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On July 05 2014 00:45 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 23:46 Palmar wrote:On July 04 2014 23:40 IAmRobik wrote:
Guess I'm not invited :-\ This is an open game, I sent out invitations to the participants of the first game. Wasn't even really invitations, just a request that they play! Plammar specific rule #1 rules me out :-\
I got an invite for being new. Nothing to be proud of
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Sorry, I'm down with fever. Will be very inactive until I recover
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I'm feeling a lot better today, so ill try to catch up and post my thoughts later.
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Back on track and forumite is definitely a good lynch today.
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi
He metareads prplhz as town, but doesn't include koshi's spam town meta as town. Totally ignoring koshi's meta at this point.
On July 08 2014 23:31 Forumite wrote:
I´d lynch a lurker today.
Then after making a huge fuss about koshi, he moves on and wants to policy lynch lurkers. Either he gave up trying to make proper reads, or he is scared that people would see him as scum when he starts aggressively attacking another person.
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On July 09 2014 00:40 Koshi wrote:
That's because he doesn't know me HaruRH... And he knows prplhz...
That's a bad point.
When did I post something that isn't bad on d1?
Its my town meta yo
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On July 09 2014 00:42 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 00:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 09 2014 00:32 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 00:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 09 2014 00:25 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 00:23 Koshi wrote:On July 09 2014 00:18 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote:On July 09 2014 00:16 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not going to unvote forumite that quickly. I want him to feel the grip of death around his neck and see him sweat in fear.
I still think he's mighty scummy. Just drop it. I was pressured yesterday, today I´m just disappointed that you are unable to read my posts. I´ve allready explained the mess yesterday, now make a coherent case (for real this time) and get a wagon going or do something usefull with your time. hahahahahahaha That goes for you too pls gooby pls You are telling the one person who made the most cases (Toad) to use his time more useful when you haven't done jack shit this game. An hommage: prplz town because I read him as scum Koshi totes ruining thread with his 5 posts about riddles guys. I am totes upset. also many omgus. Robik scum with the omgus threatening. SlOosh sheeps to fake activity. Toad I keep blabbering about. I don't really know what I am saying. Or do I? Nobody knows. layabout pure lurker. Exo lurker that was getting thread sentiment. What did I miss? nice list, I´d like to make lists someday Is the list scummy? Are you calling Koshi scum for making a list? Like, how is THIS post productive? It´s not, I´m just pissed off at Toades and Koshi. Well I don't care - if you're mafia then that's easy to say. What I care about is who you want to lynch. You asked for the case on ObiWan (a lurker) and you've tried to discourage MY preference mderg (a lurker) yet you say you'd lynch a lurker today. How about instead of continuing to be "pissed off" at Toad and Koshi, you tell us who YOU think is the best lynch today? mderg has been posting, why do you want to lynch him over someone with one post?
People with 1 post are rarely the real scum and they might get modkilled anyway
Why would you lynch people who can be modkilled later?
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On July 09 2014 00:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 00:44 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 00:42 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 00:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 09 2014 00:32 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 00:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 09 2014 00:25 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 00:23 Koshi wrote:On July 09 2014 00:18 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote:
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hahahahahahaha That goes for you too pls gooby pls You are telling the one person who made the most cases (Toad) to use his time more useful when you haven't done jack shit this game. An hommage: prplz town because I read him as scum Koshi totes ruining thread with his 5 posts about riddles guys. I am totes upset. also many omgus. Robik scum with the omgus threatening. SlOosh sheeps to fake activity. Toad I keep blabbering about. I don't really know what I am saying. Or do I? Nobody knows. layabout pure lurker. Exo lurker that was getting thread sentiment. What did I miss? nice list, I´d like to make lists someday Is the list scummy? Are you calling Koshi scum for making a list? Like, how is THIS post productive? It´s not, I´m just pissed off at Toades and Koshi. Well I don't care - if you're mafia then that's easy to say. What I care about is who you want to lynch. You asked for the case on ObiWan (a lurker) and you've tried to discourage MY preference mderg (a lurker) yet you say you'd lynch a lurker today. How about instead of continuing to be "pissed off" at Toad and Koshi, you tell us who YOU think is the best lynch today? mderg has been posting, why do you want to lynch him over someone with one post? People with 1 post are rarely the real scum and they might get modkilled anyway Why would you lynch people who can be modkilled later? There are no modkills this game. You sure are on fire.
Really?
Oh well, even though im still sick today, I will attempt to participate as best as I can so as not to disappoint the hosts.
My brain isnt processing anything now
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On July 09 2014 00:48 Koshi wrote:
Playing against somebody...
Do you say that?
Sounds like TMI
Does town play against people. It's not like he is reading me as 100% scum anymore.
I have never said I played against somebody when I am town. Really odd. I don't recall people saying it like that. ever.
Hmm, probably he thinks everyone are enemies?
Probably 3rd party?
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On July 09 2014 02:59 Forumite wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: IAmRobik
So what's your reason for voting robik now? Pressure?
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On July 09 2014 03:04 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:01 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 02:59 Forumite wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: IAmRobik So what's your reason for voting robik now? Pressure? What´s your reason for defending him?
Soo.... how is asking about your motive/reads a defend on robik?
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On July 09 2014 03:04 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:01 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 02:59 Forumite wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: IAmRobik So what's your reason for voting robik now? Pressure? What´s your reason for defending him?
Fine.
I am not defending anyone. Since you're my lynch target, I want to know every single one of your moves to decide if you're the correct lynch for today.
But voting for robik with 0 reasom is probably not a good way to avoid a majority lynch.
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On July 09 2014 00:46 Forumite wrote:
I liked what alakaslam found on damdred, but otherwise I have no idea who is scummy. Slight townread on Toades despite it all, scumread on Koshi and Robik but apparently this is how they play so whatever. I have a few townreads, many nullreads and a bunch of lurkers that I don´t want to have around at D3, so today I want to kill lurkers.
You told us you will be killing lurkers today. Out of a sudden, BAM a robik vote. Of course I'll have to ask what are you trying to do.
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On July 09 2014 11:07 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 10:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Yamato...how are you fucking townreading Cazo. He knows enough about what I'm doing to know that I'm switching my votes, but he doesn't know enough to read the TWO times I've posted my reads now?
IS THIS REAL FUCKING LIFE? I'm not thrilled with your play this game either. As for iamp, I think you still have the possibility of being scum, yes.
Robik isn't going OMGWTFBBQ THIS IS SCUM 100% becausr he did this and ML both times. I can kinda understand his play.
Iamp's case is just a meta read, isn't it?
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Because he did this twice and mislynched both times*
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On July 09 2014 10:19 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 10:03 iamperfection wrote:On July 09 2014 10:02 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know that there are vigs in this game, so I have to disagree that "that's all that needs to be said."
I'm going to continue to worry about it, but if you have some other ideas about what I should be worrying about you can tell me. I still have a lot to catch up on but I'm all about the food for thought. You can read my post where I gave a read on every player in the game. This one right? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=58#1141Instantly this jumps out at me: " Forumite For someone that has gotten a lot of shit he hasn't seemed to have backed down at all. I like that he asked bill murray to vote for him that seems super townie to me like he dosnt give a shit about being voted.Plus his jumping around with votes is very attention grabbing move that scum do not like to do. My gut says he is town " I haven't read the part of the thread where this takes place yet so maybe I'm missing some important context BUT: Anyone who asks people to vote for them is scummy. So if you're town reading someone for saying "vote me" I have issues with that. I agree with the suspicion on damdred though. His posting is really careful and thorough like he's trying not to make mistakes and give people ammunition against him. Reading his filter, looking at this post: Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:
I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me. He's treading really, really lightly and a lot of his posts are like that. Careful, apologetic. And the "lol" is out of place. His posts are impeccably formatted; he doesn't even use contractions, but somehow a random "lol" shows up.
Tbh, when I'm scum I also like to ask for votes on me because it will usually spread out the votes.
Damdred feels like hes new (I wrote like that on my first forum mafia).
If vote jumping can be written off as town, the more scum would vote jump.
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On July 09 2014 10:02 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know that there are vigs in this game, so I have to disagree that "that's all that needs to be said."
I'm going to continue to worry about it, but if you have some other ideas about what I should be worrying about you can tell me. I still have a lot to catch up on but I'm all about the food for thought.
Don't think you should even think about lurkers now. Just wait for n1 and if lurkers get vigi shotted, we know they exist. If not, they still can be lynched d2.
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On July 09 2014 11:16 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 11:11 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 11:07 yamato77 wrote:On July 09 2014 10:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Yamato...how are you fucking townreading Cazo. He knows enough about what I'm doing to know that I'm switching my votes, but he doesn't know enough to read the TWO times I've posted my reads now?
IS THIS REAL FUCKING LIFE? I'm not thrilled with your play this game either. As for iamp, I think you still have the possibility of being scum, yes. Robik isn't going OMGWTFBBQ THIS IS SCUM 100% becausr he did this and ML both times. I can kinda understand his play. Iamp's case is just a meta read, isn't it? But that's exactly what he IS doing, though.
oh boy, the way he does this in the previous mafia is different than this.
