TL Mafia LXVII: Storm Mafia 2 - Page 28

On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:



I have read all of the thread and have tried to keep up to date.

Koshis posting annoyed me a little with the riddles and what not, even though I understand that he was trying to stir up some kind of activity (possibly) from his postings the town does not benefit from random posts that clutter up the thread. However I do think his early postings were trolling and his later ones did add some thought to the thread, Robik's postings have been interesting and he has interacted with the people outside of being random, his overall overreaction to being called scum is note worthy and could be a deflection but i'm not sure.

If I was forced to name a few people that gave me interest at this moment I would go with Forumite, VE. I wouldn't say lynch them, Forumites read early on is a bit odd and his and VE call to get a majority lynch in the first 24 hrs or so troubles me. The more time we have to talk and to pry information from people the better rather than the less time. Even though day 1 is always odd in my opinion and you don't have much to go on its always good to gauge how people react.

I probably wouldn't lynch exo at this point, or toads. Exo has a history of playing aloof and you can never tell much about him day one. And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor

On July 08 2014 06:02 ExO_ wrote:


I could never hope to match how much of a joke you are!

On July 08 2014 06:06 IAmRobik wrote:
We're lynching sloosh today. Can't explain it, but s/he's mafia

On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:
Heyo.

I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this?


He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads.

Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads?

You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here.

Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place.


Both Koshi and Toads have had a little back and forth on why they find Forumite suspicious. He says of Toads that his pushing on himself makes objective reading difficult, so he defers to other's opinions on Toad (slightly townie).

Stop. Think. Who else has pushed Forumite and is generally considered townie (or at least not scum)?

Koshi has also been pushing Forumite but he doesn't bring that hesitation with Toads to Koshi. He dismisses what Koshi says as WIFOM (it's not).

Conclusion: Another inconsistency in his play.

Let's crank up the heat.

##Vote: Forumite

On July 08 2014 06:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I don't know about the rest of you guys, but this guy here is now off of my lynch list.

On July 08 2014 06:16 Alakaslam wrote:

Orly? If I start being raynic as well will you townread me?

On July 08 2014 06:16 Alakaslam wrote:

Orly? If I start being raynic as well will you townread me?

On July 08 2014 06:15 IAmRobik wrote:


Actually I can explain it.

This is Sloosh's first post.



Instead of coming in and reading everything, he chose to pick on Forumite who some people have suspicion on and build a long case on him after basically afk'ing.

This is precisely what I called gumshoe out on in GSL and it's the easiest thing to do as mafia to make it look like you're actually scum hunting. He provides no other reads and doesn't add anything but a long accusation on someone who is already under pressure.

SLOOSH IS SCUM SCUM SCUM

On July 08 2014 06:20 Koshi wrote:

Is the case good?

On July 08 2014 06:17 Koshi wrote:

pls. You cannot be rayn.

On July 08 2014 06:16 Koshi wrote:

Nothing he said in that post made me think he is town. He is right about more time = better. But it is moot to say it atm. We are going towards a long D1.
His scumreads are pretty basic and not based on anything scummy. Just 2 people who opposed his opinion (more time = better). If you see what SloOsh typed and then what Damdred typed I would prefer to keep SlOosh in the game. Because it is more interesting to read. Damdred didn't do any work. VE his filter is pretty controversial anyway and he could actually say way more about VE then "he wants to lynch within 24h" but I feel like he is holding back. Holding back is always scummy.

So yeah. Not liking Damdred atm. Not disliking maybe. Dnu. Depends on how smart he sounds later on.

On July 08 2014 06:16 Koshi wrote:

Nothing he said in that post made me think he is town. He is right about more time = better. But it is moot to say it atm. We are going towards a long D1.
His scumreads are pretty basic and not based on anything scummy. Just 2 people who opposed his opinion (more time = better). If you see what SloOsh typed and then what Damdred typed I would prefer to keep SlOosh in the game. Because it is more interesting to read. Damdred didn't do any work. VE his filter is pretty controversial anyway and he could actually say way more about VE then "he wants to lynch within 24h" but I feel like he is holding back. Holding back is always scummy.

So yeah. Not liking Damdred atm. Not disliking maybe. Dnu. Depends on how smart he sounds later on.

