Detention Mafia

On May 28 2014 02:09 slOosh wrote:
Seems straightforward.

##Vote: jabberwockzerg

On May 28 2014 03:01 slOosh wrote:

How is it straightforward for you when you dismissed the whole thing as meta?

On May 28 2014 07:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

*sigh* I hate when people say this. Dude, always vote for who you think is scummiest. Lynching for information comes off as a scum setting up their justification for when the lynched person flips green. If you don't want him dead because you think he's scum then you shouldn't be voting for him.

On May 28 2014 01:24 mderg wrote:
I don´t like this lynch at all. I don´t see what he did as alignment indicative because it doesn´t really make sense as either town or scum You could cut out that whole bit and still be saying the same thing. So why is it more likely to be done by scum than by town? all this says is that you don't see it as alignment indicative


fuba: Weren´t you against this lynch? Why the vote on jabberwockzerg now? Says nothing regarding the case, just a general appeal to consistency aimed at fuba.

On May 28 2014 01:45 mderg wrote:
Well, I don´t think his lie makes him scum. I honestly think scum would think more carefully about lying like that. This is WIFOM, I have behaved relying on this sentiment as scum I mean everyone who was on his scum team would have known he lied no matter what. And could have been either equally unaware or simply unaware of his intent and therefore too late once he did lie. So even if he didn´t know the scum team was made public, it would have been easy to see that he was lying. Scumteam wants lies in the thread

On May 28 2014 02:19 mderg wrote:

Right now I´d go with you because I didn´t like how you changed your opinion on jabber but didn´t bother to explain the reason for that until you were asked.

On May 28 2014 02:42 mderg wrote:


Are you asking about why it´s bad play or why i think it´s not scummy but bad play?

I´l answer both


I don´t think that makes him scum because even considering that he missed the alignments of the last game being published it´s not unlikely to be figured out that he lied. Based on what? If it was truly unknown who the scumteam is, what makes you think we're so badass that we would uncover him? BH is hosting, not playing, this game. Unless he is scum with amiko or somehow knows that amiko won´t notice it there is quite a huge risk of the lie being discovered. This is the strongest point in favor of JWZ and it still falls to this WIFOM: amiko actually beig scum with him and bussing, JWZ simply not accounting for that and assuming Host rerolled the same scumteam for the WIFOMZ, even setting up his own bus- I did that too one game.

WIFOM is deep

Why it´s bad play should be obvious with the situation he´s in right now. It makes him suspicious which he doesn´t want as either alignment.

On May 28 2014 06:33 mderg wrote:

I don´t think his followup posts were as scummy as most people here make it sound.


this post seems honest to me. I don´t think anyone would make this defense, if it wasn´t actually the truth. It´s just too far of from anything I would have expected as defense.



this is the post most people seem to see as the strongest scumtell.
I don´t agree with his reasoning for withholding information but being wrong doesn´t make you scum. Although I agree that this post looks kinda bad it´s not like townies never make strange plays like this.


Overall it´s just strange how almost everyone jumps on the wagon. IMO most lynches like this end up being wrong.

I´d like to see a bit more from jabber. If he gives some more reads and defends himself a bit more, it might be clearer whether this was just a misstep or actually a scumslip. Right now I´m not convinced that it´s a scumslip, though.

On May 28 2014 08:45 Palmar wrote:
MZ not everyone in the game is mafia. fuba and haru look bad, jwz is your most likely scumread and you could get behind a lynch on me, and now you're telling sqrtofneg1 that he might be mafia, while in the same breath explaining to him how he can get you to drop your "suspicion".

Welcome to my scum tier.

On May 28 2014 09:59 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Slam, what do you think of Amiko so far?

On May 28 2014 11:49 27ninjabunnies wrote:


You should really start quoting people...or atleast putting an @.

Also, in high school, i was in spanish class, and me and a guy friend of mine got super bored, so we started creating a story about bunnies. Then they turned out to be ninjas. Etc.

It was an elaborate story that had me as a dictator raising an army of ninja bunnies to take over the world.

I also had an army of evil squirrels that did my dirty work.

So when i started playing xbox heavily, he thought it would be smart to do 26ninjabunnies (the 26 being the day I was born) and so i went with it.