He could berate and scream at the guy for posting 1 scummy post (sinani) whereas he's kinda going "HES SCUM .... maybe" over here. Quite different I must say.
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TLDR
Robik isnt going CORA IS SCUM 100% VOTE OR TOWN IS RETARDED SHIT ETCETC which probably stemmed from his past 'failures'
Hue
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For reference: On June 29 2014 01:23 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm legitimately going to quit the game of mafia if we don't lynch sinani. Anyone claiming the my case on him is bad or wrong needs to learn how to fucking read into things. THIS IS EXACLTY what sinani did. Letting him get away with it is beyond atrocious. AND IF HE THINKS I'M MAFIA AND WAS TAKING MY CLAIM SERIOUSLY, THEN HE WOULDN'T HAVE FUCKING UNVOTED ME WHEN HE DID.
I'm gonna to fucking lose my shit -- You guys are all so fucking bad and annoying
(granted I may be heated by events in another ongoing game, but like, this dude is fucking mafia and he needs to be lynched over any fucking other person in this game)
This robik in this game is better than the other. Oh trust me
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And for anyone who still think I'm defending robik, or dont like my spam
GET THE FUCK OUT NOW BY YOURSELF
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On July 09 2014 11:25 HaruRH wrote:For reference: Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 01:23 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm legitimately going to quit the game of mafia if we don't lynch sinani. Anyone claiming the my case on him is bad or wrong needs to learn how to fucking read into things. THIS IS EXACLTY what sinani did. Letting him get away with it is beyond atrocious. AND IF HE THINKS I'M MAFIA AND WAS TAKING MY CLAIM SERIOUSLY, THEN HE WOULDN'T HAVE FUCKING UNVOTED ME WHEN HE DID.
I'm gonna to fucking lose my shit -- You guys are all so fucking bad and annoying
(granted I may be heated by events in another ongoing game, but like, this dude is fucking mafia and he needs to be lynched over any fucking other person in this game) This robik in this game is better than the other. Oh trust me
Or that the rules state that one cannot be a dick, so robik isn't playing like a dick
I dont know anymore
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On July 09 2014 11:31 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 11:16 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 10:02 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know that there are vigs in this game, so I have to disagree that "that's all that needs to be said."
I'm going to continue to worry about it, but if you have some other ideas about what I should be worrying about you can tell me. I still have a lot to catch up on but I'm all about the food for thought. Don't think you should even think about lurkers now. Just wait for n1 and if lurkers get vigi shotted, we know they exist. If not, they still can be lynched d2. That's reasonable but I still think it's a good idea to at least try to pressure him to talk.
Why do you still want him to talk? If he is lurking to this extent, he probably isn't reading the thread at all. All your pressure votes are useless, its like talking to a dead body
Except one is necrophillia
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On July 09 2014 11:36 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 11:33 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 11:31 batsnacks wrote:On July 09 2014 11:16 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 10:02 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know that there are vigs in this game, so I have to disagree that "that's all that needs to be said."
I'm going to continue to worry about it, but if you have some other ideas about what I should be worrying about you can tell me. I still have a lot to catch up on but I'm all about the food for thought. Don't think you should even think about lurkers now. Just wait for n1 and if lurkers get vigi shotted, we know they exist. If not, they still can be lynched d2. That's reasonable but I still think it's a good idea to at least try to pressure him to talk. Why do you still want him to talk? If he is lurking to this extent, he probably isn't reading the thread at all. All your pressure votes are useless, its like talking to a dead body Except one is necrophillia No necrophilia is a sexual paraphilia. Talking to a dead body isn't necrophilia.
I'm pretty sure talking to a dead body will not be the only thing you'll do lol
BACK TO TOPIC
I want to lynch forumite/cora today. Forumite is using the 'high activity=town' excuse while cora is doing some selective reading.
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On July 09 2014 06:53 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 06:38 Toadesstern wrote:On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game What´s the case on iamp? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that. Thanks. Yes, I remember reading that case, it´s quite good, also it´s not about lynching me which is a bonus. ##Vote: iamperfection
Also, lel at this response to iamp's case
He really don't want to be lynched today.
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On July 09 2014 11:42 batsnacks wrote:
HaruRH do you think that robik is using the 'high activity=town' excuse?
All I'm getting from his filter is
IAMP IS TOWN BECAUSE HE THINKS IM TOWN AND SO IS VIVAX
CORA/FORUMITE IGNORING MY READS SCUM
FORUMITE NOT SO SCUM
OMG BUNNIES SCUMSLIP SCUM SCUM
It feels awkward lel
It lacks the robik aggressive words but the aggressive tone still remains
Its like an angry dog without teeth
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How about you explain the following 2 quotes from you?
"You need to understand that this game is not static. It is an ecolving game and I'm not going to say "I'm 100% voting for XXX today". That's just terrible town play."
And then, when asked about your biggest scumread,
"My vote is on Robik and it will stay on Robik"
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On July 08 2014 14:09 Corazon wrote:
How hell-bent are you guys on lynching Forumite? To be honest I can't see myself voting for him. Many of his actions and statements so far (such as his meta-read on Prp and his statement that he can't read Toad objectively once Toad started attacking him) are statements/decisions that I myself would probably do as town. Thinking about it, that could explain why he's been under so much pressure...
Has he really been the scummiest player in the thread so far?
How about this?
Forumite randomly voted robik and only provided a crappy reason when asked for a reason. That reason is so generic it hurts.
Do you still think forumite is a townread?
Is robik really the scummiest so far?
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On July 09 2014 06:53 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 06:38 Toadesstern wrote:On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game What´s the case on iamp? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that. Thanks. Yes, I remember reading that case, it´s quite good, also it´s not about lynching me which is a bonus. ##Vote: iamperfection
Also, how do you townread forumite after he looked so happy not being lynched? Would a town go 'yea as long as you dont lynch me any read is fine'?
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Sorry if I ask too much questions, but I always ask questions d1 so I can build up cases on d2
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On July 09 2014 12:24 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 12:20 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 06:53 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 06:38 Toadesstern wrote:On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game What´s the case on iamp? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that. Thanks. Yes, I remember reading that case, it´s quite good, also it´s not about lynching me which is a bonus. ##Vote: iamperfection Also, how do you townread forumite after he looked so happy not being lynched? Would a town go 'yea as long as you dont lynch me any read is fine'? I would like to answer your question with 2 questions: 1. Do you really want to get lynched? (Give me a real answer, I won't judge you for it) 2. Would mafia just simply go out and say they dont want to be lynched plainly?
I dont mind getting lynched if I fucked up. But if someone decides to mislynch me with bad reasoning ill flip.
Yes and no. Think about it this way. Scum knows its too obvious to blatantly say that they don't want to be lynched, so most of the time it will be townread.
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On July 09 2014 12:33 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 12:30 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 12:24 Corazon wrote:On July 09 2014 12:20 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 06:53 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 06:38 Toadesstern wrote:On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game What´s the case on iamp? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that. Thanks. Yes, I remember reading that case, it´s quite good, also it´s not about lynching me which is a bonus. ##Vote: iamperfection Also, how do you townread forumite after he looked so happy not being lynched? Would a town go 'yea as long as you dont lynch me any read is fine'? I would like to answer your question with 2 questions: 1. Do you really want to get lynched? (Give me a real answer, I won't judge you for it) 2. Would mafia just simply go out and say they dont want to be lynched plainly? I dont mind getting lynched if I fucked up. But if someone decides to mislynch me with bad reasoning ill flip. Yes and no. Think about it this way. Scum knows its too obvious to blatantly say that they don't want to be lynched, so most of the time it will be townread. TBH that second response seems like a lot of WIFOM to me.
A wise man once said
"WIFOM makes the world go round" - alexander the great
Ok probably I made that quote up. And they didnt know the world was round at that point in time either.
Anyway, WIFOM is what scum uses to deflect argument. It is easy to contribute most arguments as WIFOM. You just need to think what town|forumite will do as opposed to scum|forumite. In this case, it makes more sense for scum|forumite to do this. This is because he aggressively townread people early on, aroused suspicions and then quickly tried to put pressure off himself. After a whole day of forumite bbq, he is finally able to take the pressure off him and the first thing he says is 'at least im not lynched so lets sheep this case'. Definitely doesnt feel town.
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To build on to the argument, town|forumite would evaluate everyone who tried to pressure him since it was easy for scum to hop on the forumitewagon. Scum|forumite would instantly feel relieved and settle down for a sheep to get past d1.
