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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 05 2014 01:23 GMT
#1121
Hijolechupazialakaslamfishchupizzle for the bamcis andalepues Órrale

HIJOLE vato Wei

Y u break curse of Alakaslam gg
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 05 2014 01:24 GMT
#1122
I do think saving Haru n2 is crazy though :p

I felt sure scum would kill someone who voted for slOosh, and since I had been raising points on Haru I figured he would be a good target to mislynch (so wouldn't be killed)

Maaaaan I died N2 things would be crazy :s
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 05 2014 01:25 GMT
#1123
EBWOP: If I died

Anyway sqrt, you and I should take a look at mderg too, I think we're in pretty good shape though.
(Haru you too)
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
June 05 2014 01:29 GMT
#1124
On June 05 2014 10:24 Amiko wrote:
I do think saving Haru n2 is crazy though :p

I felt sure scum would kill someone who voted for slOosh, and since I had been raising points on Haru I figured he would be a good target to mislynch (so wouldn't be killed)

Maaaaan I died N2 things would be crazy :s

I had mad townreads on haru though. And I thought I couldn't save you again.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
June 05 2014 01:30 GMT
#1125
On June 05 2014 10:25 Amiko wrote:
EBWOP: If I died

Anyway sqrt, you and I should take a look at mderg too, I think we're in pretty good shape though.
(Haru you too)

I like mderg. I think he's town.
Genuinely trying to figure the game out.
Imaginary
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 05 2014 02:13 GMT
#1126
Oh yeah (for incentives)

##Vote: Palmar
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 05 2014 05:26 GMT
#1127
Hahaha so I got baited by amiko huh

##vote:palmar
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 05 2014 05:32 GMT
#1128
On June 05 2014 10:29 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 10:24 Amiko wrote:
I do think saving Haru n2 is crazy though :p

I felt sure scum would kill someone who voted for slOosh, and since I had been raising points on Haru I figured he would be a good target to mislynch (so wouldn't be killed)

Maaaaan I died N2 things would be crazy :s

I had mad townreads on haru though. And I thought I couldn't save you again.


Yea sqrt and I were thinking about the same thing usually, I townread sqrt actually.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 05 2014 05:41 GMT
#1129
Either way we will win during lylo or today.
If mderg is confirmed town (he got rb but he could have lied), then this game is over. Either palmar or fuba is our mafia. Kill palmar. Then fuba.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2014 07:14 GMT
#1130
I'm not blue and I'm town.
Computer says mafia
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 05 2014 07:37 GMT
#1131
I´m VT.

Since there are no counterclaims there´s no reason to doubt your claims. With 3 confirmed town and me also being town it only leaves Palmar and fuba.

##vote: Palmar
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2014 08:48 GMT
#1132
On June 05 2014 16:37 mderg wrote:
I´m VT.

Since there are no counterclaims there´s no reason to doubt your claims. With 3 confirmed town and me also being town it only leaves Palmar and fuba.

##vote: Palmar


Actually, you and fuba have to make an actual case for why I must be mafia.

The other guys are confirmed so there's no point in questioning their motives.

So try again please.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2014 09:34 GMT
#1133
On June 05 2014 10:13 fuba wrote:
##Vote: Palmar

I can agree with the first half of the lynch list XD


You too.

Case please.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2014 09:35 GMT
#1134
Before I read the other two guys, I'm going to explain why I am not mafia. I just find it so much more fun to read stuff by myself than stuff by others. I am an entertaining person.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2014 09:50 GMT
#1135
On May 27 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 18:41 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 27 2014 18:40 Palmar wrote:
On May 27 2014 18:36 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 27 2014 18:34 Palmar wrote:
Ninjabunnies is mafia, I'm going to vote him. Then I'm going to read another page of the game.

##Vote Ninjabunnies

it's because he wrote "XD"


??? Did you become crazy after getting ##Nuked in that other game?


Do you not think this is a valid case? At least you have to explain to me why you disagree. I think it's a pretty strong case. I should add that I combine it with the "ugh" from his first post, oh and his plea that "can we now hunt some scum?".

Seems pretty ironclad to me.


No I don't think that's a valid case, I think you're trolling.


I'm not, why do you think I'm trolling.

Granted, I'm only about 2 pages or so into the game as we speak, + skimming Ninja's filter. But I feel pretty good about this. Could you elaborate on why you think I'm trolling? Or at least if there is something you don't understand in my case, ask for an explanation?



First of all, this conversation alone should be enough to convince you I'm town. There is literally no reason for me to act like an idiot and try to create a case that I have no intention of pushing as mafia. Not to mention the person who actually started arguing with me over it ended up being mafia too.

