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On July 13 2014 20:15 Bill Murray wrote:
Kush killed Sinani last night... well, it IS kush, so I'm not counting it out that he had a role like Sinani's... but he's likely scum because he didn't really no visit... he was on Sinani, layabout... so layabout if you want to come forward and say whether or not this happened that would be very helpful right now....
On July 13 2014 20:17 Bill Murray wrote:
I honestly expect Layabout was Rolecopped and Sinani killed.
Basically, if I'm not here, or if I die tonight and you all don't listen to me
lynch kush
Yea that's what he is saying, kush visited both sinani and layabout.
I really like the phrasing of these posts.
Scum when fake claiming make sure everything is clinical and worked out. This is messy, but it's consistent.
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On July 14 2014 01:48 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 01:45 slOosh wrote:
Yea that seems like it is it.
I have no reason to doubt BM.
##Vote: kushm4sta We have every reason to doubt BM there could possibly be... the question is wether he's telling the truth despite that lol
I see your point. What I mean by that is "I believe BM's claim and do not doubt his motives".
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On July 14 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote:
I know people are up in arms about his lying about roleblock, but everything else looks really consistent.
At worst scum BM is offering a one for one on kush?
Most likely BM is town tracker who caught scum.
nothing is consistent.
- He never mentioned Sinani EVER on d1 or n1.. The guy he tracked on n1 and picked him as a tracktarget to allegedly figure out mafia instead of a guy who scumslipped (forumite) according to his own posts
- He lied about being RB'ed without kwowing that there are no notifications. The lie wasn't planned. Why would a townie lie about that without having some convoluted plan about it?
- He (apparently?) got back 2 targets on n2 but only got back 1 target on n1? But that whole thing is sketch as fuck to begin with because Sinani said he targeted robik if I recall correctly and knowone knows what happened there.
- He has completly refused to answer any of the questions like why he picked sinani, why he lied about being RB'ed and as already pointed out it's quite easy to prove that he didn't have a reason to do it
Did I forget anything?
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Maybe robiks role interfered with the n1 results?
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Toad what do you think of the idea that BM is a town tracker and tracked Kush doing maifa things last night and kush was calling BM scum to try to get 1 last mislynch?
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On July 14 2014 01:56 layabout wrote:
Toad what do you think of the idea that BM is a town tracker and tracked Kush doing maifa things last night and kush was calling BM scum to try to get 1 last mislynch?
certainly possible
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Sure. I agree that those are truths, but to me they don't necessarily indicate scum. What I care about more is his N2 action claim, how he did it, and kush's response.
BM tracked kush, and found him visiting two people, layabout and sinani.
Sinani died. What role allows you to visit two people? I dunno, but scum factional KP does that.
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On July 14 2014 01:58 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 01:56 layabout wrote:
Toad what do you think of the idea that BM is a town tracker and tracked Kush doing maifa things last night and kush was calling BM scum to try to get 1 last mislynch? certainly possible
how possible?
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On July 14 2014 01:58 slOosh wrote:
Sure. I agree that those are truths, but to me they don't necessarily indicate scum. What I care about more is his N2 action claim, how he did it, and kush's response.
BM tracked kush, and found him visiting two people, layabout and sinani.
Sinani died. What role allows you to visit two people? I dunno, but scum factional KP does that.
that's exactly what I'm saying...
On July 14 2014 00:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 00:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
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If this was anyone else who said Kush visited sinani I'd instalynch Kush but it's BM who said it.
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Either the guy straight up found mafia because it's scumKP + something else scummy like RB on someone else or whatever else like I already pointed out as well OR
BM isn't town.
Those are the two options here...
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On July 14 2014 02:02 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 01:58 Toadesstern wrote:On July 14 2014 01:56 layabout wrote:
Toad what do you think of the idea that BM is a town tracker and tracked Kush doing maifa things last night and kush was calling BM scum to try to get 1 last mislynch? certainly possible how possible?
50/50. One of BM / Kush is mafia and the other is town.
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then why is Kush's behaviour consistent with him being caught mafia?
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50/50 is avoiding making a judgement
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On July 14 2014 02:06 layabout wrote:
50/50 is avoiding making a judgement
BM's behavior is also consistent with him being caught scumslipping. So my point is that we're not getting anywhere further than a 50/50 with this:
On July 14 2014 00:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 00:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because I think BM is mafia? I guess we can lynch kush, but I REALLY REALLY wanna lynch mafia today. REALLY bad. yeah that's my issue here as well... I really think BM is mafia and his story makes no sense whatsoever. But on the offchance of it actually being true and just not making sense because BM is lying for shitz and giggles as townie it does make Kush look really bad. Wouldn't mind a Forumite lynch one bit to bypass that somewhat troublesome decision for today...
If this was anyone else who said Kush visited sinani I'd instalynch Kush but it's BM who said it.On top of that we have 2 dead people with an already flipped OP-VIG from mafia and Kush supposedly visited 2 people. The visit on Layabout wasn't a kill-visit even if Kush is mafia if we take that into consideration. So it's either a mafia with another role who RB'ed Laya and carried out the nightkill on Sinani or it's something entirely different (still assuming BM isn't lying)
If BM is actually town he can go on tracking people because apparantly mafia is not afraid of him and don't RB him.
Another point in the picture not fitting: Why did it come to this to begin with? Why didn't they simply RB him or something like that... sure it could be possible that there's no RB but RB is probably the most comming mafia role in any game and yet BM claims tracker, does not get rb'ed, shot or whatever else and conveniently finds mafia the next night?
How can you claim you're so sure about this that you want kush lnched?
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On July 14 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote:
I know people are up in arms about his lying about roleblock, but everything else looks really consistent.
At worst scum BM is offering a one for one on kush?
Most likely BM is town tracker who caught scum.
I might be willing to roll with this.
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There's also a vastly less likely scenario of them both being mafia. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
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VE what do you make of toad?
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I think he's town. So the thing about kush is this: IF he's town and there's some reasonable explanation, there's no way for us to know and we're going to lynch him anyway right? But that means that we STILL don't know if BM is town or mafia - we can assume mafia pushing a mislynch, or we can assume town because it's possible for a townie to get back the result or whatever.
I didn't really want to lynch kush before now, but I DID want to lynch BM. I just....this lynch makes me feel funny.
I need to think about things.
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I wish I was a dayvig in this game.
Didn't lynch forumite d1 and instead went with the case from Koshi
Shot ObiWan (a guy I pushed for on d1)
Didn't lynch the one I wanted lynched the most d2 and instead went with the case from someone else
Looks like I'm not getting my forumite lynch today either. Because BM / Kush are like 90% certain 1 town and 1 mafia but no idea which way.
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Everybody needs to look at this and fucking post
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