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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 20:51 GMT
#1921
That's not very helpful, Bunnies. I'd prefer you answered this.
On July 16 2014 05:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Could you to the best of your abilities point out what that something is? Because right now it feels like a very feeble, uncheckable thing.

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 21:03 GMT
#1923
1. Seems circumstancial at best. In fact, I'd say it points to Koshi being town. No reason for mafia to shoot the people they can sheep, or set themselves up this way.
2. I actually like the meta case. I don't know how accurate it was in terms of Koshi just bitching all the time as I hadn't read it, but I like the examples you brought up though you didn't compare it with town games where he replaced in. I can't speak for his meta on that. Also, since that post he's made his case on Glowing which you agreed was pretty good.
3. I'm not sure what you mean with that.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 21:08 GMT
#1925
On July 16 2014 06:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 05:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 16 2014 05:44 Eden1892 wrote:
I also didn't read but he's been called out for inconsistencies in it re: GlowingBear so I'm not sure it's a townie thing

I don't have meta knowledge but I'm not impressed by rayn if this is his town play. Bad logic and directionless whining set off my cactus throne alarms

More problematic for me is: Who can bunnies' partner be if NOT rayn? Someone busing her with a close count? You've said it's not me, harubear, ok or rayn, so that leaves Robik which makes no sense to me.

Making unflipped associations is generally bad. I don't know if it's not OK. I have several people that gave me at least slight townreads and we'll see how they develop as the game goes on. Right now, Bunnies/Poof seems like the most likely slot to flip scum and with no flipped scum so far I'm not going to go by associations.

The context here is that I don't understand how your view of the game state is evolving. If you townread me, OK, harubear and rayn, you must by extension believe the scumteam to be bunnies and Robik. The problem isn't one of unflipped associations per se; I'm not saying "you must find a viable partner for bunnies or bunnies can't be scum." I'm saying that bunnies/Robik doesn't make sense to me and therefore either one of your townreads is wrong or you're mafia. There's one unflipped association there: bunnies/Robik doesn't make sense to me. That's not a big stretch since Robik has been whining about trying to kill bunnies all game long.

Or the alternative is that one of my slight townreads is wrong. They're all tentative. My reads are still at a very early stage as I've only replaced in a day ago and I haven't read up on what happened before me except some global things and filters where it was brought up. It doesn't matter if Bunnies/Robik doesn't make sense.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 21:18 GMT
#1927
On July 16 2014 06:15 Eden1892 wrote:
So... why not rayn then? Cause it's definitely not me or OK and I'm pretty sure it's not harubear.

I'm far from as certain on OK as you are. I'd rate Haru as townier. I might be wrong on Rayn, we'll see as the thread develops.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 21:57 GMT
#1931
Okay Poof, how serious are you on Robik being scum? What are your reads?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 22:01 GMT
#1933
Poof is there any reason for suspecting OK other than buddying up with Eden for you?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 22:12 GMT
#1937
Now as far as actual reads and not just shit based on kills I hate Glowingbear this game. This does not feel at all like his town game from the other newbie i was in. He was far more conversational and he made some cases but he wasn't as robotic about it. If you look at his posts they're very neat and meticulous

Do you feel this weighs up to the fact that he's going for the road of most resistance though? It's a newbie going up against the stream trying to get Rayn lynched over bandwagoning onto your slot, which you, presuming you're town, know is town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 22:18 GMT
#1941
One thing I did find convenient was that when I commented on how Glowing was new and that's why this strategy made me think he was town, Haru popped in, made this post:
On July 16 2014 00:32 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 00:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 16 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 16 2014 00:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I still want to discuss it with Koshi in the qt but I'm not really feeling Haru/Glowing here. I liked Eden's point on Glowing regarding taking the path of most resistance.

Sinani what specifically makes you scum on them?

Could you elaborate more on this? This definitely does not apply to all the people. Is there something to actually back up the statement because to me it looks like some general statement how mafia was played about 5 years ago....

My personal experience dictates that this is a likely indicator for someone whom to my knowledge isn't that experienced with the game.

Also by that sinani should absolutey be mafia, so why are you not pushing him as a lynch and does it not bother you Eden isn't doing so aswell? Why?

Why should he absolutely be mafia because of it?


You're correct.

