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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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July 05 2014 01:32 GMT
#45
/in
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 07 2014 18:04 GMT
#395
you know when you wake up and just cant face the day?

shit spins and you can think or walk straight

that's how i feel right now
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 08 2014 16:13 GMT
#1018
who is saying that i am mafia right now?

FoS them dudes

Finger the shit out of them
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 09 2014 00:04 GMT
#1208
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22532833
HIGHLIGHT OF THE THREAD THUSFAR

we have been going just over 48 hours so we have another day?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 09 2014 00:05 GMT
#1209
my bad its 36 and 36

god people post too much
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 09 2014 00:18 GMT
#1212
k so i am super tempted to vote that scumslip and go to bed
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 09 2014 01:28 GMT
#1225
page 25, i am liking my notes and i have pinpointed 4-6 good guys does ninja start playing at any point?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 09 2014 18:04 GMT
#1693
still on page 25 but totes called that iamp was town and ninja was 3p

what idiots voted for that lynch?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 09 2014 18:36 GMT
#1723
On July 10 2014 03:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:04 layabout wrote:
still on page 25 but totes called that iamp was town and ninja was 3p

what idiots voted for that lynch?


You mean, what idiot doesn't do anything all game long only to pop in post flip and sound smart when he didn't do anything to get his opinion through while he still had the chance.

If your play D2 is homologous to D1 and you don't bleed town with your posts you can be sure to have me on your ass all game long til you flip dead.

Show us where you made those calls cause I can't see them.

I will try and catch and and post stuff before night since i am probably getting shot but why would i try to direct a town when i haven't had time for even reading the thread?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 09 2014 18:47 GMT
#1730
On July 10 2014 03:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:36 layabout wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:12 Vivax wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:04 layabout wrote:
still on page 25 but totes called that iamp was town and ninja was 3p

what idiots voted for that lynch?


You mean, what idiot doesn't do anything all game long only to pop in post flip and sound smart when he didn't do anything to get his opinion through while he still had the chance.

If your play D2 is homologous to D1 and you don't bleed town with your posts you can be sure to have me on your ass all game long til you flip dead.

Show us where you made those calls cause I can't see them.

I will try and catch and and post stuff before night since i am probably getting shot but why would i try to direct a town when i haven't had time for even reading the thread?


You knew what you were up to when you signed into a game of this size. Don't do it if you can't play the game, no excuses.
Given the huge amount of lurkers in this game I wouldn't even be mad if you didn't come in post flip to make yourself sound so needlessly smart.
I would usually not even be able to say for sure that it makes you scum, but what else am I supposed to read you with, with a filter of your size.

It shows your incredible passivity up until a point where you could somehow make yourself look better.
And you don't answer the question: Where did you state that iamp is town and bunnies third party.

k 80 pages on day 1 for 16-20 players is a fucking joke so go do one
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 09 2014 19:40 GMT
#1761
why are people acting pissed when two 3rd party died on day1?

that 2 threats to town dead when we should have only had a mislynch
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 09 2014 19:48 GMT
#1765
On July 10 2014 04:41 Palmar wrote:
Day will rise at latest 24 hours after nightfall. Get your actions in ASAP. I reserve the right to start day whenever I want. This is done to counter last-minute claiming.

I'm tired of warning people for language. Everyone tone it down please.

there is swearing in the op and nothing against using bad language just "don't be a dick" which is vague and i would assume to refer to trying to ruin the game or making personal attacks and not using naughty language
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 09 2014 19:55 GMT
#1766
On July 10 2014 04:45 Damdred wrote:
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On July 10 2014 04:40 layabout wrote:
why are people acting pissed when two 3rd party died on day1?

that 2 threats to town dead when we should have only had a mislynch


I agree its good that it happened, but what if something worse happened? What if it got a couple blue players like that, bringing the hammer down and getting people like that is just trouble trouble i tell you

in that fictional world it would be fine but we were just gifted a win so all of the negativity and comments like
"this game is completely lost"

look quite silly
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 09 2014 20:44 GMT
#1787
So i know it makes sense to vig me but can you hold off at least for tonight? I am enjoying going through the thread and the lynch isn't for days
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 00:11 GMT
#1796
wow mderg that's pretty scummy

you haven't changed at all since:
On July 08 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's essentially that he felt the need to come in here and be seen interacting with people in the thread, but didn't say a single thing that could even be construed as an opinion. Everyone else who was active early on has continued to show signs of life, but mderg just made a few throwaway posts and then peaced out.

##Vote: mderg

If anyone's got anything better I'm all ears, but I'm not interested in lynching any super active players at least this phase. It's counterproductive. Active players will eventually give you more to go on.

Wait it's an omgus, that's almost an action
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 01:08 GMT
#1799
at page 42 and i can't believe that koshi could head up a wagon

kinda don't want to post properly yet but since you insist kush..
On July 10 2014 09:32 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 08:44 mderg wrote:
On July 08 2014 23:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I actually like yamato and I'm nullish leaning town on prplhz, so I'm actually gonna stop pushing mderg becase A) I'm not getting any support for it and B) because ObiWan is an equally good lynch fmp. So yeah.

##Unvote
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi

This looks really bad to me. Considering how convinced you were of me being scum this unvote was surprisingly easy. I also can´t really grasp your reasons for voting ObiWanShinobi. I think you mentioned him 1 time before that vote and that mention didn´t look like a scumread to me.
So you decide to change your vote from your biggest scumread to someone who somehow is an equally good lynch. There is a lack of explanation and it doesn´t make you look very townie.


