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I'm still on the market for lynching Koshi. A triple lynch today would be nice honestly.
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On June 21 2014 07:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm still on the market for lynching Koshi. A triple lynch today would be nice honestly.
Do you know why VE thinks release and sloosh are town?
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On June 21 2014 07:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 21 2014 06:58 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 06:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Looking at the first post Release quoted of Snickers, it reminds me of mderg's post but it looks worse to me. Mderg's post mentioned all relevant posts whereas Snickers goes off giving null reads on people who hardly posted so far. What's also interesting is how Snickers changed his read on you after momentum swung in favour of that read, with VE and goodkarma chiming in, which is mighty coincidental. It's unfortunate that he's a smurf/new player so I can't check meta  As I mentioned, I do want to lynch Snickers. I like the Release case but I doubt there's any real way to make Snickers happen over me today. I'd prefer mderg; I think he's more likely to flip town; but the inconsistencies that Release has pointed out make Snickers a more acceptable lynch today. Artanis, would you lynch Snickers today? I probably would. Even with the two of us together, it's just 2 votes on Snicks, which isn't any better than the 2 votes on mderg, whom I would rather lynch. Release isn't voting Snicks, so I'd rather keep my vote on mderg. If it turns out lynching Snicks becomes a real possibilty (ie Release votes him etc) then I'm on board, but until then I think mderg is a better choice. I'll see if I can find stuff in mderg's later filter that might be more convincing. Aside from the fact that it seems mderg wouldn't make this mistake as scum since he was more careful in the previous game, do you have any other hesitations about him being scum? Or is the case itself just not convincing enough, hesitations nonwithstanding? There's been a lot of things that made me think of mderg as town. The way he had the same idea about 27nb's reasons for reading me as town, the meta, the way he commented on all relevant things when he entered the thread and got straight to the point all felt townie to me. From the two games I read of him, I felt he played worse when he was town than when he was scum. I don't feel the current cases are convincing of him being scum, but rather of him playing poorly, which I would sooner attribute to him being town. The carefulness factors into that.
I understand what your'e getting at, though I won't pretend I am convinced. I'm willing to get on board with a Snickers wagon, he's my second favorite lynch choice and if it saves me, it saves me. The mderg case isn't perfect, and the biggest imperfection is the 2 factor change in meta from last game (carefulness, conversationalism) when he was scum. I chaulk this up to him being busy with world cup, but I will admit that the "he's actually town" explanation is in fact plausible. I also think some of the stuff snickers has done (ie peacing out, claiming he has 'contributed enough for the day') really raises my hackles. He has contributed less, and in a way is objectively more scummy than mderg because of how he addresses people (giving out nullreads, etc). If it weren't for mderg's nonsensical vote I'd be on snickers (as I was earlier today).
I still think, however, that the nonsensical vote counts for something. It feels like a 'scumslip' argument, but I don't really think it is. It's about whether or not you'd really have a coherent thought process through your post as town or scum. You say he's a careful guy, more careful as scum than as town, and this is often the case. I know it's the case for me. IT's why scumslips are generally false arguments. I think this vote is more about revealing his intentions and the integrity of his thought process. It's not about caution or brazneness. but about whether or not he's thinking through the thoughts he puts into his posts.
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On June 21 2014 07:16 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm still on the market for lynching Koshi. A triple lynch today would be nice honestly. Do you know why VE thinks release and sloosh are town?
I can tell from the way he's interacted with slOosh in his filter why he does. He's also made it explicit why he likes Release. I'm not sure how he got the initial reads of me being towny and those two being scummy though as he flipped all three of those reads throughout the day in a very linear fashion, but I'm willing to scribble that up to not reading properly the first time around.
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On June 21 2014 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:16 Chezinu wrote:On June 21 2014 07:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm still on the market for lynching Koshi. A triple lynch today would be nice honestly. Do you know why VE thinks release and sloosh are town? I can tell from the way he's interacted with slOosh in his filter why he does. He's also made it explicit why he likes Release. I'm not sure how he got the initial reads of me being towny and those two being scummy though as he flipped all three of those reads throughout the day in a very linear fashion, but I'm willing to scribble that up to not reading properly the first time around.
I think we can definitively say that VE during his first pass of the thread wasn't paying a huge amount of attention (ex: the confusion about YKZ/BH).