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On July 09 2014 12:47 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 12:43 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 12:33 Corazon wrote:On July 09 2014 12:30 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 12:24 Corazon wrote:On July 09 2014 12:20 HaruRH wrote:On July 09 2014 06:53 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 06:38 Toadesstern wrote:On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game What´s the case on iamp? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that. Thanks. Yes, I remember reading that case, it´s quite good, also it´s not about lynching me which is a bonus. ##Vote: iamperfection Also, how do you townread forumite after he looked so happy not being lynched? Would a town go 'yea as long as you dont lynch me any read is fine'? I would like to answer your question with 2 questions: 1. Do you really want to get lynched? (Give me a real answer, I won't judge you for it) 2. Would mafia just simply go out and say they dont want to be lynched plainly? I dont mind getting lynched if I fucked up. But if someone decides to mislynch me with bad reasoning ill flip. Yes and no. Think about it this way. Scum knows its too obvious to blatantly say that they don't want to be lynched, so most of the time it will be townread. TBH that second response seems like a lot of WIFOM to me. A wise man once said "WIFOM makes the world go round" - alexander the great Ok probably I made that quote up. And they didnt know the world was round at that point in time either. Anyway, WIFOM is what scum uses to deflect argument. It is easy to contribute most arguments as WIFOM. You just need to think what town|forumite will do as opposed to scum|forumite. In this case, it makes more sense for scum|forumite to do this. This is because he aggressively townread people early on, aroused suspicions and then quickly tried to put pressure off himself. After a whole day of forumite bbq, he is finally able to take the pressure off him and the first thing he says is 'at least im not lynched so lets sheep this case'. Definitely doesnt feel town. Alright, I disagree with you on this and I guess that makes our reads different. Not much else to say about it 
Dont worry, my d1 reads are usually rubbish since I need time to read up on responses, voting patterns and eod results before I come up with any solid conclusion.
Sometimes when I look back to my d1 reads I disagree with them too
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Sloosh, to answer your question:
"There may be more than 2 factions in the game." - shamelessly ripped from the op
I think it is kinda alright to think about other factions in this case.
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KOSHI need you votes now!
KOSHI have put the most time in this game. The most words. The most scumhunting.
KOSHI am now your D1 vote leader. (grammar error intended)
The lynchlist is iamp/Forumite/27nb
New names can be added with an awesome case for 5 more hours.
We do not discuss lurker lynches.
IAMP want to lynch cora/dam so we aren't lynching them today.
This post will be spammed a lot.
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Soo...... forumite or nb?
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On July 09 2014 23:11 IAmRobik wrote:
I voted bunnies like 24hrs ago. I don't know what you're talking about.
Koshi, if you keep pushing iamp, we're going to have problems -- you and I
Also, TehPoofter showed EXTREME enthusiasm for playing this game before the game and in his first post. He hasn't posted dick since then. He admits that he doesn't post much as mafia and that he wants to change his game for the better, but he's yet to do anything. So like, if we don't lynch anti-Robik people, we should probably lynch Poofter
YESSS I like this post more than the screamings you did
I can lynch poofter.
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On July 09 2014 23:28 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 12:45 HaruRH wrote:
To build on to the argument, town|forumite would evaluate everyone who tried to pressure him since it was easy for scum to hop on the forumitewagon. Scum|forumite would instantly feel relieved and settle down for a sheep to get past d1. I prefer not being lynched no matter my alignment. And no, I don´t think it was easy for scum to jump on the bandwagon, it was a weak case in the first place. Probably everyone who voted for me early are town. Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 14:33 slOosh wrote:On July 09 2014 12:45 HaruRH wrote:
To build on to the argument, town|forumite would evaluate everyone who tried to pressure him since it was easy for scum to hop on the forumitewagon. Scum|forumite would instantly feel relieved and settle down for a sheep to get past d1. This is a reasonable point. Forumite, could you please give your general feels as to the people who have voted you? Haru, what's your opinion of iamp? (and although part of it is, it is not just a meta case). Strong townread: Koshi weak townread: Toades, Alakaslam weak scumread: SloOsh no fucking idea: Bill Murray Also Robik is town and Cora is probably town. They should really stop OMGUSing eachother. Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 14:32 Bill Murray wrote:On July 08 2014 19:08 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: Forumite, I didn't like the reasons he said he was suspicious of Koshi - initially it was because of his fluffy riddle posts at the beginning, and he further went on to say that he "hitched onto" Toad's case on Forumite adding his own "complex reasoning" or whatever. So ultimately that's where his vote is.
And his read on prplhz...like, at first he said like "99% sure" and has described him as confirmed town. And the reasoning he gave is pretty bad - but not one I can really argue with because it's based on a personal metric that may or may not be true.
I want to hear others' thoughts on Forumite. I think ultimately I'd rather wait on him, but I might be convinced to lynch him. Me calling prplhz 99% townie was another way of saying that I´m never considering him for a lynch, I explained that later. Now Toades tunnels because he didn´t get the answer he wanted, honesty wasn´t good enough. Koshi made a convoluted reasoning why I posted what I posted which was basically WIFOM. I´d find it if his filter wasn´t so bloated. Then sloosh sheeps to fake activity and BM votes without reading my posts. Alakaslam sheeps Toades but this one I can at least understand, he found someone he thinks is town and votes the same way. Bill Murray, you´ve allready voted for me so post it in the thread. No stealth-votes! My vote stays on Koshi because his case on me is shit. I don´t like Robik either but could be personal because he´s bad mannered. Robiks preemptive OMGUS looks like a good scum move, but I don´t know anything about either Robik, this might be his normal playstyle. I was pretty open with wanting to vote you Evading and lies. There is no pro-town reason to stealth-vote and no, you were not perfectly clear that you wanted to vote me. Even is so, why not post your vote clearly? Is that so hard? Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 22:23 iamperfection wrote:On July 09 2014 22:21 Koshi wrote:I need you votes now! I have put the most time in this game. The most words. The most scumhunting. I am now your D1 vote leader. The lynchlist is iamp/Forumite/Damdred/27nb/Cora New names can be added with an awesome case for 5 more hours. We do not discuss lurker lynches. This post will be spammed a lot. your a terrible leader if you give people 5 options your outed as leader. The lynch is cora or damdred today. Those are the ones i feel most confident about. I actually agree with this. More candidates means it´s easier for scum to direct the vote, it´s much easier with just a few. I liked Toades suggestion to make the lynch between me and iamp, if anyone else is up for the lynch then I want to see a good reason for it. Hell no, YOU are not directing town votes, no way. Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 10:19 batsnacks wrote:On July 09 2014 10:03 iamperfection wrote:On July 09 2014 10:02 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know that there are vigs in this game, so I have to disagree that "that's all that needs to be said."
I'm going to continue to worry about it, but if you have some other ideas about what I should be worrying about you can tell me. I still have a lot to catch up on but I'm all about the food for thought. You can read my post where I gave a read on every player in the game. This one right? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=58#1141Instantly this jumps out at me: " Forumite For someone that has gotten a lot of shit he hasn't seemed to have backed down at all. I like that he asked bill murray to vote for him that seems super townie to me like he dosnt give a shit about being voted.Plus his jumping around with votes is very attention grabbing move that scum do not like to do. My gut says he is town " I haven't read the part of the thread where this takes place yet so maybe I'm missing some important context BUT: Anyone who asks people to vote for them is scummy. So if you're town reading someone for saying "vote me" I have issues with that. I agree with the suspicion on damdred though. His posting is really careful and thorough like he's trying not to make mistakes and give people ammunition against him. Reading his filter, looking at this post: On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:
I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me. He's treading really, really lightly and a lot of his posts are like that. Careful, apologetic. And the "lol" is out of place. His posts are impeccably formatted; he doesn't even use contractions, but somehow a random "lol" shows up. Read more carefully, I didn´t ask BM to vote for me, he had allready voted for me without posting about it in the thread, I called him out on that. I didn´t tell him to vote, I told him to be open about having allready voted. We have 7 hours and 34 minutes left...
Is it just me or forumite also refuses to mention anything, give reads or anything about iamp, much like how iamp refuses to give any read on forumite despite 25 mentions of forumite in all the posts he were replying to?
Forumite please read everything carefully, I am no town leader.
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Koshi on a scale of 1 to BrazilVSGermany how much can I trust you with my vote
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Anyone who puts robik as their strong town are just lazy people who don't want to pick fights and do something.
OH IAMPERFECTION FORUMITE
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On July 10 2014 00:10 yamato77 wrote:
I am 100% on iamp being mafia
What are you willing to bet
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THEN WHY ARENT WE LYNCHING FORUMITE TODAY INSTEAD
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On July 10 2014 00:17 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:15 Toadesstern wrote:On July 10 2014 00:12 Forumite wrote:On July 10 2014 00:10 Toadesstern wrote:
forumite testing my faith... I want to lynch IamP but damn that random unvote and revote with "I really don't like it" after saying the lynch is between him and iamp looks so damn delicious Funny. I did it because of Robiks reaction. What do you think about his defence of iamp? I honestly don't give a crap about what he thinks about Iamp. Sorry Robik, but you really need to cool off your head. I can't possibly trust someone who's got foam around his mouth while telling me what to do. =/ k Heading out for a few hours, then I´ll be here until deadline.
