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On July 14 2014 13:21 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 13:16 slOosh wrote:
Oh ... well ok ... I'm just gonna ignore it then I guess ...
HaruRH and HiroPro also look poor for being absent for the discussion. Could honestly have been busy during the time and unable to post their thoughts on it, but looks bad.
These cats need to step it up cause we gonna lynch one of them oooOOoOoOohhhHhHhH!!! Layabout is hellbent on getting me lynched and I claimed VT to make sure I'm not getting tracked by BM as I think it would have been a possibly check for him considering that I wanted him lynched if it interests you.
Ehh I'm really fine with layabout since I felt like he was the only one who approached the BM kush issue in a good way.
I can see his suspicion on you, and it is valid as you were quite reluctant which could be seen as a form of soft defense. Same goes for VE.
I'll have to revisit that, but I could see town motivations for hesitations so yea. Could you give me your thoughts on how VE approached it?
Saying something like "check me" is whatever. It's alignment null to me. Blue role could say it, scum could say it, VT could say it, it's like null. BM should do what he wants, he caught kush, so good on him and I'm sure he will make a good choice.
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Oh yea, so I really like layabout too.
Protective role dude should consider protecting layabout. Maybe like flip a coin to see who to protect VE or layabout. That should deter scum from shooting into them since they REALLY can't afford wasted KP at this point.
But meh, do what you think is best.
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On July 14 2014 13:31 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 13:21 Toadesstern wrote:On July 14 2014 13:16 slOosh wrote:
Oh ... well ok ... I'm just gonna ignore it then I guess ...
HaruRH and HiroPro also look poor for being absent for the discussion. Could honestly have been busy during the time and unable to post their thoughts on it, but looks bad.
These cats need to step it up cause we gonna lynch one of them oooOOoOoOohhhHhHhH!!! Layabout is hellbent on getting me lynched and I claimed VT to make sure I'm not getting tracked by BM as I think it would have been a possibly check for him considering that I wanted him lynched if it interests you. Ehh I'm really fine with layabout since I felt like he was the only one who approached the BM kush issue in a good way. I can see his suspicion on you, and it is valid as you were quite reluctant which could be seen as a form of soft defense. Same goes for VE. I'll have to revisit that, but I could see town motivations for hesitations so yea. Could you give me your thoughts on how VE approached it? Saying something like "check me" is whatever. It's alignment null to me. Blue role could say it, scum could say it, VT could say it, it's like null. BM should do what he wants, he caught kush, so good on him and I'm sure he will make a good choice.
his approach was the same I had, he thought BM scumslipped and thus wasn't sure wether BM is telling the truth or not.
If anything I didn't like his claim out of nowhere because neither did it achieve anything nor was there any reason to claim for him.
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Yea that claim seemed totally unnecessary. And stuff like this
On July 14 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
So what about Damdred? Can we lynch that guy? See what happens with the watcher/trackers? prplhz wanted to kill Damdred mostest of all.
Makes me raise some eyebrows. EYEBROWS VE, BOTH OF THEM. Actually just one, to indicate suspicion, rather than two to indicate surprise. One eyebrow firmly raised.
Hrmm ... medic consider protecting layabout / BM combo instead. Hmm ...
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But right now I wanna kill ritoky most.
Lurkmoar + awkward interpretation of BM / kush. Anyone strongly prefer a different lynch?
HiroPro you still wanna kill Damdred more?
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On July 14 2014 13:43 slOosh wrote:Yea that claim seemed totally unnecessary. And stuff like this Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
So what about Damdred? Can we lynch that guy? See what happens with the watcher/trackers? prplhz wanted to kill Damdred mostest of all. Makes me raise some eyebrows. EYEBROWS VE, BOTH OF THEM. Actually just one, to indicate suspicion, rather than two to indicate surprise. One eyebrow firmly raised. Hrmm ... medic consider protecting layabout / BM combo instead. Hmm ...
read:+ Show Spoiler +On July 14 2014 09:49 Toadesstern wrote:
nice one. Do we let VE watch BM to make sure he won't die and send our potential medics on layabout? The guy got roleblocked last night so he's town for sure as well.
The other way around is a bit tricky because I'm no medic and I don't know if we have some to begin with, but VE claimed watcher. But mafia still has to be afraid to be shooting into laya because we might have some. On July 14 2014 10:09 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 10:00 Bill Murray wrote:
If we have a Watcher on me, Maf will have to sacrifice one to kill me
Do you think they will do that?
What if there is a Doctor on me as well? That would be a total fail
I doubt they will risk it that's why I said I want the watcher on you. If we have the watcher on you we get a 1v1 trade if they want to take it and I'm fine with that (sorry) because noone would be stupid enough to medicprotect you when we say we want a watcher on you and medics on other people like laya... The other way around we'd have the trouble of stacking watcher and any potential medics because we can't be sure we have a medic and VE might go "fuck it, I'll watch BM nontheless"Noone would be that stupid as a medic. Chances are always VE lied and isn't a watcher but we'd get him that way too with the RB already flipped.
Watcher on BM, medics on everything else. We don't want them overlapping in the case of BM actually getting shot.