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On June 21 2014 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:16 Chezinu wrote:On June 21 2014 07:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm still on the market for lynching Koshi. A triple lynch today would be nice honestly. Do you know why VE thinks release and sloosh are town? I can tell from the way he's interacted with slOosh in his filter why he does. He's also made it explicit why he likes Release. I'm not sure how he got the initial reads of me being towny and those two being scummy though as he flipped all three of those reads throughout the day in a very linear fashion, but I'm willing to scribble that up to not reading properly the first time around.
Are you afraid of what people will think about you and slOosh after the flip?
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Chezinu, I have a question for you about Snickers. What do you think of the most recent case posted against him by Release, and what do you think about Snickers explicitly leaving the thread and declining to contribute for the rest of the day?
Also, I'm having trouble finding a mention of my case on mderg in your filter. Can you point me towwards it, or offer some input?
On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually. Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding.
I know, but I consider him to have replaced in at the 27nb lynch. He didn't really have time to formulate reads or do anything D1. After D2 ends, then he's fair game, but that's just the policy I roll with. It works. It could entirely be true that Koshi is scum, but on the whole it makes sense to not lynch people for a full cycle after they get in, and that doesn't mean "not lynch him until 3 hours before the end of the day, then lynch him" because that's BSey. The point is, the guy gets a free pass on a lynch for one day. I understand you disagree, but don't worry, Koshi isn't getting lynched today anyways. Once I'm gone, who will oppose you?
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On June 21 2014 07:21 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 21 2014 07:16 Chezinu wrote:On June 21 2014 07:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm still on the market for lynching Koshi. A triple lynch today would be nice honestly. Do you know why VE thinks release and sloosh are town? I can tell from the way he's interacted with slOosh in his filter why he does. He's also made it explicit why he likes Release. I'm not sure how he got the initial reads of me being towny and those two being scummy though as he flipped all three of those reads throughout the day in a very linear fashion, but I'm willing to scribble that up to not reading properly the first time around. Are you afraid of what people will think about you and slOosh after the flip?
I am not afraid of getting lynched at all. I've never gotten mislynched as town before, it's not happening now.
Speaking of which, BH, do you still want me lynched for that one post?
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On June 21 2014 07:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:21 Chezinu wrote:On June 21 2014 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 21 2014 07:16 Chezinu wrote:On June 21 2014 07:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm still on the market for lynching Koshi. A triple lynch today would be nice honestly. Do you know why VE thinks release and sloosh are town? I can tell from the way he's interacted with slOosh in his filter why he does. He's also made it explicit why he likes Release. I'm not sure how he got the initial reads of me being towny and those two being scummy though as he flipped all three of those reads throughout the day in a very linear fashion, but I'm willing to scribble that up to not reading properly the first time around. Are you afraid of what people will think about you and slOosh after the flip? I am not afraid of getting lynched at all. I've never gotten mislynched as town before, it's not happening now. Speaking of which, BH, do you still want me lynched for that one post?
Hilariously enough, you utterly abdicating critical thinking responsibility for your vote on me does not even put you in my top 4 scumreads right now. I wish it did. But it doesn't. What a game! Barring some changes, you're probably not in my list of "lynch these people first" that I'll leave when I die.
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On June 21 2014 07:22 YouKnowZhou wrote:Chezinu, I have a question for you about Snickers. What do you think of the most recent case posted against him by Release, and what do you think about Snickers explicitly leaving the thread and declining to contribute for the rest of the day? Also, I'm having trouble finding a mention of my case on mderg in your filter. Can you point me towwards it, or offer some input? Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually. Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding. I know, but I consider him to have replaced in at the 27nb lynch. He didn't really have time to formulate reads or do anything D1. After D2 ends, then he's fair game, but that's just the policy I roll with. It works. It could entirely be true that Koshi is scum, but on the whole it makes sense to not lynch people for a full cycle after they get in, and that doesn't mean "not lynch him until 3 hours before the end of the day, then lynch him" because that's BSey. The point is, the guy gets a free pass on a lynch for one day. I understand you disagree, but don't worry, Koshi isn't getting lynched today anyways. Once I'm gone, who will oppose you?
Why would I read cases? Who do you think I am?
