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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 18:08 GMT
#401
On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.

Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.

Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.

Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.

Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).

Does this make me town?

On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted.
Grubby's #1 Fan
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 07 2014 18:09 GMT
#402
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 07 2014 18:10 GMT
#403
On July 08 2014 03:08 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:04 layabout wrote:
you know when you wake up and just cant face the day?

shit spins and you can think or walk straight

that's how i feel right now


Awwwww <3

Stop drinking so much.

*Hugs layabout*

That's not a hangover.
That's love!


Meh.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 18:10 GMT
#404
Did you read the damn rules batsnacks?

Also, Banks expressed super duper excitement to play this game -- his absence thus far is unnerving
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 07 2014 18:10 GMT
#405
On July 08 2014 03:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Did you read the damn rules batsnacks?

Also, Banks expressed super duper excitement to play this game -- his absence thus far is unnerving


Did I break a rule? Sorry I just got here.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 18:11 GMT
#406
On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.

Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 18:12 GMT
#407
On July 04 2014 09:07 Palmar wrote:

Palmar specific rules


[list]
[*] 1. Don't be a dick.

[*] 2. I will modkill you if you're a dick. Modkilling is completely at my discretion so don't try to skirt the rules, or get out on technicalities. If you're not sure you can do something, ask me before you do.

Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 07 2014 18:12 GMT
#408
On July 08 2014 03:02 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:01 Koshi wrote:
Robik, I also tend to spam a lot "Guys, I am totes town" as town and I am upset when people don't see me as town when I am totes being honest but in reality spamming that you are town when people raise legit arguments around you works against you.

Also remember how I a dick towards you in some game because you were a dick and I like to keep people honest? This game has other rules so let's be like really really friendly because we can.

It is so blatantly obvious that I'm monitoring my own posts to make sure that I don't go off on someone.

As for people seeing me as town, well it is obvious, so people saying otherwise are 1) not genuine 2) bad at this game

You say all that but things like: "I am voting Kush because of the mafia meta case I posted on him" are sitting wrong with me. Because we both played in another game recently in which Kush flipped town and he did the exact same thing. You were being an ass to him about it back then I think? I don't even remember. But I think you were. And when I say "an ass" I mean scumreading him. And while you were doing that Kush actually voted for tehpoofter who flipped scum.

Now somebody here even said that he wouldn't do it when he is blue. Now guess what? In that other game. hmm hmm. Only talking about flips here.

So. In this game Kush is doing the same thing tbh. Maybe a bit less spectacular. So yeah. Maybe he is totes scum and pretending to be the same. But Kush is an atypical player. So maybe he is just honest. So. Who knows?

Fact is. You are not considering all these things you see. I don't like it.

That's why I am not totally impressed with Robiktheamazingmagus.

But not scumreading you. Just hoping you are more amazing than pushing this silly plynch. And now that I have seen that you can push silly things I need to really make it known to you that you can push silly things. You lost the "benefit of the doubt". I encourage you to retake it.

I am totes a smart player sheeper. You should be offended I am not sheeping you anymore.
I had a good night of sleep.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 07 2014 18:12 GMT
#409
On July 08 2014 03:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Did you read the damn rules batsnacks?

Also, Banks expressed super duper excitement to play this game -- his absence thus far is unnerving


He's not awake yet.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
July 07 2014 18:14 GMT
#410
I am now making it official policy that is anti town to not use the name that the person signed up with. Who is banks?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 07 2014 18:14 GMT
#411
On July 08 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.

Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus.


Order was the game I was talking about I don't think there was another game?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 07 2014 18:15 GMT
#412
On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.

Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.

Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.

Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.

Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).

Does this make me town?

On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted.

the point is that you're talking about a bunch of things that might or might not be something. I disagree with pretty much everything but that's not the point here.

You yourself are taking back EVERYTHING you said in your own post like you're scared to commit to something.
*Here's a thing about toad I got but I am totally not sure about it... probably not a thing... don't mind me"
I get that you can't be sure right now, I'm not sure about everything I say either and in fact Robik made a fuzz about that as well but you're doing that not with a couple things but with every single thing you said in that post.

Why are you so afraid of how people perceive you that you aren't even ballsy enough to have a single straight forward line in your post that you DON'T take back in the next line?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 18:15 GMT
#413
On July 08 2014 03:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:01 Koshi wrote:
Robik, I also tend to spam a lot "Guys, I am totes town" as town and I am upset when people don't see me as town when I am totes being honest but in reality spamming that you are town when people raise legit arguments around you works against you.