What the fuck
Can someone explain to me
Why is forumite and iamp doing the exact same thing
They both said 0
0
0 shits about each other until I asked why, in which they cross reference once and then nothing happens
Then they both leave and will only come back during the deadline
Are they having a secret meeting at the scum qt now
"tonight we lynch dis.... hehehehehehehhehe"
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On July 10 2014 00:25 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:44 iamperfection wrote:
YOU WILL LYNCH YAMATO IF I GET LYNCHED AND YOU WILL MY READ MY LIST OVER AND OVER IF I GET LYNCHED.
Take a look at forum again i may have been wrong on that one with his most recent action what?
You know, this post of yours is the only one which mentions forumite and it is 27 posts away from my question about why you both never mentioned each other, despite being online and offline at the same time
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On July 10 2014 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:29 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 00:25 iamperfection wrote:On July 09 2014 23:44 iamperfection wrote:
YOU WILL LYNCH YAMATO IF I GET LYNCHED AND YOU WILL MY READ MY LIST OVER AND OVER IF I GET LYNCHED.
Take a look at forum again i may have been wrong on that one with his most recent action what? You know, this post of yours is the only one which mentions forumite and it is 27 posts away from my question about why you both never mentioned each other, despite being online and offline at the same time Are you trying to push the idea that iamp and forum are mafia together? Cause that theory is asinine. If that's not what you're doing, then you're just a big ole floppy eared Equus africanus asinus who isn't adding anythign to the game.
So you wanna lynch me again?
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And no, I'm a hedgehog. Useless at birth but grows spikes after a while which can hurt.
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On July 10 2014 00:31 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:29 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 00:25 iamperfection wrote:On July 09 2014 23:44 iamperfection wrote:
YOU WILL LYNCH YAMATO IF I GET LYNCHED AND YOU WILL MY READ MY LIST OVER AND OVER IF I GET LYNCHED.
Take a look at forum again i may have been wrong on that one with his most recent action what? You know, this post of yours is the only one which mentions forumite and it is 27 posts away from my question about why you both never mentioned each other, despite being online and offline at the same time ok dont see how its relevant. this comes off to me as you didnt mention forumite except when you did.
I thought it was pretty funny
It's like knowing his existence, but treating him like a stranger
Like some lame ass romance sitcom
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On July 10 2014 00:46 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, can you just claim medic or something so they can't lynch you and then we can move on to people who are actually mafia/anti-town
You're my top townread this game, so how much are you willing to bet that cora is scum
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On July 10 2014 00:55 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:52 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 00:46 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, can you just claim medic or something so they can't lynch you and then we can move on to people who are actually mafia/anti-town You're my top townread this game, so how much are you willing to bet that cora is scum I don'tk now that he is scum. I'm not willing to bet on it. I'm willing to say unequivocally that he is playing anti-town and has displayed a plethora of scum traits, which I have previously outlined numerous times.
I see your point now.
Lynching iamp is bad for town motive. Even if he is scum, we can leave him for later
But when someone like cora, who tunnels so extremely hard, is left alive, he will start convincing people to lynch town pretty soon.
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On July 10 2014 01:11 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:09 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 00:55 IAmRobik wrote:On July 10 2014 00:52 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 00:46 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, can you just claim medic or something so they can't lynch you and then we can move on to people who are actually mafia/anti-town You're my top townread this game, so how much are you willing to bet that cora is scum I don'tk now that he is scum. I'm not willing to bet on it. I'm willing to say unequivocally that he is playing anti-town and has displayed a plethora of scum traits, which I have previously outlined numerous times. I see your point now. Lynching iamp is bad for town motive. Even if he is scum, we can leave him for later But when someone like cora, who tunnels so extremely hard, is left alive, he will start convincing people to lynch town pretty soon. Both of those statements are incorrect ways of playing the town faction in a mafia game.
Both the wagon feels town to me now and both feels town driven.
Why would you lynch iamp over cora in my case?
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I dont want to lynch either iamp or cora now.
On one hand, I believe koshi and yamato are town and their push is town driven.
On the other hand, robik is my top townread and his push is town driven.
This is just a town on town collision that scum gets to sit at the back and 
So i'm going to vote for forumite, my biggest scumread for now.
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"HaruH- seriously? The guy is pretty much afk for much of day 1 which whatever, he claims he was sick, but comes back, gives basically no reads, jumps on the iamp wagon, and buddies up with Koshi saying he's going to be helping lead the town votes. That is the scummiest shit I have seen thus far."
WHAT THE F-
Did you even read my filter
I did not jump onto the iamp wagon immediately.
I don't give reads d1. I still wont do it. Lynch me if you dont like it to be so.
I only wanted to express how iamp was so willing to lynch 2/5 of koshi's scumreads - which coincidentally leaves 3 names that is mostly the lynch for today.
I dont claim I am sick. I AM SICK. ITS A FACT.
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On July 10 2014 02:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:57 HaruRH wrote:
"HaruH- seriously? The guy is pretty much afk for much of day 1 which whatever, he claims he was sick, but comes back, gives basically no reads, jumps on the iamp wagon, and buddies up with Koshi saying he's going to be helping lead the town votes. That is the scummiest shit I have seen thus far."
WHAT THE F-
Did you even read my filter
I did not jump onto the iamp wagon immediately.
I don't give reads d1. I still wont do it. Lynch me if you dont like it to be so.
I only wanted to express how iamp was so willing to lynch 2/5 of koshi's scumreads - which coincidentally leaves 3 names that is mostly the lynch for today.
I dont claim I am sick. I AM SICK. ITS A FACT. Me, I don't know whether or not you are sick. Yes I read, nt your filter, but the thread. When I posted that read, I hadn't completely caught up, but I noticed your change off of iamp. I didn't see your reads, and thats fine. You don't give day 1 reads and get called town for it. I give reads, and get called mafia. LOVE how that works out. The last thing you said, Im not sure I follow?
I got modkilled off another game because I was sick and couldnt do shit for 2 days
Do you really think this is just an elaborate hoax
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Wait, are we allowed to know what vengeful spirit does and its alignment?
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Tehpoofter wonned by doing nothing hahahaha this is the best
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With this note, I'll sheep robik for d2
No matter who he wants to lynch
Including myself
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I can almost feel robik kicking the wall now
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On July 10 2014 03:54 IAmRobik wrote:
Instead of lynching town!koshi for punishment for the iamp lynch. I want to IML cora within the first hour of d2. Can we make that happen?
UR WISH IS MY COMMEND
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Robik was at least right (3/3) with his reads.
Cora was nowhere near. (0/3)
That's why robik should be sheeped. This is as good as a cop check.
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On July 10 2014 03:57 prplhz wrote:
who is harurh and why is he making a big deal out of sheeping robik
Me?
I follow the right path.
Today's lynch was only used to prove if robik was right or wrong. He's a suicide bomber for god sake. He ALWAYS blow up d1, get a scum on d1 or d2 and then get aimed and killed by maf really quickly.
The only way robik is scum is if he lives past d4-6.
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On July 10 2014 04:01 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:59 HaruRH wrote:
Robik was at least right (3/3) with his reads.
Cora was nowhere near. (0/3)
That's why robik should be sheeped. This is as good as a cop check. What the hell? Are you as stupid as Robik? Only 3 person has flipped and only Iamp was read by both of us. Robik only gave Iamp a town read because Iamp gave him a town read. Iamp made this weird suggestion that Robik was actually doing something when he hasn't, simply put. So now that you've said something that stupid, I'm not reading any of your posts either.
Good. Your posts are as irky as robik's but with 0 reasoning behind it. No reason to read yours either. You're still wrong. if youre reading this, you earn 5 internet cash for every mistake you find in this post of yours. Only factual errors. GO
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On July 10 2014 04:09 Corazon wrote:
Well I'm done actually trying. I'm just gonna lurk and say stupid shit from now on in order to have people read me as town.
GG
You were trying?
Even for me, who sometimes ignore paragraphs of worfs, can tell you that you certainly did not read a single thing from robik's filter.
And you call this trying.
Yes lurk please, so that vigi can shoot you without worry.
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I dont get what is bat and hiro doing
... what?
Not town.
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We agreed on a cora lynch. I don't feel the need to bring out all his posts and uncover all the lies he has made thus far.
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On July 11 2014 01:26 prplhz wrote:
palmar has bossed me around so much around in games it's about time it's the other way around.
we should obviously aim for a soonest deadline lynch. i'd prefer cora but i doubt that's going to happen because of those people who are so adamantly against it.
anyone who opposes the cora lynch, give me reasons why he isn't scum. Or do you prefer I post a huge ass read so that you all can blindly sheep it?
I still don't know why cora isn't an instant lynch at this point. All the meta reads are rubbish now that its soooo painfully obvious hes lying and just obnoxious.
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On July 10 2014 23:32 yamato77 wrote:
Koshi, I really don't think Cora is mafia.
^ Not a reason
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On July 10 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi.
elaborate
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On July 11 2014 00:25 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 00:12 Vivax wrote:
So your scumreads are Cora, forum and yamato?
