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omg omg omg omg omg !!! The game started  REading up whats going on?
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On July 08 2014 00:00 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 23:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'd like to add that I like Forumite's position of wanting to lynch early. I'd like to add that in addition to pressuring mafia, it also has the benefit of giving us information earlier. IML is OP. This is stupid we are lynching when palmar warns us to lynch. We can do quicker lynches later on. Day 1 will be used to gather as much info as possible.
this makes perfect sense
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On July 08 2014 01:47 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 01:46 kushm4sta wrote:
unless we find fairly certain scum I should be plynched, because im not going to look at my role pm until the end of n1, when I may have to use my role.
If i'm scum you will probably never catch me because I can just take the free ride with my townie suspicions from d1. whatever vig vig this kid
vig everyone negative nancy.
1 off wifom
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On July 08 2014 03:14 iamperfection wrote:
I am now making it official policy that is anti town to not use the name that the person signed up with. Who is banks?
hehehe this makes sense.
HEAR YE VIDEO PLAYAZ
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On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.
WIFOM
you been buddy since hour 1
nope
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On July 08 2014 08:44 Toadesstern wrote:nothing that stood out for me either way as of yet. I got some chills when he said he doesn't trust me because it felt a little buddy-buddy / trying to make fun with me but we do know each other so that's fine with me. As for real input... I can't even remember anything he's done except for that post when he quoted the list post which seemed a little weak. Completly null on him right now. Other than that I think his/her figure looks pretty awesome if you ignore legs and knees: + Show Spoiler +
That's very odd to me, because in his filter he states that cora is off the table in his mind for similarly as vague and useless of reasons as forum had in regard to prp. And cora is one of your lynch targets.
On July 08 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
I'm a connoiseur of Cora lynches, and its usually pretty funny to do so, but I think he's legit town this game and I have a vested interest in winning.
Cora thus far has come out with his little reads post, and then has since been under fire for it. This happens literally every game he plays. The way he defends himself is genuine this game, as opposed to the forced way he went about it in Quiet Game where he was scum. Believe me, I know the difference.
Doesn't really seem fully consistent to me.
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On July 07 2014 23:21 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 23:14 Vivax wrote:On July 07 2014 23:05 Toadesstern wrote:YES BITCHES. I'm not fucking mafia again. Who is up to be my buddy on my legendary quest to murder all of mafia? So that being said I can somewhat guarantee you that I won't become a whiny emo bitch. But really only somewhat. Let's start with prplhz because he indeed is way to stiff for this game, especially in the very beginning. I agree with ... I think Vivax ... that he did sound unmotivated and down in his early posts. Combine that with posts like On July 07 2014 21:33 prplhz wrote:
is has nothing to do with confidence or mentality but with an objective evaluation of the situation right now and he's easily #1 lynch target right now. If that post isn't some kind of super hard sarcasm that I'm not picking up on it's super "wtf is that guy even talking about" in a way that at the same time tries to sound reasonable / smart / whatever you want to call it. ##vote prplhz Why should mafia sound unmotivated and down in their early posts. Why should they post at all if they are unmotivated and down when their objective is to look townie. This post is too confident about too little for my taste and doesn't deliver any explanation why that mindset makes prpl scum. Explain why mafia would sound like that or you're scum Toad. Why would Town post if they're unmotivated and down? - I don't have a clue. I'd say a townie wouldn't mind being a little afk early on because he's usually confident enough to at least look townish enough to not get lynched to the point that one's own judgement of the situation is usually vastly off the mark when playing town. Why would Mafia post if they're unmotivated and down? - Because that's the point of the game for mafia. They do not wish to contribute anything meaningful to begin with but have to look like they do. Posting while not feeling like it for mafia is what they're going to have to do all game long. On top of that, mafias usually are a lot more selfaware about when it comes about how something would make them look, assuming they're experienced enough to grasp the situation which prplhz is. So mafia doesn't want to be a lurker as mafia for the sake of not being a lurker. That's a completly different approach to a townie he's ACTUALLY posting because he feels like he has something on his mind. That's 2 reasons for mafia to do that and 0 reasons for a townie to do that. I could give you some reasons for a townie to do the same but that'd require some kind of trolling from his side to be true, which just isn't the case.