Also remember how I a dick towards you in some game because you were a dick and I like to keep people honest? This game has other rules so let's be like really really friendly because we can.

It is so blatantly obvious that I'm monitoring my own posts to make sure that I don't go off on someone.

As for people seeing me as town, well it is obvious, so people saying otherwise are 1) not genuine 2) bad at this game

You say all that but things like: "I am voting Kush because of the mafia meta case I posted on him" are sitting wrong with me. Because we both played in another game recently in which Kush flipped town and he did the exact same thing. You were being an ass to him about it back then I think? I don't even remember. But I think you were. And when I say "an ass" I mean scumreading him. And while you were doing that Kush actually voted for tehpoofter who flipped scum.

Now somebody here even said that he wouldn't do it when he is blue. Now guess what? In that other game. hmm hmm. Only talking about flips here.

So. In this game Kush is doing the same thing tbh. Maybe a bit less spectacular. So yeah. Maybe he is totes scum and pretending to be the same. But Kush is an atypical player. So maybe he is just honest. So. Who knows?

Fact is. You are not considering all these things you see. I don't like it.

That's why I am not totally impressed with Robiktheamazingmagus.

But not scumreading you. Just hoping you are more amazing than pushing this silly plynch. And now that I have seen that you can push silly things I need to really make it known to you that you can push silly things. You lost the "benefit of the doubt". I encourage you to retake it.

I am totes a smart player sheeper. You should be offended I am not sheeping you anymore.

I'm giving my reads, but at the end of the day, I plan on sheeping iamperfection anyway.
I think that I've shown the difference between town!kush not reading pm and mafia!kush not reading pm. I didn't go ham on kush last game for not reading pm. I went hard on him for not claiming what I wanted him to claim. Once he did that and I saw how he was palying the rest of the game I actually had him as town and didn't pressure him. Obviously in Order I didn't pressure him for it cause we were both mafia.

But Plammar tried to claim the same thing in Heavyweight after reading his role PM and I hammered the shit out of him and he was mafia. So meh.l
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 07 2014 18:16 GMT
#414
On July 08 2014 03:12 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2014 09:07 Palmar wrote:

Palmar specific rules


[list]
[*] 1. Don't be a dick.

[*] 2. I will modkill you if you're a dick. Modkilling is completely at my discretion so don't try to skirt the rules, or get out on technicalities. If you're not sure you can do something, ask me before you do.



Being upset/angry about being scum read isn't the same as being a dick. I don't know I don't think you were being a dick any more than I was.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 07 2014 18:16 GMT
#415
On July 08 2014 03:14 iamperfection wrote:
I am now making it official policy that is anti town to not use the name that the person signed up with. Who is banks?


Sorry, tehpoofter.

I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 18:17 GMT
#416
On July 08 2014 03:14 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.

Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus.


Order was the game I was talking about I don't think there was another game?

Oh, it wasn't you. Anyway, I really don't like being called scum incorrectly. Any focus towards me is bad for town because that means we are focusing on a towny instead of focusing on scum

Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 07 2014 18:18 GMT
#417
On July 08 2014 03:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:12 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:01 Koshi wrote:
Robik, I also tend to spam a lot "Guys, I am totes town" as town and I am upset when people don't see me as town when I am totes being honest but in reality spamming that you are town when people raise legit arguments around you works against you.

Also remember how I a dick towards you in some game because you were a dick and I like to keep people honest? This game has other rules so let's be like really really friendly because we can.

It is so blatantly obvious that I'm monitoring my own posts to make sure that I don't go off on someone.

As for people seeing me as town, well it is obvious, so people saying otherwise are 1) not genuine 2) bad at this game

You say all that but things like: "I am voting Kush because of the mafia meta case I posted on him" are sitting wrong with me. Because we both played in another game recently in which Kush flipped town and he did the exact same thing. You were being an ass to him about it back then I think? I don't even remember. But I think you were. And when I say "an ass" I mean scumreading him. And while you were doing that Kush actually voted for tehpoofter who flipped scum.

Now somebody here even said that he wouldn't do it when he is blue. Now guess what? In that other game. hmm hmm. Only talking about flips here.