Layabout I find your shitting on mderg's post overly simplistic and just untrue.
Look at his reasoning which I quoted. Do you not find that valid? What is scummy about it?


kush the very statement that VE was convinced mderg was scum is untrue.
If you look at VE's posts around the time he is clearly willing to move to Exo could get behind a forumite lynch and is open to nearly anyone that isn't very active as a potential lynch.

Hell look at his vote post:
On July 08 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's essentially that he felt the need to come in here and be seen interacting with people in the thread, but didn't say a single thing that could even be construed as an opinion. Everyone else who was active early on has continued to show signs of life, but mderg just made a few throwaway posts and then peaced out.

##Vote: mderg

If anyone's got anything better I'm all ears, but I'm not interested in lynching any super active players at least this phase. It's counterproductive. Active players will eventually give you more to go on.


On July 08 2014 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: Forumite, I didn't like the reasons he said he was suspicious of Koshi - initially it was because of his fluffy riddle posts at the beginning, and he further went on to say that he "hitched onto" Toad's case on Forumite adding his own "complex reasoning" or whatever. So ultimately that's where his vote is.

And his read on prplhz...like, at first he said like "99% sure" and has described him as confirmed town. And the reasoning he gave is pretty bad - but not one I can really argue with because it's based on a personal metric that may or may not be true.

I want to hear others' thoughts on Forumite. I think ultimately I'd rather wait on him, but I might be convinced to lynch him.



On July 08 2014 10:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On July 08 2014 10:48 yamato77 wrote:
This thread is depressing.

VE, I read mderg before I went to sleep and didn't feel all that put off by his filter. What posts make you feel like he's just posting to post?

Also, could you read ObiWan for me?

Just that he hasn't posted any opinions of anyone or anything that's happened. Like, the only time he has anything even close to relevant to say, it's in response to people calling him out.

It's mostly a "feels" thing with mderg, but it's a strong "feels" for me. He "feels" scummy to me.
I know you love my "feels".
Click the nested bit!!
mderg says that that isn't "close to a scumread" however, I would say it's a description of scummy behavior making it pretty much "close to a scumread" mderg is either lying or is inattentive.

His actions not only fit but match VE's day1 play in nearly every game i have seen him in. VE's vote typically bounces around all over the place. VE is clearly open to a number of lynches and is actively considering other lynche candidate eg corazon. Mderg's point that VE swapped from a hard read to someone who he didn't think was scummy is also totally misrepresentative.

mderg is not only adding a throwaway point but one that is not valid

If you still aren't convinced about VE give this a read:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?user=VisceraEyes&page=2

mderg addresses VE's switch by suggesting that VE never thought mderg was mafia in the first place
This leaves the idea that VE is mafia and acted knowing that mderg is town,
not just in a way suggest's VE is mafia because mderg thinks VE is mafia. This is making a point in the way mafia might attempt to as they benefit from doing so.

I will likely get onto this later but nothing looked town about obiwan's entrance into the thread and i am surprised it hasn't been jumped on yet
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22528115
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 01:11 GMT
#1800
On July 10 2014 10:03 kushm4sta wrote:
layabout you have nothing townie in your filter. just a bunch of promises to read the thread.

yeah well ive been getting to the thread pretty late in the day and i have struggled to motivate myself I have also been going slowly today since there isn't an immediate pressure to catch up and i have devised a new method of making notes. Oh and a bit of IRL and personal stuff.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 01:36 GMT
#1803
On July 10 2014 10:26 IAmRobik wrote:
Yamato, why shouldn't you be lynched?

Please don't answer "because i'm town"

Now you might be wanting his answer but if you don't have the answer for yourself spend a bit less time posting and a bit more reading
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 19:22 GMT
#1958
lol

corazon is in a bad position in the thread

nails a super powered scum role n1 before it does anything

claims it for confirmed town

suicides

ive been absent and drinking
might just post my notes and peace out though it might be a bit unclear
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 22:11 GMT
#1994
VE is a shining beacon of town
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 22:17 GMT
#1998
The point was that VE called mderg scum partly for throwaway posting then leaving mderg did that again and i jumped on it.

kush then said i wasn't looking at mdergs point that VE had a hard read and ditched it for a mislynch

my post was highlighting that mderg point was made in a way to make himself look good whilst attacking ve his accuser and that the thing he was saying about ve was a lie since VE clearly didn't have a hard read and his switch to another target was very predictable

furthermore if you look at mdergs posting today it doesn't exactly say "town agenda"
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 22:46 GMT
#2007
clarifying this:
mderg addresses VE's switch by suggesting that VE never thought mderg was mafia in the first place
This leaves the idea that VE is mafia and acted knowing that mderg is town,
not just in a way suggest's VE is mafia because mderg thinks VE is mafia. This is making a point in the way mafia might attempt to as they benefit from doing so.

what i am saying is in relation to this quote:

mderg talking about a VE voteswitch
This looks really bad to me. Considering how convinced you were of me being scum this unvote was surprisingly easy. I also can´t really grasp your reasons for voting ObiWanShinobi. I think you mentioned him 1 time before that vote and that mention didn´t look like a scumread to me.
So you decide to change your vote from your biggest scumread to someone who somehow is an equally good lynch. There is a lack of explanation and it doesn´t make you look very townie.

