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On July 08 2014 01:20 kushm4sta wrote: thanks robik. friends dont let friends big games. you're welcome. It's IML, so the pain won't last long.
For the record, I think that if you were town or PR in any of the big games you play, you wouldn't be as upset
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On July 08 2014 01:24 kushm4sta wrote: rob i haven't look at my role pm yet but nice theory. the issue is it's too many pages to read. Says the person who keeps trying to force mods to confirm that all mafia have read their role PM. w/e dude. You say this every game, and I'm pretty sure you're lying about it every game (I know you read it in Order, cause you were one of the first in the mafia QT), but I don't remember if you said you didn't in the game thread like you have in the past 2 games
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On July 08 2014 01:37 Vivax wrote: Can Cav, Robik and VE explain what about kush's post makes him instascum? 1) He practically admitted to not wanting to play the game 2) He doesn't like playing as mafia, especially in big games 3) He isn't going to enjoy the game anyway, so if he is town, I'm doing him a favor, if he's mafia, I'm doing town a favor
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On July 08 2014 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 01:37 Vivax wrote: Can Cav, Robik and VE explain what about kush's post makes him instascum? i voted him to blend in with the town. i was really hoping nobody would call me on it shit gg. Man, on a scale of 1-10, how much do you want to be me?!!??! Seems like it's a 15
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On July 08 2014 01:46 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 01:45 iamperfection wrote:On July 08 2014 01:44 kushm4sta wrote: nah people who are voting me are plynching me, which i dont disagree with. I'm trying to bring awareness to this invisible form of cheating.
obiwan acting over the top tooscummytobescum. don't like.
No one gives a shit about you stupid crusade. my crusade is righteous. I agree -- people should read their role pm -- especially mafia Having said that, please stop being a d****************** about it and practice what you preach.
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On July 08 2014 01:48 kushm4sta wrote: but you realize i could have said nothing and avoid your vig/plynch right? that is the true crime i want to bring awareness to. Yeah, but essentially you can't say you're town cause you weren't trying to save yourself from getting killed. The true crime is that not looking at your role PM means that you're playing against your win-con.
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Toad,
Your whole post is trying to say "forumite is too ballsy and for that I'm townreading him" but you're avoiding doing the latter at all costs. Why not just say something if you wanna say it. Why are you holding back
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On July 08 2014 01:53 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 01:51 IAmRobik wrote:On July 08 2014 01:48 kushm4sta wrote: but you realize i could have said nothing and avoid your vig/plynch right? that is the true crime i want to bring awareness to. Yeah, but essentially you can't say you're town cause you weren't trying to save yourself from getting killed. The true crime is that not looking at your role PM means that you're playing against your win-con. NOPE. not looking at your role pm until n1 is neutral to a town wincon and greatly favors a scum wincon. Therefore it is to your advantage to do every game. YUP. 100% playing against your wincon. Especially when you say "I haven't read my role pm, so you can kill me cause lollonggamedontwannatryanyway"
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I'm down to IML plynch kush whenever we have enough players to do so.
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On July 08 2014 02:00 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 01:55 IAmRobik wrote: Toad,
Your whole post is trying to say "forumite is too ballsy and for that I'm townreading him" but you're avoiding doing the latter at all costs. Why not just say something if you wanna say it. Why are you holding back nah, the whole point of the post is to explain that I've got two conflicting points about him. 1) the mini-case on him which certainly makes him look like he's not town 2) his reaction to all this, which does makes him look like town in my book I think both points are really good, at the least we've had a bunch of people stating that 1) is good so far, but most people ignore to give the 2nd one some thought, which makes it important enough to be pointed out. It's a post to get more opinions from people though. I'm not trying to get someone lynched with it. I want to hear what people make of it. The problem is that:
But his response is so damn ballsy that I want some more posts from him
seems like an illogical conclusion. The logical answer would be something along the lines of:
"But his response is so damn ballsy that I kinda think he's town for it"
then you can mentioned that you're conflicted and want him to post more
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On July 08 2014 02:03 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 02:01 IAmRobik wrote: I'm down to IML plynch kush whenever we have enough players to do so. rob that's dumb. it's way too soon. give it a few days then if no one really scummy emerges I will help plynch myself. More admission to playing against wincon
Just play the damn game Kush. Stop this nonsense
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On July 08 2014 02:05 Vivax wrote: Yea kush stop being an ass and read your PM if you haven't.
Does somebody else want to chime in onto VE and forumite, who fucked off x2 or am I fighting a lonely fight?