So. In this game Kush is doing the same thing tbh. Maybe a bit less spectacular. So yeah. Maybe he is totes scum and pretending to be the same. But Kush is an atypical player. So maybe he is just honest. So. Who knows?

Fact is. You are not considering all these things you see. I don't like it.

That's why I am not totally impressed with Robiktheamazingmagus.

But not scumreading you. Just hoping you are more amazing than pushing this silly plynch. And now that I have seen that you can push silly things I need to really make it known to you that you can push silly things. You lost the "benefit of the doubt". I encourage you to retake it.

I am totes a smart player sheeper. You should be offended I am not sheeping you anymore.

I'm giving my reads, but at the end of the day, I plan on sheeping iamperfection anyway.
I think that I've shown the difference between town!kush not reading pm and mafia!kush not reading pm. I didn't go ham on kush last game for not reading pm. I went hard on him for not claiming what I wanted him to claim. Once he did that and I saw how he was palying the rest of the game I actually had him as town and didn't pressure him. Obviously in Order I didn't pressure him for it cause we were both mafia.

But Plammar tried to claim the same thing in Heavyweight after reading his role PM and I hammered the shit out of him and he was mafia. So meh.l

We can co-exist.
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
July 07 2014 18:18 GMT
#418
On July 08 2014 03:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:12 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:01 Koshi wrote:
Robik, I also tend to spam a lot "Guys, I am totes town" as town and I am upset when people don't see me as town when I am totes being honest but in reality spamming that you are town when people raise legit arguments around you works against you.

Also remember how I a dick towards you in some game because you were a dick and I like to keep people honest? This game has other rules so let's be like really really friendly because we can.

It is so blatantly obvious that I'm monitoring my own posts to make sure that I don't go off on someone.

As for people seeing me as town, well it is obvious, so people saying otherwise are 1) not genuine 2) bad at this game

You say all that but things like: "I am voting Kush because of the mafia meta case I posted on him" are sitting wrong with me. Because we both played in another game recently in which Kush flipped town and he did the exact same thing. You were being an ass to him about it back then I think? I don't even remember. But I think you were. And when I say "an ass" I mean scumreading him. And while you were doing that Kush actually voted for tehpoofter who flipped scum.

Now somebody here even said that he wouldn't do it when he is blue. Now guess what? In that other game. hmm hmm. Only talking about flips here.

So. In this game Kush is doing the same thing tbh. Maybe a bit less spectacular. So yeah. Maybe he is totes scum and pretending to be the same. But Kush is an atypical player. So maybe he is just honest. So. Who knows?

Fact is. You are not considering all these things you see. I don't like it.

That's why I am not totally impressed with Robiktheamazingmagus.

But not scumreading you. Just hoping you are more amazing than pushing this silly plynch. And now that I have seen that you can push silly things I need to really make it known to you that you can push silly things. You lost the "benefit of the doubt". I encourage you to retake it.

I am totes a smart player sheeper. You should be offended I am not sheeping you anymore.

I'm giving my reads, but at the end of the day, I plan on sheeping iamperfection anyway.
I think that I've shown the difference between town!kush not reading pm and mafia!kush not reading pm. I didn't go ham on kush last game for not reading pm. I went hard on him for not claiming what I wanted him to claim. Once he did that and I saw how he was palying the rest of the game I actually had him as town and didn't pressure him. Obviously in Order I didn't pressure him for it cause we were both mafia.

But Plammar tried to claim the same thing in Heavyweight after reading his role PM and I hammered the shit out of him and he was mafia. So meh.l

Really didn't know you operated that way.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
July 07 2014 18:20 GMT
#419
I agree with toad by the way that was a scummy post corazon
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 07 2014 18:22 GMT
#420
On July 08 2014 03:17 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:14 batsnacks wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now.

Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus.


Order was the game I was talking about I don't think there was another game?

Oh, it wasn't you. Anyway, I really don't like being called scum incorrectly. Any focus towards me is bad for town because that means we are focusing on a towny instead of focusing on scum



Yeah you say stuff like that a lot in the games I've played with you as both alignments.

In the one game I played when you were mafia though (Order) you were a lot more upset when someone called you mafia early. Not in the sense that you were being a dick, but in the sense that you were genuinely upset/angry/nervous or something. I don't think you are posting differently from then because "don't be a dick" is in the rules this game.
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