Well now!
I think I can trust toad
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On July 08 2014 08:56 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:44 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 08:34 ritoky wrote:
@Toades: what do you think of yamato77? nothing that stood out for me either way as of yet. I got some chills when he said he doesn't trust me because it felt a little buddy-buddy / trying to make fun with me but we do know each other so that's fine with me. As for real input... I can't even remember anything he's done except for that post when he quoted the list post which seemed a little weak. Completly null on him right now. Other than that I think his/her figure looks pretty awesome if you ignore legs and knees: + Show Spoiler + That's very odd to me, because in his filter he states that cora is off the table in his mind for similarly as vague and useless of reasons as forum had in regard to prp. And cora is one of your lynch targets. Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
I'm a connoiseur of Cora lynches, and its usually pretty funny to do so, but I think he's legit town this game and I have a vested interest in winning.
Cora thus far has come out with his little reads post, and then has since been under fire for it. This happens literally every game he plays. The way he defends himself is genuine this game, as opposed to the forced way he went about it in Quiet Game where he was scum. Believe me, I know the difference. Doesn't really seem fully consistent to me.
pfft you misinterpret yamato.
He makes perfect sense there.
Cora does the same scummy thing every game
Cora gets called out on it every game
Cora defends differently in an alignment indicative way
Yamato concludes that his defending here is his town way
how is that inconsistent
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On July 08 2014 09:01 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:56 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 08:44 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 08:34 ritoky wrote:
@Toades: what do you think of yamato77? nothing that stood out for me either way as of yet. I got some chills when he said he doesn't trust me because it felt a little buddy-buddy / trying to make fun with me but we do know each other so that's fine with me. As for real input... I can't even remember anything he's done except for that post when he quoted the list post which seemed a little weak. Completly null on him right now. Other than that I think his/her figure looks pretty awesome if you ignore legs and knees: + Show Spoiler + That's very odd to me, because in his filter he states that cora is off the table in his mind for similarly as vague and useless of reasons as forum had in regard to prp. And cora is one of your lynch targets. On July 08 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
I'm a connoiseur of Cora lynches, and its usually pretty funny to do so, but I think he's legit town this game and I have a vested interest in winning.
Cora thus far has come out with his little reads post, and then has since been under fire for it. This happens literally every game he plays. The way he defends himself is genuine this game, as opposed to the forced way he went about it in Quiet Game where he was scum. Believe me, I know the difference. Doesn't really seem fully consistent to me. pfft you misinterpret yamato. He makes perfect sense there. Cora does the same scummy thing every game Cora gets called out on it every game Cora defends differently in an alignment indicative way Yamato concludes that his defending here is his town way how is that inconsistent
because i think yamato's reasoning is equally as bad as forums, but he is only critical of 1
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On July 08 2014 08:56 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:44 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 08:34 ritoky wrote:
@Toades: what do you think of yamato77? nothing that stood out for me either way as of yet. I got some chills when he said he doesn't trust me because it felt a little buddy-buddy / trying to make fun with me but we do know each other so that's fine with me. As for real input... I can't even remember anything he's done except for that post when he quoted the list post which seemed a little weak. Completly null on him right now. Other than that I think his/her figure looks pretty awesome if you ignore legs and knees: + Show Spoiler + That's very odd to me, because in his filter he states that cora is off the table in his mind for similarly as vague and useless of reasons as forum had in regard to prp. And cora is one of your lynch targets. Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
I'm a connoiseur of Cora lynches, and its usually pretty funny to do so, but I think he's legit town this game and I have a vested interest in winning.
Cora thus far has come out with his little reads post, and then has since been under fire for it. This happens literally every game he plays. The way he defends himself is genuine this game, as opposed to the forced way he went about it in Quiet Game where he was scum. Believe me, I know the difference. Doesn't really seem fully consistent to me.
I don't think anyone besides iamp would be up for the cora lynch together with me right now and I don't hold grudges against people for disagreeing with me so I don't have a problem with that.
