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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 17:46 GMT
#2201
On July 11 2014 23:28 Damdred wrote:
To me Exo showed that he was pretty town with the vote on obi and his flip doesn't make any sense for a mafia at that point to help a movement on such a good role when it could of really gained momentum at that point.

<b>##Vote: Mderg</b>

do you know who uses html tags? People talking in quick topics
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 11 2014 17:48 GMT
#2202
On July 12 2014 02:46 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 23:28 Damdred wrote:
To me Exo showed that he was pretty town with the vote on obi and his flip doesn't make any sense for a mafia at that point to help a movement on such a good role when it could of really gained momentum at that point.

<b>##Vote: Mderg</b>

do you know who uses html tags? People talking in quick topics


:Yea I do know how to use html tags .....sadly I was just playing around on a forum that used old html so you had to use the <> brackets and I just wasn't thinking when i posted
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 11 2014 17:50 GMT
#2203
and
##Unvote so nobody misses it
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 17:53 GMT
#2204
Seeing as this
On July 09 2014 01:44 Toadesstern wrote:

on ObiWan
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2014 01:37 Vivax wrote:
Can Cav, Robik and VE explain what about kush's post makes him instascum?


i voted him to blend in with the town.

i was really hoping nobody would call me on it shit gg.

I know it's supposed to be a joke but that kind of phrase always makes me think the person in question isn't part of town himself... I wanted to blend in WITH THE TOWN.... who the fuck says that

Was ObiWan the one VE pushed? I know he pushed mderg recently but I think someone was on ObiWan as well
worked out an awful lot better than the case on Iamp and the case on forumite has still to show wether it does bear any results:

On July 12 2014 02:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 02:46 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 11 2014 23:28 Damdred wrote:
To me Exo showed that he was pretty town with the vote on obi and his flip doesn't make any sense for a mafia at that point to help a movement on such a good role when it could of really gained momentum at that point.

<b>##Vote: Mderg</b>

do you know who uses html tags? People talking in quick topics


:Yea I do know how to use html tags .....sadly I was just playing around on a forum that used old html so you had to use the <> brackets and I just wasn't thinking when i posted


so you do feel distressed about the fact that you just used html tags?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 17:56 GMT
#2205
actually never mind that, could be interpreted in various ways.

Still don't like the html tags though.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 11 2014 17:57 GMT
#2206
On July 12 2014 02:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Seeing as this
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 01:44 Toadesstern wrote:

on ObiWan
On July 08 2014 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2014 01:37 Vivax wrote:
Can Cav, Robik and VE explain what about kush's post makes him instascum?


i voted him to blend in with the town.

i was really hoping nobody would call me on it shit gg.

I know it's supposed to be a joke but that kind of phrase always makes me think the person in question isn't part of town himself... I wanted to blend in WITH THE TOWN.... who the fuck says that

Was ObiWan the one VE pushed? I know he pushed mderg recently but I think someone was on ObiWan as well
worked out an awful lot better than the case on Iamp and the case on forumite has still to show wether it does bear any results:

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 02:48 Damdred wrote:
On July 12 2014 02:46 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 11 2014 23:28 Damdred wrote:
To me Exo showed that he was pretty town with the vote on obi and his flip doesn't make any sense for a mafia at that point to help a movement on such a good role when it could of really gained momentum at that point.

<b>##Vote: Mderg</b>

do you know who uses html tags? People talking in quick topics


:Yea I do know how to use html tags .....sadly I was just playing around on a forum that used old html so you had to use the <> brackets and I just wasn't thinking when i posted


so you do feel distressed about the fact that you just used html tags?


I'm a bit embarrassed that I used <> instead of just pressing the bold button. Guess I was not paying attention or was to distracted by goings on elsewhere
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 11 2014 17:58 GMT
#2207
On July 12 2014 02:56 Toadesstern wrote:
actually never mind that, could be interpreted in various ways.

Still don't like the html tags though.


I'm curious, What ways are there to interpret it?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 18:00 GMT
#2208
On July 11 2014 17:35 Bill Murray wrote:
I tracked Sinani to Koshi last night.


