrote: no, Koshi, you're behaving like a small, petulant brat. I don't even fucking know who you are. But you suck ass and are scum. Stop being terrible at the game. | ||
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On July 24 2014 00:57 Koshi wrote: Yeah, I could really lynch Cav as well. Damn. I fucking told him to be more friendly and buddy me in a previous game. He is out of my sacred townlist. I apologize to all my fans that I have to put somebody from the townlist straight into the can lynch list. These are grave mistakes. Bad lynches for D1: HaruRH teemursu Navillus kushm4sta batsnacks Damdred Palmar VayneAuthority raynpelikoneet GlowingBear Probably town but what can I do: Xatalos Special mention: Chairman Ray Really good lynches for D1: Vivax ObiWanShinobi Chopin Liszt ------ Town MVP after game = thx. I have a bad feeling Kush also has this list. Hmm. Crazy. | ||
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On July 24 2014 21:05 Xatalos wrote: You can stop repeating that Vivax is scum when he's not getting lynched anyway. Bad lynches for D1: HaruRH teemursu Navillus kushm4sta batsnacks Damdred Palmar VayneAuthority raynpelikoneet GlowingBear Special mention: Chairman Ray Really good lynches for D1: Vivax ObiWanShinobi Chopin Liszt Xatalos | ||
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On July 24 2014 21:15 Teemursu wrote: Koshi, can you make a case on Chopin? I have a bad gutfeel about him but that's mostly it. If you don't want to and instead keep repeating his name like you're doing with Vivax, I'll filter dive him later today but I'm probably not going to be convinced to vote on him. I'm agreeing a lot with your list a lot but some of your posting has been kind of shit. I kind of wish you could just explain some of your mafia reads better. No. He is one of the worst lynches on D1 tbh. Except when it is somebody roleplaying as marv. I could see BH roleplay as marv tbh. But I guess scumteam will take no risks and kill them. If they are alive D2. KILL EM. | ||
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He wants to post the seal picture. That is a good sign. Because as town even thinking about posting the seal picture is heathenious. If that is a word. It should be. | ||
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On July 24 2014 21:46 Chopin Liszt wrote: I updated this somewhat from memory. Which votes are wrong/missing? I would say around 7 on Vivax. | ||
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On July 24 2014 21:57 Vivax wrote: Cause there are good arguments for him being scum. I'm totally not biased here. I forgot them. Which ones? | ||
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Now he did promise me he would do better on D1. DAMDRED why do you PROMISE ME, KOSHI, RULES OF THE UNIVERSE, that you will play better on D1 and then play a D1 like this???? Probably worse than Storm 2. | ||
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If this ass scuker is marv than he would always vote first. ALWAYS. | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:03 Chopin Liszt wrote: You're making the ludicrous argument that all votes should be on one wagon. All the votes I pointed out are on people who won't get lynched today. Damdred could get lynched today. What's difficult to understand, Koshi? My vote isn't useless. It points where the scummers are for future days. | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:09 Chopin Liszt wrote: Have list: 1. HaruRH 2. Koshi 3. teemursu 4. Chopin Liszt 5. VayneAuthority 6. raynpelikoneet 7. ObiWanShinobi 8. Navillus 9. GlowingBear 10. kushm4sta 11. Chairman Ray 12. Vivax 13. Xatalos 14. batsnacks 15. Damdred 16. Palmar IF VIVAX IS THAT LITTLE TOWN HE IS FUCKING SCUM. THAT'S HOW IT GOES. DID YOU EVEN READ WORLD CUP??? HF fucking hosted it. | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:13 Teemursu wrote: I'm better at scumhunting. I'm pretty bad at forming towncircles/finding town. Just because someone isn't the towniest town doesn't warrant a lynch to me. I'm not switching to Damdred if I'm not convinced he's scum. Damdred is doing absolutely nothing just like he was doing absolutely nothing in Storm 2. Vivax knows that he did nothing in Storm 2. Still he pushes Damdred for doing nothing here. Vivax, What is the difference between Damdred in Storm 2 and here? | ||
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If all the sheepable people are voting for somebody that means that the people who they normally sheep are not doing their job. Now if everybody would have a scumread on Xatalos that wouldn't be a problem. But people LIKE VIVAX read Xatalos hardcore as town. But he doesn't do anything to prevent his lynch. Or tell the thread why Xatalos is town. | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:20 Teemursu wrote: Updates on vote counts would be nice. Why are we not getting them? You are supposed to read the thread. Chopin made a vote count. It looked pretty ok. | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:17 Vivax wrote: Wtf are you talking about. If you're so sure about his alignment then enlighten me, I'm not. See. I was actually lying about you reading him hardcore as town. But you don't say shit about it. How do yo uread Xatalos? | ||
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Now I blatantly lie about one of his own reads and he ignores it. | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:30 Vivax wrote: I'd say around the 70 %. I still have room for thought that he's just being cray cray as town. ##unvote ##vote: Vivax I will never change my vote. Never. | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote: Thing is, I'm not reading anyone that's voting Xata as strongly scum, which is making me paranoid that I'm mafiasiding if I vote with you/Xata/Damdred/Obi and I'm not so sure about Koshi and Vivax. This is probably really bad/idiotic/beginner-like, but it's my honest feel of paranoia. Right now I just want to go by my reads and vote on either Obi, or now Damdred, who I just went through and am pretty convinced that he's a good shot at finding mafia. No you are on the right track. Perfect. | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:32 Xatalos wrote: More information to help with night kill decisions. Ok you already soft claimed blue. If you are VT, NK wont fucking matter, because nobody will ever shoot you. So. Let's hear it which blue. | ||
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1 question: To me from that post you made it feels like you were keeping up with the thread but not posting. Is this feeling true? | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:40 Vivax wrote: Don't wanna generalize but I've seen mafia lynched for posts like these. Have you ever seen town be lycnhed for posts like those? | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:49 Damdred wrote: That feeling is false, the last time I visited the thread was when I told teem that I would look into his filter when I got to a computer. I spent the good chunk of my morning was spent catching up on the thread. Ok sexy. Please tell me more about this Vivax/Xatalos interaction please. I am very interested. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:00 GlowingBear wrote: You want him to role claim but he can't because he doesn't have a power role and if he claims he will be counter claimed, being lynched. I'm pretty sure you thought this and that you are fishing for a blue. Clarifying: having town!xatalos fake claiming you will probably get a legit counter claim to be shot at night, and you also get a mislynch. Kill koshi. Now! ##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi All of my w4ts. | ||
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Why doesn't he have a role??? WHAT? | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:06 GlowingBear wrote: I can't be more clear. A fake claim will probably receive a hard push from a blue. Easy night kill for mafia. You're pratically forcing someone to counter claim. Fuck this 3G. I don't want him to fakeclaim at all? I wan't to say what role pm he got. VT, Named VT, Blue | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:14 Vivax wrote: I want Koshi and Teemu to explain me the scum agenda behind GB's new read. He isn't scum. We can't do that. He is just horrible wrong and insane. GOOD JOB VIVAX. GOOD JOB. NICE. NICE TRAP. Can you explain what this GlowingBear is saying? | ||
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Vivax is laying out traps on how it is possible we don't understand what GlowingBear is saying. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:17 Xatalos wrote: Uh, what? Both to Koshi's vote and GB's vote. Tell us your role. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:17 Vivax wrote: Hey chopin get HF to look at the post from Teemu about the terrible spot and tell me if he's gonna scumread him off it, I'm curious. You know he did it 2 times already. What kind of dumb question is this? | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:18 GlowingBear wrote: How much time left? 1h 41m | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:20 Xatalos wrote: Sorry but no. If you want to lynch me for not telling, I don't know what to say. Xatalos. Tell us your fucking role. I am 100% town and I am 100% certain this is the best way to play this atm. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:22 Damdred wrote: Koshi if not Xatalos who is your two main lynches right now Vivax and Vivax But Xatalos is the lynch. He keeps soft claiming blue while if he was blue he could just say the name of the blue and scum wouldn't know what the role does. If he claims near the deadline it is too late. He can be lynched. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:27 Xatalos wrote: There's no point in claiming especially now. Maybe closer to the deadline. But now it would only help scum without probably even changing the situation that much. Where did Chopin, Palmar and rayn disappear to? Nobody cares about those baddies. If you claim near the end nobody will believe it because nobody will be able to cc it anyway. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CLAIM BABYSEALS | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:26 kushm4sta wrote: koshi stop pushing vivax right now please because he's not going to get lynched today. xatalos claim immediately. No Kush No. Vivax is fucking scum and needs to die. You know this to be true. Who else if not Xatalos? | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:36 Vivax wrote: The point is you and Koshi went apeshit over something that shouldn't have made you do that, since apparently it's obvious to you it doesn't make him scum. Koshi, Teemu, batsnacks went apeshit Vivax didn't go apeshit No other test subjects available. Conclusion: Vivax is scum. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:35 kushm4sta wrote: Koshi, are you mentally retarded right now? Because you would need to be to think vivax has a possibility of getting lynched today. You are just cluttering the thread with that opinion right now. JUST WATCH ME. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:41 Xatalos wrote: I'm a Passenger OR a Prepared Passenger. That should be enough information, although I think it's already too much. Happy? hahahahaha Why would you add named VT if you are a VT? To bait out 2 named VTs? Ok Xatalos is the lynch. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:44 VayneAuthority wrote: what happened to that palmar case? cant believe i read all that it was gibberish. god bless mornings. only got like 1 slightly stronger scumread out of 5000 pages VA please shed your smartness over this thread. And not like in the previous game because you were the reason I didn't shoot Kush N1 btw. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:44 kushm4sta wrote: that wasn't a claim xatalos. you said or. or is not a claim. say which you are with no equivocation. u have 1 more post to do it. Xatalos this ↑ I already typed something down for when you really claim. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:47 Xatalos wrote: Whatever. The damage is already done. I'm just PASSENGER (VT). I was trying to bait scum into shooting me at night but now it'll be impossible. If Xatalos is VT and he added named VT for funzies he is really really dumb. I try to not call people retarded but if you as town are making it possible for 2 named VTs to counterclaim you and get lynched I can't take you seriously. So Xatalos claimed named VT. | ||