If I was mafia I would probably not randomly attack townies without a good reason, as you need townies on your side. It should be clear to anyone that I did not intend to lynch NB.

Hell even if you think I had any intention of killing her, why would I back off later:

On May 28 2014 01:50 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 01:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 01:14 jabberwockzerg wrote:
On May 27 2014 20:59 Chromatically wrote:
Also, read this whole page again: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=5

bunnies starts by (presumably) joking about me being scum, not a serious push as evidenced by not voting.

On May 27 2014 11:19 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Both of you make a fair point, but I agree with bunnies.
If he's lurking (he probably is) he'll be quick to post something, which we can further use as more information comes to light

This is jabber's passive-agressive response. "he probably is" heavily implies that jabber has a strong scumread on me, which clearly doesn't make sense given that I've made one completely non-alignment indicative post. From a scum perspective, it makes sense for jabber to try to go with the flow of the thread and throw suspicion on me, but accidentally take it too far.

On May 27 2014 11:20 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Counter point: he could have been super into last game because he was mafia, and isn't as into being vanilla town.

On May 27 2014 11:21 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Definitely leaving towards scum though

Again, here he makes it seem as if he strongly thinks I'm scum, which just doesn't make sense unless he has a preset idea of what he wants to push my alignment as.

Lovely.
I was trying to get the game moving along, I was pretty pumped to start interrogating and scum reading, which isn't how I acted last game, when I was scum.
Lying about who was scum last game, I was trying to conceal information. I didn't realize that last game's roles were known, it would be beneficial for me if no one knew I was Mafia, just because there would be no real patterns of my play, and I could remain a wild card, which I thought could help me later.



Help you as town or as generating the lower tabby?

And if as town, how would the concealing of this information be helpful to you?


I like this guy now.

No longer mafia.


I joined the jabber lynch for obvious reasons. I still think that was the right thing to do. In fact I think killing MZ for playing awfully was also the right thing to do. It's really annoying to play with townies who don't want to put effort into the game.

Also, if I'm mafia I've been basically half-bussing my team for the entire game. What is the end-game here for me? If I'm mafia I'd have known we had a medic and a cop, it's insane for me to start calling my teammates mafia right away.

On May 30 2014 05:07 Palmar wrote:
Other things.

i looks slightly less good, but I still think he's town.
Ninja too, I feel like her activity is dropping, or I'm not noticing much useful come out of her.
Chrom looked really good yesterday.
Amiko looks pretty town for now. He thinks I'm town for the right reasons. (This is important, mafia members know I'm town, he seems to have figured out that I'm town by actually reading the thread and analyzing it). If you ever clear this guy, follow him. He seems to be really good, but I hope he's really good town, not really good mafia
mderg has that one post that screams town (I hope he's mafia so I can be like super impressed ). I'm going with town for him
fuba looks better than I initially thought, he's sort of null-ish to me now, but I'd not lynch him tomorrow. I liked how he responded to me erroneously calling him out, so I'm backing slightly off on scumread. But he's still in the bottom half of the table.
sloosh is just meh. I have no idea tbh.
Slam is also meh. Both of them (sloosh and slam) are good cop checks. This is the first game I've actually thought to myself "slam looks sorta townie here", so that's making me nervous, as I fully admit I can't read the guy.
MZ is mafia
gobbley I don't know. I thought he was town at first, but he had really low content last time I checked his filter. So idk.

Lynch MZ tomorrow, pressure sloosh, fuba, gobbley. Slam or any of the previously mentioned are pretty good checks.

Also because most of you haven't played with me before. I usually super miss one mafia. So don't follow my reads blindly even if they give you 1-2 mafia.


Another point here:

On June 01 2014 08:54 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 08:43 Amiko wrote:
Please explain this (Palmar & fuba):

How do you not vote slOosh when nearly everything suspicious about M_Z also applies to slOosh, plus slOosh is scummier in other ways?

@Palmar:
You should also join my lynch on slOosh because fuba's play today is weird and he is pushing M_Z - if you don't see that I can argue about it.


I think fuba is town, I don't care if his play is weird.

This sloosh lynch is going too easily. We should do MZ.


If I'm mafia, why am I defending fuba, who is (at the time and still is) the most likely person for town to get behind lynching. It doesn't make any sense.

On May 30 2014 16:23 Palmar wrote:
I think I could throw my weight behind a sloosh vote.

I have a feeling the mafia team is sloosh, MZ, Gobbley


Again the busing thing.

Why would I do this if I'm mafia. Knowing we have a cop I'd also know the chances of me being checked are really really high. If I just bus my entire team there is no endgame for me.