Do you still scumread yamato? You forgot VE. He was on ObiWanShinobi, right? Then I´m not sure about him anymore. Not impossible that they´re scumbuddies but unlikely. Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 00:19 Damdred wrote:
Mderg when did your opinion on cora change? Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 19:58 mderg wrote:On July 09 2014 12:57 Corazon wrote:
Alright, so about Iamp:
Whether we lynch Iamp or not will determine how we go about this game. A majority of the players in this game have almost no filter and have no expressed their opinion whatsoever. Town will lose if this continues to be the case. Sure we will eventually vote people out, but town is going to cruise into loserville if we vote haphazardly.
I'm slightly leaning towards scum on Iamp because his filter is 6 pages and only 5% of it contains statements that show what his opinions of other players are. A lot of his posts are just filler, answering questions, or one-liner stuff. There's also the issue in his reads post that the explanation of his scumread on me is weak at best (and a lot worse than the other two), yet I'm his top scum read. That makes no sense at all and it seems like he just has an agenda to get me lynched.
On the other hand, Iamp does have the longest filter in the game (or at least close if Koshi's is longer) and if he is town, he will be able to actually get us far. Since I really think we should lynch into the pool of players who have not shown their reads or have weak reads that are based off of absolutely nothing, I would prefer if we not lynched Iamp today. However, if I had to choose between Iamp and a no-lynch, I would lynch Iamp.
I hope that clears my stance on him. I still think a Robik lynch would be good because he's just playing like a chicken with his head cut off plus some players have actually defended Robik by saying that they think he's actually justifying his reads and that he is being "active" (which is really puzzling to me), which would put more value into a Robik lynch than one might think at first glance. This just doesn´t make sense. Why would you want to lynch Robik who has a disgustingly long filter? You don´t really want to lynch iamperfect D1 because he has a long filter but you want to lynch Robik who also has a long filter. You would only need to click on Robik´s filter to see that this doesn´t make any sense.
so you also saw how atrocious cora is playing now. Do something, vote him. Or else I will take this as a scum motive and move away from my cora wagon to mderg wagon for playing only when you're asked to
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On July 10 2014 23:34 Koshi wrote:
Ok. Robik will be totes mad if Cora stays alive and scum wins though.
prplhz saying he is the best player in this game and that the game is completely lost awards him this vote:
##unvote
##vote: prplhz
Wat
I also have a highlight reel for him, waiting for his most awesome play
On July 10 2014 03:27 prplhz wrote:this is the first game i've ever played where i think i'm playing better than anyone else
But voting him because he calls himself the best just helps to solidify his image
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On July 10 2014 22:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Seems like Bill the donkey Murray could be setting up a "why would I say I was gonna lynch him the next day if I night killed him" about me.
Bringing it up back for attention btw
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Now, I'm sick and tired of talking to myself so I'll wait for people to actually post stuff
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On July 11 2014 02:06 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 01:40 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 22:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Seems like Bill the donkey Murray could be setting up a "why would I say I was gonna lynch him the next day if I night killed him" about me. Bringing it up back for attention btw WIFOM tells me scum killed Robik to make bm suspicious.
Rules tells me that palmar will only accept night actions 1 hour before the deadline
And robik only said that within the hour, which palmar wasn't going to accept it
WIFOM with cheeseburger
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On July 11 2014 02:27 Corazon wrote:
I'm just gonna vote for myself because I don't feel like playing anymore.
Later
I refuse to vote for anyone who votes for themselves
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Join me on my crusade
We are lynching Bill Murray/Mderg today
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On July 11 2014 02:38 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 02:13 kushm4sta wrote:On July 11 2014 02:06 mderg wrote:On July 11 2014 01:40 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 22:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Seems like Bill the donkey Murray could be setting up a "why would I say I was gonna lynch him the next day if I night killed him" about me. Bringing it up back for attention btw WIFOM tells me scum killed Robik to make bm suspicious. So they changed their vote after bm said that even tho it was very close to eod?? And how do you have a town read enough on bm to believe in that conspiracy? Not impossible that scum was there. bm is null for me. What makes me believe in that "conspiracy" is that bm may could have changed the kill. It´s 100% WIFOM, though. Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 02:33 HaruRH wrote:On July 11 2014 02:06 mderg wrote:On July 11 2014 01:40 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 22:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Seems like Bill the donkey Murray could be setting up a "why would I say I was gonna lynch him the next day if I night killed him" about me. Bringing it up back for attention btw WIFOM tells me scum killed Robik to make bm suspicious. Rules tells me that palmar will only accept night actions 1 hour before the deadline And robik only said that within the hour, which palmar wasn't going to accept it WIFOM with cheeseburger Read the op, it clearly says that mafia nightkills can be changed within the last hour.
My fault then
But I have a case on you wait up
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On July 11 2014 00:06 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi. Here are some posts that look like pretty clear scumreading to me: Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 19:31 mderg wrote:Reading the conversation between yamato and iamperfect is just awful. I have to check like 5 times every post to see who posted it because they both have an archon as profile pic. On July 09 2014 08:12 yamato77 wrote:
you're not that high on my townlist
I could see lynching you On July 09 2014 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
remember, I nailed you to the wall in catastrophe
I know how to read you I don´t like this by yamato. Keeping options open on iamperfection without a definite read but at the same time bragging about being able to read him. Seems scummy to me. Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 08:44 mderg wrote:Some more catching up. On July 08 2014 23:33 Toadesstern wrote:Okay I don't think this answer from forumite fits at all: On July 08 2014 20:52 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 00:30 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:27 Toadesstern wrote:
waitwaitwait. That reasoning is stupid as hell but people use it. I do the same whenever I'm dealing with VE and it works wonders. No problem there and towniepoints for not being afraid to mention something that ridiculous lol.
However, this "strategy" is so odd that he shouldn't be expecting other people to use it as well. He's basicly stating that prplhz is town because he looks slightly scummy. If anything the guy should be gushing over me about how I'm a god at mafia for seeing that but STILL being wrong nonetheless according to him. Right? Yes, he did consider chainsawing you for reading prplhz as scum while he read prplhz as scum. The plot thickings *dum dum dum* exactly. At the same time he has the balls to outright state that for no reason whatsoever. Why would mafia say they were considering to chainsaw me. If this was someone like Marv or me who literally don't give a shit about how weak we post and do it on a regular basis to look like we're ballsy townies fine but this little detail doesn't fit in the picture of forumite being Mafia so far. That's what I meant with, he's not afraid of posting something that ridiculous (for both things). I'm actually fine with forumite for now lol Nha bro, that's not how it works. Mafia doesn't think about why they actually read people. They think about covering themselves if they get called out. Scum doesn't connect the "I can justify reading prplhz for town because my history with him" with "this guy is town because he scumreaded prplhz and I also do that as town". I am not saying it is impossible for scum to do it, but scum is more likely to slip in their reasoning doing these kinda connect reads. mafia more likely thinks "ok, prplhz is town and I can defend him with this meta reason x from past games, I could call the guy who is putting pressure on prplhz scum because he is wrong but let's go after this guy who is posting total nonsense, nobody will think I am off base for calling this guy out, he clearly is doing nothing". You should be proud of your case. It actually shows mafia mindset. This is the post you used to justify sheeping Toades. It´s WIFOM and lies. I never pushed Toades, I knew me not voting for prplhz doesn´t make Toades scum. I said I considered chainsawing him to fit in with my "read" on prplhz, but knowing that prplhz wasn´t really confirmed town to anyone else attacking Toades would have been a stupid thing to do. It´s still taken up as a reason why I´m scummy. Can´t you people read? I just don't see that fitting in with the rest. So he tells me to unvote, without an explanation while KNOWING that the townread on prplhz isn't obvious. And he doesn't try to stop me from voting prplhz either. But still proceeds to mention the read in the first place for no apparent reason and feels the need to tell people that he's smarter than to just chainsaw someone. This all sounds really fishy for me. The realization that a vote/attack on me would look stupid comming from himself. Sure he says it would be a stupid thing to do but well... Add to that that I'm not a fan of giving random townreads out like they're candy when you don't have a reason to do so, because it's the easiest thing in the world for mafia to do to look like they're doing something because they don't even have to lie about it and can later on come back and yell at people "told ya I was right about him" if a lynch happens... The reason I'm posting about this? If you ignore those weird parts inbetween he actually looks genuine recently and I'm not sure what to make of it. I'll keep my vote on him for now but I need to check him out again. I kinda like this post. On July 08 2014 23:33 IAmRobik wrote:
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I did however agree with VE's read on mderg. I think he was the one who said that he was afraid to interact. He was more than happy to engage with people in previous games and seems less than active in this game. Obviously the two of them wouldn't be scum buddies though.
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I already said that comment from me was not to be taken seriously and I thought the smiley in my post made that obvious. On July 08 2014 23:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I actually like yamato and I'm nullish leaning town on prplhz, so I'm actually gonna stop pushing mderg becase A) I'm not getting any support for it and B) because ObiWan is an equally good lynch fmp. So yeah.
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##Vote: ObiWanShinobi This looks really bad to me. Considering how convinced you were of me being scum this unvote was surprisingly easy. I also can´t really grasp your reasons for voting ObiWanShinobi. I think you mentioned him 1 time before that vote and that mention didn´t look like a scumread to me. So you decide to change your vote from your biggest scumread to someone who somehow is an equally good lynch. There is a lack of explanation and it doesn´t make you look very townie. Going to bed now. If it goes on like this, I will have caught up in about 2 days... I also don´t like Cora and forumite. Those are a bit less clear but you could be able to see those.
