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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 21 2014 04:28 Chezinu wrote: Love it's all about love and friendship. What do you think about lazermonkey? How do you feel about being spare for the sake of being a replacement? Yeah that's a pretty bad reason bro. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
It starts off pretending to be a vote analysis. It is not. It is a wordy segue into "mderg was the first voter, let me talk about mderg". He clearly was leaning scum on bunnies given his vote at the end - the middle stuff is his thinking process, of picking apart which points he agrees with / disagrees with. You can see him do that with his reads on Snickers, Release and Artanis. Relevant break: On June 20 2014 18:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: slOosh, you were scumbuddies with mderg in Detention. Do you feel he's playing similarly in this game? BH, you were the host that game. What do you recall of his play and do you see similarities? Here is an example post from Cell (his town game): On May 29 2014 02:58 mderg wrote: Am I the only one here who wants cell C to go late? Right now I can´t read that at all. Hf´s mayor campaign seemed townie but at some point I started to find it strange how he didn´t want to take responsibility for the cell order. So my read on him is kinda null. batsnacks had some good guidelines about the cell order but it wasn´t really specific. I also didn´t agree with lynching the lowest contributing cells first. I´m slightly leaning towards town but I´m really not sure about that. ShiaoPi is like a huge question mark for me right now. So for me this is the last cell I´d want to go first. It can be interpreted as "wishy washy", but I think it is just his style of posting. He points out things he likes and things he dislikes in the same post. Thinking aloud so to speak. End break: On June 20 2014 18:57 YouKnowZhou wrote: Also, not only do I recall nothing about mderg's play, I don't even remember him being mafia in detention. I stopped really having time to host that game after D2, and I recall screwing up the night actions or something and then modkilling a scum player, and then maybe not delivering mderg's roleblock? In any case, you can take a look at his filter for yourself here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?user=mderg On June 20 2014 18:58 YouKnowZhou wrote: Yeah, we're gonna have a problem with that then. I generally only use meta when it supports my case, and now that I'm looking at his filter in detention, it looks like the issue here (he forgot that he was townreading 27nb and then voted her for no reason) didn't happen there. I am not making a behavioral analysis on mderg, but it's not exactly a scumslip case either. It's a case based on the fact that his train of thought really does NOT make sense. In Detention Mafia he has some scumtells and some nonsensical things he says, but nothing like this. I do think he's still scum though despite that. I attribute the change in playing style (conversational in Detention, non-conversational here) to World Cup. Doesn't remember anything about mderg's play or even alignment in Detention. Immediately after says he has scumtells. Total lies. Here, he agrees with mderg's accusation of Snickers. On June 20 2014 18:32 YouKnowZhou wrote: Oh man mderg when you refresh the page you're gonna be real surprised. But yeah I like super want to lynch Snickers for that post too. He sees his main scum read give a reasonable read of another scum read, and it gives him no pause. No pause. We need to lynch YKZ today. There's nothing in his play that exonerates what he does. There is no sense in "let's give him more time", because he'll just do what he is trying to pull off today. Lurk for a good 50~60 hours, then pick on someone everyone is suspicious of and deflect the lynch onto them. Ask yourself, what has YKZ done that made you think he is town? Nothing. He is scum. Lynch him. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On June 21 2014 01:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: VE, you feel like BH's case is scum on scum or how do you see it? This is a good question. VE please elaborate. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On June 21 2014 05:10 slOosh wrote: Artanis, why don't you want to vote YKZ? I thought his case was pretty decent. I feel like my reads are utter shit this game though, so just gonna go and sheep you. ##Unvote ##Vote YouKnowZhou | ||
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
##Vote YouKnowZhou I have to go to work and will not be home till after the lynch. This is me consolidating my post. If YKZ flips town, everybody needs to evaluate my points on release. Even if YKZ is mafia i can still see Release being mafia. Also i told someone I would say my reads on VE. Day one he did nothing to help town. I do not even understand how he could think he did something useful. Have not focused on him after day one, but i still think he is not being useful. Also any town that voted for 27nb as their final vote for day one needs to really take a look at release if YKZ flips town. Also after today's lynch if I am still alive, I will look into the voting timings on day one and day two. Day one was very close for mderg being lynched instead of bunnies. I think it was goodkarma that voted 27nb cause his vote was of no use, but if release voted mderg and goodkarma, I think it would have been mderg that got lynched. Also Koshi if you are town try to at least make it seem like you are contributing. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
On June 21 2014 05:28 Koshi wrote: Are you Steveling? No I am not Steveling. Are you Itsimpossibleformetocontributetothisthread. Why would it even matter if I am Steveling. I would hope its not common for people to smurf then admit they are smurfing in game. | ||
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
On June 21 2014 04:28 Chezinu wrote: Love it's all about love and friendship. What do you think about lazermonkey? How do you feel about being spare for the sake of being a replacement? Imo it makes sense to give replacements a full cycle to get into the game and contribute. Let Koshi live for today. What do you think about mderg? | ||
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
On June 21 2014 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I thought his case was pretty decent. I feel like my reads are utter shit this game though, so just gonna go and sheep you. ##Unvote ##Vote YouKnowZhou After I flip, lynch Artanis[Xp] just for this post, honestly. I'd consider him after mderg but before snickers. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
On June 21 2014 05:48 slOosh wrote: Could I get your thoughts on VE please? I was legit gonna just give you a flippant response, because it's hilarious, but you DID say please so I can't let you down. About his activity today, he's mostly posted a large case on Mderg, called me scummy ish, then voted me but not mderg despite my amazing case on mderg, to which he has not actually responded. He also seems to be defending the intelligence of the scumteam (link), which makes me think he could be scum, especially since VE doesn't think I'm smarter than him. He's been unusually unuseful this game, but honestly I consider mderg's earlier shit to be substantially worse. VE is reasonably likely to be shot for bluehunting/vetshooting reasons, so I'd give him another day. I'd vote him if it was him or me of course, but i don't consider him a priority. The other thing that sticks out is him refusing to read me, then giving me a scumread when I'm AFK for a while. Very opportunistic, but honestly VE is not very smart and could have come to that conclusion based on my inactivity. There are plenty of people just voting me because I'm kinda a dick rather than actual scumhunting reasons, which will make it tough to actually catch scum on my wagon if I do end up flipping today. Since mderg wasn't in any real danger of getting lynched over 27nb, the townie, it also ties in with VE's relaxed D1. No need to throw your hat into the ring or give a read on BH if your'e scum and there's a mislynch train rolling. All this though is substantially shakier than the mderg read. Nothing here screams scum, just a few things whispering it. I'd rather we lynch Mderg. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
Vote him. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote: Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait. Vote him. Please be more disconnected about what is happening this day. | ||
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote: Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait. Vote him. As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
This lynch is fucking amazing. | ||
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
On June 21 2014 06:05 VisceraEyes wrote: I like how BH didn't even SAY what he thinks about me in spite of writing two whole paragraphs on it. This lynch is fucking amazing. Not a good lynch today. | ||
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
If you're voting me, treat me as conftown and let's discuss the next lynch. What do you think of mderg? | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote: Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait. Vote him. Could you please explain your reservations of voting for YKZ? | ||
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