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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 18:24 GMT
#421
On July 08 2014 03:18 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:15 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:12 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:01 Koshi wrote:
Robik, I also tend to spam a lot "Guys, I am totes town" as town and I am upset when people don't see me as town when I am totes being honest but in reality spamming that you are town when people raise legit arguments around you works against you.

Also remember how I a dick towards you in some game because you were a dick and I like to keep people honest? This game has other rules so let's be like really really friendly because we can.

It is so blatantly obvious that I'm monitoring my own posts to make sure that I don't go off on someone.

As for people seeing me as town, well it is obvious, so people saying otherwise are 1) not genuine 2) bad at this game

You say all that but things like: "I am voting Kush because of the mafia meta case I posted on him" are sitting wrong with me. Because we both played in another game recently in which Kush flipped town and he did the exact same thing. You were being an ass to him about it back then I think? I don't even remember. But I think you were. And when I say "an ass" I mean scumreading him. And while you were doing that Kush actually voted for tehpoofter who flipped scum.

Now somebody here even said that he wouldn't do it when he is blue. Now guess what? In that other game. hmm hmm. Only talking about flips here.

So. In this game Kush is doing the same thing tbh. Maybe a bit less spectacular. So yeah. Maybe he is totes scum and pretending to be the same. But Kush is an atypical player. So maybe he is just honest. So. Who knows?

Fact is. You are not considering all these things you see. I don't like it.

That's why I am not totally impressed with Robiktheamazingmagus.

But not scumreading you. Just hoping you are more amazing than pushing this silly plynch. And now that I have seen that you can push silly things I need to really make it known to you that you can push silly things. You lost the "benefit of the doubt". I encourage you to retake it.

I am totes a smart player sheeper. You should be offended I am not sheeping you anymore.

I'm giving my reads, but at the end of the day, I plan on sheeping iamperfection anyway.
I think that I've shown the difference between town!kush not reading pm and mafia!kush not reading pm. I didn't go ham on kush last game for not reading pm. I went hard on him for not claiming what I wanted him to claim. Once he did that and I saw how he was palying the rest of the game I actually had him as town and didn't pressure him. Obviously in Order I didn't pressure him for it cause we were both mafia.

But Plammar tried to claim the same thing in Heavyweight after reading his role PM and I hammered the shit out of him and he was mafia. So meh.l

Really didn't know you operated that way.

In a game on VS recently, I had someone as really really town. I was town. Marv was trying to push the person i thought was town. I counterpushed onto someone I thought was scummy (but hadn't voted that person). Marv went onto the person I was pushing and a bunch of people jumped onto that as well. Marv and I simultaneously felt bad about the counterwagon and he voted for the person he originally found scummy (the one I thought was towny). I hemmed and hawed for a while before sheeping marv and lynching my town read who turned out to be mafia. I'm a very reasonable guy as long as people don't lie to my face and don't call me mafia.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
July 07 2014 18:25 GMT
#422
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 18:25 GMT
#423
On July 08 2014 03:22 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:14 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.

Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus.


Order was the game I was talking about I don't think there was another game?

Oh, it wasn't you. Anyway, I really don't like being called scum incorrectly. Any focus towards me is bad for town because that means we are focusing on a towny instead of focusing on scum



Yeah you say stuff like that a lot in the games I've played with you as both alignments.

In the one game I played when you were mafia though (Order) you were a lot more upset when someone called you mafia early. Not in the sense that you were being a dick, but in the sense that you were genuinely upset/angry/nervous or something. I don't think you are posting differently from then because "don't be a dick" is in the rules this game.

So am I town or am I mafia. You're really not being clear about what you're trying to say.

(The correct answer is "I think you're town", so that you can get post-game props for being right)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 07 2014 18:26 GMT
#424
On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.

Well. I was thinking the same but was trying to get him to solve the game so I don't have to bother too much.
I had a good night of sleep.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 07 2014 18:28 GMT
#425
On July 08 2014 03:25 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:22 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:14 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.

Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus.


Order was the game I was talking about I don't think there was another game?

Oh, it wasn't you. Anyway, I really don't like being called scum incorrectly. Any focus towards me is bad for town because that means we are focusing on a towny instead of focusing on scum



Yeah you say stuff like that a lot in the games I've played with you as both alignments.

In the one game I played when you were mafia though (Order) you were a lot more upset when someone called you mafia early. Not in the sense that you were being a dick, but in the sense that you were genuinely upset/angry/nervous or something. I don't think you are posting differently from then because "don't be a dick" is in the rules this game.