For a record, let's distinguish between Scumhunting and Posting opinions
The words ' like ' ' don´t like ' indicates opinion. Not scumhunting. You never actively called someone scum yet. You have yet to post any proper reads that isn't replying to posts. Your tone indicates a huge buttload of passivity - almost like you are unwilling to do a proper read. Almost all your posts were on replies to posts about you. This is why I said that you were posting mostly when asked to.
'I also don´t like Cora and forumite. Those are a bit less clear but you could be able to see those.'
If it is less clear, it doesn't exist. No solid read from you, at all. I need you to pick your scumreads now. No more wishy-washy reads. I literally cannot gather any info from you other than your passing comments.
##Vote: Mderg
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On July 11 2014 02:47 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 01:32 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi. elaborate Mainly for the activity thingy where he decided to give leeway to iamp but not to Robik, I couldn't really see the scum agenda behind it. But thinking it through twice then that makes his iamp hammer even more illogical, so I'm taking that back, it was rash. I have a hard time believing that he was the guy who shot Obi: Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:23 Corazon wrote:On July 10 2014 03:20 IAmRobik wrote:On July 10 2014 02:41 Corazon wrote:
Fuck it, Robik's just playing like an idiot.
I'll just fucking ignore everything he says and look for other lynch targets. It's pretty obvious that no one wants him lynched but me and we need a majority so...
##unvote: Robik
##Vote: Iamp[/B[ WHO'S PLAYING LIKE AN IDIOT NOW!??!?!?!? Please just do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up. You're just spewing out the stupidest shit ever just so people can read you as town. [b]Someone vig this idiot, please. Now he comes in with a claim that's supposed to save his ass, but then still martyrs even though he should have an entirely different attitude if he actually just shot scum. I would like the guy who shot Obi to claim cause I don't believe this guy.
I don't believe that vig only have 1 shot. Thus it's unwise to ask for a claim now.
As for cora, he is just seeking his own grave. Being unable to reply to ANY of the reads posted about him, he is certainly a viable lynch.
Now we just need a second/third wagon and we are set. I am going to push Mderg.
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On July 11 2014 02:46 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 00:06 mderg wrote:On July 10 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi. Here are some posts that look like pretty clear scumreading to me: On July 10 2014 19:31 mderg wrote:Reading the conversation between yamato and iamperfect is just awful. I have to check like 5 times every post to see who posted it because they both have an archon as profile pic. On July 09 2014 08:12 yamato77 wrote:
you're not that high on my townlist
I could see lynching you On July 09 2014 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
remember, I nailed you to the wall in catastrophe
I know how to read you I don´t like this by yamato. Keeping options open on iamperfection without a definite read but at the same time bragging about being able to read him. Seems scummy to me. On July 10 2014 08:44 mderg wrote:Some more catching up. On July 08 2014 23:33 Toadesstern wrote:Okay I don't think this answer from forumite fits at all: On July 08 2014 20:52 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 00:30 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:27 Toadesstern wrote:
waitwaitwait. That reasoning is stupid as hell but people use it. I do the same whenever I'm dealing with VE and it works wonders. No problem there and towniepoints for not being afraid to mention something that ridiculous lol.
However, this "strategy" is so odd that he shouldn't be expecting other people to use it as well. He's basicly stating that prplhz is town because he looks slightly scummy. If anything the guy should be gushing over me about how I'm a god at mafia for seeing that but STILL being wrong nonetheless according to him. Right? Yes, he did consider chainsawing you for reading prplhz as scum while he read prplhz as scum. The plot thickings *dum dum dum* exactly. At the same time he has the balls to outright state that for no reason whatsoever. Why would mafia say they were considering to chainsaw me. If this was someone like Marv or me who literally don't give a shit about how weak we post and do it on a regular basis to look like we're ballsy townies fine but this little detail doesn't fit in the picture of forumite being Mafia so far. That's what I meant with, he's not afraid of posting something that ridiculous (for both things). I'm actually fine with forumite for now lol Nha bro, that's not how it works. Mafia doesn't think about why they actually read people. They think about covering themselves if they get called out. Scum doesn't connect the "I can justify reading prplhz for town because my history with him" with "this guy is town because he scumreaded prplhz and I also do that as town". I am not saying it is impossible for scum to do it, but scum is more likely to slip in their reasoning doing these kinda connect reads. mafia more likely thinks "ok, prplhz is town and I can defend him with this meta reason x from past games, I could call the guy who is putting pressure on prplhz scum because he is wrong but let's go after this guy who is posting total nonsense, nobody will think I am off base for calling this guy out, he clearly is doing nothing". You should be proud of your case. It actually shows mafia mindset. This is the post you used to justify sheeping Toades. It´s WIFOM and lies. I never pushed Toades, I knew me not voting for prplhz doesn´t make Toades scum. I said I considered chainsawing him to fit in with my "read" on prplhz, but knowing that prplhz wasn´t really confirmed town to anyone else attacking Toades would have been a stupid thing to do. It´s still taken up as a reason why I´m scummy. Can´t you people read? I just don't see that fitting in with the rest. So he tells me to unvote, without an explanation while KNOWING that the townread on prplhz isn't obvious. And he doesn't try to stop me from voting prplhz either. But still proceeds to mention the read in the first place for no apparent reason and feels the need to tell people that he's smarter than to just chainsaw someone. This all sounds really fishy for me. The realization that a vote/attack on me would look stupid comming from himself. Sure he says it would be a stupid thing to do but well... Add to that that I'm not a fan of giving random townreads out like they're candy when you don't have a reason to do so, because it's the easiest thing in the world for mafia to do to look like they're doing something because they don't even have to lie about it and can later on come back and yell at people "told ya I was right about him" if a lynch happens... The reason I'm posting about this? If you ignore those weird parts inbetween he actually looks genuine recently and I'm not sure what to make of it. I'll keep my vote on him for now but I need to check him out again. I kinda like this post. On July 08 2014 23:33 IAmRobik wrote:
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I did however agree with VE's read on mderg. I think he was the one who said that he was afraid to interact. He was more than happy to engage with people in previous games and seems less than active in this game. Obviously the two of them wouldn't be scum buddies though.
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I already said that comment from me was not to be taken seriously and I thought the smiley in my post made that obvious. On July 08 2014 23:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I actually like yamato and I'm nullish leaning town on prplhz, so I'm actually gonna stop pushing mderg becase A) I'm not getting any support for it and B) because ObiWan is an equally good lynch fmp. So yeah.
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##Vote: ObiWanShinobi This looks really bad to me. Considering how convinced you were of me being scum this unvote was surprisingly easy. I also can´t really grasp your reasons for voting ObiWanShinobi. I think you mentioned him 1 time before that vote and that mention didn´t look like a scumread to me. So you decide to change your vote from your biggest scumread to someone who somehow is an equally good lynch. There is a lack of explanation and it doesn´t make you look very townie. Going to bed now. If it goes on like this, I will have caught up in about 2 days... I also don´t like Cora and forumite. Those are a bit less clear but you could be able to see those. For a record, let's distinguish between Scumreading and Posting opinionsThe words ' like ' ' don´t like ' indicates opinion. Not scumreading. You never actively called someone scum yet. You have yet to post any proper reads that isn't replying to posts. Your tone indicates a huge buttload of passivity - almost like you are unwilling to do a proper read. Almost all your posts were on replies to posts about you. This is why I said that you were posting mostly when asked to. 'I also don´t like Cora and forumite. Those are a bit less clear but you could be able to see those.' If it is less clear, it doesn't exist. No solid read from you, at all. I need you to pick your scumreads now. No more wishy-washy reads. I literally cannot gather any info from you other than your passing comments. ##Vote: Mderg
EBWOP: I don't know why I wrote 'scumhunting' instead of 'scumreading'.
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On July 09 2014 04:16 mderg wrote:
After reading some of the discussion about forumite I don´t think he is scum. His reason for townreading prplhz is too incomprehensible to come from mafia. As mafia I would always try to find a reason others might agree with over something like this strange meta reason.
Your only post WITHOUT using someone else's material through replying/agreeing to posts is this post. Which is one of the first few posts you made this game.