mderg exaggerates VE's original position to say that VE was convinced about his read.,
he then tries to make it look as if VE didn't think or at least shouldn't have thought obiwan was mafia, from what had been said in the thread.

mderg then makes the point that the switch was too easy for VE and that, that is scummy since he should have stuck with his hard read.

what mderg is saying suggests that VE's scumread on him was BS since he was willing to switch without saying much.

mderg was calling VE scummy in a way that looks like it was intended to make mderg look good.

i would argue this is scummy since if mderg thought VE was scummy he needs to push that. It doesn't need to be tied in to mderg's own image

but enough of that
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 23:07 GMT
#2010
in response to koshi:
today mderg has:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22552040
tried to discredit yamato who let's be honest, has had town shining out of his arse for quite a long time

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22552107
been critical of corazon who has flipped town since (this is not to say that corazon was acting really town just that it turns out he was)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22552970
acted defensively but conceded validity to the case against him

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22552999
tried to point out specific posts that make him look town

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22553103
pointed out he had a read that he doesn't have anymore

there are a few one liners which dont add much

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22554088
this post has no value but if you follow it you might get confused, what is the point of it?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22554556
big space for a post, we have a null read wifom and a correction about how mafia's shot's work

a lot of these post's could be interpreted as having mafia goals behind them some quite clearly others less so or not at all. However you have to make quite an effort to see these posts as coming from a pro-town mindset.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22554887
criticism of a case follow by insults


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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 00:01 GMT
#2016
On July 11 2014 08:53 Toadesstern wrote:
actually that's an instavote right now

##vote Bill Murray

yeah i think he need to say a bit more before we speculate since you don't get informed of a roleblock
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 00:18 GMT
#2018
i mean he was ignoring you and when it gets spammed out and people read through it they would need think about it but probably wouldn't, so i just made the thread more readable
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 00:35 GMT
#2021
On July 11 2014 09:28 Toadesstern wrote:
well I quoted the thing about 30-40 minutes after he posted his claim inbetween a dotagame so I don't think calling it "ignoring me" is really possible. Probably him not being around anymore, or at least that's what it looks like.

Pretty sure I would have continued pressuring it hard had he ignored it and brought attention to it had people spammed it away... Now I'm forced to consider whatever kind of bullshit reason he brings to the table at facevalue and consider it a null

Yes thread more readable, but a possible scumslip made useless... whatever no point in whining about spilled milk
Out of game info shrug

I can think of two things which would make it valid as town, it could be a poorly thought out move by scum but if it was as soon as any attention was drawn to it he would start to act careful anyway

At the moment i can't call forumite town in any way and i like everyone that was on his wagon. I think a forumite lynch should be on the table.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:03 GMT
#2025
what do you think about forumite you two?

as far as i can see at every point in day 1 he wasn't paying attention to the things that were important at the time
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:21 GMT
#2032
this was quite weird to me:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22536617
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
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On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?


On July 09 2014 06:53 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082

Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that.

Thanks. Yes, I remember reading that case, it´s quite good, also it´s not about lynching me which is a bonus.

##Vote: iamperfection

Best case scenario he isn't paying attention to the game.

But at that point forumite had been posting since the case and koshi toad and a little before that slOosh posting about the case and robo had adressed it. If forumite had read it and was willing to vote in support of it you would expect it to have been on his mind and not an afterthought. He also doesn't attempt to add anything. His need to have the case linked to him also highlights how lazy forumite is being with his vote which he should care about but doesn't.

Italicized might be a joke but i feel like pointing it out
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:29 GMT
#2037
On July 11 2014 10:24 kushm4sta wrote:
forumite isn't reading. once you realize that it makes him look townier.

it's funny and sad

sidenote-I have only made it to page 60 although i have read 85 to current too
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:31 GMT
#2038
yamato ritoky was also very anti-ninjabunnies

i would take sinani out of that kill list his play has been really good
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July 11 2014 01:36 GMT
#2042
but ninjabunnies was 3p so it couldn't be a bus
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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July 11 2014 01:45 GMT
#2048
i am not worried about ritoky right now

the most valuable things from obi's flip in my eyes are the things people said about him and this list:
obiwanshinobi (3): prplhz, exo_, yamato77

*green colour is potentially subject to change although unlikely to
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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July 11 2014 02:13 GMT
#2059
a case on yamato is a case against town values
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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July 11 2014 02:22 GMT
#2063
rito cut out the drugs they appear to have addled your brain

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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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July 11 2014 02:30 GMT
#2065
We aren't allowed to ask questions to the mod in the thread, but the way this is worded is disturbing to me. Cuz normal janitor has the body flip but it flips as ??????. This says the person mysteriously disappears and will not flip. So uhhhh, does that mean someone could be dead in the game right now and we don't know about it?

If that's the case I might just systematically start voting on every single person in the game, wait for a vote count to confirm they are alive, then move to the next person.

has anyone not posted yet at all this day phase? would like to confirm that they are actually alive by voting on them.
wat wat wat, the less we say about it the better i guess. I think i get the logic but it has nothing to do with catching mafia.

ritoky's push on yamato means i might consider him in the morning but our prime suspects are mderg and forumite
damdred is a possible lynch too but i think we limit it there
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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July 11 2014 02:46 GMT
#2069
ritoky yamato has consistently shown that his focus is on town goals

He is the first to pick up on obiwan and goes to great effort to push the lynch,
he interupts unproduction conversations
On July 08 2014 00:55 yamato77 wrote:
The forumite discussion has now lost purpose

and bring discussion towards the lynch, he is mindful of majority lynch he makes townreads that are sharp and their timing feels natural. He is on bunnies's case and he is confident in his posts.