So am I town or am I mafia. You're really not being clear about what you're trying to say.

(The correct answer is "I think you're town", so that you can get post-game props for being right)


On July 04 2014 09:07 Palmar wrote:
There may be more than 2 factions in the game.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 18:29 GMT
#426
On July 08 2014 03:28 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:25 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:22 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:14 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.

Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus.


Order was the game I was talking about I don't think there was another game?

Oh, it wasn't you. Anyway, I really don't like being called scum incorrectly. Any focus towards me is bad for town because that means we are focusing on a towny instead of focusing on scum



Yeah you say stuff like that a lot in the games I've played with you as both alignments.

In the one game I played when you were mafia though (Order) you were a lot more upset when someone called you mafia early. Not in the sense that you were being a dick, but in the sense that you were genuinely upset/angry/nervous or something. I don't think you are posting differently from then because "don't be a dick" is in the rules this game.

So am I town or am I mafia. You're really not being clear about what you're trying to say.

(The correct answer is "I think you're town", so that you can get post-game props for being right)


Show nested quote +
On July 04 2014 09:07 Palmar wrote:
There may be more than 2 factions in the game.

That doesn't answer my question, unless you're implying that I'm 3rd party, which would be an asinine assumption to make at this point in the game -- unless, of course, you have some justification for why you think that.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2014 18:30 GMT
#427
On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.

Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.

Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.

Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.

Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).

Does this make me town?

On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted.


It doesn't necessarily make you town and it doesn't make you scum at this point. However your post screams hey guys i'm a townie look i'm being helpful, which is cool it just brings heat down on you and makes you look like you are trying to be seen as town.

Toad seems to be playing semi-aggressive I don't know if that can be said he isn't scum hunting however at the moment anyway.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 07 2014 18:30 GMT
#428
On July 08 2014 03:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:28 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:25 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:22 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:14 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.

Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus.


Order was the game I was talking about I don't think there was another game?

Oh, it wasn't you. Anyway, I really don't like being called scum incorrectly. Any focus towards me is bad for town because that means we are focusing on a towny instead of focusing on scum



Yeah you say stuff like that a lot in the games I've played with you as both alignments.

In the one game I played when you were mafia though (Order) you were a lot more upset when someone called you mafia early. Not in the sense that you were being a dick, but in the sense that you were genuinely upset/angry/nervous or something. I don't think you are posting differently from then because "don't be a dick" is in the rules this game.

So am I town or am I mafia. You're really not being clear about what you're trying to say.

(The correct answer is "I think you're town", so that you can get post-game props for being right)


On July 04 2014 09:07 Palmar wrote:
There may be more than 2 factions in the game.

That doesn't answer my question, unless you're implying that I'm 3rd party, which would be an asinine assumption to make at this point in the game -- unless, of course, you have some justification for why you think that.


You weren't asking a question.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 18:31 GMT
#429
On July 08 2014 03:15 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.

Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.

Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.

Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.

Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).

Does this make me town?

On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted.

the point is that you're talking about a bunch of things that might or might not be something. I disagree with pretty much everything but that's not the point here.

You yourself are taking back EVERYTHING you said in your own post like you're scared to commit to something.
*Here's a thing about toad I got but I am totally not sure about it... probably not a thing... don't mind me"
I get that you can't be sure right now, I'm not sure about everything I say either and in fact Robik made a fuzz about that as well but you're doing that not with a couple things but with every single thing you said in that post.

Why are you so afraid of how people perceive you that you aren't even ballsy enough to have a single straight forward line in your post that you DON'T take back in the next line?

What the fuck? I didn't take back anything I said.
You need to understand that this game is not static. It is an ecolving game and I'm not going to say "I'm 100% voting for XXX today". That's just terrible town play.

Would you think I am town if I only talked about one person and simply voted for them without reading any other posts besides my target's?

Let's analyze what I wrote about you:

-I think your vote on Prp is scummy
-I think your whole "town is sitting on their ass and I'm the only one trying" is scummy

At this point, I could think "Wow, Toad looks really scummy to me" However, I also want to avoid being bias and tunneled, which is not good for town if I just sit here and tunnel you to death because that would take away from the actual scumhunting. So, I think some more and realize:

-Some of my suspicion on Toad is due to the fact that I am disagreeing with him on opinions (such as the opinion of TL Mafia)

So now, my first reason for thinking you are suspicious is a little diluted because of the potential flaws in my logic. It does not mean that I think you are town, not anywhere close.

In the end, I need to find who I think is the most likely to flip scum. Being definitive yet allowing the game to still happen and perhaps change my opinion is the approach that I am taking.

