EPTOn July 26 2014 14:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
He retracted his claim.
Besides, that claim doesn't make sense to make as scum. You get rid of a confirmed town and die immediately after, and a 1 for 1 trade is never good for mafia. Town lies for bad/stupid reasons, like taking a hit or what the fuck ever, so I don't see the claim as alignment indicative unless he's actually going to stick with it and waste our time lynching him for nothing.
If you actually think he's scum, then you need reasons and a case. A nonsensical counterclaim is not a case.
He retracted his claim.
Besides, that claim doesn't make sense to make as scum. You get rid of a confirmed town and die immediately after, and a 1 for 1 trade is never good for mafia. Town lies for bad/stupid reasons, like taking a hit or what the fuck ever, so I don't see the claim as alignment indicative unless he's actually going to stick with it and waste our time lynching him for nothing.
If you actually think he's scum, then you need reasons and a case. A nonsensical counterclaim is not a case.
I'll explain to you why Vayne is mafia.
Vayne rescinded his claim right when batsnacks claimed. Vayne's intention was never to square off in a 1v1. It was to force the vig to come out and then rescind the claim. His mafia partner will try to argue that this is not a scum move, so that Vayne gets off scot-free. The end result is that vig is forced to claim, and Vayne doesn't look any worse for it, which is exactly what is happening right now.
The reason why mafia need to make this play is because if they shoot VTs at night, they lose. We have 4 roles alive and a vested VT. That's 5 potentially confirmed town. There are 4 VTs left. The only mislynch that can happen today is on a VT because a role would simply claim. With 3 VTs left, if mafia shoot 2 of them, we mass claim and then the game ends in a town victory. So the only thing mafia can do to survive until the next day is to reliably kill a role. That's why Vayne fakeclaimed and then rescinded.
If Vayne was town, there would be no point to fakeclaiming. The only outcome of fakeclaiming is that the real role will counter claim you. We're not talking about a new player here; we're talking about Vayne, who is an expert in this field, fakeclaimed many times before, and knows exactly what was going to happen.