This is glowingbear's 2nd game, and he never was a lynch target on his first game. So im letting him do whatever he wants, then I'll attempt to clean up his mess if I can

And then disappeared again.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 22:21 GMT
#1944
Alright fuck it, Koshi suspected that slot and he seems to be afk so I can't really discuss it with him atm and you're shitting town bricks.
##Unvote
##Vote eam WeDemandALawyer
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 22:24 GMT
#1946
Stop lurking and participate, junior.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 22:33 GMT
#1954
On July 16 2014 07:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 07:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Alright fuck it, Koshi suspected that slot and he seems to be afk so I can't really discuss it with him atm and you're shitting town bricks.
##Unvote
##Vote eam WeDemandALawyer


They were painful to pass.

Tell me why I'm write on Wedemandalayer and what do you think of my arguement about Onceking.

I'm not sure what you mean with the first part. Regarding Onceking, all the talk about him is mostly from when I wasn't in the game yet and I haven't caught up on it yet so it's hard for me to get a grasp on it. Looking at the vote counts he seemed to hop a lot and he was the first to vote on sqrt, so I'm not really sure about him taking the path of least resistance. Taking a quick look at Sinani's filter, it is pretty devoid of content but I believe that's pretty much par for the course with him.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 22:37 GMT
#1958
On July 16 2014 07:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 07:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Stop lurking and participate, junior.

I drank this cocktail with Limoncello and Cava. My head really hurts atm. Really strong stuff.

Daddy needs some sleep time.

I don't need any sleep time though, but I guess you're right. It is bedtime for you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 22:39 GMT
#1962
Haru: You made some posts in your timezone at 3am then, and then one at 5am, suggesting you're reading the thread yet that's the only contribution you've made. I find it, like I said, awfully convenient.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 22:45 GMT
#1968
On July 16 2014 07:42 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Haru: You made some posts in your timezone at 3am then, and then one at 5am, suggesting you're reading the thread yet that's the only contribution you've made. I find it, like I said, awfully convenient.


Holy fuck. My scum play is literally me being the most active town. Idk but me being afk should already be a townread already.

Also, please point out where did I post at 3am beause I recall sleeping way earlier than that and waking up at 5am everyday.

And yes, I do read the thread. Mostly to tell glowingbear what to write and think. I'm taking a backseat for glowingbear here.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 15 2014 22:11 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 22:09 Koshi wrote:
On July 15 2014 22:08 HaruRH wrote:
On July 15 2014 21:52 Koshi wrote:
On July 15 2014 21:13 Eden1892 wrote:
Koshi why do you feel that harubear is more worthy of your vote than poofybunnies?

Because everything GlowingBear did right before that rayn case screamed scum to me. I really don't want to change my vote because I think they are scum.

Look at where there vote is and at what cases they are making. You would think they would be voting rayn now right?

HaruRH just came back after being 48 hours into the thread and just barfed all over my case on GW. Nothing he said convinced me I made a bad case on a townie.


One guy had to be the bad one, the shitty poster and the barfer while the other guy had to be the good one, the logical poster and wall-of-logic poster. I chose to be the first.

So who are your scumreads barfer?


Rayn& slender makes an epic scum duo. Rayn with his entrance and summary posts that seemed to want to scumread, but suddenly votes another team
Slender with his never ending questions that are obviously answered, but still decides to ask anyway

nb& poofter are just trying so hard to survive its hilarious.

On July 16 2014 00:32 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 00:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 16 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 16 2014 00:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I still want to discuss it with Koshi in the qt but I'm not really feeling Haru/Glowing here. I liked Eden's point on Glowing regarding taking the path of most resistance.

Sinani what specifically makes you scum on them?

Could you elaborate more on this? This definitely does not apply to all the people. Is there something to actually back up the statement because to me it looks like some general statement how mafia was played about 5 years ago....

My personal experience dictates that this is a likely indicator for someone whom to my knowledge isn't that experienced with the game.

Also by that sinani should absolutey be mafia, so why are you not pushing him as a lynch and does it not bother you Eden isn't doing so aswell? Why?

Why should he absolutely be mafia because of it?


You're correct.

This is glowingbear's 2nd game, and he never was a lynch target on his first game. So im letting him do whatever he wants, then I'll attempt to clean up his mess if I can

There's a 2.5 hour gap in there, and you claim the latter post to be at 5am. Also, if you wake up at 5am every day it should've been no problem for you to add in more. As for sitting back, from the rules:
-Each player within a team is expected to contribute an equal amount. While there may be some elements of coaching involved, seniors may not play a back seat role and juniors should not shy away from posting.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 22:50 GMT
#1977
On July 16 2014 07:49 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 16 2014 07:42 HaruRH wrote:
On July 16 2014 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Haru: You made some posts in your timezone at 3am then, and then one at 5am, suggesting you're reading the thread yet that's the only contribution you've made. I find it, like I said, awfully convenient.


