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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 00:06 GMT
#1729
I saved myself on N2 you numbnuggets.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 00:09:40
June 30 2014 00:09 GMT
#1731
On June 30 2014 09:08 Release wrote:
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On June 30 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I saved myself on N2 you numbnuggets.

I was fully prepared to make a case on how "Artanis must have saved Release" N2. Never cam to that.

My initial read on you was right. Stupid town consensus townreading you leading to me townreading you as well
Did get you from the grave though! PMed this to Kurumi 30 min before deadline.
Original Message From Artanis[Xp]:
Going with a Koshi/Release scumteam. Honestly hope Koshi is scum more than anything because this'd be a really sad display of his towngame if it is.

Also, is there a scum qt?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 00:11 GMT
#1735
On June 30 2014 09:09 Blazinghand wrote:
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On June 30 2014 09:09 slOosh wrote:
Thank you Kurumi and OnceKing for hosting the game. It had a very managable post count and civil for the most part. Very nice.

Ok I need to do some serious debriefing right now.


yeah here you go I got debriefing for you: how about we don't exclusively lynch people who have greenchecks on them

How about listening to the superobvtown who is strongly defending your scumread and trying to get someone you also scumread lynched which would've led to VE not dying and Koshi getting lynched?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 00:14 GMT
#1741
On June 30 2014 09:11 Release wrote:
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On June 30 2014 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:08 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I saved myself on N2 you numbnuggets.

I was fully prepared to make a case on how "Artanis must have saved Release" N2. Never cam to that.

My initial read on you was right. Stupid town consensus townreading you leading to me townreading you as well
Did get you from the grave though! PMed this to Kurumi 30 min before deadline.
Original Message From Artanis[Xp]:
Going with a Koshi/Release scumteam. Honestly hope Koshi is scum more than anything because this'd be a really sad display of his towngame if it is.

Also, is there a scum qt?

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/a7jPbWLJHBhW

Let me one up you. I called Artanis medic on N1.

Hm, what made you think I was doc?
On June 30 2014 09:12 Koshi wrote:
Who did you safe on N1 Artanis?

I saved GK until 30 min before deadline when I switched to SlOosh even though my townread on him was weaker just because I thought he was more likely to get shot.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 00:20 GMT
#1748
On June 30 2014 09:17 Release wrote:
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On June 30 2014 09:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:11 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:08 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I saved myself on N2 you numbnuggets.

I was fully prepared to make a case on how "Artanis must have saved Release" N2. Never cam to that.

My initial read on you was right. Stupid town consensus townreading you leading to me townreading you as well
Did get you from the grave though! PMed this to Kurumi 30 min before deadline.
Original Message From Artanis[Xp]:
Going with a Koshi/Release scumteam. Honestly hope Koshi is scum more than anything because this'd be a really sad display of his towngame if it is.

Also, is there a scum qt?

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/a7jPbWLJHBhW

Let me one up you. I called Artanis medic on N1.

Hm, what made you think I was doc?
On June 30 2014 09:12 Koshi wrote:
Who did you safe on N1 Artanis?

I saved GK until 30 min before deadline when I switched to SlOosh even though my townread on him was weaker just because I thought he was more likely to get shot.

You attacked me and reconsidered. I felt that a VT would have gone ham and probed for information (like Snickers, who actually turned out to be Detective) for longer than 1 post before changing their mind.

I don't think my role was related to that honestly. I noticed a town consensus against it and felt my read wasn't strong enough to continue, but I might be biased in it. I've changed my opinions a lot this game.

On D1 I decided to go for a different style this time. Usually I just spout all my reads into the thread but I tried asking questions more now to see who had similar thought processes as me. Landed me a townread on GK, but eventually I just fell back into my usual routine after D1

I felt the VE and Lazer lynches were easily avoidable. VE played to his current town meta to a tee and BH should be ashamed of lynching him. Lazer shit townie bricks on D4 whereas Koshi went afk and I can't believe you guys lynched Lazer over Koshi that day.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 00:23 GMT
#1752
10v3 is standard Koshi, 4 mislynches vs 3 correct lynches is pretty normal in minis.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 00:25 GMT
#1755
On June 30 2014 09:24 Koshi wrote:
That's really though on mafia.

I don't have the numbers but I'm quite sure mafia has a winning record in a standard 10v3 setup.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 00:27 GMT
#1758
On June 30 2014 09:26 Koshi wrote:
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On June 30 2014 09:25 slOosh wrote:
Man I played like garbage huh?

Like I don't even know what to take away from this game. Trust greenchecks more?

Don't lynch people with high post count.

24nb has a bigger filter than me and she died D1.

She had a high post count in Cell Mini II too though and she was scum there. Filter length isn't a scumtell for her. I'm not sure how to read her.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 00:39:18
June 30 2014 00:37 GMT
#1761
On June 30 2014 09:36 goodkarma wrote:
Told ya Release was good chance of being scum lol.

Also, policy lynching BH if he ever plays in any game I'm in again.

Fixed that for you.
+ Show Spoiler +
<3
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 01:35 GMT
#1765
On June 30 2014 10:34 Snickers wrote:
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On June 19 2014 04:51 Snickers wrote:
You are an idiot or scum if you can't "see" the scum in mderg's first post. First off saying there is a chance you are only going to contribute one post to day one. This shows his terrible interest in this game. Then he tries to say he votes to prevent mod kill. Id rather him be modkilled than him help lynch someone because he felt a slight scum. You guys must have played so many games of mafia you cannot think logically. You have these rules that you hold so highly. Even if these rules were true you guys cannot even use them right. So assuming they are true they still are no use. And somebody mentioned something about release. If you can't see the scum in his post there is a problem or you are scum.

