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On July 24 2014 02:30 Xatalos wrote:
GB's confidence in me being scum is actually pretty shocking. It's like he initially decided that I would be his vote target and proceeded to search for justification to keep his vote on me. There is literally no consideration for me possibly being town in his filter. In his latest post he confidently states that "mafia changed the attention away from Xatalos". This is some really stupid confirmation bias or a hopeless scum mislynch push. I think it's actually more likely coming from scum since it feels... forced. Especially his great confidence in his read right after the game had just started.
I don't like this post for multiple reasons.
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On July 24 2014 02:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Pfft, no. I had to reread your filter to find it.
I don't have to agree with a case to think someone is town or not.
no you don't. but did you read the other post of mine? 
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On July 24 2014 02:38 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 02:30 Xatalos wrote:
GB's confidence in me being scum is actually pretty shocking. It's like he initially decided that I would be his vote target and proceeded to search for justification to keep his vote on me. There is literally no consideration for me possibly being town in his filter. In his latest post he confidently states that "mafia changed the attention away from Xatalos". This is some really stupid confirmation bias or a hopeless scum mislynch push. I think it's actually more likely coming from scum since it feels... forced. Especially his great confidence in his read right after the game had just started. I don't like this post for multiple reasons. I hate when you post like this. Explain?
First two sentences are totally wrong and if Xatalos thinks so he needs to justify it which he has not done.
Why can't mafia change atttention out of mafia? I mean obviously, regardless of Xatalos' alignment he "reads himself" as town and says so, but that's not any proof of what ACTUALLY happened.
Where is the conf bias?
Confidence is not a scumtell unless he explains why.
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that was xatalos' post...
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On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up.
Cava, this post. If i have to quote my own posts again for you i am gonna lynch you.
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On July 24 2014 02:43 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 02:37 Vivax wrote:
I found GB's big post pretty townie cause he tries really hard to get a point across he seems to find tough to bring across, and in the process of reading it you kinda get that aha-feeling for all he found scummy about Xata, and can understand it and realize that it's probably what he really thinks
This is directed at you, Xata. I just found it weird how he could be so confident based on such weak reasoning.
am i scum too? i am always confident, one would say (correctly  ) over-confindent.
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Like Xatalos, why is any of that scummy?
This is like people telling me VA was your scumread but then none of them could tell me where you said he is mafia...
ugh.. fucking shit.
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let's lynch all the people who said VA is Xatalos' scumread?
jjust because that was so bad.
Palmar you in?
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On July 24 2014 02:59 Vivax wrote:
Rayn can you go a bit into detail about the "wtf Koshi, wtf are you doing" and why you don't want to scumread him, if I'm not mistaken.
I don't know what to read him. I agree with him to some extent on you, other stuff he has posted is just.... mehhhhhhhhhhh.......
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i didn't read that post. it wasn' really interesting. i don't know what's it about and i doubt it's important as noone has pushed anything based on that post.
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Vivax that's not why i think Koshi voted for you. If i am wrong please correct me.
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On July 24 2014 03:11 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 03:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax that's not why i think Koshi voted for you. If i am wrong please correct me. I correct you. Go with my blessing, amen. What of Koshi now?
what do you mean? i just said idk...
do you even know why Koshi voted for you?
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oh i misread one of your posts. yeah that's why he voted for you. i can see why.
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what you say is not right or wrong, it's just not scummy by any means.
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Isn't it already an issue that you can't be sure why after we had that long fight in the thread?
I know exactly why you had the fight. I just thought about 2min ago YOU DIDN'T. Then i realized i missed the quote from you you quoted in your post.
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On July 24 2014 03:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what you say is not right or wrong, it's just not scummy by any means. Why did you feel the need to get so worked up over his posts then.
what the fuck vivax?
I said "everything Koshi has said EXCEPT FOR WHAT HE HAS SAID ABOUT VIVAX is meh....
what the fuck`?
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yes i didn't like your post and i liked Koshi's response -> which was to vote for you, as i have clearly said.
What's so hard to understand?
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like, i don't know if you are mafia, i don't know if Koshi is mafia. Maybe you are fucking both mafia, who knows.
Other than his posts on you, they are bad. That's what i have said. I don't know why you are curious for.
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On July 24 2014 03:28 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
let's lynch all the people who said VA is Xatalos' scumread?
jjust because that was so bad.
Palmar you in? rayn please look at this post: Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 09:45 batsnacks wrote:On July 23 2014 06:29 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:18 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 23 2014 06:16 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 23 2014 06:09 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:06 Chairman Ray wrote:The exchange between Xatalos and Koshi is the most awkward and forced conversation I have ever seen, especially this: On July 23 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos it has been a while. I am town this game. You must be so happy. Hmm. I think I want you to live longer than D1 just for the "Mafia totes alive guis" mass PM. That, and my history of reading you is horrible. I have the vague idea that someone explained your meta to me in a recent game so I'll search for that. If we had two lynches, I'd lynch them both. ##Vote: Xatalos I don't think it's a good idea to lynch either of us for D1. Generally speaking. What does this mean? Koshi can look scummy during D1 as town so it's not usually a good time to lynch him. I'm generally active regardless of my alignment, and I become a (somewhat) valuable asset throughout the game as town and I tend to reveal myself more easily later on as scum (+leaving material to work with). Neither of us are ideal D1 lynches. Interesting. Why don't you give us a list of acceptable day 1 lynches then, friend? HaruRH - don't remember him, not really for or against lynching him D1 Koshi - against lynching him D1 teemursu - see HaruRH Chopin Liszt - see HaruRH VayneAuthority - I have some bad memories of him literally claiming scum as town, so he might be a policy lynch again, but hopefully not raynpelikoneet - definitely not a D1 lynch unless he somehow is really scummy (doubtful regardless of his alignment) ObiWanShinobi - see HaruRH Navillus - see HaruRH GlowingBear - see HaruRH kushm4sta - hmmm.... I think he's quite a good scum player so I'd rather see until later to judge him Chairman Ray - see HaruRH Vivax - no special feelings towards him although I do remember that he was pretty obviously scummy in one game, we'll see batsnacks - see HaruRH Damdred - could be scum based on my initial gut feeling Palmar - see raynpelikoneet Here I colored your post for you because I wanted to see what it would look like with slightly more effort. I really want you to understand without having to explain it to you.
yeah you made VA's name red! <3
now explain why?
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On July 24 2014 03:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yes i didn't like your post and i liked Koshi's response -> which was to vote for you, as i have clearly said.
What's so hard to understand? That I fail to understand how you don't like my point I made en passant about Koshi posting his convoluted reasons for navi being town without having a scumread he would be able to support with that. Like, he talked about all that stuff before, the only thing I saw close to a scumread was his vote on CR, then came mechanics talk, mass claim talk, he skips over the palmar case until I ask him about it, claims that navi is town, and in all this, where exactly was he scumhunting until the point where he dropped the vote on me more out of omgus than anything else?
okay this makes more sense on paper.
lemme re-read a bit.
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