On July 08 2014 06:27 Damdred wrote:


Not sure why it has to be a decision between sloosh or myself or why that is even relevant. Maybe you liked what sloosh wrote more that's your prerogative. People who try to hurry up votes tend to look like scum I was asked my thoughts and i volunteered some things that I thought and answered the questions posed to me. If you notice the question being asked wasn't go into great detail it was just give me a sentence or so. Which is what I did, if you have any concerns to float my way do so and i'll answer those as well.

On February 16 2014 17:20 gumshoe wrote:
Haro! So I've pretty much blitzed through the thread, but obviously the most recent event eclipses everything that came before it so I've reconfigured most of my reads in light of it. The only reason I can see Moc quitting like he has is if he feels like his scum team has completely failed him, which he straight up acknowledges in the case of Rayn. Gives me the sense that most of his scum team are incompetent and already under pressure. I also dont think hed reveal like this if there were one or two members of his team on at his time of confession, which would be a bit of a dick move, this tentatively clears Grack( who I had pinged as null) thrawn(his posting aggravates me a smidge just like in the last serius game we played, so probs town) and bum, all of whom had decent thread presence and posted within a couple hours of mocstas confession. Bum I especially consider townie because of how seemingly sincere hes been in his attempts to push discussion, case in point this post glows green to my eyes.

"It seems like you have a stronger read on Vivax then you do QuantomPope. Can you respond to what he has said. I would appreciate if you two(three?) would hash out what you think of each other. I'm in the same boat with your scum list, but because you don't go into much detail, I can't benefit from what you think!"

An attempt at getting a contribution out of a player whose likely to be lynched comes off as a weird scum play, unless that scum player is totally confident that the townie will provide misinformation. Something I dont think a scum bum would count on.

Vivax also posted within range of the confession, but even disregarding that I honestly cant believe Mocsta would quit like this if he had Vivax on his team. Same reasoning applies to rob.

Which leaves a pool of six within which lies the last two scum.

1:Shiapi: Has done extremely little for town, that much hasnt changed, Round hasnt really said much on him all game long, usually deflecting questions or arguments against him onto someone else, only once he became the clear lynch did Moc/rayn hop on the wagon faithfully. A shiapi scum partner would def fit the bad scum team narrative.

2:Mattchew: Posts a bunch of one liners, mostly comments on others reads, has a relative amount of heat on him, thread presence low to medium. I dont think hes scum with shiapi unless shiao called his mother a goat or something. Although that would explain Mocs exasperation with his team, meh.

3: Quantom Pope: Extremely low content, could definitely see Mocsta getting pissed about being with this guy.

4:Mordanis: His early posts look like they have some actual, albiet befuddled, thought to them but his targets are odd, and bieng reasonable more often than not does not translate to bieng townie. He goes after Rob and Vivax, two relatively green players at the time, strange choices even if you take into account the volatile nature of any games start. Another odd thing is Rounds hard defense of him.

"I think Mordanis has about the best posts in thread. Yes they are worded a bit awkwardly and idk what that means. He can answer for himself about that. The "brb gonna go write a wall of text case against everyone" is an obvious joke and everyone should be able to realise it.."

at the time Mordanis had done a decent amount of contribution, but it's odd just how far Round sticks his neck out for him, going so far as to call his posts the best thread... Not even sure if Rayn's the kinda player to do that if they were buddies. Could just as well be post flip posturing on a possible lynch target, a motive backed up by Rayns willingness to change his stance on Mord as scum got more desperate for a lynch. Definitely a frustrating scum partner to have, so Mord does fit the terrible scum team theory.

5: Sidesprang: Not much of a contributor, but reads townie to me . Him asking for my replacement seems like a pretty unscummy thing to do, scum would want my slot to stay inactive as long as possible, yet here he is pretty much begging for a real contributor. Also his asking for a townie certificate... Considering the dark green and bloody history of Coag's accursed emblem, seems pretty brazen. Oh and his first vote, although a light hearted one, was on Mocsta... yeah maybe hes scum? Extremely reckless if thats the case, doesn't ultimately read red to me.

6: Jar Jar: least scummy of the bunch, has his own thoughts, pushes his own reads, generally helps town, I can elaborate if anyone likes but if you read through his filter you can see that although sherlock he aint, hes certainly doing more for town than anyone else on this list,(admittedly not saying much.)

Thats all for now, if anyone has any questions, I'll answer them tomorrow, it's been a long day, gl and good night town.

Oh and regardless of all this, no reason to not vote round. Hurray for free lynch!

On July 08 2014 06:30 Koshi wrote:

Yes. You are a pretty friendly and nice guy.