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He baited scum to shoot him by claiming veteran and made it possible for 2 veterans to counterclaim him and let scum know what they are. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:51 Chopin Liszt wrote: Xata is pretty obviously town tbh. Mafia don't make these retarded, convoluted plays that make zero sense. Let's lynch Vivax. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:52 Chopin Liszt wrote: let's lynch Obiwan. kush is wrong. This Obiwan has zero drive. Obiwan is voting scum. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:52 VayneAuthority wrote: yea that game sucked in general got ritoky'd. I picked it up endgame like I usually do though, nobody would vote HF with me or anything tho. So who is scum or the best lynch out of Vivax/Damdred/Obiwan/Xatalos If you don't feel like going for 4 names. Just say Vivax is scum. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:57 Chopin Liszt wrote: Vivax has the joint longest filter in the game. These players are not usually mafia. If they are, I'm not punting on them Day 1. Not a chance. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE. He just does it to taunt me. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:57 Vivax wrote: The best thing is that in all of this Koshi has no real case behind him to use against me. He's literally just trying to lynch me by repeating the same thing over and over and over. So what is your case against me? You keep saying I am +70% scum. You haven't even gone so high on ANYBODY ELSE THIS GAME Yet you don't push me. At all. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:01 Teemursu wrote: i kind of want to lynxh obi, see him flip scum and c myself as town, but vivs eod was so freaking scummy that i feel like he is more likely mafia, lol,. koshi could chopin be mafia with.viv and thus not voting on him? i know its retarded to make aligbmet connection theoroes right now but i keep going from town to really unsure slash paranoid about him I already said they were scum together once and I can do it again. Also kush not wanting to vote chopin or vivax while scumreading them earlier makes him tje third. | ||
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Unvote Vote: Vivax LYNCH VIVAX YOU SCRUBS. I AM HIS ONLY SCUMREAD 70% AND HIGHER AND HE NEVER PUSHED ME. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:25 kushm4sta wrote: so koshi if you think navillus is scum why aren't you cool with voting him? or do you think it's much more likely for vivax to be scum? What are you fuxking reading???????, I got Navillus as confirmed town ages ago. | ||
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ARE YOU READING????????????????????????????????????? On July 25 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote: I already said they were scum together once and I can do it again. Also kush not wanting to vote chopin or vivax while scumreading them earlier makes him tje third. | ||
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HOW THE FUCK CAN THE DEADLINE GO FORWARD 20 MINUTES? ???? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? VIVAX IS NOW MODCONFIRMED TOWN OR I JUST FUCKIGN QUIT. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:52 Xatalos wrote: Never seen that happening before... Hopefully it didn't affect the result. Navillus wasn't a great lynch but it was better than me or Vivax. TOWN BECAUSE IF YOU DARE TO SAY THIS AS MAFIA YOU CAN GO FUCK YOURSELF | ||
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If you dare to insult town players after this monstrosity as scum you don't deserve any respect. Unless they are scumbuddies this is completely out of line. | ||
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If I was in this thread they would have had to vote Vivax or claim scum. Hosts ends this game 20 minutes before deadline and with a 5 minutes warning or something I don't even fucking know how much it was. Vivax is fucking Innocent Child. | ||
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On July 25 2014 01:04 GlowingBear wrote: I can't stand having people calling "ridiculous ideas" what is actually decent logic. You may believe that a vt would never fake claim, that's fine. But saying that it does not have decent reasoning, I give up. People rather say "oh this is not his meta" like you guys are inside Friends sitcom "HAHAHAHA THIS IS NOT LIKE JOEY LOLOLOLOLOL" GlowingBear. Bro, you played against me as scum. I had a 4 page filter there. Look at the other 5 games I played as scum. I all have 5-6 page fitlers in 3 days. SMB is the only exception. I am very unlikely scum here. Also, what you are saying about the blueclaim is not scummy in my eyes. It also happens in a lot of games. If you want to check look at World Cup mafia. I asked it there as well and nobody found it scummy. Nobody except you also find it scummy this time around. Please drop it or find something else. But atm you are saying I am scum for something only you find scummy while all others find it normal. | ||
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On July 25 2014 01:07 Vivax wrote: You're going down no matter how you read me now. Your entire day 1 push was a joke you should be ashamed of. If you're town I will be shocked. Literally shocked. If you are mafia I lost all respect for you. | ||
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On July 25 2014 01:09 Vivax wrote: But yeah, I agree that it wasn't correct from the host. Given the post-deadline votes it was still predictable I wouldn't get lynched over navi. In principium it was wrong but on the other hand it would be accurate to say that it didn't change much. I would have gotten you lynched 100% or I would have gotten reasoning out of all these randoms voting Navillus when it was 5 vs 4. | ||
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On July 25 2014 05:44 Chopin Liszt wrote: Chopin signs his posts No he doesn't you fuck. Why do you need to lie? | ||
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On July 25 2014 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: i know the other half is HF. Like i read the thread. I think the other half is marv and their posts sounded like marv's a while ago. I don't kinda spend time on smurfhunting but if marv has been calling me scum on N1 he is scum, totally. marv called me scum and I have a 10 page filter. I know he is scum. | ||
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On July 25 2014 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: you have been saying shit for like 8 pages of those 10 Koshi. there is a reason people read you scum, marv or not. that hurts. | ||
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On July 25 2014 07:11 Chopin Liszt wrote: /facepalm Please just start posting seals is this marv or hf? | ||
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On July 25 2014 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: koshi are you scum? No. Now tell me why you ask this again. | ||
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On July 25 2014 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: because you call me scum. and don't rescind the read. You done fucking nothing towards the lynch and then you come back with some retarded "oh lynch is over". So I get mad. And there is no reason to call you town. But humor me and tell me why I should call you town. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:57 Koshi wrote: ##Unvote: ##Vote: Vivax I am sheeping Holyflare/marv here. Everybody should sheep the 2 best players on TL. And how was this not the most obvious joke/lie/lets just fucking lynch Vivax thing ever. Marv/HF weren't pushing Vivax in the slightest. This is the third time Vivax takes something I said and twists it into something scummy. 1) I clearly said why Navillus was town and Palmars case bad. Vivax turns it into something scummy. 2) GlowingBears says something retarded and I am scummy for thinking it is retarded. 3) That ↑ ---- This on top of all the other retarded shit he says like "Koshi stopped pushing me after the lynch was over", he fucking pushes me for being right on Navillus and stopping to push him AFTER THE FUCKING LYNCH. And I can keep going on why Vivax is scum but hosts decided that as soon Vivax was not up for lynch to end the day within 10 minutes and 25 minutes early so w.e. | ||
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I am out of this game. I just can't read posts anymore and not get insanely mad at the retarded fucks not playing and now pissing me off. HF and rayn are just garbage. Vivax is shit. Mods are fucking pieces of shit to end the day 25 minutes early and give a 10 minute warning for it. | ||
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On July 25 2014 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: stfu Koshi. I don't even really think you are mafia so work with me okay? WHY WOULD I WORK WITH YOU, YOU DUMB RETARD? YOU CALL ME MAFIA OR SHIT EVERY 3 POSTS YOU MAKE. | ||
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On July 25 2014 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: you have been saying shit for like 8 pages of those 10 Koshi. there is a reason people read you scum, marv or not. | ||
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On July 25 2014 07:46 Chopin Liszt wrote: There's literally a post above the vivax case that contains all the quotes. How can you dismiss it as "little evidence". That just means YOU can't be bothered to read it in context. I honestly can't believe the attitude of some of the newer players om this site that think it's good to be sarcastic and twatish instead of actually talking things through. Utterly disgraceful. Are you this fucking terrible? | ||
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On July 25 2014 02:41 Vivax wrote: I'll just leave this here for you to muse on. Will add my own thoughts before the night ends for the ultimate dunk. On July 25 2014 03:00 Vivax wrote: - He called you scum quite confidently earlier on and then entirely stopped caring about you close to deadline. Even said something about sheeping you by voting me when that was nowhere your intention, also he tries to glorify his former scumread. - First he says something about your vote on Damdred being useless, later says Damdred had to step up like promised after I explained why Damdred was scum, he even said what he was doing was worse than in Storm. Later, when he has to push me, he totally says that what Damdred is doing isn't scummy when compared to Storm, says he doesn't see the difference. Change of opinion is obviously of practical value so he can use it to paint me scummy at the same time by claiming that there's nothing scummy about Damdred I'm pushing. - Then goes again with threatening Damdred and acting as if he was scummy. - When asked about lynch option the only option is me.No compromises, he had multiple options from earlier, but it had to be me, the drill sergeant, his former scumread chopin becomes the guy we all should sheep. - When he gets mad at you for not scumreading me, then it's like something he should be expecting anyway since he claims to have read both of us as scum. He'd only get mad if he didn't manage to convince you thinking you're a townie. My 20000 ¢ Ok explain to me why this case proves I am scum. Do it HF. | ||