How do you explain his corazon read and obiwan read without it feeling contrived or the aid of a tinfoil hat?
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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July 11 2014 02:49 GMT
#2070
it's also worth noting that at the time forumite and obi lynches had support from a lot of people (if not exclusively) that i would label town but they fail to get very far, once some of the louder voices moved from those two to iamp the wagon gathered momentum quite quickly.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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July 11 2014 13:22 GMT
#2148
I think a forumite lynch could give some good info and i was a little torn between the two but mderg's vote on Exo is inexcusable.
dude basically claimed mafia.


I could see hiro being mafia. The BM push is bullshit we have good reason to suspect others so why would you jump on a LAL lynch?
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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July 11 2014 14:16 GMT
#2153
silly colours!

however, i fail to see how the robik sinani bm interaction makes bm scum
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July 11 2014 14:37 GMT
#2156
we have 7 on mderg i will add my vote but i might wait a while i don't want to waste the day
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July 11 2014 16:24 GMT
#2181
i wanna hammer
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July 11 2014 17:30 GMT
#2196
BRING ON THE HAMMER!!!

##vote: mderg
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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July 11 2014 19:01 GMT
#2216
might need to rush off and i dont have time for full analysis but...

these were the 3 main important lynches:
obwian (Mafia) forumite(?) and iamp(town)

obi wagon at it's highest
obiwanshinobi (4): prplhz, exo_, visceraeyes, yamato77

i feel like prplhz and exo are town but might need to look over it

fourmite wagons at it's highest
forumite (7): toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, bill, alakaslam, koshi

toad sloosh and huruh are the ones i would be least confident calling town followed by billl

full iamp wagon:
iamperfection (14): prplhz, toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, yamato77, alakaslam, koshi, forumite, vivax , sinani, corazon


people on iamp wagon that weren't on either of the other two
iamperfection (14): obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, forumite, vivax , sinani, corazon

of this group we know obi was mafia and that corazon was town, i am willing to label kush and sinani town so this suggest vivax or forumite is scum

playerlist minus 3 main wagons
IAmRobik town
iamperfection town
layabout
ritoky
batsnacks
mderg
Damdred
Forumite
HiroPro
Tehpoofter 3rd party
27ninjabunnies 3rd party

maybe someone could colour it?
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July 11 2014 19:18 GMT
#2219
toad i just moved you off my "surefire town" list not calling you scum i am just less sure now
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July 11 2014 20:05 GMT
#2223
dude i havent even read everything yet but i have still manage to post about what is relevant

that was totally not worth the wait we should have just killed him
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July 11 2014 20:06 GMT
#2224
like 3 town reads and 4 "leaning towns" wtf is that?
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July 11 2014 20:12 GMT
#2227
sorry 2 leaning town

if he is saying there are only 5 people he thinks could be town then he isn't keeping up i have about 12
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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July 11 2014 20:14 GMT
#2228
koshi you aren't thinking straight bill looked quite good yesterday and if as a tracker he is significantly more likely to be town

anyone can make a list post like mderg just did and he only did it because if he didn't he would get auto-lynched
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July 11 2014 20:21 GMT
#2231
On July 12 2014 05:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 05:12 layabout wrote:
sorry 2 leaning town

if he is saying there are only 5 people he thinks could be town then he isn't keeping up i have about 12

Yeah, but you aren't on the chopping block.

If he is town he might wants his reads to be really valuable. So he is not going to take the risk of calling people town whom he is not sure off.

In your list of 12. Are these 5 the strongest townreads?
nope, not close

he doesn't have any of the townreads on people that have less presence or might get overlooked but have still done enough to look town for example sinani or alakaslam, you know the read that you get if you are paying attentionj behind or not.

he has instead gone for people who tend to have more presence and attention like toad you and ve, the kind of townies that look more obvious to mafia since they are worried about people listening to them
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July 11 2014 20:23 GMT
#2233
On July 12 2014 05:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 05:14 layabout wrote:
koshi you aren't thinking straight bill looked quite good yesterday and if as a tracker he is significantly more likely to be town

anyone can make a list post like mderg just did and he only did it because if he didn't he would get auto-lynched

Bill looked like utter shit yesterday. He didn't fucking play the game. How did he look good? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

He was a N1 kill in TL Order. He was trash D1 and did a fucking ridiculous tracker claim on D2.
What if Sinani was our doc???? Lucky he was just the masoner.

Why should a townie reveal a track target to a person who did not die. I was an actual possible NK. Sinani could be town cop or town doc or who the fuck knows. As long as I didn't die there was no reason to claim.

Bill actually cared about the lynch and addressed the main wagons which is more than can be said for some even if it looked like he didn't do much he still had his priorities straight
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22539419
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July 11 2014 20:33 GMT
#2239
On July 12 2014 05:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 05:23 layabout wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:20 Koshi wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:14 layabout wrote:
koshi you aren't thinking straight bill looked quite good yesterday and if as a tracker he is significantly more likely to be town

anyone can make a list post like mderg just did and he only did it because if he didn't he would get auto-lynched

Bill looked like utter shit yesterday. He didn't fucking play the game. How did he look good? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

He was a N1 kill in TL Order. He was trash D1 and did a fucking ridiculous tracker claim on D2.
What if Sinani was our doc???? Lucky he was just the masoner.