Quoting me and putting my words in red does not make me scum. Try harder please.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 18:33 GMT
#430
On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.

What the hell Iamp? The 4-5 posts in my filter have 30 times as much content and purpose as his entire filter.
If all I did was post meme's, one-liners, and rage posts whenever someone called me scum, would you REALLY count that as activity?
Grubby's #1 Fan
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 07 2014 18:35 GMT
#431
So my internet just went kaput and gotta figure out how to fix it. Will catch up and post after i do.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 18:35 GMT
#432
On July 08 2014 03:25 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:22 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:14 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.

Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus.


Order was the game I was talking about I don't think there was another game?

Oh, it wasn't you. Anyway, I really don't like being called scum incorrectly. Any focus towards me is bad for town because that means we are focusing on a towny instead of focusing on scum



Yeah you say stuff like that a lot in the games I've played with you as both alignments.

In the one game I played when you were mafia though (Order) you were a lot more upset when someone called you mafia early. Not in the sense that you were being a dick, but in the sense that you were genuinely upset/angry/nervous or something. I don't think you are posting differently from then because "don't be a dick" is in the rules this game.

So am I town or am I mafia. You're really not being clear about what you're trying to say.

(The correct answer is "I think you're town", so that you can get post-game props for being right)



On July 08 2014 03:30 batsnacks wrote:
You weren't asking a question.


I missed a question mark...

So am I town or am I mafia?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 07 2014 18:39 GMT
#433
On July 08 2014 03:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:25 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:22 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:14 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.

Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus.


Order was the game I was talking about I don't think there was another game?

Oh, it wasn't you. Anyway, I really don't like being called scum incorrectly. Any focus towards me is bad for town because that means we are focusing on a towny instead of focusing on scum



Yeah you say stuff like that a lot in the games I've played with you as both alignments.

In the one game I played when you were mafia though (Order) you were a lot more upset when someone called you mafia early. Not in the sense that you were being a dick, but in the sense that you were genuinely upset/angry/nervous or something. I don't think you are posting differently from then because "don't be a dick" is in the rules this game.

So am I town or am I mafia. You're really not being clear about what you're trying to say.

(The correct answer is "I think you're town", so that you can get post-game props for being right)



Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:30 batsnacks wrote:
You weren't asking a question.


I missed a question mark...

Show nested quote +
So am I town or am I mafia?


I don't know. You're posting differently from last game you played as mafia whatever you are.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 07 2014 18:40 GMT
#434
I think I did this in an earlier game, stating that I have a townread on prplhz for the exact same reason. It ended up disrupting town discussion for most of D1. I should probably stop doing this. Anyway I know I'm shitty at reading anything prplhz does so to make it simple for myself I just won´t vote for him without a VERY good reason.

On Toades, I don´t know. It´s OMGUS for voting me and the opposite for (nearly) dropping the case a few hours later. Him pushing for me makes it hard for me to be objective about his play. Others seem to think it makes him slightly townie, whatever.

Koshi, I still think he´s scummy, even more than the usual OMGUS for pushing me. His case on me felt like he waited to hitch on to Toades case, adding his own complex reasonings to explain why scum would do what I did, basically WIFOM. He also accused me of calling Toades scum, which I´m fairly sure I never did. I´m leaving my vote on Koshi.

Toades, did you have any questions for me?
:3
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 18:44 GMT
#435
Forumite, I know I am not Toad but I hope you will answer me anyways

You said this a bit earlier:

On July 07 2014 23:55 Forumite wrote:
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On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all.
k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.

On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment
What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.

On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here.
Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.

about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else.
He´s actively creating more useless posts beside his own by making others go along with his games and riddles.


Do you still feel like this is true and do you feel that Koshi's posts have been the most useless so far? (Because I have a different opinion as stated earlier).
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 07 2014 18:44 GMT
#436
On July 08 2014 03:40 Forumite wrote:
I think I did this in an earlier game, stating that I have a townread on prplhz for the exact same reason. It ended up disrupting town discussion for most of D1. I should probably stop doing this. Anyway I know I'm shitty at reading anything prplhz does so to make it simple for myself I just won´t vote for him without a VERY good reason.

On Toades, I don´t know. It´s OMGUS for voting me and the opposite for (nearly) dropping the case a few hours later. Him pushing for me makes it hard for me to be objective about his play. Others seem to think it makes him slightly townie, whatever.

