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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 13 2014 16:49 GMT
#2521
On July 13 2014 20:15 Bill Murray wrote:
Kush killed Sinani last night... well, it IS kush, so I'm not counting it out that he had a role like Sinani's... but he's likely scum because he didn't really no visit... he was on Sinani, layabout... so layabout if you want to come forward and say whether or not this happened that would be very helpful right now....

On July 13 2014 20:17 Bill Murray wrote:
I honestly expect Layabout was Rolecopped and Sinani killed.
Basically, if I'm not here, or if I die tonight and you all don't listen to me
lynch kush

Yea that's what he is saying, kush visited both sinani and layabout.

I really like the phrasing of these posts.

Scum when fake claiming make sure everything is clinical and worked out. This is messy, but it's consistent.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 13 2014 16:52 GMT
#2522
On July 14 2014 01:48 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 01:45 slOosh wrote:
Yea that seems like it is it.

I have no reason to doubt BM.

##Vote: kushm4sta


We have every reason to doubt BM there could possibly be... the question is wether he's telling the truth despite that lol

I see your point. What I mean by that is "I believe BM's claim and do not doubt his motives".
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 13 2014 16:53 GMT
#2523
On July 14 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote:
I know people are up in arms about his lying about roleblock, but everything else looks really consistent.

At worst scum BM is offering a one for one on kush?

Most likely BM is town tracker who caught scum.

nothing is consistent.
  • He never mentioned Sinani EVER on d1 or n1.. The guy he tracked on n1 and picked him as a tracktarget to allegedly figure out mafia instead of a guy who scumslipped (forumite) according to his own posts
  • He lied about being RB'ed without kwowing that there are no notifications. The lie wasn't planned. Why would a townie lie about that without having some convoluted plan about it?
  • He (apparently?) got back 2 targets on n2 but only got back 1 target on n1? But that whole thing is sketch as fuck to begin with because Sinani said he targeted robik if I recall correctly and knowone knows what happened there.
  • He has completly refused to answer any of the questions like why he picked sinani, why he lied about being RB'ed and as already pointed out it's quite easy to prove that he didn't have a reason to do it


Did I forget anything?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 13 2014 16:55 GMT
#2524
Maybe robiks role interfered with the n1 results?
Writer@WriterYamato
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 13 2014 16:56 GMT
#2525
Toad what do you think of the idea that BM is a town tracker and tracked Kush doing maifa things last night and kush was calling BM scum to try to get 1 last mislynch?
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 13 2014 16:58 GMT
#2526
On July 14 2014 01:56 layabout wrote:
Toad what do you think of the idea that BM is a town tracker and tracked Kush doing maifa things last night and kush was calling BM scum to try to get 1 last mislynch?

certainly possible
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 13 2014 16:58 GMT
#2527
Sure. I agree that those are truths, but to me they don't necessarily indicate scum. What I care about more is his N2 action claim, how he did it, and kush's response.

BM tracked kush, and found him visiting two people, layabout and sinani.

Sinani died. What role allows you to visit two people? I dunno, but scum factional KP does that.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 13 2014 17:02 GMT
#2528
On July 14 2014 01:58 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 01:56 layabout wrote:
Toad what do you think of the idea that BM is a town tracker and tracked Kush doing maifa things last night and kush was calling BM scum to try to get 1 last mislynch?

certainly possible

how possible?
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 13 2014 17:03 GMT
#2529
On July 14 2014 01:58 slOosh wrote:
Sure. I agree that those are truths, but to me they don't necessarily indicate scum. What I care about more is his N2 action claim, how he did it, and kush's response.

BM tracked kush, and found him visiting two people, layabout and sinani.

Sinani died. What role allows you to visit two people? I dunno, but scum factional KP does that.

that's exactly what I'm saying...
On July 14 2014 00:45 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 00:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
[...]
If this was anyone else who said Kush visited sinani I'd instalynch Kush but it's BM who said it.
[...]

