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Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 01:12 GMT
#166
On July 01 2014 08:10 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 07:56 Snickers wrote:
And et try to read my posts better. I never said his current vote(do not even know if he is voting ) is him following somebody else.

? This is what I said:

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On July 01 2014 06:54 EchelonTee wrote:
Well that's just a bad case. Robik was the first to suggest Chairman Ray was buddying (the whole pockets thing). It is not true that he is voting someone without his own reason. I do not get the impression that he lacks interest in the game.

I said your case is bad because you claimed Robik was pushing CR without having his own reasoning. I pointed out that he did have his own reasoning. I did not mention following at all.

Are you not an English native speaker?


No i was saying that he admitted that he would just jump onto a lynch with somebody else, I am going to reread the thread and I will also give you more proper proof when your nap is finished.

Talking about your "nap", saying "hopefully" ill be back before the hammer is scummy as hell. Shows complete disinterest in the game.

You were suggesting my English is bad? "Are you not an English native speaker" could be a lot better as "Are you a native English speaker." Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo pass me some of your drugs.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 01:21 GMT
#170
Just had to say that making yourself look obvious town is actually bad. Most town person is who gets shot. This is just a general idea. If everybody that was town could make themselves look town but scum could not, than it would be good.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 01:40 GMT
#191
On July 01 2014 10:32 IAmRobik wrote:
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On July 01 2014 10:23 Chairman Ray wrote:
I would like to vote Alakaslam

How can you like someone who says "I would like to vote alakslam"?

Are you shitting me. What does that even mean?!?!? That's support polite, not trying to step on anyone's toes, omg, i hope people don't hate me for trying to get slam lynched right now, bullshit that's not convincing or forceful and doesn't mean shit, even when combined with a vote.

Why didn't he say "i'm voting slam" or i'm going to fucking vote slam right now cause that dude is fucking scum and here's why


good luck convincing people in this matter. I tried last game, the entire game and no one listened to me. Your not going to be able to convince people when your making no sense day one and creating enemies.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 02:18 GMT
#195
On July 01 2014 11:15 EchelonTee wrote:
Snickers, will you lay off? Implying that I am disinterested due to taking a fucking nap is completely ludicrous, when I am clearly one of the more active people in this game. You were already completely off the mark with this post so I'd appreciate if you'd just stop antagonizing me.


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On July 01 2014 09:24 Chairman Ray wrote:
Is your read on me because you think there's a lack of interaction between me and MM1? Do you have any other reasons for putting me on your lynch list?

I didn't like this post at all.
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On July 01 2014 07:03 Chairman Ray wrote:
On July 01 2014 06:41 EchelonTee wrote:
On July 01 2014 06:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
On July 01 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
That reasoning for why snickers is town is really fucking off and seems like CR is trying to pocket snickers


Well, I'm not trying to pocket anyone. The people I'm leaning town on are Snickers, SnB, and ET, and I would prefer they don't get lynched.

You basically just picked the most active people (minus Slam)... activity does not immediately = town

who do you want to lynch?


I didn't pick my 3 because they were active. I have other reasons for them and I'm not gonna make a case for them unless we're thinking about lynching them.

If I had to pick people to lynch, right now it would be between poofter and sinani. They have both been cruising by because nobody's on them, and there's no excuse to be this inactive when it's a 9 player game and barely anything is happening.

I also wouldn't mind lynching slam.

Your wording here is so. odd. "If I had to pick people to lynch"?

This is Mafia! If you're town then of course you want to pick people to lynch. That's how town wins the game. Why the "If I had to"? The way you worded that seems very reluctant, like you don't really believe in your reads at all. That's scummy to me.

I also feel like your case on Alakaslam is not good.
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On July 01 2014 10:23 Chairman Ray wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I would like to vote Alakaslam

This is one of his first posts:
On June 29 2014 04:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Fine

What I can gather is last people to vote are likely scum hoping they can hammer a townie

But they may know this so there is WIFOM

Think before hammer we have this luxury of time. For now, I think SNB has the right idea

snickers


Instead of posting why he's voting snickers, Alakaslam is pre-emptively defending his fast voting by saying that scum are more likely to vote last. A town would justify a vote after they are under pressure for it. This is very scummy to me.

On June 29 2014 15:35 Alakaslam wrote:
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On June 29 2014 06:12 Alakaslam wrote:
K

So snickers also follow BH scum advice to me


But come forth ye sinister in thy chuckling, simply explain yourself.

