Team Melee Mini Mafia V: Newbies and Vets

On July 09 2014 22:37 marvellosity wrote:
take Robik out of the Junior pool for christ's sake.

On July 10 2014 04:11 kitaman27 wrote:
Either Artanis or rayn is going to need to justify why they qualify as a junior

On July 11 2014 07:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Fine, we'll go with TheD.

Even though I don't have a D.

On July 11 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:



That would be Robik.

On July 15 2014 00:28 Koshi wrote:
I AM STILL SENIOR

On July 15 2014 00:48 IAmRobik wrote:

They killed marv

On July 15 2014 03:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:
That flow chart is fantastic.

On July 15 2014 03:46 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Artanis- What happened to you not being able to play?
Loser.

Also, Idk, it was more of I wasn't expecting it to come from him. Not more of a "oh koshi's case is good cause he made a good case on harubear" but more of a "Koshi actually playing is good"

If that made sense?

On July 15 2014 05:11 Tehpoofter wrote:


ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

This post. Made my entire day. Artanis if your scum let me know I'll maf side just for this post Koshi join #wrekt.


Also pretty much we lynched slam/sqrt for being quitters sorta. Then they killed Palmer/Marv and Robik wnats to kill me but wnats ExO to say it. Eden is probably the most town around. As of now both of your cell has been replaced so thats fun.

You going to read it all or just start from here?

On July 15 2014 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:

wtf is this Artanis?

On July 15 2014 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:

read the thread?

On July 15 2014 05:41 OnceKing wrote:
why sheep koshi specifically?

On July 15 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

do you think he is scum?

On July 15 2014 05:50 IAmRobik wrote:

being lazy and bitter than you didn't advance to the finals because

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 15 2014 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis you should read my post after i was afk.
You should not be asking these things if you had readthe thread. Everything important is in what i said.
Have you read my filter?

On July 15 2014 05:55 Tehpoofter wrote:


I think that the initial pressure was warranted. Slam is insanely difficult to read ever. So pressuring him is good. I don't know if anyone was really reasonable for making it happen. I'd say Eden pushing really hard at the end making sure it went through was a townie line to take he seemed convinced it was going to be a hit.

Some really handsome dude wrote:
Koshi is a good town player and you should expect things to come out of him. Do you have any comments on the case itself?

On July 15 2014 06:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Why didn't tehpoofter ask me this in qt then?

On July 16 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Could you elaborate more on this? This definitely does not apply to all the people. Is there something to actually back up the statement because to me it looks like some general statement how mafia was played about 5 years ago....

Also by that sinani should absolutey be mafia, so why are you not pushing him as a lynch and does it not bother you Eden isn't doing so aswell? Why?

On July 16 2014 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So you are just assuming GlowingBear is "bad" because he is new. okay.. Well, i don't assume things. There are multiple things in their teams filter that makes absolutely no sense from town perspective. It's all been pointed out. I probably need to recap it later on so we can lynch scum.

Because sinani is the definition of "just blending in" and not saying anything useful at all.

On July 16 2014 02:45 IAmRobik wrote:

Cause he wants me to be wrong on him

On July 16 2014 03:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause he seems like he has some conviction -- it seems like he actually believes that he played a role in getting sqrt lynched and why would he want so much credit for it as scum?

Plus, marv had both him and eden leaning town.
Blame marv if wrong.

On July 16 2014 05:30 Eden1892 wrote:

If rayn doesn't do anything to act on his bitching and moaning by the time I'm done catching up I probably rather lynch him over bunnies. Complaining about thread direction while not doing something about it is extremely shady

On July 16 2014 05:36 Eden1892 wrote:
That's sweet of him but what has he actually done this game? All I see is him being thoroughly unconvincing wrt harubear and then bitching about thread direction without making a serious effort to change it.

He can wait until tomorrow I guess but I would bet on him being mafia tbh

On July 16 2014 05:44 Eden1892 wrote:
I also didn't read but he's been called out for inconsistencies in it re: GlowingBear so I'm not sure it's a townie thing

I don't have meta knowledge but I'm not impressed by rayn if this is his town play. Bad logic and directionless whining set off my cactus throne alarms

More problematic for me is: Who can bunnies' partner be if NOT rayn? Someone busing her with a close count? You've said it's not me, harubear, ok or rayn, so that leaves Robik which makes no sense to me.