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the other 50% is me jumping around calling marv scum for not voting where his mouth is (Obiwan or damdred). I already forgot where his vote was tbh. But I think not there. Or by constantly changing my read on marv. How does nay of these 2 things make me scum? | ||
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There wasn't a case on Navillus except the one from Palmar that I fucking destroyed. Like how the fuck can Navillus get lynched out of fucking nowhere? I am traveling home and suddenly Navillus gets marv, Xatalos and Vivax on him. With fucking Kush & VA already on him. And then the fucking hosts decides that is the perfect time to give a 10 minute warning the game is over and 3 more retards vote Navillus without thinking twice. Like... There hasn't been a single case on Navillus since the one from Palmar that I destroyed but w.e let's lynch this guy. Even though he made a couple big posts since then that looked extremely town. Yeah wait, I already said he was 100% town. No need to repeat this shit for the shitters. But the funny part is. I AM THE ONE GETTING THE MOST FLAK FROM SHITTERS LIKE VIVAX BECAUSE NAVILLUS FLIPPED TOWN. BECAUSE I DEFENDED NAVILLUS AND WAS RIGHT. HOW THE LIVING FUCK?? HOW???? DID I MISS ALL THE FUCKING CASES ON NAVILLUS OR SOMETHING? WHERE ARE THEY? | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:07 Chopin Liszt wrote: Well i didn't know your sheeping thing was a joke when i read through because i assumed it was related to you sheeping chopin on his reasoning for xata being probably town so to me it looked like you were sheeping your scum reads reasoning for a person being town. 1) It also implies that you are switching your reads to opportunistically bolster your attack on vivax and that when you've done that you later renege on this switch to leave your options open a la damd scum read. Finally you berate chopin for not scum reading vivax but you had us as your scum read too which implied you knew we were town. All 3 of those things are mafia things. (well 2 if you imply your sheep thing was a joke) 1) What reads? I fucking didn't change a single read except marv. And I am pretty sure I didn't know it was marv till he did the sucking asshole thing. And he had a 4 page filter when he did that. Somewhere there I gave him a bit more space. Even called him a bad lynch right after I put him as scum in my list. Still it is 1 person I swap around on a bit. It's not scummy at fucking all. And you don't know shit. Also marv is calling me fucking town. Like full green town. Where do you Mr. Fucking AFK the entire game go against your other hydra head? Siding with marv his very slight townread against his fucking full green townread. 2) So town never berates a scumread for not wanting to lynch another scumread? It's impossbile to do or something? AND 1+2) I ONLY DID THIS WITH MARV. BECAUSE HE IS MARV. So the entire case stands with I talk to marv as if he is scum and I talk to marv as if he is town. VERY FUCKING SCUMMY. | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: hey you were travelling, not around. SCUM! i just fucking wanted to do this because fuck you Koshi. what is the point of this rayn? explain. | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: you did the same thing. and it was as bad as my post. i just wanted to fuck with you so you could see how fucking awful you are. How did I do the same thing? | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:19 Teemursu wrote: Rayn can you explain why you think CL is town? It doesn't matter. CL can't be lynched. You need to lynch him D3 if he is still alive. Then just lynch him and don't think twice. With 700nk marv always dies. If you entertain the idea of marv being scum. Look at the ideas he pushed in the thread. Like the Xatalos townread because Xatalos claimed veteran to bait a scumshot. Look at the list he made with his scumreads. And for the love of God ignore everything Holyflare posts because that guy probably shit and puked his brains out. He is 100% retarded and thinks he can bully newbies while not even reading the thread. | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: the red posts koshi. go read the fucking red posts in your filter. You were afk for 15 hours before the lynch and then right after the lynch came in with "oh lynch is over" and I can't get mad. Since then you called me shit & scum or the 2 combined 3 times now. And you still have no grisp on this game even though you have 11 pages of filter. Like I am not kidding I will probably not speak to you anymore if you are scum this game. Because this isn't a game anymore. Not after the hosts (read Sentinel each time) decided to shit on everything and everybody and just change the deadline because why the fuck not. | ||
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On July 24 2014 21:05 Koshi wrote: Bad lynches for D1: HaruRH teemursu Navillus kushm4sta batsnacks Damdred Palmar VayneAuthority raynpelikoneet GlowingBear Special mention: Chairman Ray Really good lynches for D1: Vivax ObiWanShinobi Chopin Liszt Xatalos Like this list is so fucking gold it is scary. And I had to work with the shitters D1 like Palmar/rayn/VA. GB also dumped some retardation in the thread endgame but what can I do? Vivax has lied this game so many times. It is scary. And he says so much dumb shit. Obiwan is his cocky self and refuses to solve this game. Somewhere he changed his play and became this new thing. Out of all people he is probably the best plynch and that means a lot if you have the D1 shitters like Palmar/rayn/VA. Xatalos has done nothing this game, had most of the votes on him the entire game and then 3h before the lynch. (less because hosts decided to fuck us in the ass) to start softclaiming blue and do nothing else. Then 2 hours before the lynch he claims veteran because he wants to get shot by scum. And then a bit later he claims he was actually just a VT. And in the 3 hours before the lynch he did absolutely nothing except vote Navillus because WHO THE FUCK KNOWS. Chopin Liszt Isn't off this list till he solves the game. Which is how we always approach marv. Which is why we can talk to him as if he is town. Because he most likely is. Unless he doesn't solve the game. This time he has a retardation handicap. Which will make it really hard for him to be taken serious if he survives the night. But who do we lynch? NAVILLUS. WHO COULDN'T be more town if he tried. LIKE WHERE ARE THE CASES ON NAVILLUS? READ HIS FUCKING FILTER. SO FUCKING TOWN EXCEPT ONE POST. WHICH IS THE ONLY POST ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT. | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:46 Chopin Liszt wrote: You're so fucking rude it's actually depressing. I spent so much of my time actually keeping up with the thread so that my reads would be up to date when i cane back and I'm posting logical shit based on events in this game and my opinions on them and you denounce everything i say as useless trash and you should just ignore me? Same pretty much goes to teemersu who ignores every question i throw at him and says i shouldn't even be playing. So bm. Let me know when someone actually wants to play mafia in this thread. And both Teemu and me spend even more time than you and you fucking shit on me while you were back siding with Vivax. And then you are rude towards Teemu saying he should be "respecting vets". And I think only then I came after you. Maybe a bit earlier because you are like Teemu said completely fucking useless. | ||
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Like so far above. SO FUCKING FAR ABOVE. Because while you think I was scumreading Damdred. I always defended him. I defended him against marv. Against Vivax. I somewhat "pressured" him to get him to contribute hence the "Do something or I will keep this vote on you" or the "you promised me you would do more on D1 in Storm" Shit like that. Like. Even if Vivax/Obiwan/Marv/Xatalos are also all town I still am so fucking far above you people if Damdred is town. | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum. On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town. | ||
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So the second one is right? you do realize you posted the first version? | ||
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5th time you call me trash and scum. | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum. This is why I said "you meant town" because this makes more sense to me. And you called me scum for. On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town. | ||
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Which one is it? This is the one you posted: On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum. This is why I said "you meant town" because this makes more sense to me. And you called me scum for. On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town. | ||
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Which one is it? This is the one you posted: On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum. This is why I said "you meant town" because this makes more sense to me. And you called me scum for. On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town. | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum. On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: *martyrs On July 25 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: You meant town On July 25 2014 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: haha are chopin and koshi mafia? GB can you get ly logic in my post? | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum. On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: *martyrs On July 25 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: You meant town On July 25 2014 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: haha are chopin and koshi mafia? GB can you get ly logic in my post? | ||
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On July 25 2014 09:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: and no, i won't cut it out because because.... Koshi is being a dick towards me, so i can - and imo am allowed to return the favor. He is town but i want him to feel how fucking wrong he is in this game. Like so fucking wrong! go try to lynch me Koshi! You do realize I got you as town this entire game right? In every listpost I made. Except once when you returned to the thread after 15h right after the lynch and I was mad. Since then you called me mafia or shit numerous times. The last time you called mafia I am trying to let you see what I meant but you decide to not read it. tomorrow I guess. | ||
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On July 25 2014 09:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah i concede i have not read the thread pretty well. nor the posts. don't have enough time. You called me scum for not understanding what you said. I am trying to explain it. We will try tomorrow. Let it be known I have you as town because you never done this as scum. Let it also be known I don't like you. Also permanent status. | ||
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GB is town except when all maryrs and shit are scum. isn't this more logical GB is town except when all maryrs and shit are town. (Because that would make it possible GB is scum) Like... This discussion is completely retarded but rayn is scumreading me for saying it should be option 2. Maybe I don't understand the word unless or something. | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum. On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: *martyrs On July 25 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: You meant town On July 25 2014 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: haha are chopin and koshi mafia? GB can you get ly logic in my post? | ||