When Blazinghand coached me as scum in a newbie game, he advised me to be a jerk

I was "whut"

He was "srs for example: tell (dude) to give his grandmother cunnilingus for he is nothing"

I was "whut"

He was "do it now"

I was "whut"

I lost.

Snickers being catty, a jerk. A snicker is a sinister, mocking chuckle. I ask that he explain his pointing out a post is weird without saying which one it was, a la SNB's pointer.

Now I will read this page y'all


At the time, the reason why SnB voted snickers was because Snickers said a post was weird without indicating which one. Snickers made a sarcastic remark, and Alakaslam pushed him for it with the reasoning that BH coached him saying that being a jerk is a good strategy as scum. This is a pretty far-fetched reason to scumread someone and feels very forced.

1st you criticize Slam's early vote. Despite this being an IML setup, that doesn't change the fact that votes done very early are clearly just pressure votes, also known as the random voting stage. Basing a case off of that is ridiculous.

2nd you criticize the same vote, disregarding that Slam has long laid off from his pressure.

It's just not a compelling case.


I was right in that post. How the hell am I suppose to not think you pulled it out of the air. The reason you gave made sense, but is something no one would of realized or been able to have guess. Sorry for being critical in a game that awards being critical. Jeez I was not saying you are scum for not giving a reason, I am wondering what your reason is. Putting pressure on people is the best way to get slips.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 02:41 GMT
#199
Ok here is my list of reads so far.(sans the loathed adjective.) I think posts of reads are beneficial.
Et I need to look at him again (do not want anger blurring my vision). It is very weird that he said "hopefully" i will be back and then was back six hours before the lynch. What makes it even more weird, is that he was not being pressured by votes.
Iamrobik- Town- He was suggesting he was not going to post today but has posted good info. Maybe he meant relatively.
Slam-Town-nothing suspicious happening. He has had the same reasoning all game.
StrongNbig- Slight scum- he replied to someone "but his content is scummy" instead of trying to convince the person of his case.
Sinani Top scum read, has few posts, but why is that scummy? all of them were useless except for his the last one which is also the one he tacked a vote to. Very scummy to vote with your first actual post in the game. (StrongNBig was different because it was before things got developed).
ChairmanRay-scum-He did not talk about voting people until questioned by Et. Then he has 2-3 times of saying unfitting words.
MysteryMeat Slight scum- He has few posts, and also is wishy washy.
tehpoofter Town-He drove some conversation. Nothing suspicious.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 02:47 GMT
#202
I am going to go chill with a friend for a little. Will be back in an hour or two. One thing I forgot to mention above was that Strong and Big listed five people who he thought was scummy, then said he would not vote for the remaining four. I thought it was weird that he said four and not three.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 02:50 GMT
#203
Sorry for the slight spam but what is the case against mysterymeat? He is the top voted for now ( I value ET and SnB votes more than sinani)
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 04:52 GMT
#215
Ok guys since most of us are in the U.S. We should change the deadline to a more doable hour. I will never be able to be awake 3 am to 5 am. It is most likely to late for this lynch, but the next lynch it is possible. I have no clue if I should be consolidating here on Mystery Meat. In four hours, will enough people switch to sinani? I also think it is probable that MysteryMeat will get killed for not voting.

Anyway here is my judgment call. Et seems very town to me with how he explained himself. I was thinking that the iml would be what I was overlooking but could not think of how. I have a slight scum read on MysterMeat and I think we all have agreed that is it better to risk a mislynch than to not lynch someone. I do not see how a no lynch would be preferable. Nobody has said that they would be back to consolidate so I am very clueless about how this will turn out. I am guessing slam and poofter will consolidate.

So not voting sinani but we all need to get on the same page, and if he does scummy stuff tomorrow, we need to deal with it. Does anyone else think that the only important post all day one with a vote attached to it is scummy?

So changing my vote from sinani to MM.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 17:16 GMT
#251
Notice how I said "I think" people really miss some big things.

I like pointing things out. I guess you think it is useless. I see multiple good things in that paragraph. Even if that paragraph is useless, you are responding to it. It is creating more talk.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 17:22 GMT
#254
Shit Iamrobik be careful with what you are writing. Everyone already went batshit crazy on me. I never called everyone bad or labeled everyone as bad. I guess that is why you took the "I think" wrongly. I choose words carefully.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 17:24 GMT
#255
On July 02 2014 02:20 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 02:16 Snickers wrote:
Notice how I said "I think" people really miss some big things.

I like pointing things out. I guess you think it is useless. I see multiple good things in that paragraph. Even if that paragraph is useless, you are responding to it. It is creating more talk.