This is the first time BM mentions Sinani in his filter. No mention before that at all. Why did you track Sinani BM?
Especially considering that there's other posts like this in your filter:

On July 09 2014 14:56 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm gonna answer that. I dont like Iamperfection for his hypocrisy relating to whether or not people do anything, but I still feel like Forumite is a better lynch, because of his flailing + scumslip

I don't see anything that points me towards voting Iamp over a lurker

Just my .02 take it with a grain of salt


Would usually make me think you'd check someone like Forumite instead oO
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 18:02 GMT
#2209
On July 12 2014 02:58 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 02:56 Toadesstern wrote:
actually never mind that, could be interpreted in various ways.

Still don't like the html tags though.


I'm curious, What ways are there to interpret it?

I thought about it being a bitchy way to say "nice try but sadly your effort was in vain, because XXX"
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 11 2014 18:10 GMT
#2210
CAN PEOPLE UNVOTE???

WE STILL HAVE +12 HOURS LEFT.

Mderg is going to give his final reads?

Why are you scummers so afraid of what he will say?
I had a good night of sleep.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 11 2014 18:12 GMT
#2211
At least its two votes till hammer instead of one Koshi.

Toad do you think that bm is scummier than Mderg?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 11 2014 18:15 GMT
#2212
I still really like a ritoky lynch
Writer@WriterYamato
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 11 2014 18:21 GMT
#2213
On July 12 2014 03:15 yamato77 wrote:
I still really like a ritoky lynch

who'd you rather lynch of damdred and mderg?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 18:21 GMT
#2214
On July 12 2014 03:12 Damdred wrote:
At least its two votes till hammer instead of one Koshi.

Toad do you think that bm is scummier than Mderg?


about equal right now. I however don't want to vote Mderg right now with there already being that many votes on him when we can still use this time we got. When palmar tells me that I need to get voting I'll see about it but not sooner.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 11 2014 18:28 GMT
#2215
also, yeah, we're not lynching until it's a LOT closer to deadline

for one, I really haven't had time to do anything yet today
Writer@WriterYamato
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 19:01 GMT
#2216
might need to rush off and i dont have time for full analysis but...

these were the 3 main important lynches:
obwian (Mafia) forumite(?) and iamp(town)

obi wagon at it's highest
obiwanshinobi (4): prplhz, exo_, visceraeyes, yamato77

i feel like prplhz and exo are town but might need to look over it

fourmite wagons at it's highest
forumite (7): toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, bill, alakaslam, koshi

toad sloosh and huruh are the ones i would be least confident calling town followed by billl

full iamp wagon:
iamperfection (14): prplhz, toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, yamato77, alakaslam, koshi, forumite, vivax , sinani, corazon


people on iamp wagon that weren't on either of the other two
iamperfection (14): obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, forumite, vivax , sinani, corazon

of this group we know obi was mafia and that corazon was town, i am willing to label kush and sinani town so this suggest vivax or forumite is scum

playerlist minus 3 main wagons
IAmRobik town
iamperfection town
layabout
ritoky
batsnacks
mderg
Damdred
Forumite
HiroPro
Tehpoofter 3rd party
27ninjabunnies 3rd party

maybe someone could colour it?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 11 2014 19:04 GMT
#2217
On July 12 2014 01:47 ritoky wrote:
VE, how do you feel about sloosh and his push on low hanging fruit?

Decent heuristic but only when applied with proper context. Read my posts on my interpretation of how D1 went to see how I came to that conclusion.