I'd have to read the games he posted about to judge that post and I can't be bothered to do that so I ignore it.
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On July 07 2014 23:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 23:26 Vivax wrote:They do not wish to contribute anything meaningful to begin with but have to look like they do. Does prpl look like he was trying to contribute something meaningful? Frankly to me that looks more like it's the case with you, you don't try to figure him out first, but say that he's scum for 1. sounding down, 2. saying something that didn't make sense. How does that look like he's trying to contribute something meaningful. Imo mafia is more likely to pop into the thread with some hasty arguments as to why somebody is scum, like you. I think he looking out of place early on and way to stiff. That's what I observered. The "trying to post something" thing can be a reason for that. I can't tell you if that's what's happening though because as you said, it didn't look like he was ramping up the pace. About the last part: I'm sorry I'm trying to actually do something instead of circlejerking while talking about the weather or some .gif someone posted. We can all hold hands and pretend that we're all friends and ALL OF US are town until d2 hits but I usually like to start with gloves off to get something going right off the bat and refraining from covering my posts with a bunch of flowery terms usually does the trick. In no way did I say I want him instalynched. I said he's the best lynch right now. That might still be up for discussion and I might change my opinion on him based on what else I see about him or other people, who knows it's a couple hours into d1... Doesn't change the fact that he is the #1 lynch for me right now. Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 23:27 Koshi wrote:
Toad, imagine the next 12 people that post vote prplhz based on your case alone.
How happy would you be with the lynch? Not happy at all
I agree with almost everything in this
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On July 08 2014 09:02 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 09:01 Alakaslam wrote:On July 08 2014 08:56 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 08:44 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 08:34 ritoky wrote:
@Toades: what do you think of yamato77? nothing that stood out for me either way as of yet. I got some chills when he said he doesn't trust me because it felt a little buddy-buddy / trying to make fun with me but we do know each other so that's fine with me. As for real input... I can't even remember anything he's done except for that post when he quoted the list post which seemed a little weak. Completly null on him right now. Other than that I think his/her figure looks pretty awesome if you ignore legs and knees: + Show Spoiler + That's very odd to me, because in his filter he states that cora is off the table in his mind for similarly as vague and useless of reasons as forum had in regard to prp. And cora is one of your lynch targets. On July 08 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
I'm a connoiseur of Cora lynches, and its usually pretty funny to do so, but I think he's legit town this game and I have a vested interest in winning.
Cora thus far has come out with his little reads post, and then has since been under fire for it. This happens literally every game he plays. The way he defends himself is genuine this game, as opposed to the forced way he went about it in Quiet Game where he was scum. Believe me, I know the difference. Doesn't really seem fully consistent to me. pfft you misinterpret yamato. He makes perfect sense there. Cora does the same scummy thing every game Cora gets called out on it every game Cora defends differently in an alignment indicative way Yamato concludes that his defending here is his town way how is that inconsistent because i think yamato's reasoning is equally as bad as forums, but he is only critical of 1
one of your quotes is toad
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On July 08 2014 09:02 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 09:01 Alakaslam wrote:On July 08 2014 08:56 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 08:44 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 08:34 ritoky wrote:
@Toades: what do you think of yamato77? nothing that stood out for me either way as of yet. I got some chills when he said he doesn't trust me because it felt a little buddy-buddy / trying to make fun with me but we do know each other so that's fine with me. As for real input... I can't even remember anything he's done except for that post when he quoted the list post which seemed a little weak. Completly null on him right now. Other than that I think his/her figure looks pretty awesome if you ignore legs and knees: + Show Spoiler + That's very odd to me, because in his filter he states that cora is off the table in his mind for similarly as vague and useless of reasons as forum had in regard to prp. And cora is one of your lynch targets. On July 08 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
I'm a connoiseur of Cora lynches, and its usually pretty funny to do so, but I think he's legit town this game and I have a vested interest in winning.