Also fuck you guys for saying I'm mafia because I actually had 2/3 of the team on day 2. My only problem is that I had an asshole townie who didn't want to play the game and that confused me.

Regarding lazy on MZ lynch day

I don't see how this has anything to do with my alignment. Hell, if I am mafia I would like to think I'd actually have continued playing on that day, mostly because I'd have known this was a mislynch and I needed some continuation strategy. What I did instead was to fuck off and leave no strategy for myself as mafia.

So please, heads out of asses, I'm not the mafia we're looking for.



Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2014 09:50 GMT
#1136
So mderg vs fuba.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2014 09:52 GMT
#1137
Adding to my rant above, I think I've called just about everyone alive except slam town, so why on earth would I be shooting slam this night?
Computer says mafia
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 05 2014 10:04 GMT
#1138
On June 05 2014 18:34 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 10:13 fuba wrote:
##Vote: Palmar

I can agree with the first half of the lynch list XD


You too.

Case please.


I doubt we need a case now to choose who is mafia. Given that amiko and sqrt are not lying (no counterclaims by anyone, thus they both shouldn't be lying) and given that amiko proves I am VT, this creates a bubble of town around us 3 and anyone else have the remote chance of being mafia. There is no way that either of us 4 (other than sqrt and amiko) will die this night since unless they kill off both of them, tomorrow will be their funeral.

mderg have the chance of being mafia, but we can discuss this tomorrow when we choose between fuba and mderg. So far, even though I recognise that fuba is a better lynch target, we still need to lynch you as more people suspect you as mafia over others.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2014 10:05 GMT
#1139
Okay, before I start re-reading mderg, here's the reason I cleared him back on day 1:

On May 28 2014 22:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 22:07 mderg wrote:
On May 28 2014 11:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 10:59 Chromatically wrote:
this is quite possibly the finest scumhunting tl has seen in ages


Hey im scumhunting....

So im thinking,

Team for mafia:

Jabber/Sqrt/mderg

Or

Jabber/palmer/mderg

Something like that,

Id lynch both jabber and mderg though

I don´t get how defending jabber like I did would make any sense, if we were both scum. That would be like the worst mafia play ever. Me being scum only makes sense, if jabber flips town. I could see mafia reasons for that. But hard defending a scummate who will almost certainly be lynched anyway doesn´t seem like scum play.


*clap clap*

I hope you're mafia because if you are this post is amazing.

I'm giving you a townread for this.


To explain why I thought this looks super townie, and I still do.

Note the timing of his post. This is at the height of me doubting myself on the jabber lynch. mderg posted this shortly after I wrote my "too scummy to be scum" explanation for my hesitation.

This post makes mderg town because of his intentions (note you also have to check him out actually doing the defending). These are the possibilities:

1. mderg mafia/jabber mafia
2. mderg mafia/jabber town
3. mderg town/jabber mafia
4. mderg town/jabber town

The ones we're interested in eliminating are 1 and 2, if we want to reduce the chances of mderg being mafia.

1) Mderg explains it in the post himself. If he is mafia and knows jabber will flip mafia, why on earth is he hard defending someone who will almost certainly be lynched anyway. It makes absolutely no sense from a mafia perspective. I don't think mderg is capable of this meta play. Obviously we now know that this scenario also wasn't true, because jabber flipped town.

2) Mderg also addresses this, but he does it in a very particular way, I'll quote him: "Me being scum only makes sense, if jabber flips town. I could see mafia reasons for that." I hope I'm not the only one who noticed that if mderg is mafia, he made a super ballsy play of literally planting the idea that he may be mafia based on something he already knew would come true. Hell townies don't like to claim they might be mafia, mafia absolutely hates doing it. It's really, really hard for me to believe that mderg would be capable of such an advanced mafia play. There is a really good reason I said this:

On May 28 2014 22:09 Palmar wrote:
I hope you're mafia because if you are this post is amazing.


I almost stand by that. This single post would be very, very impressive mafia play if mderg is mafia.

I'm writing this to set a baseline. I need to go back and read why I at one point said fuba is town. I don't quite remember that as well as this mderg post.

When I know why I called fuba town, I might do their filters, but no idea how much I'll be able to accomplish today. I'll do it before the deadline though.
Computer says mafia
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 05 2014 10:07 GMT
#1140
At that point in time, slosh and gobble were the huge suspects for scum. It is wise to quickly cut off all ties with them to protect the remaining scum, that is the mafia rb. It would be a bad mafia play to not do these that you mentioned - if you didn't do them, you're scumread.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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