I cannot believe no one mentioned this aspect of this game. 27nb had the same principles in her posts from the start. Confused, emotional, silly. So has ykz. Cocky , deceiving, focused. We know 27nb was town. If ykz is mafia he is very good at it. Even after the proof that he was wrong or was lying. He perfectly continues his principals after the lynch. Release on the other hand had been inconsistent with his principals. He seems aggressive than passive.
Reactionary than static. I think it should be looked into. I won't be able to post or read until six hours from now. I will look at be (whoever name keeps getting mentioned).

Also koshi seems to be obsessed with me. I am thinking him as third mafia.

And on top of that, at least i did not get mislynched.

The main reason for that was mderg vote switching on you last minute and then flipping scum though. That's what made everyone read town on you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 01:41 GMT
#1766
Also, what matters not is who you say you're reading as scum, but who you actually voted for. Day 1 you were right. Day 2 you were on YKZ over mderg. Day 3 you were on VE over Koshi. Day 4 you were on Lazer over Monkey. You had the correct reads on the start of D2, yet your voting record is voting for 3 townies vs 1 scum.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 01:52:24
June 30 2014 01:51 GMT
#1769
On June 30 2014 10:46 Snickers wrote:
Art stop hating on me. Day one I was right. Ok that does not matter. It is a team game. I voted ykz to consolidate not because he was my top scum read, and on top of that, having him out of the way would prob of been beneficial since everyone wasted so much time on him. Day 3 Ve made himself look way to scummy. Day 4 Lazer over Monkey? You mean Lazer over Koshi?( I dont remember 100%) But it probably did not matter since it seemed like most people peaced. It would have been alot better to lynch release over koshi but it still would of been 4v3.

Point is, you're harping on about how good your reads is but your votes which are the only thing that matter at the end of the day don't line up to it. VE was not too scummy. I saw he was town, which means you could've too. Yeah, I meant Lazer over Koshi and yes it did matter. There was no reason not to lynch Koshi.

My complaint is that you're bragging about having correct reads when you didn't vote according to them, and it was only in one phase of the game. I feel you did not play a good game. You were a potential mislynch target that got saved because of circumstance, and that voted according to mob mentality rather than attempting to push your strongest reads, presuming those three were still your strongest reads. Your influence on town was weak because of it. My annoyance comes from the feeling that you're tooting your own horn a bit too much here.
On June 30 2014 10:49 Snickers wrote:
Another reason I voted Lazer was because even if he was not scum, I thought this town would naturally lynch release and we would not be screwed. Release played this town so hard with his first post but no one even realized how "made up" it was after me pointing out multiple times. All I can say about your play is at least you did not get mislynched.

Are you honestly saying you think you played a better game than me?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 02:15 GMT
#1772
Taking it to PMs.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 03:04 GMT
#1779
I wonder if anyone knows why I read Chez as confirmed town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 03:17 GMT
#1785
On June 30 2014 12:08 Release wrote:
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On June 30 2014 12:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I wonder if anyone knows why I read Chez as confirmed town.

Please elaborate. I thought it was this post?

It was this post. Can you tell why?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 03:29:29
June 30 2014 03:27 GMT
#1788
On June 30 2014 12:25 Snickers wrote:
Can I get multiple views on this.

Did I claim role at the right time? I think one of the criteria is be confirmed town. I will also try to bread crumb better.

Your claim timing was fine. You don't need to be confirmed town to claim. All you have to do is be convincing. Breadcrumbs are okay I guess but I don't bother with them myself. I feel that if I'm in a position where I need to claim I can prove it's real anyway, and it's always possible to forge fake breadcrumbs later out of posts you've made if you were scum.
On June 30 2014 12:26 Chezinu wrote:
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On June 30 2014 12:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:08 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I wonder if anyone knows why I read Chez as confirmed town.

Please elaborate. I thought it was this post?

It was this post. Can you tell why?


Johnny Cash is a good answer, but not the answer I'm looking for!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 03:38 GMT
#1792
On June 30 2014 12:35 Chezinu wrote:
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On June 30 2014 12:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:25 Snickers wrote:
Can I get multiple views on this.

Did I claim role at the right time? I think one of the criteria is be confirmed town. I will also try to bread crumb better.

Your claim timing was fine. You don't need to be confirmed town to claim. All you have to do is be convincing. Breadcrumbs are okay I guess but I don't bother with them myself. I feel that if I'm in a position where I need to claim I can prove it's real anyway, and it's always possible to forge fake breadcrumbs later out of posts you've made if you were scum.
On June 30 2014 12:26 Chezinu wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:08 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I wonder if anyone knows why I read Chez as confirmed town.

Please elaborate. I thought it was this post?

It was this post. Can you tell why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go

Johnny Cash is a good answer, but not the answer I'm looking for!

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On August 26 2012 07:39 Chezinu wrote:


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PALMAAAAAARRR!!!!!!!! WHY!!!!!!! PALMAR!!!!!!!

I'll spoil you. I was sure you were town when your first response to a VE lynch was looking at the votes and calling me scum. I knew scum shot me the night before so for a scum Chezinu have the first reaction to a town lynch be to check the votes and call someone they just shot scum was inconceivably unlikely to me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2014 11:31 GMT
#1800
On June 30 2014 15:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
gg all. Sorry for being a stupid idiot who can't play the game. I can assure you that you don't have to worry about me ruining your experience anymore.

VE pls no
I loved playing with you as always and I'd hate to see you stop playing.
On June 30 2014 19:24 marvellosity wrote:
hey Artanis, where's my shout-out? :>

Thanks marv for letting me bitch at you post mortem!
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