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##Vote: TheKingofCats
Disclaimer: this may well change (so far I looked at ritoky, MZ, kingofcats)
It seems from his intro post that he has at least played mafia a bit before. And his signature suggests this too. So I'm not going to give him a pass for weird things based on newishness. He made a couple of references to "filter diving", one which is quite odd
On June 12 2014 02:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Ohh, things have occurred in the time it took me to type that up. Looks like i have to do some more filter diving.
Like in the 5-10 minutes it took him to write up a post, a couple of pages of thread went by? That doesn't mean more filter diving, that just means reading the thread. It's odd.
His whole rationale for voting batsnacks comes across as really superficial.
On June 12 2014 02:02 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Not liking Batsnacks atm. His reasons for voting Roundabound are "i don't like hydras" and "He called someone by their nickname" and when Roundabound pointed out his second reason made no sense (Round called someone by their nickname. Calling someone by a nickname is a scum tactic apparently. Therefore Round is scum. A train of thought so wrong i have trouble believing it came naturally as town) he just dismissed it.
Really anyone with a passing acquaintance with mafia know that scum aren't very likely to give randomly bad or jokey reasons for someone being mafia. Especially as it was like right after the game started (as batsnacks pointed out)
On June 12 2014 02:51 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 02:41 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 02:39 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 12 2014 02:18 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 02:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Ohh, things have occurred in the time it took me to type that up. Looks like i have to do some more filter diving. Explain to me why batsnacks is scum. He posted 4 red names and 3 FoS in a 5 scum game. Most scum stick to 1 scumread. Maybe 2. I rarely see scum fake 7 scumreads with almost no reasoning. Because of the terrible and illogical nature of some of his reads. Do you think the terrible and illogical is the preserve of only one faction...? There's terrible and there's terrible and i don't see honest townie idiocy in Bat's read of Round.
But you do think that a mafia would genuinely try to lynch someone for using mafia nicknames as a scum tactic? Really? In what world do mafia ever do this?
On June 12 2014 03:04 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 02:54 TicaTica wrote:On June 12 2014 02:51 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 12 2014 02:41 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 02:39 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 12 2014 02:18 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 02:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Ohh, things have occurred in the time it took me to type that up. Looks like i have to do some more filter diving. Explain to me why batsnacks is scum. He posted 4 red names and 3 FoS in a 5 scum game. Most scum stick to 1 scumread. Maybe 2. I rarely see scum fake 7 scumreads with almost no reasoning. Because of the terrible and illogical nature of some of his reads. Do you think the terrible and illogical is the preserve of only one faction...? There's terrible and there's terrible and i don't see honest townie idiocy in Bat's read of Round. I am not understanding this. I be find Batsnacks scum but have specific doubt related to newness and terribleness. Why are you so certain of this read? He says that using nicknames is a scum tactic to confuse people, something that doesn't make any sense. And then he says that Round is scum because he called someone by their nickname, ignoring the fact that even if the nickname thing is a scum tactic it doesn't automatically make him scum for addressing someone by their nickname. It's wrong on too many levels, at least in my mind.
On June 12 2014 03:35 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 03:06 Chromatically wrote:
Can everyone at least give a read on Koshi and/or explain whether you agree or disagree with the case? Null for now. I need to read through both his and your filters carefully before i can come to a proper conclusion.
such filter diving wow
tldr: I can't find even a glimmer of why this boy is town
I don't believe the push on batsnacks and the reasons presented for it, it feels so superficial - pushing batsnacks for reasons that he can't possibly believe batsnacks is serious about, and it's his only contribution
weirld stilted filter diving references and general lack of cares for the game
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also, no-one, which means no mafia, have really talked about this no-hoper before
this is a good sign
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He sure loves his filters. I am still feeling JAT more.
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On June 12 2014 21:26 marvellosity wrote:
also, no-one, which means no mafia, have really talked about this no-hoper before
this is a good sign
I remember commenting on him.
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really i don't want to see if people agree with me, but if people can tell me reasons why KoC could be town, I'd like to hear them.
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On June 12 2014 21:30 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 21:26 marvellosity wrote:
also, no-one, which means no mafia, have really talked about this no-hoper before
this is a good sign I remember commenting on him.
maybe you did, but i can't remember what you said, which means it wasn't very substantial or important. he's been drifting under the radar quite well for reasons i'm not sure of.
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On June 12 2014 21:26 Koshi wrote:
He sure loves his filters. I am still feeling JAT more.
Yeah, you are always feeling JAT and look like a retard in the process. Almost every game.
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jat i'd much rather you engaged productively with the thread than bitched at koshi.
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On June 12 2014 21:30 marvellosity wrote:
really i don't want to see if people agree with me, but if people can tell me reasons why KoC could be town, I'd like to hear them.
Have none would lynch.
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I totes have my serious hat on now.
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On June 12 2014 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
jat i'd much rather you engaged productively with the thread than bitched at koshi.
But he deserves it and you know it. What would you like me to engage then?