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On July 23 2014 20:36 Koshi wrote: 1) Doesn't try to hide in this post. 2) Give his reads/thoughts freely on the game. 1) Doesn't try to hide in this post. 2) Give his reads/thoughts freely on the game. Asking questions is not scummy if you first provided your own opinion in the thread. It's called scumhunting. So what that he made 3 questionsi n seperate posts and then made 3 more questions in a new post. He also asked to consolidate in the last post so maybe therefore he is putting everything in 1 post. Who the fuck knows? It isn't scummy. 1) Doesn't try to hide in this post. 2) Give his reads/thoughts freely on the game. ___________________________________________________ So why is Navillus not a good lynch: 1) He isn't hiding. 2) He gave his opinion on EVERYBODY and is actively playing. tldr: you all suck. Navillus is town. On July 23 2014 20:39 Vivax wrote: It's cool that your opinion differs Koshi but I don't see why you spend so much talking about townreads and mechanics and the terrible idea of vets claiming when you don't have an own scumread to push behind it that warrants you taking the wind out of other peoples sails to push your own preference. This is where it all started. Here do you see why I am actually gold in this game and why Vivax is trash or scum. Somewhere you would like to think Vivax wouldn't be so obnoxious right? And I keep telling you people that Vivax is a liar this game. I already gave you 3 examples. If you didn't read them, look them up. Or take my word. I don't know if he does this as town but it isn't very townie. The last point on why Vivax is scum is that he tries to trap me into saying things that prove me scum. Now this could be comming from a townie, it also sounds pretty townie to do it, but I can just feel it in my bones that it is not coming from a townie and that the true intention is to let me say something I don't want to say. It is not a trap that a scummer would fall in. It is the kind of trap that is sneaky and let's you say something that you as townie clearly aren't thinking and therefore shouldn't say. I feel like Vivax knows this while asking these trap questions. It is hard to explain. Again, can it be that town Vivax plays like this? Maybe, but I doubt it. And maybe my 4th and last point is that I know that Vivax is wrong about me. And on top of that Teemu and I are connecting so fucking hard that I can only see him be wrong on him as well. Also, so many people see that I am obvious town, why is Vivax not accepting this? Why does somebody like Vivax thinks two scummers are just pushing him like this? It just feels all to wrong to me. Too wrong to be town Vivax. Oh, and a really last point. He says so much dumb shit. My eyebrows went up with at least 5 posts of him. Maybe more. Like not this guy is town and he said something dumb. More like: "I can't believe Vivax is town and makes this post." I will end all this with me acknowledging Vivax has a big filter and that that can be used to argument he isn't scum. Tldr: Why Koshi is town, and has been pushing Vivax: Koshi activilly tried to steer town away from a Navillus lynch. Vivax bashes him for it. Koshi votes Vivax and never let's go. Then some other stuff happened. But Navillus the obvious townie got lynched anyway. And Sentinel alone is to blame. I am 100% sure I would have gotten Obiwan lynched if I couldn't get more votes on Vivax within the first 10 minutes of the 20 minutes stolen from us by the host. I don't care how many votes Navillus in the end had. I tell you with 100% certainty he would not be lynched with 20 more minutes. No, I am 80% certain. It all kinda depends on how scum marv is and on how town Obiwan is I think. I will not scream that Vivax or anybody else is confirmed town anymore by actions by this host. But let it be known that the host lynched Navillus and that he is responsible for denieing the information of a Vivax/Obiwan vote switch. I now completely calmed down. I have never been so mad in this game as I was after that lynch yesterday. I must say that I somewhere respect and am thankful to Sentinel for not modkilling me. I think I might go look for a selfban endgame. But the blind rage I felt after the lynch. And it kept going on till I went to bed. I never felt it before. Pretty epic experience now that I look back on it. Now this game is tainted for me. Just like Noire was tainted. I still have this superupset feeling so maybe I can still care in this game. Maybe I will get shot. If scum has mercy on my soul. 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On July 25 2014 21:08 Vivax wrote: I like how Koshi said that he would have tried to steer the wagon to Obi if it wasn't for the early end, but in the final scum Obi is among the guy he would shoot, not lynch. How am I supposed to understand that conclusion. I know in what mindset I was yesterday. Navillus was obvious town on D1. I was 100% certain on it. I had a lot of people in my townlist but I was 100% on Navillus. If anybody would have talked about him at all in the last 10 hours going to the lynch I would have said it. But nobody talked about him. It was all Damdred/Obiwan. But ofc then suddenly......... Obiwan isn't. He has a 6 page filter but if you read it there is nothing in it. He stopped caring about solving this game or is scum. I know I would have lynched him over Damdred yesterday. I know if marv is town he would have followed me. I am sure I could strongarm a couple more people into doing that. I am sure about that. I removed Obiwan out of final 5 for going after rayn when he came back just like I did. But for vigi shot he is the best call tonight. If he flips town and goes crying about losing games or getting lynched I am going to flame him so hard. w.e VA just did something that is 100% his scum meta. Which is coming into the game with a listpost. Trying to gain cred and put himself to the frontline. I do like he is playing, don't get me wrong, but his excuses around the Navillus lynch also sat a bit wrong with me. Anyway, VA showed that he wants to play. Force him to play tomorrow. I have to have you as scum Vivax. Because you are scum or shit. That's the reason. I gave all the reasoning to why you are shit. I had like 5 points or something. batsnacks is meh. He is a pretty balls out scum. So him playing balls out is not a good reason to call him town. So there is no reason to call him town. GlowingBear shouldn't be forgotten btw. Pressure him into giving more reads. | ||
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On July 25 2014 21:28 Vivax wrote: The because you are scum or shit argument is bad. You either believe I'm scum or you believe I'm shit, and if you believe I'm shit then you shouldn't push me like an idiot cause you will end up lynching a townie. The way you try to put simply reads as "I don't care what you are just die", and if that's what you think then you deserve to be lynched cause it's not a townie mindset. If you really wanted to lynch Obi Wan so badly you had the chance to help me and chopin move the votes onto him, and try to persuade kush and Vayne, but you didn't, which is why you are to be treated as a guy who didn't want to lynch him, but just me. ... How obvious was it that I wasn't here? I was traveling home. AGAIN VIVAX LIES AND MANIPULATES EVIDENCE. On July 25 2014 21:25 Xatalos wrote: "Being shit" isn't really a great reason to lynch someone, Koshi... It's the best reason. It hasn't the highest scumrate seemingly, but it is a very good reason to lynch somebody. Entire thread says Navillus is scum because Palmar typed shit. I made a case on why Navillus is town and what Palmar said was out of context. Vivax gives me shit for stearing the entire town in the right direction while not disagreeing with my case. But the kicker is that after Navillus flips green Vivax makes another case on me for being right. So he is shit or scum. It's 50/50 at least. Even with that filter. Look at how shit Vivax is. | ||
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On July 25 2014 22:38 Xatalos wrote: I have a hard time believing that those would be the kills. But if that really happened, I guess there would be probably scum infiltrated among my better townreads. I am asking to use Vivax his filter. | ||
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On July 25 2014 22:50 Xatalos wrote: SC2 Mafia is always kind of random  As for your question, Koshi... I'm not really sure what you're looking for. If we assume that such a situation would occur, then naturally Vivax would look worse for it, but would he really do that as scum? It's just a WIFOM bomb that's not really worth considering atm. marv gave his 100% townread on me. He has never been wrong. I am telling you Teemu is town. Could I be wrong? Sure. It is not a WIFOM bomb. It's very likely to be true that Koshi is town, and to an extent Teemu. You should start putting these pieces together. But I see you got a strong townread on Vivax. Oh well. You could be right. But start looking at scum in VA/Batsnacks/Obiwan/GlowingBear then. Because you are not doing it. And you should be. Well, you looked into batsnacks. Good for you. | ||
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On July 25 2014 23:02 Vivax wrote: Like, last time I was accusing you of forgetting about chopin you pointed us to a post where you said we're both scum together. Now that he townreads you everyone should listen to him. Totally legit reasoning there. Let it be known you have been doing the same thing to me I did on D1. Realize it. | ||
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On July 25 2014 23:04 Xatalos wrote: batsnacks and ObiWan could well be scum. GB I think is town. Not sure about VA but someone mentioned that he likes to make listposts as scum so maybe he actually is scum? Low activity and generally being pretty unhelpful don't really make him scum though. I did it. He did so in SMB mafia. I will look it up. On January 22 2014 07:35 VayneAuthority wrote: Thoughts before I die Oatmaster - Playing to his town meta where he has no idea what's going on and posts nonsensical things that are just flat out wrong. Defended Toad significantly before the town flip. Has voted sn0_man every single day and they have had extensive arguments, safe to say they aren't on the same scum team. Would not lynch tomorrow. 3/10 Cephiro - Has tunneled Mig for most of the game, considerable banter between him and mig most likely not on the same scumteam. Fairly inactive but raises good points for the most part when he does post. Coinflip lynch, wouldn't be surprised if mafia tries to push this for tomorrow if he isn't scum. 5/10 sn0_man - large activity to start when he was being accused, has spent most of the game defending himself. Has been very inactive since, particularly when toad was being lynched and he was the counter wagon. Has argued with oats significantly, scumreads are oats and skanjab (dunno who third is) I have a theory that I will expand upon in the skanjab filter, very likely scum here. 8/10 Koshi - playing to his town meta where he very unsure of things and doesn't play quite as well as he does scum where he will usually sound more confident. On the flip side, his filter is much smaller then I would expect for town koshi, but this has been a largely inactive game so that is accounted for. Has made a case on mig in detail, not really sure what his thoughts are at besides that. bad lynch for tomorrow 3/10 Rayn - Probably my biggest ? at this point in the game. He has played extremely anti-town in hindsight, but pro-town on a timeline. I feel like this is his town meta; but it isn't that clear cut in his case as he would bus his own team if they are doing scummy things. With town doing the scummy things, it paves the way for an easy game for him as scum. So the big question here is he just having a bad game or he is laughing in his QT right now? Pretty much a coinflip lynch in my mind. 5/10 Hopeless - claimed veteran, pretty much his claim to fame in why he is still present in this game. I thought he was too active to be scum but then some one showed me that he has never been pressured that much as scum before so that could have prompted his large filter. Regardless, it is mylo tomorrow and everyone needs to claim to figure out if having a veteran makes sense or not. Until then, it is hard to discern what alignment he is except for giving him the benefit of the doubt. ??/10 skanjab1s - His scum targets and reasoning rarely make sense and he has weird responses to questions that prompt me to think "mafia." There is also this weird dichotomy wher sn0 and skanjab have been silently soft pushing each other the entire game but with little/bad reasoning. Would not be surprised here if they are both scum together and throwing in a bus with their other reads. Lynch this guy or sn0 tomorrow imo. 8/10 Mig - Doesn't feel like scum but doesn't feel like town either. Snippy with Cephiro so hard to believe they are scum together. Defended Toad and didn't give up on trying to save him is a good thing to have on his resume. Problem is I fail to see much scumhunting or original content in his filter, a lot of defending and a lot of null material. Dislike how much he repeats that he himself is playing to his town meta as if it means anything coming from the own person. Despite these flaws, he is not nearly on my "would kill at mylo" list. 3/10 Basically kill sn0 and skanjab and toss in some one controlling the thread as the third, that is my best guess at this point. Would have loved to post this closer to deadline but won't be around, GL if I am dead. Maybe this is different. I also remember him doing it in a game in which he roleplayed to have lost his memory. He was town that game. and it were just names in that game. No reasoning. | ||