If you're still puzzled on what to do in order to formulate a scumread:
1) Get a few scumreads (yamato/forumite/whatever) and talk about them WITHOUT saying things like 'yea I agree with this post so xxx is scummy etc'
2) Stop being wishy washy. Don't give us stuff like 'MAYBE he is scum/PROBABLY scum/MIGHT be scum'
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On July 11 2014 02:54 Corazon wrote:
Yo Vivax, I would've shot Robik but he didnt vote for Iamp so...
stop being useless and matyring
Tell us who you think are scum so that when you die, we can lynch them
Or make us believe you aren't scum by posting what you think others did more scummy
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I don't even care anymore if you refuse to reply/read other's reads
I just want to see what you have in your mind now
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On July 11 2014 02:50 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 02:47 Vivax wrote:On July 11 2014 01:32 HaruRH wrote:On July 10 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi. elaborate Mainly for the activity thingy where he decided to give leeway to iamp but not to Robik, I couldn't really see the scum agenda behind it. But thinking it through twice then that makes his iamp hammer even more illogical, so I'm taking that back, it was rash. I have a hard time believing that he was the guy who shot Obi: On July 10 2014 03:23 Corazon wrote:On July 10 2014 03:20 IAmRobik wrote:On July 10 2014 02:41 Corazon wrote:
Fuck it, Robik's just playing like an idiot.
I'll just fucking ignore everything he says and look for other lynch targets. It's pretty obvious that no one wants him lynched but me and we need a majority so...
##unvote: Robik
##Vote: Iamp[/B[ WHO'S PLAYING LIKE AN IDIOT NOW!??!?!?!? Please just do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up. You're just spewing out the stupidest shit ever just so people can read you as town. [b]Someone vig this idiot, please. Now he comes in with a claim that's supposed to save his ass, but then still martyrs even though he should have an entirely different attitude if he actually just shot scum. I would like the guy who shot Obi to claim cause I don't believe this guy. I don't believe that vig only have 1 shot. Thus it's unwise to ask for a claim now. As for cora, he is just seeking his own grave. Being unable to reply to ANY of the reads posted about him, he is certainly a viable lynch. Now we just need a second/third wagon and we are set. I am going to push Mderg.
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On July 11 2014 03:03 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 02:46 HaruRH wrote:On July 11 2014 00:06 mderg wrote:On July 10 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi. Here are some posts that look like pretty clear scumreading to me: On July 10 2014 19:31 mderg wrote:Reading the conversation between yamato and iamperfect is just awful. I have to check like 5 times every post to see who posted it because they both have an archon as profile pic. On July 09 2014 08:12 yamato77 wrote:
you're not that high on my townlist
I could see lynching you On July 09 2014 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
remember, I nailed you to the wall in catastrophe
I know how to read you I don´t like this by yamato. Keeping options open on iamperfection without a definite read but at the same time bragging about being able to read him. Seems scummy to me. On July 10 2014 08:44 mderg wrote:Some more catching up. On July 08 2014 23:33 Toadesstern wrote:Okay I don't think this answer from forumite fits at all: On July 08 2014 20:52 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 00:30 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:27 Toadesstern wrote:
waitwaitwait. That reasoning is stupid as hell but people use it. I do the same whenever I'm dealing with VE and it works wonders. No problem there and towniepoints for not being afraid to mention something that ridiculous lol.
However, this "strategy" is so odd that he shouldn't be expecting other people to use it as well. He's basicly stating that prplhz is town because he looks slightly scummy. If anything the guy should be gushing over me about how I'm a god at mafia for seeing that but STILL being wrong nonetheless according to him. Right? Yes, he did consider chainsawing you for reading prplhz as scum while he read prplhz as scum. The plot thickings *dum dum dum* exactly. At the same time he has the balls to outright state that for no reason whatsoever. Why would mafia say they were considering to chainsaw me. If this was someone like Marv or me who literally don't give a shit about how weak we post and do it on a regular basis to look like we're ballsy townies fine but this little detail doesn't fit in the picture of forumite being Mafia so far. That's what I meant with, he's not afraid of posting something that ridiculous (for both things). I'm actually fine with forumite for now lol Nha bro, that's not how it works. Mafia doesn't think about why they actually read people. They think about covering themselves if they get called out. Scum doesn't connect the "I can justify reading prplhz for town because my history with him" with "this guy is town because he scumreaded prplhz and I also do that as town". I am not saying it is impossible for scum to do it, but scum is more likely to slip in their reasoning doing these kinda connect reads. mafia more likely thinks "ok, prplhz is town and I can defend him with this meta reason x from past games, I could call the guy who is putting pressure on prplhz scum because he is wrong but let's go after this guy who is posting total nonsense, nobody will think I am off base for calling this guy out, he clearly is doing nothing". You should be proud of your case. It actually shows mafia mindset. This is the post you used to justify sheeping Toades. It´s WIFOM and lies. I never pushed Toades, I knew me not voting for prplhz doesn´t make Toades scum. I said I considered chainsawing him to fit in with my "read" on prplhz, but knowing that prplhz wasn´t really confirmed town to anyone else attacking Toades would have been a stupid thing to do. It´s still taken up as a reason why I´m scummy. Can´t you people read? I just don't see that fitting in with the rest. So he tells me to unvote, without an explanation while KNOWING that the townread on prplhz isn't obvious. And he doesn't try to stop me from voting prplhz either. But still proceeds to mention the read in the first place for no apparent reason and feels the need to tell people that he's smarter than to just chainsaw someone. This all sounds really fishy for me. The realization that a vote/attack on me would look stupid comming from himself. Sure he says it would be a stupid thing to do but well... Add to that that I'm not a fan of giving random townreads out like they're candy when you don't have a reason to do so, because it's the easiest thing in the world for mafia to do to look like they're doing something because they don't even have to lie about it and can later on come back and yell at people "told ya I was right about him" if a lynch happens... The reason I'm posting about this? If you ignore those weird parts inbetween he actually looks genuine recently and I'm not sure what to make of it. I'll keep my vote on him for now but I need to check him out again. I kinda like this post. On July 08 2014 23:33 IAmRobik wrote:
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I did however agree with VE's read on mderg. I think he was the one who said that he was afraid to interact. He was more than happy to engage with people in previous games and seems less than active in this game. Obviously the two of them wouldn't be scum buddies though.
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I already said that comment from me was not to be taken seriously and I thought the smiley in my post made that obvious. On July 08 2014 23:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I actually like yamato and I'm nullish leaning town on prplhz, so I'm actually gonna stop pushing mderg becase A) I'm not getting any support for it and B) because ObiWan is an equally good lynch fmp. So yeah.
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##Vote: ObiWanShinobi This looks really bad to me. Considering how convinced you were of me being scum this unvote was surprisingly easy. I also can´t really grasp your reasons for voting ObiWanShinobi. I think you mentioned him 1 time before that vote and that mention didn´t look like a scumread to me. So you decide to change your vote from your biggest scumread to someone who somehow is an equally good lynch. There is a lack of explanation and it doesn´t make you look very townie. Going to bed now. If it goes on like this, I will have caught up in about 2 days... I also don´t like Cora and forumite. Those are a bit less clear but you could be able to see those. For a record, let's distinguish between Scumhunting and Posting opinionsThe words ' like ' ' don´t like ' indicates opinion. Not scumhunting. You never actively called someone scum yet. You have yet to post any proper reads that isn't replying to posts. Your tone indicates a huge buttload of passivity - almost like you are unwilling to do a proper read. Almost all your posts were on replies to posts about you. This is why I said that you were posting mostly when asked to. 'I also don´t like Cora and forumite. Those are a bit less clear but you could be able to see those.' If it is less clear, it doesn't exist. No solid read from you, at all. I need you to pick your scumreads now. No more wishy-washy reads. I literally cannot gather any info from you other than your passing comments. ##Vote: Mderg I don´t want to call this case terrible but I think I have to. Do you want me to shout OMG SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM like Robik? I never did that and never will do that because it´s dumb. Unless I know 100% that someone is scum I won´t state as fact that he is scum. When I say that someone is scummy, I AM scumreading him! That most of my posts were on replies to posts about me is a straight up lie. If the post you quoted doesn´t tell you my scumreads, you can´t be helped.
well I think mderg is kinda scummy
yea I can see a vote on him working out
maybe we lynch him today?
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On July 11 2014 03:05 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 03:04 HaruRH wrote:On July 11 2014 03:03 mderg wrote:On July 11 2014 02:46 HaruRH wrote:On July 11 2014 00:06 mderg wrote:On July 10 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
I feel mderg has a good chance of being scum cause he posts very reactively and then mostly to discuss townreads with people or antagonize them about their scumreads.
Just from his filter I have a hard time telling who he's scumreading, or seeing that he has the intention to.
I'm more keen on lynching him than Cora atm. In fact I'd prefer if we didn't lynch Cora cause I can think of a few townie things in his filter, will elaborate if I see the need.
Will be less active in this game for a bit, don't rush it till I get to read some more please, especially the information around Obi. Here are some posts that look like pretty clear scumreading to me: On July 10 2014 19:31 mderg wrote:Reading the conversation between yamato and iamperfect is just awful. I have to check like 5 times every post to see who posted it because they both have an archon as profile pic. On July 09 2014 08:12 yamato77 wrote:
you're not that high on my townlist
I could see lynching you On July 09 2014 08:16 yamato77 wrote:
remember, I nailed you to the wall in catastrophe
I know how to read you I don´t like this by yamato. Keeping options open on iamperfection without a definite read but at the same time bragging about being able to read him. Seems scummy to me. On July 10 2014 08:44 mderg wrote:Some more catching up. On July 08 2014 23:33 Toadesstern wrote:Okay I don't think this answer from forumite fits at all: On July 08 2014 20:52 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote:
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exactly. At the same time he has the balls to outright state that for no reason whatsoever. Why would mafia say they were considering to chainsaw me. If this was someone like Marv or me who literally don't give a shit about how weak we post and do it on a regular basis to look like we're ballsy townies fine but this little detail doesn't fit in the picture of forumite being Mafia so far.