Cora thus far has come out with his little reads post, and then has since been under fire for it. This happens literally every game he plays. The way he defends himself is genuine this game, as opposed to the forced way he went about it in Quiet Game where he was scum. Believe me, I know the difference. Doesn't really seem fully consistent to me. pfft you misinterpret yamato. He makes perfect sense there. Cora does the same scummy thing every game Cora gets called out on it every game Cora defends differently in an alignment indicative way Yamato concludes that his defending here is his town way how is that inconsistent because i think yamato's reasoning is equally as bad as forums, but he is only critical of 1
You mean Toad is only critical of one.
This could cause confusion when people read your filter if you don't say who "he" is.
On July 08 2014 03:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.
Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.
Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.
Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.
Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).
Does this make me town? On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted. It doesn't necessarily make you town and it doesn't make you scum at this point. However your post screams hey guys i'm a townie look i'm being helpful, which is cool it just brings heat down on you and makes you look like you are trying to be seen as town.
Toad seems to be playing semi-aggressive I don't know if that can be said he isn't scum hunting however at the moment anyway.
On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:
*snip*
And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor
+ Show Spoiler +
Elaborate on Toad please. Is he aggressive and you don't know if that can be said? You don't know it can be said if he isn't scumhunting? He isn't scumhunting? Is he scummy to you? You don't want to lynch him cause he's likely to be checked?
It's really confusing to get what you're saying sometimes and for the "he's gonna be checked" part I have a hard time believing that it's a legit reason to not want to lynch somebody.
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On July 08 2014 08:17 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Gonna play LoL, then filter some dudes, then come back and elaborate on why I wanna lynch mderg. After how much time does VE claiming to go play League and him not logging in does it become unacceptable for him to have left thread for no reason other than to leave the thread?
lol
That's all. Just lol.
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On July 08 2014 09:01 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:56 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 08:44 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 08:34 ritoky wrote:
@Toades: what do you think of yamato77? nothing that stood out for me either way as of yet. I got some chills when he said he doesn't trust me because it felt a little buddy-buddy / trying to make fun with me but we do know each other so that's fine with me. As for real input... I can't even remember anything he's done except for that post when he quoted the list post which seemed a little weak. Completly null on him right now. Other than that I think his/her figure looks pretty awesome if you ignore legs and knees: + Show Spoiler + That's very odd to me, because in his filter he states that cora is off the table in his mind for similarly as vague and useless of reasons as forum had in regard to prp. And cora is one of your lynch targets. On July 08 2014 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
I'm a connoiseur of Cora lynches, and its usually pretty funny to do so, but I think he's legit town this game and I have a vested interest in winning.
Cora thus far has come out with his little reads post, and then has since been under fire for it. This happens literally every game he plays. The way he defends himself is genuine this game, as opposed to the forced way he went about it in Quiet Game where he was scum. Believe me, I know the difference. Doesn't really seem fully consistent to me. pfft you misinterpret yamato. He makes perfect sense there. Cora does the same scummy thing every game Cora gets called out on it every game Cora defends differently in an alignment indicative way Yamato concludes that his defending here is his town way how is that inconsistent
I think this post is actually one of the first posts that is logical and readable from Slam.
Omgerd.
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So, Alakaslam, you think prplhz is scum?
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On July 08 2014 09:11 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:17 IAmRobik wrote:On July 08 2014 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Gonna play LoL, then filter some dudes, then come back and elaborate on why I wanna lynch mderg. After how much time does VE claiming to go play League and him not logging in does it become unacceptable for him to have left thread for no reason other than to leave the thread? lol That's all. Just lol.
No, you forgot your case on mderg.
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On July 08 2014 02:12 Toadesstern wrote:
If anything I trust my mini-case way more than my judgement about how likely he is to slip or not, so if anything he's still way on the mafia-side of reads. I'm just having 2nd thoughts about it because of his ballsyness.
If you're such a god that you don't ever question yourself 10 hours into the game and think everything you've said has to be correct, be my guest to take that stance but I won't. And I won't listen to a thing you say if you actually think that's how people should play mafia like.
haha I want to know who this was aimed at
I think this mindset is really widespread
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On July 08 2014 09:12 Vivax wrote:
So, Alakaslam, you think prplhz is scum?
not necessarily.
I agree with Toad's mindsets but can't even understand his case
+ Show Spoiler + I actually can't even find hsi case on prp
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