Why should a townie reveal a track target to a person who did not die. I was an actual possible NK. Sinani could be town cop or town doc or who the fuck knows. As long as I didn't die there was no reason to claim.

Bill actually cared about the lynch and addressed the main wagons which is more than can be said for some even if it looked like he didn't do much he still had his priorities straight
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22539549
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22539419

Hmmm. Ok. Good point. Still. Those posts are not impossible to make as scum.
The list mderg just posted is worth more than those 2 posts from BillMurray.

except bill wasn't under pressure to make them and at the time much of the talk was unproductive but he was posting "productively" (this isn't to say that bill is definitely town but that i would lean that way

mderg's list is the last ditch attempt to survive and it contains a comparitively small list of easy to make townreads, and a scumteam of people pushing for his lynch, he doesn't seem to have looked carefully at anything. If he were to flip town (he won't) he would have added very little of value
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July 11 2014 22:36 GMT
#2278
Phone posting
mderg if you read them as town and you were town you would have said

plus all this posturing about voting for yourself is typically something mafia said

can we flip him? Fuck all is going to happen and i am tired of waiting
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July 12 2014 01:22 GMT
#2291
Ffs do iit
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July 12 2014 03:23 GMT
#2301
Really??

mderg wtf
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July 12 2014 17:44 GMT
#2336
We should post at night talking about role stuff might have limited or possibly negative value but talking and trying is always good for town

i just like having time where the game isn't dominating my thoughts so i try not to
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July 12 2014 17:47 GMT
#2339
We can lunch bm for being confusing and not giving a shit but it's a dull road my feet tire of treading and beginning of the day set lynches kill the thread super goddamn hard and remove any pressure for town and mafia alike to actually play
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July 12 2014 19:58 GMT
#2361
On July 13 2014 04:37 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 04:31 prplhz wrote:
On July 13 2014 04:24 Damdred wrote:
Just going to turn over a townie though

oh

well i guess we lynch someone else then


Listen you honestly posted a good argument for me being scum and I can respect that. Since I know i'm up on the chopping block i'll start getting my thoughts in order and at least give one good post before I go on the reasons I think people are town or scummy in my mind and then you guys can really hammer me if you really want.


stop being diplomatic and grow a pair
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July 13 2014 12:00 GMT
#2490
On July 13 2014 15:02 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 13:35 kushm4sta wrote:
did you hit it though?

User was temp banned for this post.


in a girl blog

gj kush

And people want that level of moderation here ...

BM as far as i can tell nothing happened to me last night
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July 13 2014 12:09 GMT
#2491
On July 13 2014 14:22 Bill Murray wrote:
Last night, Kush, Ill have you know, I tracked you


On July 13 2014 14:23 kushm4sta wrote:
so why can't you be scum tracker?


On July 13 2014 14:26 kushm4sta wrote:
can someone else who is paying attention to the mechanics of the game confirm or deny this?


On July 13 2014 14:27 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 14:26 kushm4sta wrote:
can someone else who is paying attention to the mechanics of the game confirm or deny this?

how about you confirm or deny whether or not you no visited.


On July 13 2014 14:33 kushm4sta wrote:
bm what was your "plan" tho

This is pretty telling

If kush was town and visited somebody why he respond like this?
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July 13 2014 12:25 GMT
#2492
It feels to me like mafia are sitting back, i am having doubts about forumite as scum damdred and hiro seem an okay bet and ritoky is also a solid chance, other than that there is batsnacks and HaruH as possibilities?
+ Show Spoiler +
What is the code for a page break?


since we have a lynch I feel like indulging in setup speculation!
so first storm mafia we had a janitor a doctor a roleblocker and a poisoner (delayed vig 2 kp)

it looks like the janitor was merged with the poisoner but surely they would have protected obi night 1 so i thinks no doctor

a rolecop would make sense since mafia lost the first one shooting people with bulletproof and a hider that had been given a protect so we tried to shoot him again, argh it still piss's me off.
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July 13 2014 14:57 GMT
#2495
dead thread is dead
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July 13 2014 16:03 GMT
#2506
On July 13 2014 21:09 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 14:22 Bill Murray wrote:
Last night, Kush, Ill have you know, I tracked you


Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 14:23 kushm4sta wrote:
so why can't you be scum tracker?


Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 14:26 kushm4sta wrote:
can someone else who is paying attention to the mechanics of the game confirm or deny this?


Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 14:27 Bill Murray wrote:
On July 13 2014 14:26 kushm4sta wrote:
can someone else who is paying attention to the mechanics of the game confirm or deny this?

how about you confirm or deny whether or not you no visited.


Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 14:33 kushm4sta wrote:
bm what was your "plan" tho

This is pretty telling

If kush was town and visited somebody why he respond like this?

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July 13 2014 16:14 GMT
#2511
because when somebody say they tracked you and you are town your immediate response is to call them a scum tracker??
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July 13 2014 16:48 GMT
#2520
kush acts as if believes that BM is a tracker and has a check
however kush does not show any interest in BM's check

now if i had been tracked i would want to know where i had apparently gone because if i was lied to i would know it and if we didn't then lynch the claim the moment i flip everyone knows the claim is BS and we would lynch BM in this case. The check is important but is especially important for kush. If kush were a blue and had visited somebody he might act more concerned or annoyed that he had been outed as a power role but he would have all the more reason to hope that BM was lying since then he might not have to out himself, but he wouldn't be able to do that until BM claimed his full check.