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On July 14 2014 13:43 slOosh wrote:Yea that claim seemed totally unnecessary. And stuff like this Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
So what about Damdred? Can we lynch that guy? See what happens with the watcher/trackers? prplhz wanted to kill Damdred mostest of all. Makes me raise some eyebrows. EYEBROWS VE, BOTH OF THEM. Actually just one, to indicate suspicion, rather than two to indicate surprise. One eyebrow firmly raised. Hrmm ... medic consider protecting layabout / BM combo instead. Hmm ...
I will make no excuses for my suspicion of BM. I'll say however that for all of my talk of switching the wagons, I never changed my vote. Take that for what it's worth, but I like to think that I'd take more of an active approach to saving our roleblocker if I were mafia.
Do you disagree with pushing Damdred now? prplhz seemed to be lockScum on Damdred. Toward the end there might have been a bit of confirmation bias, but his push seemed reasonable enough and he died the next night.
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On July 14 2014 13:48 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 13:43 slOosh wrote:Yea that claim seemed totally unnecessary. And stuff like this On July 14 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
So what about Damdred? Can we lynch that guy? See what happens with the watcher/trackers? prplhz wanted to kill Damdred mostest of all. Makes me raise some eyebrows. EYEBROWS VE, BOTH OF THEM. Actually just one, to indicate suspicion, rather than two to indicate surprise. One eyebrow firmly raised. Hrmm ... medic consider protecting layabout / BM combo instead. Hmm ... read: + Show Spoiler +On July 14 2014 09:49 Toadesstern wrote:
nice one. Do we let VE watch BM to make sure he won't die and send our potential medics on layabout? The guy got roleblocked last night so he's town for sure as well.
The other way around is a bit tricky because I'm no medic and I don't know if we have some to begin with, but VE claimed watcher. But mafia still has to be afraid to be shooting into laya because we might have some. On July 14 2014 10:09 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 10:00 Bill Murray wrote:
If we have a Watcher on me, Maf will have to sacrifice one to kill me
Do you think they will do that?
What if there is a Doctor on me as well? That would be a total fail
I doubt they will risk it that's why I said I want the watcher on you. If we have the watcher on you we get a 1v1 trade if they want to take it and I'm fine with that (sorry) because noone would be stupid enough to medicprotect you when we say we want a watcher on you and medics on other people like laya... The other way around we'd have the trouble of stacking watcher and any potential medics because we can't be sure we have a medic and VE might go "fuck it, I'll watch BM nontheless"Noone would be that stupid as a medic. Chances are always VE lied and isn't a watcher but we'd get him that way too with the RB already flipped. Watcher on BM, medics on everything else. We don't want them overlapping in the case of BM actually getting shot.
Oh, I was thinking things would fall apart if VE was scum or something but then I thought about it a bit more and yea you are right.
On July 14 2014 14:04 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 13:43 slOosh wrote:Yea that claim seemed totally unnecessary. And stuff like this On July 14 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
So what about Damdred? Can we lynch that guy? See what happens with the watcher/trackers? prplhz wanted to kill Damdred mostest of all. Makes me raise some eyebrows. EYEBROWS VE, BOTH OF THEM. Actually just one, to indicate suspicion, rather than two to indicate surprise. One eyebrow firmly raised. Hrmm ... medic consider protecting layabout / BM combo instead. Hmm ... I will make no excuses for my suspicion of BM. I'll say however that for all of my talk of switching the wagons, I never changed my vote. Take that for what it's worth, but I like to think that I'd take more of an active approach to saving our roleblocker if I were mafia. Do you disagree with pushing Damdred now? prplhz seemed to be lockScum on Damdred. Toward the end there might have been a bit of confirmation bias, but his push seemed reasonable enough and he died the next night.
Ehh I still feel iffy on Damdred, perhaps because I'm being too lenient with his coming from another site and all. How do you read his posts that I coaxed out of him last night?
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Also maybe by suspicions of HiroPro may be playing into that read, I'm not too sure.
Remember when the dude made 1 post in like a 60 hour D1 or whatever? Super sketch.
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On July 13 2014 05:01 Damdred wrote:Sure Ritoky and batsnacks are two people I feel like are a bit scummy, and to be honest i'm leaning towards hiro however I am biased because hes been riding me so hard in most of his posts.
This post in particular stands out as pretty townie. In particular the bolded part - in general mafia don't tend to post like this. The hangup I have is that he brings up batsnacks as a suspicious person here right? But earlier he saidOn July 12 2014 12:57 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 11:32 batsnacks wrote:Damn it Damdred On July 12 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:
Could I ask you guys to wait another 4 hours before you hammer mderg? I won't be home for work until then. I think there's a lot of good info especially in the last 5 pages and I would appreciate the opportunity to comment on it.