That's what I meant with, he's not afraid of posting something that ridiculous (for both things). I'm actually fine with forumite for now lol Nha bro, that's not how it works. Mafia doesn't think about why they actually read people. They think about covering themselves if they get called out. Scum doesn't connect the "I can justify reading prplhz for town because my history with him" with "this guy is town because he scumreaded prplhz and I also do that as town". I am not saying it is impossible for scum to do it, but scum is more likely to slip in their reasoning doing these kinda connect reads. mafia more likely thinks "ok, prplhz is town and I can defend him with this meta reason x from past games, I could call the guy who is putting pressure on prplhz scum because he is wrong but let's go after this guy who is posting total nonsense, nobody will think I am off base for calling this guy out, he clearly is doing nothing". You should be proud of your case. It actually shows mafia mindset. This is the post you used to justify sheeping Toades. It´s WIFOM and lies. I never pushed Toades, I knew me not voting for prplhz doesn´t make Toades scum. I said I considered chainsawing him to fit in with my "read" on prplhz, but knowing that prplhz wasn´t really confirmed town to anyone else attacking Toades would have been a stupid thing to do. It´s still taken up as a reason why I´m scummy. Can´t you people read? I just don't see that fitting in with the rest. So he tells me to unvote, without an explanation while KNOWING that the townread on prplhz isn't obvious. And he doesn't try to stop me from voting prplhz either. But still proceeds to mention the read in the first place for no apparent reason and feels the need to tell people that he's smarter than to just chainsaw someone. This all sounds really fishy for me. The realization that a vote/attack on me would look stupid comming from himself. Sure he says it would be a stupid thing to do but well... Add to that that I'm not a fan of giving random townreads out like they're candy when you don't have a reason to do so, because it's the easiest thing in the world for mafia to do to look like they're doing something because they don't even have to lie about it and can later on come back and yell at people "told ya I was right about him" if a lynch happens... The reason I'm posting about this? If you ignore those weird parts inbetween he actually looks genuine recently and I'm not sure what to make of it. I'll keep my vote on him for now but I need to check him out again. I kinda like this post. On July 08 2014 23:33 IAmRobik wrote:
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I did however agree with VE's read on mderg. I think he was the one who said that he was afraid to interact. He was more than happy to engage with people in previous games and seems less than active in this game. Obviously the two of them wouldn't be scum buddies though.
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I already said that comment from me was not to be taken seriously and I thought the smiley in my post made that obvious. On July 08 2014 23:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I actually like yamato and I'm nullish leaning town on prplhz, so I'm actually gonna stop pushing mderg becase A) I'm not getting any support for it and B) because ObiWan is an equally good lynch fmp. So yeah.
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##Vote: ObiWanShinobi This looks really bad to me. Considering how convinced you were of me being scum this unvote was surprisingly easy. I also can´t really grasp your reasons for voting ObiWanShinobi. I think you mentioned him 1 time before that vote and that mention didn´t look like a scumread to me. So you decide to change your vote from your biggest scumread to someone who somehow is an equally good lynch. There is a lack of explanation and it doesn´t make you look very townie. Going to bed now. If it goes on like this, I will have caught up in about 2 days... I also don´t like Cora and forumite. Those are a bit less clear but you could be able to see those. For a record, let's distinguish between Scumhunting and Posting opinionsThe words ' like ' ' don´t like ' indicates opinion. Not scumhunting. You never actively called someone scum yet. You have yet to post any proper reads that isn't replying to posts. Your tone indicates a huge buttload of passivity - almost like you are unwilling to do a proper read. Almost all your posts were on replies to posts about you. This is why I said that you were posting mostly when asked to. 'I also don´t like Cora and forumite. Those are a bit less clear but you could be able to see those.' If it is less clear, it doesn't exist. No solid read from you, at all. I need you to pick your scumreads now. No more wishy-washy reads. I literally cannot gather any info from you other than your passing comments. ##Vote: Mderg I don´t want to call this case terrible but I think I have to. Do you want me to shout OMG SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM like Robik? I never did that and never will do that because it´s dumb. Unless I know 100% that someone is scum I won´t state as fact that he is scum. When I say that someone is scummy, I AM scumreading him! That most of my posts were on replies to posts about me is a straight up lie. If the post you quoted doesn´t tell you my scumreads, you can´t be helped. well I think mderg is kinda scummy yea I can see a vote on him working out maybe we lynch him today? You´re just fucking dumb
Your filter is beautiful, it's basically full of spoilers and I can just read your filter without needing to read others anymore
still 0 proper reads
no push
scumreads are weak
and who asked you to scream scum scum scum like robik, I didn't suggest/say that at all.
Btw this sentence makes 0 sense: 'Unless I know 100% that someone is scum I won´t state as fact that he is scum.' because if you're town, you cannot state anyone as scum, ever, Unless you're cop, then you only have 1 scumread.
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On July 11 2014 18:24 ExO_ wrote:
So far I think Toad/Layabout/Viscera are town. They are all very actively trying to solve the game and I don't think that mafia would be doing it quite like this at this point.
I'm not sure that I think the case on mderg is that great, but his silence is disturbing. Seems like he's letting the case on him pass hoping the stuff with BM takes over. I'm not sure what to think about him, could flip either way at this point.
But I don't understand why BM would fake claim role block? It doesn't make any sense. And I don't fully understand the masoning stuff happening with Koshi/prplhz could somebody explain to me how that would work?
And I definitely think scum is lurking right now, so I'm suspicious of people such as:
Forumite/Alakaslam/Damdred/HaruRH/layabout
and would like to hear from them in the thread
How the hell am I lurking when I just woke up
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On July 11 2014 23:40 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 22:58 Koshi wrote:
pro-tip for everybody.
Robik was not a VT. How you know this
check his role pm
Basically, no actions other than mafia shot can be done on him
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On July 12 2014 05:39 Koshi wrote:town in world cupscum in detention mafiascum in Normal mini numberedtown in Glory seeker mafiaOk so here is some meta. If you look at the scum games you see that mderg starts a lot of sentences with "I think" "I don't think" "I don't like" etc. He doesn't do it in World Cup. He doesn't do it here. Sadly he does it a lot in Glory Seeker mafia as town as well. so meh. Anybody else seeing differences or similarities? Time to get some towncred and be useful guys!
He doesn't do it here? So is my post leading up to the vote on mderg useless/fake?
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I´m pretty sure
I also think Robik is town.
I think Toades´ line of thought was perfectly reasonable here.
I really dislike this post. It´s incrediibly useless to tell me that.
I like the thoughts on Toad, Cora and Vivax.
I don´t like that forumite keeps his vote on koshi here
I kinda like this post.
This looks really bad to me
I don´t like this by yamato.
I also don´t like Cora and forumite
I don´t want to call this case terrible but I think I have to.
I don´t like his policy to not make reads D1 but he always seems to do that
I don´t really know why but I get a townie feeling about him
I didn´t like his defense of me
I didn´t like how he pushed koshi´s lynch list while not really giving any reasoning on the lynch targets himself
I also didn´t like how he blindly sheeped Robik´s read when he was dead
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On July 12 2014 06:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 06:07 HaruRH wrote:I´m pretty sure I also think Robik is town. I think Toades´ line of thought was perfectly reasonable here. I really dislike this post. It´s incrediibly useless to tell me that. I like the thoughts on Toad, Cora and Vivax. I don´t like that forumite keeps his vote on koshi here I kinda like this post. This looks really bad to me I don´t like this by yamato. I also don´t like Cora and forumite I don´t want to call this case terrible but I think I have to. I don´t like his policy to not make reads D1 but he always seems to do that I don´t really know why but I get a townie feeling about him I didn´t like his defense of me I didn´t like how he pushed koshi´s lynch list while not really giving any reasoning on the lynch targets himself I also didn´t like how he blindly sheeped Robik´s read when he was dead If that's all from this game we should lynch him  I am not seeing things right? He does say "I don't like" "I think" way more in his scumgames?
There's more, I just cant be arsed to quote them
Yes.
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On July 13 2014 14:23 Bill Murray wrote:
OMFG Scum don't have trackers
1) SINANI ISNT A MASON/MASON PEOPLE. He only lets 2 PEOPLE (can be town or scum) pm each other. Your 'sinani mason me so im town' argument is rubbish.
2) How did you know if mafia dont have trackers? Did you ask palmar or did you ask them in the scum qt?
3) why the fuck did you even track kush.
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On July 14 2014 08:11 HiroPro wrote:
we lynch kush. he didn't look good even before this and not saying anything about whether he no-visited or not looks bad. if he flips town, we kill bm. as simple as that in my opinion.
##vote kush
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EPT