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On June 21 2014 07:26 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:22 YouKnowZhou wrote:Chezinu, I have a question for you about Snickers. What do you think of the most recent case posted against him by Release, and what do you think about Snickers explicitly leaving the thread and declining to contribute for the rest of the day? Also, I'm having trouble finding a mention of my case on mderg in your filter. Can you point me towwards it, or offer some input? On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually. Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding. I know, but I consider him to have replaced in at the 27nb lynch. He didn't really have time to formulate reads or do anything D1. After D2 ends, then he's fair game, but that's just the policy I roll with. It works. It could entirely be true that Koshi is scum, but on the whole it makes sense to not lynch people for a full cycle after they get in, and that doesn't mean "not lynch him until 3 hours before the end of the day, then lynch him" because that's BSey. The point is, the guy gets a free pass on a lynch for one day. I understand you disagree, but don't worry, Koshi isn't getting lynched today anyways. Once I'm gone, who will oppose you? Why would I read cases? Who do you think I am?
super duper chezinu tier tldr
mderg's first post is a bunch of relevant townreads. he votes a townread in that post, 27nb.
what do you think of mderg
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On June 21 2014 07:26 YouKnowZhou wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:26 Chezinu wrote:On June 21 2014 07:22 YouKnowZhou wrote:Chezinu, I have a question for you about Snickers. What do you think of the most recent case posted against him by Release, and what do you think about Snickers explicitly leaving the thread and declining to contribute for the rest of the day? Also, I'm having trouble finding a mention of my case on mderg in your filter. Can you point me towwards it, or offer some input? On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually. Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding. I know, but I consider him to have replaced in at the 27nb lynch. He didn't really have time to formulate reads or do anything D1. After D2 ends, then he's fair game, but that's just the policy I roll with. It works. It could entirely be true that Koshi is scum, but on the whole it makes sense to not lynch people for a full cycle after they get in, and that doesn't mean "not lynch him until 3 hours before the end of the day, then lynch him" because that's BSey. The point is, the guy gets a free pass on a lynch for one day. I understand you disagree, but don't worry, Koshi isn't getting lynched today anyways. Once I'm gone, who will oppose you? Why would I read cases? Who do you think I am? super duper chezinu tier tldr mderg's first post is a bunch of relevant townreads. he votes a townread in that post, 27nb. what do you think of mderg
mderg is bad
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On June 21 2014 07:27 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:26 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 07:26 Chezinu wrote:On June 21 2014 07:22 YouKnowZhou wrote:Chezinu, I have a question for you about Snickers. What do you think of the most recent case posted against him by Release, and what do you think about Snickers explicitly leaving the thread and declining to contribute for the rest of the day? Also, I'm having trouble finding a mention of my case on mderg in your filter. Can you point me towwards it, or offer some input? On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually. Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding. I know, but I consider him to have replaced in at the 27nb lynch. He didn't really have time to formulate reads or do anything D1. After D2 ends, then he's fair game, but that's just the policy I roll with. It works. It could entirely be true that Koshi is scum, but on the whole it makes sense to not lynch people for a full cycle after they get in, and that doesn't mean "not lynch him until 3 hours before the end of the day, then lynch him" because that's BSey. The point is, the guy gets a free pass on a lynch for one day. I understand you disagree, but don't worry, Koshi isn't getting lynched today anyways. Once I'm gone, who will oppose you? Why would I read cases? Who do you think I am? super duper chezinu tier tldr mderg's first post is a bunch of relevant townreads. he votes a townread in that post, 27nb. what do you think of mderg mderg is bad
okay. snickers does the same thing, but with nullreads. then he votes and peaces out of the thread d2.