On July 16 2014 05:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Could you to the best of your abilities point out what that something is? Because right now it feels like a very feeble, uncheckable thing.

On July 16 2014 06:04 Eden1892 wrote:

The context here is that I don't understand how your view of the game state is evolving. If you townread me, OK, harubear and rayn, you must by extension believe the scumteam to be bunnies and Robik. The problem isn't one of unflipped associations per se; I'm not saying "you must find a viable partner for bunnies or bunnies can't be scum." I'm saying that bunnies/Robik doesn't make sense to me and therefore either one of your townreads is wrong or you're mafia. There's one unflipped association there: bunnies/Robik doesn't make sense to me. That's not a big stretch since Robik has been whining about trying to kill bunnies all game long.

On July 16 2014 06:15 Eden1892 wrote:
So... why not rayn then? Cause it's definitely not me or OK and I'm pretty sure it's not harubear.

Now as far as actual reads and not just shit based on kills I hate Glowingbear this game. This does not feel at all like his town game from the other newbie i was in. He was far more conversational and he made some cases but he wasn't as robotic about it. If you look at his posts they're very neat and meticulous

On July 16 2014 00:32 HaruRH wrote:


You're correct.

This is glowingbear's 2nd game, and he never was a lynch target on his first game. So im letting him do whatever he wants, then I'll attempt to clean up his mess if I can

On July 16 2014 07:28 Tehpoofter wrote:


They were painful to pass.

Tell me why I'm write on Wedemandalayer and what do you think of my arguement about Onceking.

On July 16 2014 07:36 Koshi wrote:

I drank this cocktail with Limoncello and Cava. My head really hurts atm. Really strong stuff.

Daddy needs some sleep time.

On July 16 2014 07:42 HaruRH wrote:


Holy fuck. My scum play is literally me being the most active town. Idk but me being afk should already be a townread already.

Also, please point out where did I post at 3am beause I recall sleeping way earlier than that and waking up at 5am everyday.

And yes, I do read the thread. Mostly to tell glowingbear what to write and think. I'm taking a backseat for glowingbear here.

-Each player within a team is expected to contribute an equal amount. While there may be some elements of coaching involved, seniors may not play a back seat role and juniors should not shy away from posting.

On July 16 2014 07:49 HaruRH wrote:


According to my time its 10pm for the first post and 12pm for the second. So your time analysis is still wrong.

That isn't 5am. Its 6am now. Do your maths.

MAY NOT

parity cop

On July 16 2014 08:26 Tehpoofter wrote:


I didn't see it or skipped it. Can you relink?

On July 16 2014 07:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean with the first part. Regarding Onceking, all the talk about him is mostly from when I wasn't in the game yet and I haven't caught up on it yet so it's hard for me to get a grasp on it. Looking at the vote counts he seemed to hop a lot and he was the first to vote on sqrt, so I'm not really sure about him taking the path of least resistance. Taking a quick look at Sinani's filter, it is pretty devoid of content but I believe that's pretty much par for the course with him.

On July 16 2014 08:44 IAmRobik wrote:

well i'm the medic, so cop will 100% live tomorrow with a real check. I suggest a Rayn check or a koshi check

On July 16 2014 09:00 Tehpoofter wrote:


Unvote me. I'm town. Vote someone else or lose a lynch.

On July 16 2014 10:56 Tehpoofter wrote:


change change change change change change

dont use the no tiem excuse you have 2 mintues

On July 16 2014 10:56 OnceKing wrote:
wtf artanis
u READ HIS DEFENSE
he was shitting town then u said it yourself and hes shitting town now

i know it sounds like im asking for an unflipped association
but poe the game
who could possibly be poofs partner

On July 16 2014 18:49 Koshi wrote:
yay for Eden.

4 people up for lynch tomorrow. We look by far the worst. I blame Artanis.

But if I got my wishes we would have lynched a blue. So... I am ok with this.jpg

On July 16 2014 20:01 Eden1892 wrote:

there was plenty of smoke to killing rayn for the last hour of the turn, incorrect answer

who is the final mafia iyo? and why? you stole my koshi from me so i have to sheep with u to get back @ him.

On July 16 2014 20:08 Eden1892 wrote:
tbh i feel like even the most casual click of the thread would have immediately revealed that slenderayn was being pushed over poofybunnies

why does robik making a massive push to lynch poofter make him scum? and i feel like "lining up the lynches" is rather uncharitable, holyflare's case on poofter isn't too bad (although i disagree) and he's not stating it like some ironclad certainty... why do you feel it's "lining up the lynches" as opposed to simply "making a case"?