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On July 26 2014 00:45 Vivax wrote: So, was that push all about making me a more unlikely target or do you really still think I'm scum and genuinely pissed. I am genuinely pissed. and I really read you scum for reasons given. Just lucky you got this insane filter. | ||
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On July 26 2014 00:46 Teemursu wrote: Anyone CCing Koshi or Haru? Haru might be a lie... Maybe he is blue. People shouldn't CC. I am just saying it because I feel like it is smart to say it already. | ||
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On July 26 2014 00:46 Chopin Liszt wrote: I also have a vest. Chopin Ok. Now people are allowed to start CCing. | ||
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On July 26 2014 00:47 Vivax wrote: Well you couldn't be more wrong, and I'm the guy who should be pissed cause your push was serious bullshit. And your isn't. You have 16 pages of filter. How many are calling me scum? | ||
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On July 26 2014 00:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm here, sorta. please help town solve the game tomorrow. No bullshit. No arrogance. Just solid scumhunting. Thank you. | ||
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On July 26 2014 00:59 GlowingBear wrote: We should lynch Vivax, Xatalos and maybe Teemu You are insane. | ||
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Now that Koshi and Teemu are flipped town on D2. What is left in Vivax his filter. | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:26 Chopin Liszt wrote: ##Vote: Vivax TEARS OF JOY | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:28 Teemursu wrote: Good thing you didn't give up and modkill yourself yet, eh? Life is beautiful. | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:34 Chopin Liszt wrote: No-one will vote me because I am town. So I don't understand what you're doing here. ##unvote | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:39 Vivax wrote: I wanna know if Obi shot rayn so I don't have to go through the pain of sifting through his filter. he didn't. he said so. | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'll scumhunt when I get a hold of a computer. Parsing filters on a Kindle is kinda tough. Please do. You really didn't do much yet. I really think you might be lynched if you keep this up. Make something bug and pretty with a lot of colors. | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote: And no I didn't shoot rayn. I pushed him for not giving a damn about the lynch and he called me a fucking asshole.  Yeah I townreaded you for that. The pushing part. Still. Need some epic scumhunting from you. Colors, cases and all other pretty things. | ||
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Yeah. Only one left with the balls and he knows rayn. He had him as null in his reads post. Would be extremely skillful. | ||
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On July 26 2014 03:35 VayneAuthority wrote: medic shouldnt bother saving me or anything btw i only have 1 shot. better to keep marv or vivax or koshi alive they are most likely all town medic is ded. | ||
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On July 26 2014 04:19 GlowingBear wrote: Yes. Palmar probably died because mafia thought he was blue. Turns out he was prepared passenger. 1 remaining, 2 alive people lying. One is probably mafia IMO. That's what I want to discuss. To your initial question. It would be somewhat strange for scum to claim a role that is easily counterclaimed no? Marv also already said he wasn't a prepared passenger. So at this point I am the only prepared passenger claiming. Do you think marv is scum for claiming prepared passenger during the resolution period? | ||
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On July 26 2014 04:43 GlowingBear wrote: Counter claiming Prepared Passenger isn't easy because it is not an unique role. Example: if I claim I'm prepared passenger, the second one can believe it because he doesn't actually know who is the second prepared passenger. Therefore, no counter claims. The reality changes when palmar is dead and he is the unclaimed prepared passenger. I'm pretty sure mafia shot him believing he was blue. I thought he was blue. But then he was a prepared passenger (unprepared for n1 lol), and it's really a good information to scum hunt IMO. I don't believe mafia was expecting to hit a roled vt. GlowingBear That's all fun and all. But do you think marv is scum. He claimed prepared passenger. After Palmar got shot he unclaimed it. | ||
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On July 26 2014 04:46 GlowingBear wrote: Btw Xatalos claimed he was prepared passenger before lynch1. Analysing rayn's filter and discussing if mafia would've fake claimed roled vt and if so, who's the mafia guy, you or Xaralos. I think that will lead us to mafia. Xatalos unclaimed prepared passenger before the lynch. At this point I am the only one claiming prepared passenger. So you don't think marv is scum for claiming prepared passenger during the resolution period? | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:41 Xatalos wrote: I'm a Passenger OR a Prepared Passenger. That should be enough information, although I think it's already too much. Happy? On July 24 2014 23:47 Xatalos wrote: Whatever. The damage is already done. I'm just PASSENGER (VT). I was trying to bait scum into shooting me at night but now it'll be impossible. | ||
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On July 26 2014 04:52 GlowingBear wrote: WUT???? I'm sorry, then. I though I've read he was prepared passenger. It leaves it only to you. >] Unclaim it or I'm going to vote you No. I am the second prepared passenger. On July 26 2014 03:19 GlowingBear wrote: Why are we not discussing people who claimed prepared passenger? Anything else you want to discuss on this subject? | ||
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On July 26 2014 05:00 GlowingBear wrote: Yes. If you are the second one, what so you think of marv's moves? I voted him at the start of the day for it. I think it is strange he did it thinking nobody would ever cc and then scum would be panicking during N2. | ||
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On July 26 2014 05:06 GlowingBear wrote: What about their previous posts? What about what you think of Xatalos? GB. Why exactly are you asking me these questions? | ||
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On July 26 2014 05:23 GlowingBear wrote: Gotta read more to say that with less doubt but if I had to choose right now it would be Chopin, Vivax and Xatalos You just said this about marv: On July 26 2014 04:47 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not sure because his claim was weird but I've got a town feel from his earlier posts. I don't have enough analysis to draw a line here. My guess still is on Xatalos here. | ||
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On July 26 2014 05:24 GlowingBear wrote: Answer me and I'll answer you. If I tell you now my purpose will not be fulfilled marv, looks like town marv but I disliked the Navillus lynch. On July 24 2014 22:09 Chopin Liszt wrote: Have list: 1. HaruRH 2. Koshi 3. teemursu 4. Chopin Liszt 5. VayneAuthority 6. raynpelikoneet 7. ObiWanShinobi 8. Navillus 9. GlowingBear 10. kushm4sta 11. Chairman Ray 12. Vivax 13. Xatalos 14. batsnacks 15. Damdred 16. Palmar If we were looking at a scumteam of rayn/marv/x I think that with people like Obiwan, batsnacks & Damdred being town marv easily could be scum. scum only needs 2 misslynches and they win basically. It would mean 6 townies shot and game over. The kill on ray, changes things around obviously but that was not thanks to marv at all. So yeah. I am a bit wary of marv. Holyflare easily could be mafia with how he acted in here last night. That was atrocious. ------------ Xatalos I have talked so much about already... marv is hard core protecting him anyway. So I would always lynch marv before Xatalos now. The biggest issue I have with Xatalos is that he never seems to think further than the first step/idea. | ||
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On July 26 2014 05:50 GlowingBear wrote: I thought it could be a possibility, I don't know exactly why. I think I just wanted to make sure you're townie. fair enough. Why do you think Vivax and Teemu are scum together? | ||
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On July 26 2014 03:22 VayneAuthority wrote: shot rayn, reminded me of ## mafia Ugh. So far us lynching Vivax... | ||
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On July 26 2014 06:21 Chairman Ray wrote: Can you and Vayne confirm for us if there is a scum vig? Why is this important bro? | ||
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On July 26 2014 06:27 Xatalos wrote: Somehow I'm having difficulty believing that you're a self-aware Miller as well as a town-aligned Vigilante. Could it be a play to get VA lynched before yourself? Feels pretty odd though. Dude... You think he is scum because he added self aware miller to his counterclaim or because he coutnerclaimed and you believe VA is more likely? | ||
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On July 26 2014 06:33 Xatalos wrote: Honestly I'm not overly confident in believing either batsnacks' or VA's claim in this situation. I think batsnacks is more likely scum though. ##Unvote ##Vote batsnacks Why? | ||
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On July 26 2014 07:05 Xatalos wrote: Plus it would make a ton of sense for scum to claim that since even if someone got a redcheck on him last night, it wouldn't mean anything. With so many unique roles there might be a mechanism like miller to make things messier for town. It is quite impossible that scum has a *miller* role. So I don't know if batsnacks is so genious to just pull out a miller claim as scum. Sounds a bit too clever. | ||
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On July 26 2014 07:31 GlowingBear wrote: Vayne could be trying to take a nightshot from the actual vigi. Actual vigi claims and fucks vayne's strategy. I would say that is a really dumb idea but marv did the same thing so w.e | ||
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Also read Kush filter: On July 25 2014 15:01 kushm4sta wrote: right now im afraid chopin/rayn might be scummy but i really dont want to read their long ass filter :'( | ||