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well there are 6 mafia. i think i may have found one. maybe there is another in my list (honestly i doubt there are more than 2 in the list of 6 i gave).
maybe you could tell me why ketomai and s&b are or are not mafia, why you have reservations, why you don't, same with ritoky, MZ. Or anyone you like.
Anyone can do this actually.
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btw i might give haru a pass for being a little bitch (not calling him a bitch, Sentinel, just that he is currently being one. much difference :p)
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On June 12 2014 21:35 marvellosity wrote:
well there are 6 mafia. i think i may have found one. maybe there is another in my list (honestly i doubt there are more than 2 in the list of 6 i gave).
maybe you could tell me why ketomai and s&b are or are not mafia, why you have reservations, why you don't, same with ritoky, MZ. Or anyone you like.
Anyone can do this actually.
Well first of all I haven't got a townread on any of them and it's not like I haven't already said that. For detailed reasoning I would have to reread. Maybe I will do that soon.
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yes, that's what i was after dear ^_^
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like we need 6 to become 1 or 2. so we need to know why.
for reference i have temporarily discounted ritoky because although i find his "reeks of TMI" stuff really odd, in some way he didn't understand why it was odd and seemed quite angry I didn't understand, and also his posts in plenty of parts seem pretty direct. so maybe he is mafia but maybe also those could be reasons he isn't.
MZ i might still lynch, i had a small gut town reaction when he said "omg how am i below koshi" to palmar's numbers list. and one or two things about he talked to someone, although i've totally forgotten what now. he's still kinda suspicious to me but... meh.
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s&b may not be mafia because all the scummy people like me are voting for him.
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Vote Count - Day 1:
Palmar (0): batsnacks
yamato77 (0): Palmar
roundabound (1): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, batsnacks, Chairman Ray, Bill Murray, Bill Murray, ketomai
sinani206 (0): Chromatically, Tehpoofter
Koshi (2): TicaTica, Tehpoofter, Rainbows, HaruRH, Chromatically, sinani206
TicaTica (0): Koshi
ExO_ (1): sandroba, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta
HolyFlare (0): Tehpoofter, Palmar
Bill Murray (0): roundabound
ketomai (2): ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, Tehpoofter, roundabound
batsnacks (1): Chairman Ray, TheKingOfTheCats, Alakaslam
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Mattisfoolish, Bill Murray, Koshi
tehpoofter (1): Bill Murray, Palmar, VayneAuthority
strongandbig (6): Bill Murray, Palmar, Rainbows, Chairman Ray, ketomai, Alakaslam, HaruRH
Chairman Ray (2): HaruRH, gumshoe, ExO_
Marvellosity (0): Tehpoofter
VayneAuthority (3): yamato77, kushm4sta, Meapak_Ziphh
Chromatically (1): ritoky
ritoky (0): ketomai
kushm4sta (2): ObiWanShinobi, HolyFlare
justanothertownie (1): Koshi, Palmar
ObiWanShinobi (1): TicaTica
TheKingOfTheCats (2): marvellosity, Palmar
Not voting (3): justanothertownie, Erandorr, strongandbig
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On June 12 2014 03:57 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 03:33 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 12 2014 03:17 TicaTica wrote:On June 12 2014 03:04 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 12 2014 02:54 TicaTica wrote:On June 12 2014 02:51 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 12 2014 02:41 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 02:39 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:On June 12 2014 02:18 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 02:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Ohh, things have occurred in the time it took me to type that up. Looks like i have to do some more filter diving. Explain to me why batsnacks is scum. He posted 4 red names and 3 FoS in a 5 scum game. Most scum stick to 1 scumread. Maybe 2. I rarely see scum fake 7 scumreads with almost no reasoning. Because of the terrible and illogical nature of some of his reads. Do you think the terrible and illogical is the preserve of only one faction...? There's terrible and there's terrible and i don't see honest townie idiocy in Bat's read of Round. I am not understanding this. I be find Batsnacks scum but have specific doubt related to newness and terribleness. Why are you so certain of this read? He says that using nicknames is a scum tactic to confuse people, something that doesn't make any sense. And then he says that Round is scum because he called someone by their nickname, ignoring the fact that even if the nickname thing is a scum tactic it doesn't automatically make him scum for addressing someone by their nickname. It's wrong on too many levels, at least in my mind. Those are things that make think less good rather than scum. Why do you find it different? Because he's using an incorrect conclusion based off of an incorrect premise and nothing else to push for someone's lynch while ignoring the people that are questioning that read and giving equally terrible reasons why he thinks other people are scum that make so little sense i have trouble believing they're genuine townie conclusions. It's not just his read on Round but everything he's done since that seems scummy to me. Cats, I said using nicknames was a scum tactic 30 minutes after the game started. I wasn't being serious about that. That isn't why I'm voting roundabout.
Why are you voting Round then? I didn't see you give any other reasons.
On June 12 2014 03:59 batsnacks wrote:
ebwop : Also it would be cool if you had more specific examples instead of just saying "everything he's done since that seems scummy to me."
If literally everything I do is scummy, it shouldn't be that hard for you to find one more example.
I already said what else i thought was scummy about you in my original post.
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