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On June 28 2014 22:31 Rainbows wrote:
Calls robik probably town for his scum trap when most people are leaning that way, and then calls him scum for it later on when it's convenient. GG
It is close to that matter but it's not quite that.
When he answered to my interpretation of events he said this:
Thinking about this Rainbow and sinani are not as scummy anymore. They both didn´t really disappear after the Robik votes as I first thought they did. It also should have been obvious to them that he did not actually slip, if they were mafia.
This view of events that clears you and sinani implies that he either thinks or knows that Robik is town, which is something we don't know yet although I think that is the case.
But then:
I also don´t like Robik that much anymore since he made this trap which is actually more likely to make townies look bad than scum.
If mderg changes his mind about Robik or assumes he could be scum, then that also takes away the justification for him to clear sinani and Rain based on his previous post. And yet he didn't go for that line of thinking, which tells us he isn't really trying to figure out their alignments.
Also I'm not really a dayvig but it's good to know you're committed to the cause now.
I felt something was off with the way he was giving out reads already.
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On June 28 2014 22:51 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 22:18 Vivax wrote:
It's also time for some action cause I found a scum:
##shoot: mderg
Watch him flip red and shit bricks you didn´t find scum. And your reasoning is shit.
Prove me wrong. You changed your reasoning on sinani and Rain when presented with the fact that sinani's, kush's and my (not posted) reaction weren't scummy cause mafia would know that a townie claiming scum is still a townie.
This only applies when you think or know that Robik IS indeed townie. If you take away this aspect, like you did when you said you don't like him anymore (in the context of being asked about people you would lynch), then that also should have changed back your reasoning on Rain and sinani, which I didn't see happen when I asked you about people you would lynch.
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On June 28 2014 23:08 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 23:00 Vivax wrote:On June 28 2014 22:51 mderg wrote:On June 28 2014 22:18 Vivax wrote:
It's also time for some action cause I found a scum:
##shoot: mderg
Watch him flip red and shit bricks you didn´t find scum. And your reasoning is shit. Prove me wrong. You changed your reasoning on sinani and Rain when presented with the fact that sinani's, kush's and my (not posted) reaction weren't scummy cause mafia would know that a townie claiming scum is still a townie. This only applies when you think or know that Robik IS indeed townie. If you take away this aspect, like you did when you said you don't like him anymore (in the context of being asked about people you would lynch), then that also should have changed back your reasoning on Rain and sinani, which I didn't see happen when I asked you about people you would lynch. If you are actually dayvig, you will be proven wrong soon enough. In what world would the votes make sense when they´re mafia together? If Robik is actually mafia, there´s like no way they´re also mafia.
Sure there is, if one of your scumbuddies fakeclaims, you will overreact most of the times if he doesn't inform you of it beforehand which is pretty much something I exclude in this case cause he made that post within a minute as a reply to Rain and hence would have had no time to tell his scumbuddies "Hey bros I'm going to claim scum now be rdy".
Overall I don't think he's scum anyway but if you think that you can clear sinani on the premise that Robik is town but don't keep suspecting sinani when that premise is gone, then you aren't thinking townie in my opinion.
Saying they can't be scum together is an entirely different mindset than you used before to clear one of them.
It also involved you changing your mindset from "Robik is too ballsy to be scum" to "He can be this ballsy and it could also have been a trap for townies".
I will listen to what you have to say and reconsider if I have to but I found the way your reads developed there quite untownielike. If I'm making a mistake by all means help me believe that it is what I'm doing.
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On June 28 2014 23:35 Cavalinho wrote:
I'm probably not going to be on at deadline. I'll be on maybe an hour or two before and that's it.
Still don't get why people think I look bad.
Let's buy this man a round of bawww, so he may start posting something useful instead of complaining and telling us about his time restrictions.
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It means that with you posting everybody in the game had posted something and hence the scumhunting could really being.
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Hey kush what's your opinion on this mderg stuff? Am I seeing things or am I blowing something out of proportion. I didn't really get much feedback except for mderg himself and rainbows.
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On June 29 2014 00:04 Koshi wrote:
Wait people actually really did believe the Robik thing. dafuq... I thought everybody was joking. But they aren't. This changes things. Sinani doesn't look so bad now. He really really believes it...
In fact I didn't quite understand why Robik claimed sinani was joking at first. To me sinani looked serious about it from the start and then felt more strongly about it when Robik made another remark like that, which gave me the same effect.
Overall I decided to believe it was a fake scumslip cause he built in two, but when I read it first I also thought he fucked up for real.
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On June 29 2014 00:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 00:10 IAmRobik wrote:On June 28 2014 18:41 Vivax wrote:
Today I'd probably lynch between Exo, Poofter, Cava, mderg. Palmar not today probably cause he admitted his case was awful and that puts some people who agreed with it into worse positions, namely Poofter and Koshi who I think are scummy.
Exo cause the only time he found it worth to post something it was when a guy scumclaimed, and he was pronto on the spot to do so which tells me he was lurking.
Koshi I would lynch for a mentioned variety of reasons. But I'm willing to give him a 1-day buddy bonus, not today and I wanna reconsider if I'm wrong on him.