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I admit I had them as town when I thought it over. But they were the last I added in the list. | ||
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On July 26 2014 09:11 Xatalos wrote: Ok, I think CR is town. That's a post with such townish attitude of considering different options. Could you quote/link me where VA made similar claims as scum? Literally every scumgame he played in. | ||
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VA claimed Hero. SMB Mini Mafia Mafia Goon VA claimed RB on N1 and scum didn't even have a RB Golden Sun Mafia Mafia 2-shot Vigilante Also claimed RB N2 Hmm strange. Are these the only scumgames he played? Database says so but I think he has another one. Not sure. Probably not then. | ||
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VA. I can lynch marv first btw. I know you don't like getting lynched. | ||
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The Navillus lynch was soooooo bad. soooooo bad. Marv would most likely not lynch his nullread who he didn't touch for ages over Damdred and Obi. I don't buy the sheeping excuse 30 mintues before lynch. | ||
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##vote Chopin Liszt I just want to lynch marv first. But VA is cool as well. | ||
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On July 26 2014 09:31 Xatalos wrote: It was an impossible struggle to get enough votes for ObiWan. And he was clearly townreading me. Naturally he would lynch Navillus over me, no? Nope. Why would it be impossible to get your vote and Vivax his vote on Obiwan? I would have followed. It was still 30 minutes. On July 25 2014 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think you are a fucking asshole cava if you make a case like that on me. Unlikely that they are scum together btw. | ||
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On July 26 2014 09:35 VayneAuthority wrote: well if i actually get lynched you should look at CR day 3, his reaction to this whole thing is pretty garbage lynch Chopin with me bro. | ||
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On July 26 2014 09:40 VayneAuthority wrote: why would i want to lynch the only person that understands i didnt damage the town in any way? this is like titanic II pretty much Because Kush his filter and his nk. Because the Palmar night kill. Because the Navillus lynch. Because he is the only person who understands. Because I am pretty sure that Obiwan and Damdred are town. | ||
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Because your analysis of the night was that there was still an active player who was scum. You have both me and Vivax town for meta. Marv fits as scum. | ||
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On July 26 2014 09:44 VayneAuthority wrote: I agree. I think its in xatalos and CR maybe. i havent read glowingbear at all yet dunno what he looks like marv is hard townreading Xatalos. Look. It is possible that it is marv/CR if it isn't you. Never lynch Xatalos before marv bro. | ||
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On July 26 2014 09:47 Xatalos wrote: Better yet, never lynch marv at least until he's still alive tomorrow. That's not a good reason anymore because there is actual evidence against him now. | ||
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On July 26 2014 09:52 Xatalos wrote: Don't you get it? If marv lives past the next night kills: 1) He is scum (honestly it'd start to look a bit likely at that point) and your case against him is stronger. 2) He is town and will wreck the remaining scumteam. Win-win! GlowingBear hates you. | ||
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On July 26 2014 21:00 Xatalos wrote: Koshi, do you have any idea what batsnacks is talking about in his recent posts? With the players? Not very useful speculation. On July 17 2014 10:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: 16 players. 3 scum. KP is equal to the number of mafia left. Here are the roles: The Trio: Pianist Cellist Lead Violinist The Quintet: Bassist Pianist Cellist First Violinist Second Violinist 8 Passengers. 2 are Prepared Passengers, that is, they have a one-use, nonrefundable life vest that will absorb 1 KP. I will not describe any of the instrument roles, but I will reveal that the Pianist and Cellist for both sides have similar roles, with town/scum conditionals. The bassist and violinists are unique. As in every previous Titanic game, the role of Janitor does still exist. There is a janitor. Maybe the Pianist on scum is their Janitor with a 100% shot instead of 50%. Or maybe it is 50%. This is the only reason I am hesitant to lynch marv btw. Their is scum kp missing and I am pretty sure that due to the endgame banter in the hydra game HaruRH will have saved marv. So either marv got shot, I got shot, or a random got shot and the shot didn't go off. So it is still somewhere possible marv is town. But marv is scum. | ||
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##vote: VayneAuthority If VA knew batsnacks was the vigi. Then why was the vigi under "who are they" On July 25 2014 12:47 VayneAuthority wrote: bored so made a list post completely null - palmar, chopin, rayn hard to believe they are scum based on meta - koshi, vivax scum plausibles - CR, HaruH, xatalos who are they - damdred, batsnacks, obiwan, glowingbear kush - kush some guy that raged at me - teemursu Please understand people that don't want to vote VA (Xatalos, Obiwan, Marv), that we would always have this discussion "why would mafia fakeclaim knowing that they will get CC". It will always happen. The fallout of the discussion is often "too crazy to be scum" "why would VA put the spotlight on him?" But the reasoning VA gave was silly enough to vote him. He knew batsnacks was vigi so he claimed vigi to save batsnacks. VA should know that batsnacks was a top lynch candidate. Or that batsnacks is not the player who would hide his shot and take some more crap about being scum. So VA his plan was doomed from the start. And why would a townie be scummy on purpose? VA as a townie is most of the time a plynch somewhere in the end. He doesn't do these shiny plays as town, I don't remember it. Ask yourself how much this play helped town D2 in case batsnacks stayed silent? Anyway. VA is not doing any intelligent scumhunting. Everything he said points out to marv being scum. But marv not willing to vote him makes him town. VA says Xatalos is scum even though marv harddefends Xatalos. VA says CR is scum for "overreacting". I disagree. What CR says sounds smart. He can sound smart as scum. But he isn't scum for "overreacting". Also. VA master of Night Kills thinks Xatalos, CR, rayn killed Palmar, Kush and HaruRH. | ||
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On July 26 2014 15:33 Chairman Ray wrote: I'll explain to you why Vayne is mafia. Vayne rescinded his claim right when batsnacks claimed. Vayne's intention was never to square off in a 1v1. It was to force the vig to come out and then rescind the claim. His mafia partner will try to argue that this is not a scum move, so that Vayne gets off scot-free. The end result is that vig is forced to claim, and Vayne doesn't look any worse for it, which is exactly what is happening right now. The reason why mafia need to make this play is because if they shoot VTs at night, they lose. We have 4 roles alive and a vested VT. That's 5 potentially confirmed town. There are 4 VTs left. The only mislynch that can happen today is on a VT because a role would simply claim. With 3 VTs left, if mafia shoot 2 of them, we mass claim and then the game ends in a town victory. So the only thing mafia can do to survive until the next day is to reliably kill a role. That's why Vayne fakeclaimed and then rescinded. If Vayne was town, there would be no point to fakeclaiming. The only outcome of fakeclaiming is that the real role will counter claim you. We're not talking about a new player here; we're talking about Vayne, who is an expert in this field, fakeclaimed many times before, and knows exactly what was going to happen. Like. Why are people so incredible dumb and not read this shit right here. | ||
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2) Kush kill 3) Navillus lynch 4) how he moved off VA onto Obiwan who is town due to rayn 5) how he is not clearing lynchbait townies ever (Obiwan/Damdred/navillus/CR) 6) rayn filter 7) marv not reading rayn filter 8) how he was wrong on rayn 9) Holyflare doing absolutely fucking nothing the entire game yet always comes into this thread fully updated pushing something that shouldn't be pushed. | ||
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On July 26 2014 22:55 Damdred wrote: Trying to direct people to lynchbait eh? How about put a real case together on instead of just bringing me up every few posts because of idk why. Just finished catching up i agree VA move doesn't make complete sense why would mafia. claim and lose another kp before night 2 affectively losing the game.... Read CR his post on why mafia would do it. Why would town VA do it? | ||
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On July 26 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote: Damdred is mostly because of process of elimination and also a couple of slightly suspicious points (the wishy-washy suspicion on me, leading to a vote when I had already gathered several votes, the post marv mentioned where he said I'm "bad town or scum" which is a somewhat typical method of scum describing their "scumread", and overall just not really doing much of anything besides weakly pushing me and staying out of attention). So I give you 10 reasons why marv is scum and you say the entire town should lynch Damdred because of this. | ||
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On July 26 2014 22:31 Xatalos wrote: It could also be possible (WIFOM WIFOM) that the kills were planned to 1) avoid protective roles and 2) make marv more suspicious. It's not impossible at least. Let me also address this. Scum is afraid of marv. They don't fucking kill the people who are suspicious of marv so that marv is left with people who trust him to lynch mafia. The only one who would dare to do that is possible VA. But not fucking Damdred or Obiwan. | ||
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On July 25 2014 19:13 Chopin Liszt wrote: I was quite explicit why I said Xatalos was town. This is one of those inevitable cases where a bunch of people go "Oh Chopin, you handsome fellow, your logic is terrible, you're not supposed to be this bad! Sup?" and in the end I turn out to be right about it, as always. Maybe Vayne remembers Order mafia. My main/only regret from the lynch is that i didn't convince people to switch to Obi rather than Navillus. Chopin On July 25 2014 21:01 Chopin Liszt wrote: Maybe. I don't care so much anymore what Xatalos does though. Chopin On July 25 2014 22:18 Chopin Liszt wrote: Only Koshi and Xatalos are within the bounds of certainty for me. On July 26 2014 07:47 Chopin Liszt wrote: Chopin - Xatalos - Vivax - Glowing - CR/Damdred - Obiwan from least scummy to most scummy. ##Vote: ObiwanShinobi If you vote Xatalos before marv you don't respect marv. | ||
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On July 27 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote: If you think marv is scum don't you think Xatalos is scum with him? Either VA or Xatalos. I think chances are higher it is VA tbh. But both VA and Xatalos had strange interactions with marv. But a Xatalos lynch is not optimal I think. But feel free to post your case. Maybe it is Xatalos and not VA. I am not really sure. | ||
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On July 27 2014 00:58 VayneAuthority wrote: hmm the best reason I can find for why I am town is if you read the early parts of rayn's filter. he is really mad people are scumreading me with no info and says im a good mislynch. possibly trying to buddy up and going off heuristic that these people are dumb because he knows I am town. If you dont believe my explanation or this makes me town then i dunno guess its over. rayn always buddies his teammates. It is his weakness. | ||
