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On July 15 2014 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Artanis you should read my post after i was afk. You should not be asking these things if you had readthe thread. Everything important is in what i said. Have you read my filter? 
I have not read your filter. Your unafk post is really lengthy and seems boring to read through. Can you give me the cliffnotes on who is scum because of it?
On July 15 2014 05:55 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 05:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
OnceKing, you mention bunnies pulled off the slamroot lynch very specifically. Is it something you suspect her of? Knowing how the lynch would end up?
Poof, is there anyone you consider responsible for making the train happen or was it all brought upon themselves? I think that the initial pressure was warranted. Slam is insanely difficult to read ever. So pressuring him is good. I don't know if anyone was really reasonable for making it happen. I'd say Eden pushing really hard at the end making sure it went through was a townie line to take he seemed convinced it was going to be a hit.
I agree in general with your statement at the end. Tends to be true in most cases and it's something I was looking for to give a free townread on. I'll check how hard he pushed him to see if I agree with you.
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Bunnies:
Some really handsome dude wrote:
Koshi is a good town player and you should expect things to come out of him. Do you have any comments on the case itself?
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On July 15 2014 06:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 06:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Bunnies: Some really handsome dude wrote:
Koshi is a good town player and you should expect things to come out of him. Do you have any comments on the case itself? Why didn't tehpoofter ask me this in qt then?
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I still want to discuss it with Koshi in the qt but I'm not really feeling Haru/Glowing here. I liked Eden's point on Glowing regarding taking the path of most resistance.
Sinani what specifically makes you scum on them?
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On July 16 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 00:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I still want to discuss it with Koshi in the qt but I'm not really feeling Haru/Glowing here. I liked Eden's point on Glowing regarding taking the path of most resistance.
Sinani what specifically makes you scum on them? Could you elaborate more on this? This definitely does not apply to all the people. Is there something to actually back up the statement because to me it looks like some general statement how mafia was played about 5 years ago....
My personal experience dictates that this is a likely indicator for someone whom to my knowledge isn't that experienced with the game.
Also by that sinani should absolutey be mafia, so why are you not pushing him as a lynch and does it not bother you Eden isn't doing so aswell? Why?
Why should he absolutely be mafia because of it?
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On July 16 2014 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 00:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 16 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2014 00:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I still want to discuss it with Koshi in the qt but I'm not really feeling Haru/Glowing here. I liked Eden's point on Glowing regarding taking the path of most resistance.
Sinani what specifically makes you scum on them? Could you elaborate more on this? This definitely does not apply to all the people. Is there something to actually back up the statement because to me it looks like some general statement how mafia was played about 5 years ago.... My personal experience dictates that this is a likely indicator for someone whom to my knowledge isn't that experienced with the game. Also by that sinani should absolutey be mafia, so why are you not pushing him as a lynch and does it not bother you Eden isn't doing so aswell? Why? Why should he absolutely be mafia because of it? So you are just assuming GlowingBear is "bad" because he is new. okay.. Well, i don't assume things. There are multiple things in their teams filter that makes absolutely no sense from town perspective. It's all been pointed out. I probably need to recap it later on so we can lynch scum.
I'm not saying he's bad. I'm saying he's doing something I strongly disassociate with someone being scum. It doesn't matter if you don't like the tells, I think it's accurate.
Because sinani is the definition of "just blending in" and not saying anything useful at all.
He gave us two mafia reads. That's a step in the right direction, now I just need to hear why.
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Robik why do you think Rayn is town? What is this grand majestic tell you've found?
+ Show Spoiler +You can put it in a spoiler if you don't want Rayn to read it.
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So you think he's town because he's doing scummy things to make you think he's scummy that you've pointed out to him before to fool you into thinking he's scum.
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And he wants you to think he's scum when he's town... why?
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On July 16 2014 02:45 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 02:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And he wants you to think he's scum when he's town... why? Cause he wants me to be wrong on him
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It's a good thing you're confirmed town to me or I'd be all over yo ass, beyotch.
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Does voting for Koshi count as a vote on myself?
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Robik why is OK probably not scum?
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On July 16 2014 03:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause he seems like he has some conviction -- it seems like he actually believes that he played a role in getting sqrt lynched and why would he want so much credit for it as scum?
Plus, marv had both him and eden leaning town.
Blame marv if wrong.
I'm not sure I'm willing to give OK the same break as Glowing as he has a bit more experience, but that seems like a decent reason. As for marv reads: Reads of the deceased should just be used as an indicator. I called Koshi nullish when I died on N3 on my last game, D4 he acted scummy as shit. How do you feel OK has played this cycle?
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I really just want those two to show up. Anyway I think Koshi's vote is bad so I'm just gonna change it to TheD as well.
##Unvote
##Vote TheD
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Could you give at least short cliffs on what you thought on Koshi's case? Clearly you changed your read on him and I want to know why.
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Could you to the best of your abilities point out what that something is? Because right now it feels like a very feeble, uncheckable thing.
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On July 16 2014 05:30 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And that's the reason why all the good posts and bad posts are forgotten, around 80% of the thread is just pure shit. If rayn doesn't do anything to act on his bitching and moaning by the time I'm done catching up I probably rather lynch him over bunnies. Complaining about thread direction while not doing something about it is extremely shady
Rayn attacked my initial questions pretty strongly when he didn't know exactly what my purpose with them was. I feel that if he were scum he'd be less inclined to do so and rather try to buddy up to me as he'd want to limit interactions with me. I can read him decently well I believe.
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On July 16 2014 05:36 Eden1892 wrote:
That's sweet of him but what has he actually done this game? All I see is him being thoroughly unconvincing wrt harubear and then bitching about thread direction without making a serious effort to change it.
He can wait until tomorrow I guess but I would bet on him being mafia tbh
He made a massive catchup post that was too boring to read through and I haven't really found anything he posted indicative of mafia. Rayn is quite well known for bitching about things regardless of alignment, so that just leaves the questioning thing which I read as townrayn. It's not much to go off on but it makes me uncomfortable lynching him today.
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On July 16 2014 05:44 Eden1892 wrote:
I also didn't read but he's been called out for inconsistencies in it re: GlowingBear so I'm not sure it's a townie thing
I don't have meta knowledge but I'm not impressed by rayn if this is his town play. Bad logic and directionless whining set off my cactus throne alarms
More problematic for me is: Who can bunnies' partner be if NOT rayn? Someone busing her with a close count? You've said it's not me, harubear, ok or rayn, so that leaves Robik which makes no sense to me.
Making unflipped associations is generally bad. I don't know if it's not OK. I have several people that gave me at least slight townreads and we'll see how they develop as the game goes on. Right now, Bunnies/Poof seems like the most likely slot to flip scum and with no flipped scum so far I'm not going to go by associations.
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