Koshi, I still think he´s scummy, even more than the usual OMGUS for pushing me. His case on me felt like he waited to hitch on to Toades case, adding his own complex reasonings to explain why scum would do what I did, basically WIFOM. He also accused me of calling Toades scum, which I´m fairly sure I never did. I´m leaving my vote on Koshi.

Toades, did you have any questions for me?


On July 08 2014 00:06 Toadesstern wrote:
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On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi


What kind of reaction did you expect from me and why did you put this in there?

1) You tell me prplhz is like 99% confirmed town to you based on a metaread that I apparently either don't agree with or haven't picked up on yet
2) You state that you have a 99% confirmed town read on him and tell me about it
3) You are not able to or do not wish to explain said read on prplhz and thus leave it as it is

So what's the point here? Do you actually want me to just go "oooh... right... I haven't got a read on you but if you say prplhz is 99% town without telling me why I'll just drop that and trust you"? If that's not the thing you want to achieve with that oneliner, why else mind putting it there? Doesn't seem like prplhz is getting all that much votes right now while at the same time Vivax apparently is going nuts about me.

Why don't [didn't] you just outline this a bit more and actually try to convince me that I'm wrong on prplhz? If you're town it's certainly not in your best interest to have townies trying to lynch other townies and you SHOULD try to do something about it, don't you think?
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On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all.
k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.

On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment
What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.

On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here.
Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.

ehehe


the green part is what I'd like to hear more about
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
July 07 2014 18:45 GMT
#437
On July 08 2014 03:33 Corazon wrote:
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On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.

What the hell Iamp? The 4-5 posts in my filter have 30 times as much content and purpose as his entire filter.
If all I did was post meme's, one-liners, and rage posts whenever someone called me scum, would you REALLY count that as activity?

i was just talking about that 1 post the part about toad bothers me the most as i think a townie would be more likely to post nothing at all instead saying in a long convoluted way that they don't know.

Crying about other people shit posting doesn't really help your position.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 18:48 GMT
#438
On July 08 2014 03:45 iamperfection wrote:
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On July 08 2014 03:33 Corazon wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.

What the hell Iamp? The 4-5 posts in my filter have 30 times as much content and purpose as his entire filter.
If all I did was post memes, one-liners, and rage posts whenever someone called me scum, would you REALLY count that as activity?

i was just talking about that 1 post the part about toad bothers me the most as i think a townie would be more likely to post nothing at all instead saying in a long convoluted way that they don't know.

Crying about other people shit posting doesn't really help your position.

Do I even have a position? No one (besides Koshi) has commented on any of my reads so far. I'd love to have a position but you're not helping me out here

There's Toad but he doesn't have an actual reason to vote for me so I don't really count him.
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 18:51 GMT
#439
On July 08 2014 03:40 Forumite wrote:
I think I did this in an earlier game, stating that I have a townread on prplhz for the exact same reason. It ended up disrupting town discussion for most of D1. I should probably stop doing this. Anyway I know I'm shitty at reading anything prplhz does so to make it simple for myself I just won´t vote for him without a VERY good reason.

On Toades, I don´t know. It´s OMGUS for voting me and the opposite for (nearly) dropping the case a few hours later. Him pushing for me makes it hard for me to be objective about his play. Others seem to think it makes him slightly townie, whatever.

Koshi, I still think he´s scummy, even more than the usual OMGUS for pushing me. His case on me felt like he waited to hitch on to Toades case, adding his own complex reasonings to explain why scum would do what I did, basically WIFOM. He also accused me of calling Toades scum, which I´m fairly sure I never did. I´m leaving my vote on Koshi.

Toades, did you have any questions for me?

This reads really towny and genuine to me
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 07 2014 18:52 GMT
#440
On July 08 2014 03:48 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:45 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:33 Corazon wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.

What the hell Iamp? The 4-5 posts in my filter have 30 times as much content and purpose as his entire filter.
If all I did was post memes, one-liners, and rage posts whenever someone called me scum, would you REALLY count that as activity?

i was just talking about that 1 post the part about toad bothers me the most as i think a townie would be more likely to post nothing at all instead saying in a long convoluted way that they don't know.

Crying about other people shit posting doesn't really help your position.

Do I even have a position? No one (besides Koshi) has commented on any of my reads so far. I'd love to have a position but you're not helping me out here

There's Toad but he doesn't have an actual reason to vote for me so I don't really count him.


You were certainly backpaddeling a lot in that post. I never said you ACTUALLY went ahead and boldy claimed that you're taking back what you said, but your phrasing made it unconsciously so that it's happening. That is actually a very strong mafia trait. Mafia doesn't want to be held responsible for mislynches.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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