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It's not that he is a shining beacon of townyness. But read the first post on the second and third page of his filter. I can see a town making those. Same for everything in between. Is he really that scummy? I don't see it tbh. | ||
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On July 27 2014 01:45 GlowingBear wrote: We are talking about hydra, you guys are considering ShoppingList as only one guy. Remember that holy flare posts the most. Koshi, reading through his filter, he seems to be contributing, but essentially for town reads, not scum hunt. Also, two things: his push on Navillus and his hard defense on Xatalos. Votes were well spread, he could've vote Vivax or keeping his vote on Obi, who he still thinks is scum. He already answered that it was easier to convince people to vote for Navillus because he thought the other ones were mislynches. It is suspicious but not necessarily mafia. His hard defense for Xatalos is weird because the only one game I've played with marv, he was completely aggressive on fluff. He wasn't on Xatalos. This is, for me, the most suspicious part. BUT if this is the part where he is being scum defending his partner, it means Datalos is also mafia. I've had a scumread before on Xatalos so this only "confirms" my theory. Therefore, I think Xatalos is a better lynch now than Chopin, because ShoppingList is at least contributing with town reads. We can think about him day3. I'm heading to Xatalos filter now. No it is marv posting almost everything. | ||
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On July 27 2014 01:49 GlowingBear wrote: He is suspicious. He really is. But check your main scum filters. Doesn't it looks like mislynching damdred is part of mafias agenda? Really, look how there is a timid scumread on damdred day one that continues on and on. Timid scumreads. Like people are trying to make townies go against him creating big cases, leading a mislynch and getting mislynched the other day. Do you get what I'm trying to say here? Yes. That's why I am being overconfident saying he is town . To balance the sneaky mafia agenda. | ||
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On July 27 2014 01:55 GlowingBear wrote: Alright, so, if you ALSO believe this, you should be voting Xatalos because he has been doing that since the beginning of the game. Hmm. Well. I don't like it because I really feel like VA has more of a chance to be scum with marv. I think Xatalos is a town pawn for scum more than I think he is scum. | ||
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On July 27 2014 01:58 GlowingBear wrote: I mean (1) lots of fluff, (2) being hard defended by a possible mafia, (3) almost no scum hunt on his filter and (4) contributing with the timid scumread on damdred, (5) being saved, continues to post fluff without Scumhunting. Don't you think there are reasons enough? (1) I agree. It is insane. Problem is I can see town Xatalos do the same. (2) Problem I have here is that if marv is scum he can townread Xatalos to make him his bitch. If marv is scum, Xatalos doesn't have to be scum at all. (3) Yup. It is annoying. But like I said. I could see town Xatalos do it as well. (4) Yup. Agree. Extremely bad. Very scummy. (5) Yup. It is annoying. But like I said. I could see town Xatalos do it as well. Don't get me wrong. I would lynch Xatalos. The townread from marv towards Xatalos is holding me back. And the fact that what VA did was not good for town. And the fact that marv just let's VA slide. I am tunneled on marv today. | ||
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On July 27 2014 02:05 VayneAuthority wrote: well there's a reason marv is considered a betteer player then most. either he is town and is the only one not being an idiot or is he is scum getting cred either way he will look good when im town. You really think we should lynch Xatalos? | ||
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On July 27 2014 02:02 Xatalos wrote: Btw I'm starting to wonder if GB might be scum after all. Nitpicking posts like this come from scum relatively often. Ugh. So you really love posts like these and would not comment on them?: On July 27 2014 02:05 VayneAuthority wrote: well there's a reason marv is considered a betteer player then most. either he is town and is the only one not being an idiot or is he is scum getting cred either way he will look good when im town. | ||
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I AM TOWN GUYS LOOK HOW TOWN I AM LOOK I MAKE THIS THEORY ABOUT MARV BUT I AM JUST YELLING I AM TOWN LOOK HOW TOWN MY PERSPECTIVE IS I AM SO TOWN | ||
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On July 27 2014 02:27 GlowingBear wrote: You are tunnelling. Really, you are. Look, all we've got from those two are WIFOM scenarios. I find marv suspicious because he is not the aggressive marv I saw on vets vs juniors, but I don't know, I still believe he could be town. If you believe marv is hard defending Vayne, you also da believe that regarding Xatalos and if marv is scum, you have to admit that one of the. Is certainly town. You can use this argument against me because I said that Xatalos was being hard defended by possible scum, but this is only one of FIVE arguments not based on WIFOM. Vayne's reason to lynch is WIFOM. Look, it all starts with "he fake claimed, so he is mafia". Then it goes to "but it is a bad move as mafia, so he is probably town". Then, "but marv and him probably made this so we think that they are both town when they are actually mafia". When you reach this level of thinking, you know it's WIFOM and that it's better to gather more information/search for actual facts than using this as the basis of a lynch. I want to lynch into 3 people only: Marv/VA/Xatalos Both VA and Xatalos don't want to kill marv. Both VA and Xatalos want(ed) to kill each other. The answer: Kill marv. | ||
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On July 27 2014 04:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote: At this point, anyway. Also, I'm not entirely sure why Vivax's posts pacified me so much on day 1, because they were both filled with lots of useless fluff like "push your lynch target" and stupid shit like that. Can we get some sort of "Obiwan total view of the game" post from you? Something that proves you are following this game, thinking about this game and contains your solution to winning this game. | ||
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On July 27 2014 04:24 Xatalos wrote: I think you should remove me and marv from today's lynch-list and look at other possibilities. I've already explained why it's very risky to lynch marv today (huge loss if he's town, maybe even blue) and besides he's most likely absorbing a bullet tonight anyway. If not, then he has more time to use his analysis / role OR he'll be lynched for being alive / not really achieving much for that long. It's just better to postpone judgment on him. As for me, well, I'm VT and I haven't really achieved that much yet. But it should be pretty evident from my play that this is not how I play scum. You only need to take a look at any of my scumgames. I never post freely in the thread whatever I'm thinking as scum. THEN SHOW ME A BETTER LYNCH PLEASE. Like really show it to me. REALLY FUCKING make it obvious. Because the only thing you do is sogt push me somewhere else and it annoys the living shit out of me because I think you are town. | ||
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On July 27 2014 04:41 GlowingBear wrote: I Haven t seen anybody insulting you, shopping list. inb4 HF his biggest contribution will be quoting all the post in which I insult him. | ||
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Talk to HF Xatalos. You got him as town. | ||
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On July 27 2014 06:05 Chopin Liszt wrote: 1000x harder when there's no vote counts -.- Yes. Finding scum is easier with vote counts. | ||
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On July 27 2014 04:53 Chopin Liszt wrote: Marv said he was busy today and i told him i refuse to play in a game that is full of outright terrible behaviour. He didn't really mind because he agreed. Everyone is pushing the VA scummy thing but for some reason the scum play 1000x outweighs the more than likely town play. If batsnacks had any thought about reading this game he could have not claimed, mafia wouldn't know who vig was and batsnacks could claim if va didn't die. If va did die he could have easily real claimed then too. So why is it that cr et al vekieve the really farfetched mafia play instead? In fact koshi linked all these fake claims and they all ended up being fake rb's which is nothing like this but multiple ppl lapped it up. Also the poimt about rayn calling obi an asshole is so terrible because it's contained in one sentence and then completely dropped. Obi also never follows up his scum read on rayn and totally is playing to world cup standard of doing nothing. He was on waves stream instead of playing here too a day or two ago. He is disinterested. Is the scumteam Chopin + unknown one or something? | ||
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He really is suggesting the scumteam is the lynchbait people. Look at the fucking night kills people. marv not killed. Vivax + Koshi not killed. Xatalos not killed. Do you think that makes sense with Obiwan + Damdred as scum? They killed Palmar and Kush? | ||
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It isn't. It really isn't. | ||
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The most suspicion he casted was on confirmed town Koshi. | ||
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Let's say I am wrong on Chopin. I am off to bed. 5 am. | ||
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On July 27 2014 11:48 batsnacks wrote: Please vote vayne. I will happily eat my words and apologize to everyone if I'm wrong... but I'm pretty sure I'm right. ##Vote: Vayne Authority I still think it is more likely VA / Marv or Xatalos / marv | ||
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Marv/GB also is possible. Someone should tell me why he is town again. I forgot. | ||
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If VA is scum GB is confirmed town for that post. But if VA is town GB could just be pushing mafia agenda there. For some reason it looks like pushing agenda. I don't know. I am ok with VA dieing. | ||
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On July 27 2014 20:00 Vivax wrote: Kush's last words before getting NK'd were something like "Vivax I wouldn't townread CR and Rayn so easily" iirc cause I didn't include them as possible scum among my options. That was the first time he said something about cr. And wasnt that after actio deadline? | ||
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On July 27 2014 20:31 Vivax wrote: He could have written that if bats came into the thread screaming that Vayne is scum cause he was lying. What? No that doesnt matter. He could have written that without anybody ever cc ing. | ||
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And now hf is hurt because he tried so hard n1. And I called him out on his shit. It's incredible. | ||
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Say that the claim for VA is null. What is left in his filter that looks so town to you? | ||
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Day 2 Votecount VayneAuthority (5) - batsnacks, Chairman Ray, Xatalos, Koshi, ObiWanShinobi (1) - Chopin Liszt (0) - Xatalos (0) - Chairman Ray (2) - VayneAuthority, Vivax Vivax (2) - VayneAuthority is set to be lynched. Time remaining: While playing hs I made this. Dnu if there are mistakes. Started at the SloOsh votecount. | ||