what do you think of snickers
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On June 21 2014 07:30 YouKnowZhou wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:27 Chezinu wrote:On June 21 2014 07:26 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 07:26 Chezinu wrote:On June 21 2014 07:22 YouKnowZhou wrote:Chezinu, I have a question for you about Snickers. What do you think of the most recent case posted against him by Release, and what do you think about Snickers explicitly leaving the thread and declining to contribute for the rest of the day? Also, I'm having trouble finding a mention of my case on mderg in your filter. Can you point me towwards it, or offer some input? On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually. Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding. I know, but I consider him to have replaced in at the 27nb lynch. He didn't really have time to formulate reads or do anything D1. After D2 ends, then he's fair game, but that's just the policy I roll with. It works. It could entirely be true that Koshi is scum, but on the whole it makes sense to not lynch people for a full cycle after they get in, and that doesn't mean "not lynch him until 3 hours before the end of the day, then lynch him" because that's BSey. The point is, the guy gets a free pass on a lynch for one day. I understand you disagree, but don't worry, Koshi isn't getting lynched today anyways. Once I'm gone, who will oppose you? Why would I read cases? Who do you think I am? super duper chezinu tier tldr mderg's first post is a bunch of relevant townreads. he votes a townread in that post, 27nb. what do you think of mderg mderg is bad okay. snickers does the same thing, but with nullreads. then he votes and peaces out of the thread d2. what do you think of snickers
snickers is bad
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On June 21 2014 07:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 07:30 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 07:27 Chezinu wrote:On June 21 2014 07:26 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 07:26 Chezinu wrote:On June 21 2014 07:22 YouKnowZhou wrote:Chezinu, I have a question for you about Snickers. What do you think of the most recent case posted against him by Release, and what do you think about Snickers explicitly leaving the thread and declining to contribute for the rest of the day? Also, I'm having trouble finding a mention of my case on mderg in your filter. Can you point me towwards it, or offer some input? On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually. Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding. I know, but I consider him to have replaced in at the 27nb lynch. He didn't really have time to formulate reads or do anything D1. After D2 ends, then he's fair game, but that's just the policy I roll with. It works. It could entirely be true that Koshi is scum, but on the whole it makes sense to not lynch people for a full cycle after they get in, and that doesn't mean "not lynch him until 3 hours before the end of the day, then lynch him" because that's BSey. The point is, the guy gets a free pass on a lynch for one day. I understand you disagree, but don't worry, Koshi isn't getting lynched today anyways. Once I'm gone, who will oppose you? Why would I read cases? Who do you think I am? super duper chezinu tier tldr mderg's first post is a bunch of relevant townreads. he votes a townread in that post, 27nb. what do you think of mderg mderg is bad okay. snickers does the same thing, but with nullreads. then he votes and peaces out of the thread d2. what do you think of snickers snickers is bad
bad but not scum?
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I'm just rereading the day 1 segment from Mderg's vote and the timing to me is the weirdest thing: I'm not talking about lurk and jump when called out, but his vote is so early and it doesn't change. He doesn't propound anything for town to discuss outside 27nb but by the time he returns to the thread, it has already pretty much become 27nb or mderg lynch. There are things that he could have done to heighten his towniness, but at this point, I'm reading him scummy but understandable (as I have been all game), but more scummy than before. I am starting to believe that I have given him too much credit for his motivation and not enough for the blatant meaning of his posts. I still think YKZ and snickers are better lynches today.
Next point. YKZ is doing exactly what "things that he could have done to heighten his towniness" by actually discussing reads, asking questions, and responding others opinions. Even if he is mafia, and I still think he is, this type of discussion move the town forwards which is unequivocally good for town. Because of this, I think Snickers takes the spot for top lynch candidate for today since he actually followed through with completely afking (completely unacceptable at this stage; even bullshit misleading town posts give information to town, but this screams that he's hiding), giving him yet another excuse for ignoring/dismissing my case on him.
##unvote
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Shenannies?
Shenannies.
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I am the shenannie queen young and free only 17
##unvote
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On June 18 2014 05:33 Kurumi wrote:Vote Count - Day 1: mderg (3): VisceraEyes, Lazermonkey, Chezinu, Snickers 27ninjabunnies (2): YouKnowZhou, Lazermonkey, mderg VisceraEyes (2): Lazermonkey, slOosh YouKnowZhou (1): 27ninjabunnies, Release, goodkarmaKoshi (1): Artanis[Xp] Release (0): Artanis[Xp], SnickersArtanis[Xp] (0): slOoshCurrently Not Voting (3): goodkarma, Koshi, 27ninjabunnies,
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On June 18 2014 08:54 OnceKing wrote:Vote Count - Day 1: 27ninjabunnies (6): YouKnowZhou, Artanis[Xp], mderg, Chezinu, Koshi, slOosh YouKnowZhou (1): Release VisceraEyes (1): goodkarma mderg (4): Snickers, VisceraEyes, 27ninjabunnies, Lazermonkey Currently Not Voting (0): None!
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On June 21 2014 06:56 Kurumi wrote:Vote Count - Day 2: YouKnowZhou (5): Release, slOosh, VisceraEyes, Artanis[Xp](revote), Snickers mderg (2): Snickers, YouKnowZhou, Koshi VisceraEyes (2): mderg, Chezinu Koshi (1): Lazermonkey, Artanis[Xp]Snickers (0): YouKnowZhouCurrently Not Voting (0): None!
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Chez, who would you rathest lynch between YKZ and Snickers? If neither, could you at least try to get your preferred lynch candidate lynched?
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