Either the guy straight up found mafia because it's scumKP + something else scummy like RB on someone else or whatever else like I already pointed out as well OR
BM isn't town.

Those are the two options here...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 13 2014 17:04 GMT
#2530
On July 14 2014 02:02 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 01:58 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 14 2014 01:56 layabout wrote:
Toad what do you think of the idea that BM is a town tracker and tracked Kush doing maifa things last night and kush was calling BM scum to try to get 1 last mislynch?

certainly possible

how possible?

50/50. One of BM / Kush is mafia and the other is town.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 13 2014 17:05 GMT
#2531
then why is Kush's behaviour consistent with him being caught mafia?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 13 2014 17:06 GMT
#2532
50/50 is avoiding making a judgement
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 13 2014 17:11 GMT
#2533
On July 14 2014 02:06 layabout wrote:
50/50 is avoiding making a judgement

BM's behavior is also consistent with him being caught scumslipping. So my point is that we're not getting anywhere further than a 50/50 with this:

On July 14 2014 00:45 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 00:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because I think BM is mafia? I guess we can lynch kush, but I REALLY REALLY wanna lynch mafia today. REALLY bad.

yeah that's my issue here as well... I really think BM is mafia and his story makes no sense whatsoever.
But on the offchance of it actually being true and just not making sense because BM is lying for shitz and giggles as townie it does make Kush look really bad.

Wouldn't mind a Forumite lynch one bit to bypass that somewhat troublesome decision for today...
If this was anyone else who said Kush visited sinani I'd instalynch Kush but it's BM who said it.


On top of that we have 2 dead people with an already flipped OP-VIG from mafia and Kush supposedly visited 2 people. The visit on Layabout wasn't a kill-visit even if Kush is mafia if we take that into consideration. So it's either a mafia with another role who RB'ed Laya and carried out the nightkill on Sinani or it's something entirely different (still assuming BM isn't lying)

If BM is actually town he can go on tracking people because apparantly mafia is not afraid of him and don't RB him.
Another point in the picture not fitting: Why did it come to this to begin with? Why didn't they simply RB him or something like that... sure it could be possible that there's no RB but RB is probably the most comming mafia role in any game and yet BM claims tracker, does not get rb'ed, shot or whatever else and conveniently finds mafia the next night?

How can you claim you're so sure about this that you want kush lnched?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 13 2014 17:12 GMT
#2534
On July 14 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote:
I know people are up in arms about his lying about roleblock, but everything else looks really consistent.

At worst scum BM is offering a one for one on kush?

Most likely BM is town tracker who caught scum.

I might be willing to roll with this.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 13 2014 17:13 GMT
#2535
EBWOP* comming = common
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 13 2014 17:14 GMT
#2536
There's also a vastly less likely scenario of them both being mafia. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 13 2014 17:19 GMT
#2537
VE what do you make of toad?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 13 2014 17:22 GMT
#2538
I think he's town. So the thing about kush is this: IF he's town and there's some reasonable explanation, there's no way for us to know and we're going to lynch him anyway right? But that means that we STILL don't know if BM is town or mafia - we can assume mafia pushing a mislynch, or we can assume town because it's possible for a townie to get back the result or whatever.

I didn't really want to lynch kush before now, but I DID want to lynch BM. I just....this lynch makes me feel funny.

I need to think about things.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 13 2014 17:27 GMT
#2539
I wish I was a dayvig in this game.

Didn't lynch forumite d1 and instead went with the case from Koshi
Shot ObiWan (a guy I pushed for on d1)
Didn't lynch the one I wanted lynched the most d2 and instead went with the case from someone else
Looks like I'm not getting my forumite lynch today either. Because BM / Kush are like 90% certain 1 town and 1 mafia but no idea which way.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 13 2014 17:27 GMT
#2540
Everybody needs to look at this and fucking post
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