Normal Mini Mafia LVI

On June 18 2014 05:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't believe you Koshi, statistics dictate that you're scum. Statistics also say I'm he guy that's actually town. I don't become bffs with scum
I also don't believe you're dumb enough to consider that a scumslip. Further proof of scumminess.

On June 18 2014 08:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:


So why am I mafia, koshi?

You said you read everything, but couldn't find anything substantial. So if that's the case, why are you jumping on a BW?

On June 19 2014 21:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
That list is Snickers/Release/LM. Blah. I should really solidify my read on Snickers/LM this cycle.

On June 20 2014 01:34 Snickers wrote:


She dismisses it when it has merit. It is weird how you are saying something exactly like Release said. Sure she may have commented it on it. But think about it this way. (Not pointing to you just the first example that i thought of) If you come into this thread and just talk about the meta of a different game to prove someone meta, you are not really commenting on the game. 27nb never understand how the kenpachi rule had some merit or she did not care about it (dismiss). It is easy to understand the merit of it so i was led to think that she dismissed it.

I am still in favor of being wrong leads me to think you are scum. This just makes me think you are more scum.

On June 20 2014 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'd like you to qualify your statement of "scum are idiots" when the evidence (nothing but mislynches, presumably not RBing you when you're vanilla town, your complete lack of a further scum candidate so far) points to the exact opposite at least from where I'm sitting.

Like from where I'm sitting, you've gone on and on about how "GODLY" you are at mafia, so you saying scum are idiots this game serves no purpose but to make yourself seem LESS mafia by association (mafia so bad, you so good, hence you aren't scum) when that's from my perspective not even a read you can currently have on the situation.

On June 20 2014 22:54 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm busy today as well but will hopefully at least be able to post during the lynch. I don't really get the BH wagon yet though. Well, I do get it but I don't get how people would rather vote for BH than they would vote for VE or Koshi.

Untill his reason vote he didn't have a single scum read what so ever. And it IS very convinient that he votes that number 1 lynchbait...

On June 21 2014 00:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Koshi, you hate playing scum whereas you like playing town. You're not playing right now, therefore I'm quite happy to vote you.

On June 21 2014 00:47 mderg wrote:
Koshi... that´s so incredibly lazy.

On June 21 2014 00:52 mderg wrote:

Definitely lazy, possibly scummy.

On June 21 2014 04:28 Chezinu wrote:

Love
it's all about love and friendship.

What do you think about lazermonkey? How do you feel about being spare for the sake of being a replacement?

On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.

Vote him.

On June 21 2014 06:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think mderg is mafia too. But like I said before, I like the people on BH better than the people on mderg for town, so I'm voting with whom I perceive to be town. That's where I'm at, and that's why I'm voting for you.

On June 23 2014 00:56 Lazermonkey wrote:

Okay, lets consider some facts.

You are obviously active since you answered both of my posts within 5 minutes.

I am your biggest scum read.

Alot of people (read: not a majority) don't want to kill me.

If I were in your shoes (assuming that you are town now), I know what I would've done. I would've pushed the fuck out of that Lazermonkey-basterd. You on the other hand, seem okay with just leaving your vote on me and chilling. Why are you not pushing me? Why not push SlOosh?

On June 23 2014 01:29 Lazermonkey wrote:

Why should I tell you how should get me lynched? I'm not voting myself.

On June 23 2014 02:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
SlOosh

On June 23 2014 03:05 Lazermonkey wrote:

I think this logic is pretty terrible.

On June 23 2014 03:11 Lazermonkey wrote:

Wat.

I honestly don't understand what your trying here. Nevertheless, I am done with you for the moment. If you truly are town then you have better things to do.

On June 23 2014 03:19 Lazermonkey wrote:

I never said VE wasn't mafia.

If you think that because I said both you and SlOosh were scummy, I cannot have any other scum reads then you are wrong. I am fully aware that there are most likely 3 scum in this game. There are varying degrees of scumminiess though.

On June 23 2014 06:54 Lazermonkey wrote:

Are you playing dumb? Read my filter.

On June 24 2014 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Nah, I want to lynch the Kosher.

This post is really bad.