You can't say "my post wasn't pointless because people are bringing it up 10 pages later." Your post was pointless because it didn't fucking say anything.

Did you ever explain your read on the end of page 5 where you said "someone already did something weird and possibly scummy and i'll bring it up tomorrow?" Was that in reference to the post you quoted of me saying that I'm trying to draw a nk?


Yes it was ET. What happened was he did something that I could find no motive for it. He said it was because the two players played mafia before or something.(I do not understand how people who have played this game longer do not see these things) And yea If a post is making people talk it has a point. Especially early game. But still you really cannot see the points in that post. I do not have in it in front of me but paragraph three was were I showing what the voting does here versus regular.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 17:29 GMT
#257
Damn why is that people never understand my posts. No I meant do not even suggest that I think I am better than everyone else. I do not want batshit on my face.

Anyway your posts look weird to me initially, I do not have time to read them in depth.

You seem too wishy washy.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 17:43 GMT
#260
On July 02 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Your confusing multiple posts.

Summarizing your post:

Paragraph 1: Explanation of BH scum advice and that you think it's annoying
Paragraph 2: Explanation of how ET shouldn't find your post excessively negative
Paragraph 3: Discussion of IML and how people shouldn't vote cause mafia can late-vote to hammer if it gets close
Paragraph 4: More talk about how being BM is trendy

Please tell me how that post is useful AT ALL.


I am not showing you anything until you read the post clearly.

Paragraph 1. I had no fucking clue what the "bh scum advice" was so you are off.
Paragraph 2. Ok at least you understand this one a bit. I also talked about my experience and also commented how people do not read the rules. What do you mean by not useful? Not pushing somebody? This was early in the game posts like this generate discussion.
Paragraph 3. I talked about Iml but never about that second part.
Paragraph 4. I said bm is not trendy.

So multiple times you messed up reading a simple post that I tried to write clearly. Now I know why you are so wishy washy on me. You do not even understand me.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 17:46 GMT
#261
Woops ok third post had that but this had more to it. That was not my main point.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 17:56 GMT
#263
Well I have to go but I will might be around at 8:30 eastern and around 10.

I still do not see how it is useless. I think it has value in every piece. Every post has some value as long as its not like sinanis first few. If you really think it has no value, I am preatty sure no one else mentioend to not vote someone very quick, and wait towards the deadline. I could easily see people making that mistake since not much iml experience.

And I would argue agaisnt your last points. Asking question? I was anwsering questions. It would be pointless to ask questions if no one anwsered them. You could make just as effective posts with regular sentences. Also I do not like posting reads in the early game, I think it blurs people vision. I much rather get people talking. I also want to hear people without someone else pushing them hard.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 18:19 GMT
#265
Yea I am done with this conversation it is not going anywhere. You pull up this game that I have no clue of and act like its something that is common knowledge. You contradicted yourself. You said questions were good but are acting like answers are useless.

#leavethethreadandcomebackwithaclearmindratherthangetemotional
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 18:23 GMT
#266
Yea and my third point is right. A not so bright townie could come in the thread and do that. Then people would probably freak and mislynch him the next day.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 18:45 GMT
#268
Refer back to my post where I said you do not even understand my posts. I hope everyone goes batshit on you for calling people bad without a reason to help the game.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 19:01 GMT
#270
Wow very mature. Talk shit then dismiss. Hopefully when you come back to the thread you will have chilled the fuck out. It is really simple. My post was answering people. You then say questions push the game forward. Questions are practically useless without answers. This is one of those things were you are so emotional you do not even believe what you are typing at this point. You are just reading me as scum at this point.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 01 2014 19:17 GMT
#274
On July 02 2014 03:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Saying that I can't read isn't gonna win you an argument. Anyone who reads what you wrote will come to the same conclusion. If you want to apologize for not saying what you actually meant, then that's one thing, but saying I'm misinterpreting or misunderstanding what you wrote is a huge fallacy.

Whatever, SnB and I will get you lynched tomorrow. No skin off my back. Feel free to ignore me for the rest of the game and continue making useless posts.

Bye!


Sentence by Sentence.

1.Never sad you cant read. Saying you do not understand me is me being sincere. While saying you cannot read is rude.
2.Ok then you asssume something.
3.More assuming. You use the word fallacy like you have not made this whole post out of fallacies. This is where i think you need to go chill the fuck out.
4.A threat? I do not see the point in this.
5.Ok?
6.No point to this either.
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