Team Melee Mini Mafia V: Newbies and Vets - Page 2

On July 11 2014 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Glowingbear talking about stuff that does not even make anyone mafia in his opinion. I don't even know why Haru is trying to "defend him" because apparently they haven't even talked about this as he said "i don't know what GlowingBear's interntion was". He literally cannot explain it so it's useless to even try.

On July 11 2014 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You cannot possibly defend him regardless of your affiliation if you don't even know why he has said something!! All you do is shit up the thread with irrelevant things.

lol dat vote

On July 11 2014 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So what's your case? I am not making sense to you?

On July 11 2014 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

This is the correct answer. Which you should have provided in the first place. Instead you went on for nearly a page saying something else, things like "we needed to talk about it anyways" (which is incorrect in the first place).

You do not talk about stuff that's irrelevant, in fact it's more likely you are mafia if you do. I don't see anything relevant coming out of either of you, anything that leads to any conclusions. Except the vote on us which is pretty.. funny. ^^

On July 11 2014 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Haru, i got a simple question for you:
Do you think there was any point in you trying to defend your team against Palmar's accusation (the point where he specifically calls out GlowingBear)? How would you say you can contribute to the matter in any way if you don't know what your teammate's intentions behind his posting were in the first place?

On July 11 2014 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways. I still don't get why Haru's vote is on me. Everything makes sense in his opinion, why do i deserve to get voted for saying basically the same shit Palmar did but he does not? Apparently the reason is not sheeping because he didn't say so..

I gotta travel for a couple of hours, i'll be back tonight, occasionally.

On July 11 2014 23:12 Eden1892 wrote:


?

first of all why even be worried at all about "omgus"ing? if you're town then vote your suspects, that's all that matters
secondly if you're gonna be worried about omgusing then why turn right back around and do it?
third why does someone accusing you before you accuse them make them more likely town?

On July 11 2014 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Well this is not what your teammate pointed out in his post. He said "it might be or it might be not, no conclusion thxbye".
Anyways it's pointless to discuss this with you, only GlowingBear can answer regarding this unless you are lying and actually know why he made such a post.

On July 11 2014 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
I don't understand why Haru gives a blanket pass to Palmar for making a case on his slot, yet votes rayn's slot.

On July 11 2014 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
so you're voting for him based on wounded pride and because you apparently legitimately think only mafia vote and talk about it later? or what?

On July 12 2014 00:32 IAmRobik wrote:

I don't know. The only thing that really bothers me strongly is that they have differing reads based off of my previous experience with playing as a hydra and the two heads expressing differing reads -- it also happened in my first game with rayn and mocsta expressing different reads. So both hydras that I've played with that were mafia had different reads. The one hydra that I played with that had the same reads (mattisfoolish) had the same reads.

it also MINORLY bothers me that bunnies is trying to push scum on me because I'm town, so that's pushing an anti-town agenda

On July 12 2014 00:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Based God harurh.
I am never voting you this game
Your teammate said something super towny
we should forge an alliance
you should recruit rayn/slendy for it since they're town too.
Then we just need to find 1 more team and we've pretty much got ourselves a lock.

On July 12 2014 01:24 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Haru is definitely strange.
He is not acting like in previous games.
I don't like him.

His partner, Glowingbear, however, I do like.
This:

Is a good post. Decent logic here.

Overall, I'm on the fence with these guys.

Haru, a question for you.

Why were you waiting for robik to say this?

On July 12 2014 18:54 marvellosity wrote:
I'm at my best friend's wedding today, so I'm leaving things in mderg's capable hands. He's probably going to make the final decision, not sure if/when I'll be able to check my phone.

Few things I noted, mebbe they're useful or will be, maybe not. With slam/sqrt, check how easy the wagon is, I don't see any pushback for the lynch. I don't really get this weird martyring behaviour from a team of 2, you'd expect at least one of them to prop up the other. I don't know what that means. They're both unstable? Or it's a ploy? ?? I'm not used to Slam insulting the thread like this. That doesn't make me feel good. I'm tentatively ok with this lynch but with reservations I guess.

Stratiform doesn't look quite so bad. Not sure about Palmar. Not gonna be around to judge him on today's play so meh.

Poofter didn't bother playing. Many scumpoints. I've felt ok about bunnies, but Poofter dragging her down. Probably not lynch but I don't trust.

Right now I like Haru/Glowing for mafia most.


Throws in random names (Robik, ExO, Eden) and a couple of times states that he scumhunts through passivity and friendly behaviour. These 3 names don't make much (any?) sense in this context. Robik the most abrasive of them all, Eden has been active, ExO's argued his corner firmly enough. His description of what he's looking for -> these 3 names doesn't seem natural to me. He brings up Robik as suspicious again in a later post but again never explains why, again it is the opposite of what he's looking for in mafia.
sqrt/Slam may have been passive to some extent maybe? They've been quite prickly too. There seems to be a whole bunch of other targets that conform to his self-professed view.

Basically I find the 3 names he throws in, together with his self-styled description of scumhunting, together with how he introduced sqrt/slam as scummy after that, very suspicious indeed. My best bet for mafia right now.

On July 12 2014 19:14 Eden1892 wrote:
Unflipped associations time!

If you're right about Shiny Ursaring being mafia, marv, then that explains why there's no counterwagon: the other mafia is busing.

Slamroot set itself up to be bused when it got caught -- notice how both members completely drop any effort to defend themselves from pressing questions as soon as they're brought up. If we're being honest, sqrt's post that I called him out on which started the avalanche of suspicion on their slot wasn't this damning or obvious. It snowballed because Slamroot didn't bother responding to any accusations whatsoever. I would acknowledge that giving up straight away is probably suboptimal play for the mafia because I don't think it would have been very difficult to defuse suspicions about them; however, even if suboptimal, it still conceivably advances scum wincon by allowing the partner to bus for credit. As town behavior OTOH it's not merely suboptimal, it's completely nonsensical. Giving up, spamming the thread and getting mislynched by a case that could reasonably be refuted is literally 100% negative utility for town.

So of course there isn't gonna be a counterwagon, and this shouldn't discourage anyone from voting for Slamroot today. There's not gonna be a counterwagon because Slamroot's partner is going to bus because the current situation is unsalvageable. What we want to look for is a slot that's acknowledging Slamroot's guilt and probably even voting for them, but whose reasoning isn't sound and whose primary claimed suspicions are elsewhere (and relatively unexplained).

So far Shiny Ursaring fits the bill there and I'd be happy to lynch them tomorrow, but I think there's just no way Slamroot is town.