On June 24 2014 04:30 VisceraEyes wrote:

You're sheeping BH who is confirmed bad at this game.

On June 20 2014 22:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
This is also a good point brought up. Everyone that is voting mderg should explain why they vote him very very clearly and why the reason you vote him makes him scum. Explain how that action isn't likely to have come out of a newbie town player also.

On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.

Vote him.

On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:

Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding.

On June 24 2014 05:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

The tone of your post makes no sense. Your question is phrased in a level-headed way, then you proceed to trash his reads. It looks incredibly forced to me.

On June 24 2014 05:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I'm not talking about the content, I'm talking about the tone you're using. "Any chance?" is a very submissive phrasing, whereas the latter half is very distinctly different.

On June 24 2014 05:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can we please lynch Koshi though? His read post is so bad.
Talks about why VE is scum. Stops and goes over to Lazer and talks about how he wants to lynch Lazer, then ends his post with why VE is town based on unflipped associations presuming that Lazer is scum. He hasn't done anything this game other than voting for the right person in mderg. Case on Lazer boils down to "I'm not scum and he pushed me over his other suspects who I also think are town."
Is there any reason not to lynch him?
##Vote Koshi

On June 24 2014 06:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Why do you consider VE town when you don't know Lazer's alignment and VE has acted, in your opinion, scummily in his own right?

On June 24 2014 06:54 Snickers wrote:
Koshi is town because of how bad his play continual is. Look at his first scum reads as me release and somebody else because we did not vote together. He's not pushing the thread or helping much but what do you expect from a bad town player. More on this later.

On June 24 2014 07:13 Chezinu wrote:

What do you think about VE not voting to save himself?

On June 24 2014 07:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

You're right in that

On June 24 2014 07:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Your appeal to emotion bores me. Also, I'm not that certain you're scum, just that you're my biggest scumread in absence of others. It was just too funny to not take out of context.

On June 24 2014 09:12 YouKnowZhou wrote:


Your vote was on VE, you didn't make a case on VE, then you wrote this big case on LM and said you really wanted to lynch him, but apparently you didn't cause you kept your vote on VE. If you think about it, this is exactly the kind of thing we're lynching VE for doing lol

On June 24 2014 09:12 slOosh wrote:
Alright. It's obviously a redemption round.

##Unvote Koshi
##Vote Lazermonkey

On June 24 2014 09:27 slOosh wrote:
D2, when he was super busy, the time he had he chose to pursue Koshi.

It is clear from his filter that nothing from N2 or D3 has impressed him thus far. However, when a VE wagon arises, Lazermonkey suddenly starts having qualms about lynching Koshi. When pressed for reasoning, he first refuses to quote the posts. When pressed again, he links them without explaining why. Furthermore it looks like he just grabbed random quotes from Koshi's filter, and really I don't see how it could possibly be enough to be like, "oh that Koshi read I've had for a super long time and I've wanted him dead for a super long time? Yea, nah I don't wanna vote him"

On June 24 2014 09:41 slOosh wrote:
Koshi I make more sense when you consider VE town. If you don't, then I guess I'm not making so much sense.

On June 24 2014 09:42 slOosh wrote:
Koshi we can still do this. Lynch BH tomorrow.

On June 24 2014 10:15 Snickers wrote:


So if koshi was posting more posts like this I would think he is scum. And i highly doubt there is a vigilante in this game if he has not shot his bullet yet.

On June 25 2014 04:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

You might be right. I think BH can be scum as well. Tunneled on two townies now. Also, some more stuff on Koshi:

Start of D3:


First time he mentions VE after that:

No evaluation. Calls VE town, then suddenly asks Lazer why VE is not mafia. There were no cases in between on BH for Koshi to re-eval, nor did Koshi mention anything about re-evaluating VE. He was interacting with Lazer at the time, considered VE town then suddenly wonders why Lazer doesn't think VE is mafia.

If there's anything in Koshi's fluffy post you want me to respond to I'll be happy to do so, but I don't see an added value for taking it apart piece by piece as a lot of it will be discussing non-alignment indicative things. The entire post is filled with nothing to push town forward and is full of emotional appeals that are frankly disgusting. If you can't handle the heat of someone calling you scum don't play the game.