That said, could you please give your thoughts on mderg, HiroPro and BM?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 11 2014 19:12 GMT
#2218
On July 12 2014 04:01 layabout wrote:
might need to rush off and i dont have time for full analysis but...

these were the 3 main important lynches:
obwian (Mafia) forumite(?) and iamp(town)

obi wagon at it's highest
Show nested quote +
obiwanshinobi (4): prplhz, exo_, visceraeyes, yamato77

i feel like prplhz and exo are town but might need to look over it

fourmite wagons at it's highest
Show nested quote +
forumite (7): toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, bill, alakaslam, koshi

toad sloosh and huruh are the ones i would be least confident calling town followed by billl

full iamp wagon:
Show nested quote +
iamperfection (14): prplhz, toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, yamato77, alakaslam, koshi, forumite, vivax , sinani, corazon


people on iamp wagon that weren't on either of the other two
Show nested quote +
iamperfection (14): obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, forumite, vivax , sinani, corazon

of this group we know obi was mafia and that corazon was town, i am willing to label kush and sinani town so this suggest vivax or forumite is scum

playerlist minus 3 main wagons
IAmRobik town
iamperfection town
layabout
ritoky
batsnacks
mderg
Damdred
Forumite
HiroPro
Tehpoofter 3rd party
27ninjabunnies 3rd party

maybe someone could colour it?

how am I part of the least townish guys when I was the one pushing ObiWan as well? Do you really think I'd bus that guy d1 as mafia oO
What about the whole part where everyone agrees that I played a really obvious town d1?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 19:18 GMT
#2219
toad i just moved you off my "surefire town" list not calling you scum i am just less sure now
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 11 2014 19:19 GMT
#2220
On July 11 2014 23:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 23:51 kushm4sta wrote:
He's not attempting a topic change


Yes he does, he discusses BM with SlOosh. When SlOosh isn't convinced, he attacks his case on mderg for no reason I can think of except "well, this guy is opposing me". When SlOosh says his defense sucks, he tries to go back to discussing BM.

I can't think of any other reason for Hiro starting to defend mderg at that single point when he could have done that much earlier, except for the reason that SlOosh was opposing him.


I'm not sure if you're willfully ignorant or just aren't paying any attention. Considering that the posts you quoted were only a page apart, I have no idea how you missed this. Furthermore in no way were my posts causing a "topic switch".

On July 11 2014 13:28 HiroPro wrote:
Would someone like to explain this push on mderg beyond just the fact that he's been defensive today and didn't vote yesterday? Looking at his posts from day 1, he has clear opinions on people and he seems to be making an effort to understand the game. Most of them are townreads but he has his own reasons. Compare this guy's filter to Damdred's filter and I think the difference should be apparent.

Show nested quote +
After reading some of the discussion about forumite I don´t think he is scum. His reason for townreading prplhz is too incomprehensible to come from mafia. As mafia I would always try to find a reason others might agree with over something like this strange meta reason.

Show nested quote +
I think Toades´ line of thought was perfectly reasonable here. That he brings up these conflicting points and wants more thoughts on it seems pretty townie to me.

Show nested quote +
His post sounded a bit like my townplay when I was new to mafia. I can see why people see that as scummy but I don´t think it is. Confidence in your reads isn´t alignmment indicative to me.
(above in reference to Corazon)
Show nested quote +
I have a hard time seeing anything that might help town in this post. You might as well have not posted anything at all. The list says almost nothing. There´s no reasons at all, so one can´t see your thought process behind the list. To me this looks like you want to appear like you have thoughts on many players without actually having to explain anything.
Saying that people just have to ask to get your proper reads also kinda supports my point. You can make up reasons for liking/ not liking someone relatively quickly, if you already know how you want to read them.
This makes you appear to be trying to figure out the game without having to do anything.
(above in reference to ninjabunnies)
Show nested quote +
Damdred´s post seemed pretty average to me. Yes, not really scummy but nothing especially townie. Considering that you had him as scummy before this feels strange. Your reason for dropping the suspicion is basically that his reaction was calm and thoughtful.

Show nested quote +
I don´t like that forumite keeps his vote on koshi here. At that point koshi was already very townie, there´s no reason to believe that koshi is town. Maybe scum forumite would be scared of backing down because it might seem inconsistent? Not sure but that doesn´t really look like scumhunting.





Even if he is actually a tracker, BM still hasn't given even an iota of an explanation for why he claimed being roleblocked. It's downright awful that you guys are letting this pass and contemplating hammering mderg. Furthermore, prplhz's case on Damdred is still the best thing I've seen in this thread and I'm still up for lynching him.
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