But I'll understand if no one wants to wait for me. You just almost got me killed I really didn't mean to almost get you killed to be honest, and I thought it had been around 4 hours so thats my bad and i'm glad you didn't die. Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 12:27 HiroPro wrote:I'm going to spell this out very simply. Damdred is literally posting only to survive. He doesn't give two shits about what is going on in this thread right now. He has not posted a single good post about anyone. He hasn't had a single mafia read that I can see other than mderg. Even that read appears highly convenient and came only came when the wagon was well underway (7th vote on), prime position for your average uninvolved mafia player. The post in which he votes is complete garbage: On July 11 2014 23:28 Damdred wrote:
To me Exo showed that he was pretty town with the vote on obi and his flip doesn't make any sense for a mafia at that point to help a movement on such a good role when it could of really gained momentum at that point.
<b>##Vote: Mderg</b> It has been over 24 hours since we've seen BM and his fake roleblock claim. Despite being in the thread on multiple occasions and seemingly caught up, he has said absolutely nothing about what he thinks on the situation. Letting him live at this point is a travesty. He should be kill priority #1 (yes even above BM). I'll be honest with you I have played pretty badly to this point and day one made me look pretty scummy just by looking at the filter and if it hadn't of been for that day I probably wouldn't be so high on your list right now which is unfortunate. However I have no important role. And I do want to help town win.
And when you ask him to explain his reads he never mentions batty. So I don't know if he just wasn't as suspicious of bat or if he was just throwing out names that he'd heard. Either way, that you have to COAX him into posting is troublesome, especially since when he DOES post he's capable of stringing more than a few words together.
All and all I think he at the very least makes a decent lynch candidate tomorrow.
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The bolded part should have been "however I may be biased" bit in the first post of Dam's.
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On July 14 2014 13:46 slOosh wrote:
But right now I wanna kill ritoky most.
Lurkmoar + awkward interpretation of BM / kush. Anyone strongly prefer a different lynch?
HiroPro you still wanna kill Damdred more?
Do you even need to ask?
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On July 13 2014 05:50 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky: He has generally lurked through the game giving roughly two pages of filter to analyze. In this filter he has a lot of fluff showing little in the way of helping the town or having almost any agenda, The only agenda that I see in his posts is to disqualify yamato as town which is odd to me. Yamato is one of the people in this game I have read as town and Rit spends a good portion of his content posts talking about how he isn't. He also misses every lynch vote even though he says he would of voted for yamato. It was theorized earlier in the thread that mafia was part of the people who didn't take part in the Iamp lynch, Ritoky to me fits the bill of being an aloof mafia.
Hiro: He was absent day one and sheeped a good argument wrote about me and has rode me ever since (i'm biased towards him don't have a good case)
I'm actually going to take bat back after rereading his filter he doesn't have many content posts but he does bring some good thoughts to the table. So i'll just go back to reading filters
He mentions it in his next post when I ask him to explain.
Sure it's annoying that you have to go to him to get thoughts out, but by your word, the posts he has made are reasonable and good (I'm assuming this is what you mean by "capable of stringing more than a few words".
If the worst mark against him is that he is quiet, then I don't see how he is a good lynch candidate.
Am I being too nice and holding hands since it's his first game here? Maybe. But I don't think I'm being too biased when I say his thoughts, particularly that last string, look decent?
On that mark, how do you read HiroPro?
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On July 14 2014 16:19 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 13:46 slOosh wrote:
But right now I wanna kill ritoky most.
Lurkmoar + awkward interpretation of BM / kush. Anyone strongly prefer a different lynch?
HiroPro you still wanna kill Damdred more? Do you even need to ask?
Hiro, dude, I don't think I'm being to hard when I say I don't think you've really contributed anything to town so far.
Do you have any new insights or wanna go over some of his new posts or I dunno, do anything other than tunnel Damdred this game? Like, even if you think he is scum, you can still talk about other stuff you know that right?
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I have no idea what batsnacks is doing.
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On July 14 2014 16:25 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 16:19 HiroPro wrote:On July 14 2014 13:46 slOosh wrote:
But right now I wanna kill ritoky most.
Lurkmoar + awkward interpretation of BM / kush. Anyone strongly prefer a different lynch?
HiroPro you still wanna kill Damdred more? Do you even need to ask? Hiro, dude, I don't think I'm being to hard when I say I don't think you've really contributed anything to town so far. Do you have any new insights or wanna go over some of his new posts or I dunno, do anything other than tunnel Damdred this game? Like, even if you think he is scum, you can still talk about other stuff you know that right?
sloosh I'll be frank with you. I believe that most of the stuff you've been posting about this game is garbage. Unless you stop nitpicking and blindly copying stuff from whatever guide you're reading, I think it's very unlikely that the two of us will be able to have a civil conversation.
Now if you want to know how the recent events have influenced my read on Damdred, I'll be happy to inform you that kushm4sta's death has done nothing to make me think that Damdred is town, especially considering kush's strange reasoning behind calling him town.
I also think that ritoky is more likely to be town based on what I've previously said. Bringing up strange/bizarre scenarios on the roles behind the BM/kush situation isn't much reason to suspect him, especially when it fits in with the way he seemed to be uncertain about the janitor mechanics.
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BM finally delivered!
Ritoky, if you want to do vote analysis then add in crossed over votes from those who changed their minds. It would be an additional bonus to add in FoS from the thread but that´s much more work to do.
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