Instead Kush discredits BM and tries to get us to lynch him. Now if kush is mafia this makes a ton more sense

the timing on that ban is horrific holy fuck
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July 13 2014 16:56 GMT
#2525
Toad what do you think of the idea that BM is a town tracker and tracked Kush doing maifa things last night and kush was calling BM scum to try to get 1 last mislynch?
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July 13 2014 17:02 GMT
#2528
On July 14 2014 01:58 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 01:56 layabout wrote:
Toad what do you think of the idea that BM is a town tracker and tracked Kush doing maifa things last night and kush was calling BM scum to try to get 1 last mislynch?

certainly possible

how possible?
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July 13 2014 17:05 GMT
#2531
then why is Kush's behaviour consistent with him being caught mafia?
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July 13 2014 17:06 GMT
#2532
50/50 is avoiding making a judgement
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July 13 2014 17:19 GMT
#2537
VE what do you make of toad?
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July 13 2014 17:27 GMT
#2540
Everybody needs to look at this and fucking post
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July 13 2014 19:36 GMT
#2558
nope he decided to make a joke and got banned like a fucktard now he can't post but we still have to lynch him because the information we have makes it super likely he is mafia
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July 13 2014 19:57 GMT
#2560
why wait he is totally mafia?
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July 13 2014 23:02 GMT
#2579
FIRST GAME HAD A POISONER! (DELAYED KP) THAT WOULD SOLVE SHIT I THINKING
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July 13 2014 23:03 GMT
#2580
Don't post at host in thread
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July 14 2014 02:06 GMT
#2604
still drunk but toas is super fucking mafia

think about it

i will explain later
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July 14 2014 02:08 GMT
#2605
*toad

like, even in nthe face of having confirmed mafia in front of him and even when i pressed the issue he refused to evaluate the situation objectively and instead pushed a blatantly mafia agenda.

Also there is no way a town VE would act the way VE did this game.

Mafia thought they could get a mislynch today and they failed
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July 14 2014 02:12 GMT
#2607
50/50 my arse Toad

you won a world cup but you and yor mafia friends have lost this game

i gave you so many chances to bus but you left it too late
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July 14 2014 02:24 GMT
#2611
Toad was pushing a mafia agenda yesterday

that should be clear to everyone
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July 14 2014 02:50 GMT
#2616
Toad's immediate reaction totally matched kushes

calling BM mafia instead of trying to stop and thing about what was likely

He also tried to avoid my questions and focused intensely of the role and mechanics side and avoided talking about what kush did and what bm looked like in general- their behavior and what it suggested their likely alignment were. THis is particluarly clear when he said it was a 50/50. There is a way of looking at the game which states that 50/50 was the chances yesterday but anybody actually playing the game has a bias because they will have made the effort to try to assess both of the players as being more likely to be town or mafia. Toad was clearly try to tell us all that BM was scum doing some convoluted ploy to get a mislynch when that required a lot of things that didn't really make sense to happen but kush being mafia was equally as likely? That is total bollocks and he only said it because he knew it was true and that he would probably have to vote for kush if town opened their fucking eyes.

He tried to stick to the whole "BM was confusing therefore he was mafia" argument which is super easy to do as mafia and something he should know better than to do given the amount of time he has been of this forum and spent in games with BM.

Try reading Toads post with the assumption that Toad is mafia and use the flips we have to asses them. It makes a ton of sense.
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July 14 2014 10:21 GMT
#2682
If i so die pls read over what toad did yesterday again, plus since we seem to think forumite is town toads day 1 looks a little different.

i think i read somewhere that this type of push and reaction has happened to forumite before with him and town and i think it has.

similarly VE claimed watcher his head should roll one way or another and ve hasn't been posting confidently or as freely as i would expect

i am uncertain about ritkoy but i would lean on him as likely town rather than scum
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July 14 2014 12:52 GMT
#2700
If there is another 3party i shall be most pissed SK's are bullshit

wonder if haruh crumbed his protects it could maybe explain missing kp

koshi explain those comments to VE about roleblocks, minions etc and do it now
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July 14 2014 22:13 GMT
#2734
koshi you just wanted to get shot so you can say you played well

what happened to breadcrumbing? It was super fun to do

if you all don't post more i'm voting for myself
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July 14 2014 23:40 GMT
#2756
Toad has been selling us a narritive
you do realize that the whole point of me was that he scumslipped and lied and thus I didn't believe his claim because I thought he scumslipped?

and it's a narritive that paints toad as a much worse player than i think he is and than he seems to think he is, and i think there is a very good chance that he is mafia

i just felt like having a day off and i am pretty demotivated since most of the players still in the game are staying quiet or keeping their thoughts to themselves and there hasn't been all that much to asses from them in the last two days
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 15 2014 01:01 GMT
#2759
internet died

hiro i want your thoughts on more people

As it stands there are too many people not playing

Alakslam is banned
vivax has been away for 4 days
Exo_ has posted twice in 4 days
HaruH has posted t 3-4 times in the last 4 days
BM hasn't posted since the Kush lynch despite having possibly relevant information
Forumite has posted once in over 24 hours

batsnacks, ritoky and hiro have more or less tunnel visioned

if you are town you need to start sharing your fucking thoughts because with at least 2 mafia and a potential sk or extra mafia to lynch if we are unlucky we still have to catch
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 15 2014 01:29 GMT
#2760
If people by and large aren't seeing toad a scum i might put the idea on hold.