Poofter cause his perspective strongly diverges from my townread's perspectives (kush and Rain) and cause his reason for me being scummy is that I ask kush why he doesn't vote Palmar. Koshi himself called me out for this and I replied to it asking what the fuck is scummy about confronting other people if their conclusions differ from mine.
Overall he fails to see how in that situation where I was gloriously debating Palmar I had the Koshi background noise trying to divert my attention, talk about his townreads and then criticizing me for confronting kush with our different Palmar opinions I developed a distrust of both Palmar and Koshi.
Since that game where I hard defended him D1 as scum Cava has been scumreading me D1 every time so I don't put much weight into that but his reaction to Robik's claim was unusual. At first he looked concerned and later he didn't give a fuck and started trolling Robik.
mderg is kinda suspicious for the way he occasionally pops in. I know him to be not the most active but usually as townie, then occasionally he provided longish insight posts that some people found scummy for some reason. However this is probably my weakest suspect for now.
So, I'd say I'd lynch Poofter or Exo if I had to pick one now.
Robik since you seem to know this guy well do you think that this Panks is a solid lynch? WE ARE LYNCHING SINANI TODAY! I don't care about anyone else. LITERALLY 0 FUCKS Your case sucked. Sinani his first post wasn't a joke at all. Do you have more evidence or is that it?
I do have to admit I might start thinking sinani is mafia since he now said that it's possible Robik didn't scumclaim on purpose which to me just sounds ridiculous. One claim, ok. But two in a row in the same post?
However I find Robik's initial arguments bad too. Sinani won't unvote "loljokeover" if he didn't mean it as a joke in the first place.
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On June 29 2014 00:22 sinani206 wrote:
Whether it was on purpose or not its scummy idgaf.
Aren't you interested into that vote from Cav?
Why doesn't it bother you that Koshi brings up an unexplained vote from Cav on you and you're just like "Meh, idgaf Robik is scummier".
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Idk Koshi I am more on the town side of things with kush
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On June 29 2014 00:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 00:24 Vivax wrote:
Idk Koshi I am more on the town side of things with kush There is no way Kush ignores Cav like that. Dafuq did cav do there? He makes a ballsy post on Kush, like, I never see people be so aggressive, and then out of fucking nowhere both Kush and Cav stop voting for each other? I don't get it. I really don't get it. Kush didn't even address Cav his points. About the HaruRh thing. They just split ways...
You do have a point, let's see what they pull out of their hat.
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On June 29 2014 03:06 kushm4sta wrote:
oo that observation is so dumb it's townie
On June 29 2014 03:27 Koshi wrote:
I could lynch OO. That comment is pure shit. No townie mindset at all
Fight plz
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So let's see. Sinani got a lot of traction, Cava is kinda getting traction. Robik got some traction.
Only traction on mderg is me, Palmar is sliding by without doing ass and OO must be on drugs.
I'm not sure I feel entirely comfortable with where this is heading.
Rainbows when I "shot" mderg you looked very confident in saying he was scummy I'm just wondering where all your enthusiasm went when the points I made sunk into this blob and he disappeared after disagreeing with me.
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On June 29 2014 04:32 kushm4sta wrote:
vivax, everyone is moving to cav. what do you think of him?
I think that Palmar is guilty of the same accusation Cav gets but he can slide cause he's palmar and cause of the effort he put into his purposefully bad case at the start?
Currently there are more possible scummers than I'd like, but I have issues with how easily Cav gets called scum as opposed to Palmar. Both kinda seem to throw around reads lacking an explanation.
If you want to hear some other stuff I said about Cav just read my filter cause there has not been much from him besides that since. We're currently waiting for him to deliver a promised wall of text to koshi.
I didn't like the stuff mderg did with his Robik and sinani reads and it only fuels the mderg stuff if nobody wants to push him for the same thing, either mafia is lazy or they don't want him pushed. Overall I feel he didn't try to be very transparent with his reads cause I had to get them all out with questions past the post where he sort of agreed with my analysis.
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Cav, if Haru's entrance was so awful, why was your first focus on this stuff and not on him?
Why did you want to lynch into me and Palmar anyway?
On June 27 2014 17:39 Cavalinho wrote:
Disagree with the Palmar read, want to discuss the kush read, slight town on mderg.
It's 4:30 AM and I'll post more when I wake up.
On June 28 2014 00:44 Cavalinho wrote:
Koshi having shitreads is not alignment indicative.
Tried to lynch him for it before, didn't work.
I want to lynch between Vivax and Palmar.
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Is it a bad thing that I want to lynch Palmar?
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On June 29 2014 05:07 Palmar wrote:
Yeah it should be vivax. There is no point in the case on you aand instantly dropping it if I'm mafia.
Also I think I'm gonna do this based on his "lynch me day 2" thing.
##vote haru
It could be something a blue could say too.
Just sayin.
No blues here, carry on.
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Just fyi, Palmar tells his dying scumbuddies to fakeclaim before they die so theý fish a blue coutnerclaiming with their death.
If you're cop don't counterclaim, keep a mental note that cav is scum, get your check off and then see if you can claim the next day.
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On June 29 2014 05:22 HaruRH wrote:
He definitely won't survive past d1/n1 LOL
If people still want to lynch him -> dead
If he survive -> scum shoot him -> dead
RIP cava.
Yeah but would you lynch him today? I wouldn't.
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