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On July 27 2014 16:25 Vivax wrote: Good morning. Bats, you realize that you are the counterclaim and vayne just is some claimer. Not that it matters much but just to get things right. However I like the idea that it was a scum strategy to lure out the real vig. Could also have been the town agenda to play like an idiot and laugh at us, either way he should probably be lynched. ##Unvote ##Vote VA explain please | ||
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On July 27 2014 19:59 Vivax wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote ChairmanRay EZ This post is terrible cause he tries hard to find scum motives in Vayne's play without having read the whole situation in context. He states that Vayne's intention was to find out who the vig was without taking into account that bats claimed without even knowing that Vayne fakeclaimed. You wouldn't make such a statement beforehand without realizing that, unless you simply wanted to find some bullshit reason to get somebody lynched. | ||
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But then you vote together with VA because you dislike the post in which CR gave that "idea" | ||
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Because I can see a world in which you and Obiwan are scum. Which I thought from the start. But yeah. Hosts and deadlines. Also Chopin is also still somewhere doing stuff. Anyway. Game is far from solved. | ||
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I am pretty sure I somewhere said before Cr posted that "nono we lynch VA today" | ||
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On July 28 2014 00:09 Vivax wrote: Anyway it's a massive dumpster scum case, and most people sheeped it and believed it just for all that effort I put into it, and all the scum motives I made up. Yet at the end of a 200 pages game, I only had like 6 pages of filter, and nobody imagined me being scum (not knowing my town meta well). That's really cool. If only your D1 mass posting was filled will lies and silly traps that looked coming from scum. | ||
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On July 28 2014 00:06 GlowingBear wrote: Quick case on Xatalos: These are the main reasons I've brought up. There's a (6), which is his strange reads on rayn. Follow me (big quotes on spoilers) LOL only joking right lololol why not? Now to his list post: + Show Spoiler + On July 23 2014 06:29 Xatalos wrote: HaruRH - don't remember him, not really for or against lynching him D1 Koshi - against lynching him D1 teemursu - see HaruRH Chopin Liszt - see HaruRH VayneAuthority - I have some bad memories of him literally claiming scum as town, so he might be a policy lynch again, but hopefully not raynpelikoneet - definitely not a D1 lynch unless he somehow is really scummy (doubtful regardless of his alignment) ObiWanShinobi - see HaruRH Navillus - see HaruRH GlowingBear - see HaruRH kushm4sta - hmmm.... I think he's quite a good scum player so I'd rather see until later to judge him Chairman Ray - see HaruRH Vivax - no special feelings towards him although I do remember that he was pretty obviously scummy in one game, we'll see batsnacks - see HaruRH Damdred - could be scum based on my initial gut feeling Palmar - see raynpelikoneet If there wasn't enough reasons to bash on his post, rayn is confirmed mafia. Now look how he reserves the "definetely not a lynch on day1" to rayn. I would like you to remember his positioning against Damdred here, too. Weird enough? Ok, so, there is a series of posts where rayn timid pushes Xatalos but never putting his hand on fire. He actually, at some point, only says that Xatalos' posts are bad but without reasons. I had to ask him to give reasons. And we are talking about rayn. He timid pushes Xatalos but never vote him. Here is an example, I'll ask you to open the nested quote: + Show Spoiler + On July 24 2014 02:49 Xatalos wrote: Obviously scum can change attention away from scum. It was just that he was so certain (somehow) of me being scum that he assumed that's what's actually happened... which felt weird. Besides, I still have a lot of attention and it's not like I'm trying to hide or anything? Could be town confidence I guess. It's just the way how he's been +1'ing suspicions on me so eagerly. Is it in line with the level of his scumread's reasoning? I think it's a bit too much. I'll stop here because I've made my point and I don't have enough time before deadline. Also, I was trying to further analyse this but there are no nighpost/daypost on the OP and there are not recent vote counts. It makes difficult to go deeper. I think people gave up on this game already. ##Unvote ##Vote: Xatalos Hmm. Xatalos coming into this game with a vote on rayn and harddefending him in a silly listpost actually looks town to me. :o | ||
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Who here thinks CR is scummy? If CR really is scummy we could lynch CR I guess. | ||
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On July 28 2014 00:23 Xatalos wrote: CR did have one pretty townie post I think. It's not impossibly hard to pretend for a moment though, and he has been quite opportunistic / casually lurking all game. This is a lie. CR can't play actively multiple hours a day. Always a bit and sometimes he is gone for a long time. This is as both alignments. | ||
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On July 28 2014 00:28 GlowingBear wrote: Nah. CR. ##Unvote ##Vote: Chairman Ray Yeah, I'm a bit messy this game Dude..... You think Xatalos/Choping are scum and you are voting with them? | ||
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On July 28 2014 00:29 Xatalos wrote: But when he comes online he just kind of points neat cases / summaries at opportune times? How is it opportune??? I know for a fact CR has limited time to play. | ||
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On July 28 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote: Dude, I didn't see that Rayn kept his vote on Xatalos. Why he would do that if he was scum? Besides, don't you think CR's case on Xatalos was suspicious? ... 1 wifomy thingie and you change your entire mind. knowing how you said that my case on both VA and marv was wifom and should be ignored. You don't play very consistent. | ||
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On July 28 2014 00:34 Vivax wrote: I know, I'm still double questioning myself in fear that I will save a scummer from a lynch and thus am offering my sword in vassalage to Koshi. Only question remains if Koshi has the balls to think he's the most right of all and accept my sword. Really, though, CR reminds me a bit of myself from LVIII, but koshi is sure he's busy x hours a day or something as either alignment. I will not vote CR. Never. All scummy people are on him. Chopin doesn't want to vote VA GB votes with his supertopscumread Xatalos on who he could make an insane long case because rayn kept his vote on Xatolos. VA is voting CR. Xatalos is on CR. Never. | ||
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On July 28 2014 00:47 GlowingBear wrote: Happy koshi? I mean, why are we not lynching Shopping list? They are afk right before the EoD. Don't you think they are just letting town killing themselves? I get marv won me enough games to let him explain himself. I agree he might not be the best lynch even though things point to him. | ||
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I always read CR town. meh. I give up this game. gg | ||
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It's kinda insane. | ||
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Well. We know it in our hearths. | ||
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Instead of just saying "dang, I rolled town again", he posts "sigh" in anticipation that someone will ask him about it, and then tell them he's sad about rolling town. In real life, this is an attention whoring tactic. You want to share some of your feelings, but want to make it seem less self-centered, so you bait other people into asking you. (Source: Go watch any female League of Legends streamer). In this mafia context, Xatalos probably knows complaining about rolling town is not going to be perceived as towny, so what does he do instead? Attention whore it! The combination of being worried about how people perceive his townclaim, and the extra effort put into it makes him 10x more scummy. This part in CR his case was 100% gold. I pray you roll town after your sit outs bro. 5 times scum in a row is disgusting. | ||
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On July 28 2014 02:47 VayneAuthority wrote: koshi we could have won this together. instead you made me go off my trail since marv make more sense then you. the many active scum was correct in the end I keep asking you to lynch marv with me and you keep refusing. | ||
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rayn tried to fuck me up on purpose so fuck him. | ||
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On July 28 2014 03:03 Holyflare wrote: The only reason i didn't continue playing was the utterly insulting nature of people when i came back from being ill instead of talking through the game. It was appalling. I just reread N1 and it was actually pretty civil (if you ignore the air being filled with hate) and everything you say here is you being lame. Let it be known that it was mafia that was trying to tilt people on purpose N1. And on D2 it was almost solely you adhomming me and trying to paint me as some evil bastard while I wasn't bad mannered towards you at all. I saw: Myself being very rude towards Xatalos/Vivax and hosts. Myself being very rude towards rayn. Teemu being very rude towards Obiwan. rayn shitting the thread up on purpose trying to enrage and tilt me. But also calling others (Obi) assholes. HF adhomming and lieing through his teeth d2. --- Me saying that you were useless and pushing mafia agenda shamelessly was actually the truth. Funny you have a "problem" with that the entire game and use it to not play and shame and addhom me for +48 hours. If you then still believe and post this endgame you have issues. | ||
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On July 29 2014 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: I call shit conclusions shit. As scum and as town. You started it Koshi. I still have no idea what i have said to Cava so could you tell me Koshi sa you seem to know? I don't give a fuck rayn. You come in this thread after the deadline. You call both Obi and me assholes for calling you mafia correctly. You proceed to call 8 out of my 10 filter posts utter shit after I ask you to reread marv because I think he is scum. And then you kept doing this thing repeating I called you scum for coming into the thread late and giving me shit about it. At least 2 times, probably 3. Then you call me scum, then you retaract it. The you call me scum again. Then you call me shit. I WAS FUCKING COUNTING RAYN AND I WAS ON 7 BEFORE I STOPPED. And that was before the thing with GB that I kept trying to talk you about and you kept stonewalling me and even were laughing about me wasting 1 hour of my life at 2 am. You did all this as scum. And where was all your scumhunting during the 6 pages of "content" you posted at night. You played as scum shitting up the thread. Don't fucking denie it. And HF did literally nothing but push mafia agenda everytime he came into the thread. And D2 he did nothing but adhom and shame me. | ||
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No need to fight about it now. | ||
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I am taking a break and then will come back with making max 20 posts D1. It will be glorious. | ||
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There was nothing personal about it. Or about you being sick. You were just too mafia to talk to. | ||
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