It really bugs me that ritoky labels those posts "vote analysis"

it's vote data

the analysis is the bit that you do with it that he hasn't done
for instance:
On July 14 2014 10:32 ritoky wrote:
updating previous posts with this day's voting info

+ Show Spoiler +
D1:

iamperfection (14): prplhz, toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, yamato77, alakaslam, koshi, forumite, vivax, sinani206, corazon
corazon (2): iamperfection, iamrobik
exo_ (1): damdred
ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies
obiwanshinobi (1): exo_
forumite (1): bill
hiropro (1): batsnacks

Non-voters: ritoky, hiropro, mderg, layabout, tehpoofter

Note: underlines are for 3rd party

D2:

exo_ (1): mderg
billmurray (3): toadesstern, yamato77, hiropro
mderg (11): sloosh, vivax, harurh, sinani206, kushm4sta, alakaslam, exo_, prplhz, layabout, forumite, damnedred
forumite (3): visceraeyes, billmurray, koshi


Non-voters: ritoky, corazon, vivax, batsnacks


D3:

billmurray (1): kushm4sta
kushm4sta (10): toadesstern, sloosh, visceraeyes, batsnacks, yamato77, forumite, bill murray, hiropro, ritoky, harurh

Non-voters: layabout, koshi, vivax, exo_, damnedred, alakaslam

Note: layabout and bill murray are now green because they are 99.9% confirmed town.

I believe that in the end mafia would prefer to be on the list of voters for kushmaster than not once they thought he was doomed. kush would have died yesterday or today so whilst a mislynch was desirable it would not be worth the risk of exposing more members of the team. Even if they tried to save kush once it was clear that he would get lynched then, being on the wagon make them look a whole lot better than not.
kushm4sta (10): toadesstern, sloosh, visceraeyes, batsnacks, yamato77, forumite, bill murray, hiropro, ritoky, harurh

So if you agree with my initial statement mafia are likelier to be in;
Group 1:
kushm4sta:toadesstern, sloosh, batsnacks, yamato77, forumite, hiropro, ritoky, harurh

Than in group 2:
Non-voters: layabout, koshi, vivax, exo_, damnedred, alakaslam

Next i would use my thoughts about the players in question to trim group 1 down to:
batsnacks forumite hiropro ritoky harurh

and after looking into that i might say that we should kill batsnacks or ritoky

and since he never bothered to do any of this i would then say that we should kill ritoky.

^^^^^
Vote analysis
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 15 2014 01:44 GMT
#2764
your recent posting is over a page of conversational posts that are sort of attacking toad and you place a vote with nothing to support it it's hardly any better
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 15 2014 01:54 GMT
#2766
prior to yesterday my preference would have been damdred - > ritoky -> bat

given that he went nowhere i don't see why i would want to move ritoky up that order

even before he stopped playing vivax did nothing to make it onto any of my lists of town hero's peope with town points or people to be weary of so i could consider lynching him before bat if we are still playing or decide to lynch bat at all.

we shouldn't forget all this:
[quote]VE:
I watched yamato N1 and Toad N2. I got no results back both nights

Koshi:
N1 VE --> Didn't go anywhere. roleblocked?
N2 Forumite --> Didn't go anywhere.
N3 Ritoky --> Didn't go anywhere.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 15 2014 02:10 GMT
#2769
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 15 2014 15:36 GMT
#2874
if i were to vote viavx it would be for doing nothing significant despite posting a lot then disappearing, it would be policy in part

damdred gave me weird vibes at the start and has done nothing to change that

##Vote Damdred
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 16 2014 12:35 GMT
#2952
that's not a fair assesment

you weren't involved when you were here but you were active, you clearly aren't invested in trying to figure out the game whilst when you roll town you quite clearly are.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 16 2014 12:38 GMT
#2954
6 and a half hours..
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 16 2014 12:41 GMT
#2955
On July 16 2014 21:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 21:35 layabout wrote:
that's not a fair assesment

you weren't involved when you were here but you were active, you clearly aren't invested in trying to figure out the game whilst when you roll town you quite clearly are.


Provide your point with quotes from my filter and comment on the post I made about you please.

no

i don't need to my point is valid without window dressing
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 16 2014 16:03 GMT
#2997
vivax if you actually question be being town at this point i will vote to lynch you

i don't need to answer your questions it's just how i feel about the game
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 16 2014 16:03 GMT
#2998
"question me being town"
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 16 2014 20:52 GMT
#3079
lame

this will be a whimper unless there's taht day vig bomber role

i feel terrible
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 17 2014 22:40 GMT
#3113
shall i end the day?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 17 2014 22:53 GMT
#3120
now doesn't the spectrum of reads essentially tell mafia who they can kill to survive and who they can leave to vote with?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 17 2014 22:56 GMT
#3122
i want more time actually can someone unvote
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 17 2014 23:14 GMT
#3126
i am going to bed i want 24 hours more before we do this

the ritoky shot heavily suggests that there is a 3rd party

if we have mislynched 3 times would we not lose with another one? Or have modkills changed that?
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 19 2014 11:47 GMT
#3240
yesterday i went to go play games with friends when i work un until about 8:00pm
i got home at 2:00am and went to sleep

i wanted a delay on the vote because batsnacks masoned to me but hadn't and still hasn't responded to me in the qt, yet he still tried to hammer a townie

wtf bat

plus the qt runs out at the end of each cycle
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 19 2014 12:31 GMT
#3243
i don't object to that but i wouldn't mind, if not a full claim at least the masoner to come forward in the morning
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 19 2014 13:13 GMT
#3246
if there is another operator then we are missing information about an awful lot of people being connected
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 20 2014 14:59 GMT
#3309
On July 20 2014 13:03 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 12:24 slOosh wrote:
I think ... if you are silent in the QTs and silent in thread ... you really don't care about the game.