Robik, did you already forget that kush claiming to not have read his PM has happened in the recent past and I don't recall you going instalynch on him?
I did though cause he wasn't trying to solve the game, initially, but I wouldn't get that notion just from his first post. If I recall correctly, his entrance was way townier in that game. The entrance here reminded me more of his entrance in Order. I could be wrong though. I'll go check it out
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On July 08 2014 02:12 Toadesstern wrote: If anything I trust my mini-case way more than my judgement about how likely he is to slip or not, so if anything he's still way on the mafia-side of reads. I'm just having 2nd thoughts about it because of his ballsyness.
If you're such a god that you don't ever question yourself 10 hours into the game and think everything you've said has to be correct, be my guest to take that stance but I won't. And I won't listen to a thing you say if you actually think that's how people should play mafia like. That's not the point I'm making. I apprecaite you questioning yourself. I don't appreciate you dilly dallying around your feelings that he is town for the second part. You have ample opportunity in what you wrote to say "so i kinda lean towny on him for that, but still don't like his opening so meh, 50/50 and contiuing to reevaluate" But you didn't say that. You avoided calling him town for being ballsy and said "id like to hear more from him"
whatever. it's something to think about
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On July 08 2014 02:22 27ninjabunnies wrote: Robik, why the hell you didn't tell me the game started?! Such a friend you are.
Seriously thought this game was starting later in the day!!!
Eeek.
Hi guys! How's it going?! Cause I'm not on skype and only found out that the game started when I logged into TL. Plus, it's not a PM game, and we're not mafia together, so there would be no reason for me to message you
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On July 08 2014 02:05 Vivax wrote: Yea kush stop being an ass and read your PM if you haven't.
Does somebody else want to chime in onto VE and forumite, who fucked off x2 or am I fighting a lonely fight?
Robik, did you already forget that kush claiming to not have read his PM has happened in the recent past and I don't recall you going instalynch on him?
I did though cause he wasn't trying to solve the game, initially, but I wouldn't get that notion just from his first post. In the game he was town his post about not reading role pm was after there was some discussion and he didn't complain about the fact that there were oh so many posts and he seemed genuinely happy. He also checked his role pm after I bitched at him a bit.
In the game we were mafia together he claimed not to have read his role pm, but he was in scum qt 2 hours prior to that claim.
His first two posts in scum QT were :
why do bad things happen to good people?
fuck big games. fuck big games where i get scum. I don't have the motivation to not be a lurking piece of shit
I think that justifies my feelings on kush and my vote on him as well
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BTW, my pm said something about parity in it. What does that mean? Should I ask the mods?
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On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote: Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.
Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.
Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.
Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.
Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).
Is it your goal to get townies modkilled? Did you not read my post where I told people not to call me mafia because if they do I'll pretty much rip them a new one and will end up getting modkilled for it because I have no self control when it relates to getting called mafia when I'm town?
All of my read have been substantiated. The read on iamp was given before I even saw that he wrote that about me Everything you said about me is garbage cause you prolly don't know how to play the game Your entrance was like 30x scummier than anything that's happened this game which was prolly why vivax wanted to insta-shoot you, so next time you call me mafia, I'm just gonna lock my vote on you and send you off to a far away land where Hitler and other scumbags reside
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On July 08 2014 02:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:So here's what I have so far. Koshi Top Town for this post: Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 22:10 Koshi wrote: So. Guys. Town Friends. Let's talk a lot.
First point of talking: We do not plynch. So scummers are allowed to lurk and lurk and lurk. We will however start considering plynching when the hosts are like all bothered and agnry and force us to take actions. Then I say we will only discuss plynching. Yes. Smart.
Second point of talking: Town people should talk alot. Just to talk. Tell us about your day. Anything really. Even if you have nothing to say, you just say something funny. A joke. Something like that. So we don't want to plynch you because you are a pretty cool guy.
Third point of talking: Discuss often how cool and awesome Koshi is at all times. You can never go wrong telling this thread how awesome Koshi is.
Yes. These are good talking points. It's so stupid that it has to be town. We should worry that Robik is mafia when Robik calls me his top town. I'm on page 10 right now, but wanted to post this. I read fast biatches. Also, iamperfection pretty townie. You're actually probably scum for saying this. You tried to use that argument against me LAST NIGHT and I was town and you were town. The fact that you are just recycling statements like that makes you super scummy.
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On July 08 2014 02:49 Koshi wrote: Cora I like your Robik read. The rest I disagree with 100%. Except for the line you say I am only caring for 2%, I disagree with that point for 98%. Totes care. YOU THINK I'M SCUM TOO!?!?!?!?
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