Holy fuck. My scum play is literally me being the most active town. Idk but me being afk should already be a townread already.

Also, please point out where did I post at 3am beause I recall sleeping way earlier than that and waking up at 5am everyday.

And yes, I do read the thread. Mostly to tell glowingbear what to write and think. I'm taking a backseat for glowingbear here.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 15 2014 22:11 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 22:09 Koshi wrote:
On July 15 2014 22:08 HaruRH wrote:
On July 15 2014 21:52 Koshi wrote:
On July 15 2014 21:13 Eden1892 wrote:
Koshi why do you feel that harubear is more worthy of your vote than poofybunnies?

Because everything GlowingBear did right before that rayn case screamed scum to me. I really don't want to change my vote because I think they are scum.

Look at where there vote is and at what cases they are making. You would think they would be voting rayn now right?

HaruRH just came back after being 48 hours into the thread and just barfed all over my case on GW. Nothing he said convinced me I made a bad case on a townie.


One guy had to be the bad one, the shitty poster and the barfer while the other guy had to be the good one, the logical poster and wall-of-logic poster. I chose to be the first.

So who are your scumreads barfer?


Rayn& slender makes an epic scum duo. Rayn with his entrance and summary posts that seemed to want to scumread, but suddenly votes another team
Slender with his never ending questions that are obviously answered, but still decides to ask anyway

nb& poofter are just trying so hard to survive its hilarious.

On July 16 2014 00:32 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 00:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 16 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 16 2014 00:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I still want to discuss it with Koshi in the qt but I'm not really feeling Haru/Glowing here. I liked Eden's point on Glowing regarding taking the path of most resistance.

Sinani what specifically makes you scum on them?

Could you elaborate more on this? This definitely does not apply to all the people. Is there something to actually back up the statement because to me it looks like some general statement how mafia was played about 5 years ago....

My personal experience dictates that this is a likely indicator for someone whom to my knowledge isn't that experienced with the game.

Also by that sinani should absolutey be mafia, so why are you not pushing him as a lynch and does it not bother you Eden isn't doing so aswell? Why?

Why should he absolutely be mafia because of it?


You're correct.

This is glowingbear's 2nd game, and he never was a lynch target on his first game. So im letting him do whatever he wants, then I'll attempt to clean up his mess if I can

There's a 2.5 hour gap in there, and you claim the latter post to be at 5am. Also, if you wake up at 5am every day it should've been no problem for you to add in more. As for sitting back, from the rules:
-Each player within a team is expected to contribute an equal amount. While there may be some elements of coaching involved, seniors may not play a back seat role and juniors should not shy away from posting.


According to my time its 10pm for the first post and 12pm for the second. So your time analysis is still wrong.

That isn't 5am. Its 6am now. Do your maths.

MAY NOT

You said you replied to me at 5am which spawned the confusion. So instead you lurked the thread from 10-12pm and didn't comment other than that nugget when I pointed it out. That actually looks worse.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 23:24 GMT
#2006
Poof why aren't you doing anything with the reply I gave you? I even mentioned it was unclear what you meant with the first part yet you didn't clarify.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 23:26 GMT
#2012
parity cop

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##unvote
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 23:27 GMT
#2014
On July 16 2014 08:26 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 08:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Poof why aren't you doing anything with the reply I gave you? I even mentioned it was unclear what you meant with the first part yet you didn't clarify.


I didn't see it or skipped it. Can you relink?

On July 16 2014 07:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 07:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 16 2014 07:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Alright fuck it, Koshi suspected that slot and he seems to be afk so I can't really discuss it with him atm and you're shitting town bricks.
##Unvote
##Vote eam WeDemandALawyer


They were painful to pass.

Tell me why I'm write on Wedemandalayer and what do you think of my arguement about Onceking.

I'm not sure what you mean with the first part. Regarding Onceking, all the talk about him is mostly from when I wasn't in the game yet and I haven't caught up on it yet so it's hard for me to get a grasp on it. Looking at the vote counts he seemed to hop a lot and he was the first to vote on sqrt, so I'm not really sure about him taking the path of least resistance. Taking a quick look at Sinani's filter, it is pretty devoid of content but I believe that's pretty much par for the course with him.

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 23:37 GMT
#2028
Honestly fine with lynching both Poof and Rayn right now. It seems pretty clear cut if there isn't a CC.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 15 2014 23:44 GMT
#2037
##Vote TheD
Parity Cop thing seems sensible to off the Poof slot first.
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