Ok

So you don't disagree with me.

not talking violates rule number 1

you are a dick
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 20 2014 15:01 GMT
#3310
an sk 2 other 3p with kp and a mafia team with a least 2 extra kills is really silly
i am not buying an sk in this setup
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 20 2014 15:17 GMT
#3312
look i am busy and im pisssed off with batsnacks enough to just vote for him, he deserves it

we should lynch hiro today his poush on damdred looked okay but it's all there really is
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 20 2014 19:44 GMT
#3323
[s]sk means we had 3 kp from 3rd parties per night and mafia with either 1 or 2 kp +2 extra shots and a town vig

that is retarded/[s]

sorry toad i hadn't realised the vengueful sprirts could only shoot once

i might vote, hiro is super not town
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 20 2014 19:50 GMT
#3325
where is batsnacks' vote?

On July 20 2014 15:09 batsnacks wrote:
##vote: WiIe E. Coyote
##vote: AIakasIam



On July 20 2014 17:57 batsnacks wrote:
##Vote: WiIe E. Coyote
##Vote: AIakasIam


On July 21 2014 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
Official Votecount

hiropro (4): toadesstern, sloosh, billmurray, wilee.coyote

With 8 players alive it takes 5.0 votes to lynch.

Last update 17:30 GMT (+00:00)


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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 21 2014 17:30 GMT
#3400
I did put some effort into the game but once I realized that half the game isn't playing I really didn't put anything into the game anymore


The claim was bad but town were worse nothing to be proud of

also cora was such a dick
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 21 2014 17:40 GMT
#3409
So all in all after that game i feel much better about my ability to find townies

day 1 all of my townreads proved correct and in the entire game the only scum i had down as town at any point was BM when he gave us kush of course i should have reevaluated him later but i had forgotten just how much i hate playing with bill

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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 21 2014 17:41 GMT
#3411
damdred why didn't you fight your lynch?

you were right abot vivax
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 21 2014 17:42 GMT
#3413
On July 22 2014 02:41 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 02:39 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 22 2014 02:34 Palmar wrote:
On July 22 2014 02:33 Toadesstern wrote:
PALMAR, include notifications. Had I know that I was shot on n1 I would have totally been more motivated. I really got frustrated that I was still alive later on and thought mafia was mocking me à la "lol keep Toad alive, the guy is wrong about everything he says"

I (personally) think notifications give town way too much information that they don't need. My games have never had notifications.

yeah I know and I actually agree but it was so frustrating going in this, thinking I was obviously town to EVERYONE early on and I'm still alive for some reason. Wasn't a complaint to be taken seriously

I do think you should include the "post at least once a cycle" or "once every 48 hours" rule if you keep the instant hammer though. If you're telling people to post at least that much via pm, might as well include it as a rule from the get go. Sure it can be a strategy for mafia but I think it'd make for better games with that as a bottom line.


yeah I'll consider it.

btw, mafia kp formula was "2 KP".

that's so painful to read
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 17:49:46
July 21 2014 17:49 GMT
#3421
i mostly jumped on your lynch because i filtered Hiro since he hadn't done much and he had made a bunch if valid points, prplhz had too and then my townreads were also willing to lynch you, then the next day i voted for hiro because pushing you was pretty much all he had done and he wasn't trying

i am terrible
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 21 2014 18:26 GMT
#3448
I am salty bill i let things slide specifically because it was you and the fact that i will tolerate bullshit because you have repeatedly played like an arsehole makes me ashamed of myself. That doesn't have to be an insult there is plenty of evidence supporting it.

for instance the roleblock, the fake claim on exo and the hey guys i forgot to send in an action

plus the game was essentially decided because a bunch of people stopped playing, eventually i became guilty of this too but at least i had done enough to shit green to anyone reading.

I'm also sad since this is my last game here for at least 2 years, i might do a proper post explaining why later.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 21 2014 22:20 GMT
#3501
On July 22 2014 06:32 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
Well you should have lynched BM on the spot for trying to get a townie lynched for no reason with a fake check, followed by expressing disappointment that the townie didn't get lynched.

No-one seemed to bat an eyelid.

I was raging pretty hard at him the entire game and got a crapton of flak for it "omfg Toad, BM so obviously town. He delivered us a check. TRUST THE CHECK"

and laya just kept on saying that it's BM, don't mind him

at that point i said that it made sense to beleive he was the tracker. 3/4 day later it didn't but nobody was discussing anything we were lazily killing off people that were playing and didn't look town

which happens way too much
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 21 2014 22:53 GMT
#3509
On July 22 2014 07:47 Toadesstern wrote:
Yeah, we all know it's VE because of Storm Mafia 1 and that he just thought it would be super impolite to repeat the same kind of ownage he did in the first one.

bulletproof is the lamest mechanic ever
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