Then when i started playing mafia (first starting on epicmafia) i had it there, but someone hacked into my account and deleted it, so i just upped my number from 26 to 27, and have stuck with it ever since.

Though this has nothing to do with the game.

On May 28 2014 13:00 HaruRH wrote:
Sqrt is always questioning for some reason or the other.

Chromatically is a town read for me.

Only mderg with his weird explanations seem to be a possible scumread.

On May 28 2014 13:00 Alakaslam wrote:

los conejos muy malo.

Esta en el rancho de mi papa, matalo

mas a milquimientos.

hablas espanol verdad? En la classe?

On May 29 2014 01:15 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Hi, I'm back.
I think we need to get a secondary wagon going.
Thoughts?

On May 29 2014 03:00 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Well, not really.
i = √-1

On May 29 2014 02:47 slOosh wrote:

Thoughts on the Palmar - MZ interactions?

On May 29 2014 05:11 Chromatically wrote:
I've read through everyone's filter and I still think jabber is the best lynch today.

Other people I don't like are sqrt, MZ, and fuba.

On May 30 2014 02:52 slOosh wrote:



???

On May 30 2014 12:41 Amiko wrote:
@Alakaslam:
Two questions:



(1) What does the second post mean? I assume "wise" is a person but I don't know who.

wtf it says United States over your avatar?

In English "wise" means having te ability to correctly use and discern knowledge. So I am tossing in with the things I have said about mderg the opinion that he is wise




(2) Could you answer this one? I'm not sure what you were referring to as far as agreeing

i mean we have been thinking the same thing on a lot of people. Hard to scumread you for that

On May 30 2014 16:23 HaruRH wrote:


So... why? Care to elaborate?

On May 30 2014 23:13 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Back.
Too bad chrom died.

I'm a bit busy atm, be back soon.

On May 31 2014 04:28 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

??

On June 01 2014 10:16 Amiko wrote:
I actually feel bad for scum right now.

(Okay the moment passed)

I'm gonna go get groceries, you can talk about how cool I am for when I get back though.

On June 02 2014 04:59 Amiko wrote:
@Slam:

Haru wants to lynch
"everyone on sloosh's 'death list'"

If you look at slOosh's death list, would you list each player Haru wants to lynch?

On June 02 2014 06:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

It was funny that sloosh wanted gobbles pressured, even though gobbles was his teammate. I think that an M_Z lynch is justifiable.

As for Haru's post, I'm in agreement with it. I think we should lynch MZ.

On June 02 2014 09:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
if alakaslam doesn't die he's scum.

On June 02 2014 16:15 Amiko wrote:
Bedtime for me pretty soon.



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It's not a terrible point, but I don't think it is compelling.

There's a couple reasons, but to me the easiest to explain is that something which "confirms him as town unless he's lying" really isn't any confirmation at all.
I mean, by this standard, if you tell me that you are town, that confirms you as town (unless you are lying).

Anyway, Slam isn't my top town but I feel like you could do better if you tried.

I feel the best defense for M_Z (which he didn't offer) is this:
If M_Z and slOosh are both scum, it means that M_Z is roleblocker. When M_Z and slOosh were the lynch candidates, you would think scum would prefer to lynch slOosh (goon) over M_Z (roleblocker). Instead, slOosh made a post which was (apparently) compelling and started to move people toward M_Z over slOosh.

I don't find that to be sufficient.

##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh

We still have a day I think, so for the living please don't be lazy and talk about each other.
Sheeping me isn't particularly helpful since M_Z is the major wagon anyway; if you think M_Z isn't the lynch or someone else is better, we should talk about it sooner rather than later.

On June 03 2014 09:17 Palmar wrote:
Do I have to care?

On June 04 2014 16:20 HaruRH wrote:
Sqrt:

What is your rationale for moving off fuba after d1?
Any strong reasons why?
Who are your top 2 scum reads now?

Amiko:

Who is your top 2 scum reads now? Why?
Who is your top 2 town reads? Why?
Who will you push on d4?

Alakaslam:

Try to answer this in the most non-troll way possible:
What is the reason for posting lazily like this on d3?

Fuba:

Any defenses to my claim?


I hope to read these responses even if I die this night, such that I can have a better read.

On June 05 2014 06:49 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

Yay! Join the firebats.