On July 16 2014 20:42 Eden1892 wrote:
tie vote count, all the actives in the thread agitating hard for rayn to be lynched and you say it's likely that nothing would have happened? i'll grant that i'm biased because i was one of the biggest agitators but i really don't see how you can say that. i would bet everyone else itt at the time tells you that it was close all the way, even robik who was ride-or-die on the poofter lynch and Based God harubear who switched at literally the last second.

i would buy this more if you hadn't outright said

with one minute to go, i mean seriously, how can you act like nothing was going to happen lol. it was obviously close all the way through, you acknowledge it yourself with this comment, you can't tell me that scum in your spot would just be like "oh well nothing's gonna happen time to afk"

re: Robik, i agree that the "i don't even care if you are town" comment was bullshit and terrible but contextually it didn't/doesn't read like scum pushing it too hard, it reads like mad as hell Robik getting roped into a fight regardless of alignment. it's null to me. he was obviously just pissy cause i'm better @ pushing lynches than he is

and so what if he was pushing town hard over scum? also null, if he's town he doesn't know either alignment and is pushing on his best read and just happens to be wrong. if he's scum you could just as easily argue that robik is going to be hesitant to push so hard on town knowing that he's saving scum...

of course that ignores the REAL explanation which is that robik had pushed so hard the whole time on poofybunnies... which is not definitively a townie trait, but is certainly more townie than scummy. if he's town then it makes sense that he's going to push hard on his scum read and push even harder as it becomes less certain that his read gets lynched. if he's scum, then once it came down to rayn vs poofy he had already committed with a hard push and has taken an excellent weapon in this scenario, the bus, off the table. why, as scum, commit to poofy as a fake scumread from the beginning of the game if it could mean that you end up with your hands tied in the event that town figured out your partner and you needed to bus? robik clearly left his options about as closed as possible, which doesn't necessarily make him town, but would be a bad play if he's scum.

this whole post kind of exemplifies the problem i'm having with your team, artanis. you and koshi are good players. but i feel like this case on robik is weak... it's the kind of "he was vocally wrong! he must be the bad guy!" lynch that i expect out of newbie townies who don't think through a situation logically and run with the first strong emotion they feel about a major event. and remember that tell we discussed earlier about harubear that turned out to be right? the path of least resistance vs most resistance? robik is by far and away the path of least resistance outside of your slot right now because he got beamed in the face with a carton of ostrich eggs when rayn flipped scum. path of least resistance isn't always scummy but when it's coupled with, frankly, pretty crappy arguing? yeah it looks scummy to me.

On July 16 2014 21:42 Koshi wrote:
wow. so bm.

On July 16 2014 21:44 Holyflare wrote:
dude that's not a town seal that's the biggest mafia seal ever

ty for free win guys

On July 16 2014 21:50 HaruRH wrote:


THATS A SCUMSEAL ARTANIS LOOK AT THAT FACE

On July 16 2014 21:53 HaruRH wrote:



I CLUB YOU WTF THIS SCUMSEAL IS ANNOUNCING HIS NIGHTKILL
AND LOOK AT THAT SCUMMY FACE JEEZ

On July 16 2014 23:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Robik obviously fakeclaim rofl why would medic ever claim outside of threat of lynch

On July 16 2014 23:09 Koshi wrote:
gg all. Very sad. First scumloss. I blame rayn.

On July 16 2014 23:24 Eden1892 wrote:
Wow
Y'all know we caught rayn and artanis without pr right? I get that they helped out but it's not like we rode blue dix to victory like in Avatar

Well I guess they rode MY blue dick but that's different

On July 16 2014 23:28 HaruRH wrote:


It was all planned lol

Glwoingbear wanted to vote switch at the last 5 min to see what poofter and his lynchers would say, but ultimately backed out, so I did the vote switch instead

On July 16 2014 23:30 Koshi wrote:
All town played well. fact.

On July 16 2014 23:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I can't play when i am sick and literally cannot look at the computer screen. Not to mention i have to be at work 7am and the deadline was at 4am for BOTH of us.

We basically got lynched because we had no time to play because of unfortunate events. meh...
well, ggwp town!