On June 25 2014 04:47 Koshi wrote:
No wait. In his reads on N1 post LM said that his top scumreads were Koshi/VE and then after rereading D2 he said SloOsh/Koshi.

So I said "Why is VE mafia not mafia" because something must have happened in his rereading. Because he sticked to all his other reads but VE didn't get mentioned again. I wanted to see a reaction.

LM then dodged this question and his promised big post later he again to explain everything but then when he explained everything he against flipped SloOsh and VE around and was more scum on VE again and the reasons to why SloOsh was scum during his reread was minimized to "SloOsh is scum for being on the wrong wagon" and "general voting".

On June 26 2014 04:48 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Koshi, it sounds like you still think LazerMo is scum. If this is the case, please address my defense of Lazermo here (link). Tell my why I am wrong, if you have a moment.

On June 26 2014 20:37 Chezinu wrote:

So.. what's your role?

On June 27 2014 02:53 Snickers wrote:


suspicious anyway I think the voting is going to be in six hours and this thread is not going anywhere. Hopefully chezinu updates us.

On June 27 2014 03:00 Snickers wrote:
Why would you not just, I would never lie about my alignment. Saying you people makes it sound like your are not with us. Chezinu is apparently confirmed town so that even adds to it. Your also talking about lying about your alignment.

On June 27 2014 03:02 Snickers wrote:
Also just thought about something interesting. I am not 100% sure about this but lets consider something. YKZ hard pushes 27nb on day one. Relatively early. Same thing day two with VE. Now day three he has not pushed anyone yet, but only six hour till deadline? His biggest move so far was defending Lazer. Looking likely those two are scum.

On June 27 2014 03:55 Snickers wrote:
Jeez koshi start following the thread a bit more or check your posts before posting. Make it easier for town to see your town.

On June 27 2014 03:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
Actually, your right YKZ. Goon/GF/Framer would basically mean that the investigative roles are counterproduvtive. But Goon/GF/medic or Goon/Framer/medic all makes sense, especially since there was a town medic.

@Koshi


Lewut? Please explain how a red check makes me more town...

On June 28 2014 07:33 slOosh wrote:

Koshi how you feel about YKZ wanting to lynch you for a while now? Wanna lynch / bus him first?

On June 19 2014 04:51 Snickers wrote:
You are an idiot or scum if you can't "see" the scum in mderg's first post. First off saying there is a chance you are only going to contribute one post to day one. This shows his terrible interest in this game. Then he tries to say he votes to prevent mod kill. Id rather him be modkilled than him help lynch someone because he felt a slight scum. You guys must have played so many games of mafia you cannot think logically. You have these rules that you hold so highly. Even if these rules were true you guys cannot even use them right. So assuming they are true they still are no use. And somebody mentioned something about release. If you can't see the scum in his post there is a problem or you are scum.

I cannot believe no one mentioned this aspect of this game. 27nb had the same principles in her posts from the start. Confused, emotional, silly. So has ykz. Cocky , deceiving, focused. We know 27nb was town. If ykz is mafia he is very good at it. Even after the proof that he was wrong or was lying. He perfectly continues his principals after the lynch. Release on the other hand had been inconsistent with his principals. He seems aggressive than passive.
Reactionary than static. I think it should be looked into. I won't be able to post or read until six hours from now. I will look at be (whoever name keeps getting mentioned).

Also koshi seems to be obsessed with me. I am thinking him as third mafia.

On June 30 2014 09:25 slOosh wrote:
Man I played like garbage huh?

Like I don't even know what to take away from this game. Trust greenchecks more?

On July 02 2014 18:21 Blazinghand wrote:


Pressuring Release into voting you doesn't have any impact though. The only thing that has any impact is where the townie votes are at the end of the day. Like, if release vote was on you, then both you and he would just vote me on the end of the day.

I suppose it may have been worth it, but IMO it was fairly clear who the scum was. The real thing that convinced me Release was scum was my interactions with him during the day when VE was lynched, but it wasn't the kind of thing that would convince sloosh to vote him so I never shared it.