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TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
June 12 2014 13:04 GMT
#1621
On June 12 2014 21:22 marvellosity wrote:

Like in the 5-10 minutes it took him to write up a post, a couple of pages of thread went by? That doesn't mean more filter diving, that just means reading the thread. It's odd.

Batsnacks filter was the first one i read through, hadn't even started on anyone elses.
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
June 12 2014 13:05 GMT
#1622
Kush can you actually post something useful instead of just begging for votes?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 12 2014 13:09 GMT
#1623
SnB:
On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum

I don't like this post.
Palmar not trying is not scummy. SnB puts suspicion in Rainbows for the scumread on Koshi while he does the same (and his reasoning is not very detailed either).
Says Koshi is scum but likes his reasoning for Tica being scum (I disagree).

Has done nothing else except for complaining.

We can definitely kill that guy. I see nothing towny here and if you compare his filter to YOSO you will see that he is much townier there.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 13:11 GMT
#1624
s&b was definitely much townier in YOSO. He was actually really town there despite getting lynched on day 1.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 13:16 GMT
#1625
incidentally YOSO also shows that Koshi is capable of making and believing really terrible cases on day 1 as town. just throwin that out there.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
June 12 2014 13:19 GMT
#1626
On June 12 2014 16:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 16:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 12 2014 16:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 12 2014 15:59 Holyflare wrote:
On June 12 2014 15:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
hey, you pointed out my hypocrisy. i guess youve earned an answer then.

i think your push on kush is really shallow and it makes me feel like ive missed something. kind of like last game. lots of your pushes were based on people not doing things and they really bothered me because its an easy agenda for scum to push.

but you were town so what do i know.


how do i read thread someone help


glob glob glob lets talk in a circle


sure okay.

So do you actually think HF is scum?


nah, im making fun of him.

So you think HF is town yet you unvoted Kush citing HF's reasons being shallow (and presumably scummy because of that) despite the fact that his reasons were exactly the same as yours? Explain.
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 12 2014 13:19 GMT
#1627
Ketomai:

Weird start with the voting but not alignment indicative I think.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote:
Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.

Scummy post. Unwarranted martyring.

He then promises one content post and delivers this:
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls.


I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic.

Top votes:

Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia.

Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player.

Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him.

strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town.

ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying).

Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense.

MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read.


Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out.

I don't really know if I think this post on it's own is towny enough to let him survive day1. Since he already announced that this will be all we get from him today. I think it is quite weird how he adds reads on MZ and roundabout that say nothing while leaving most of the players out of this post. Why include them? Also a completely non-committal read on SnB.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 12 2014 13:20 GMT
#1628
On June 12 2014 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
incidentally YOSO also shows that Koshi is capable of making and believing really terrible cases on day 1 as town. just throwin that out there.

I know. That's why I am not calling him scum right now.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 12 2014 13:21 GMT
#1629
Hmm, KotCs returns when votes arrive. Coincidence?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 13:22 GMT
#1630
I'm willing to believe it was coincidence.

I wish he would address the meat of my case though (ergo, surely he cannot believe that mafia would genuinely try to use the silly reasons batsnacks did to try to lynch someone). I want that rationalised.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 13:27 GMT
#1631
On June 12 2014 22:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ketomai:

Weird start with the voting but not alignment indicative I think.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote:
Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.

Scummy post. Unwarranted martyring.

He then promises one content post and delivers this:
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls.


I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic.

Top votes:

Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia.

Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player.

Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him.

strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town.

ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying).

Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense.

MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read.


Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out.

I don't really know if I think this post on it's own is towny enough to let him survive day1. Since he already announced that this will be all we get from him today. I think it is quite weird how he adds reads on MZ and roundabout that say nothing while leaving most of the players out of this post. Why include them? Also a completely non-committal read on SnB.

yes I think this guy is a pretty good lynch also.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 12 2014 13:32 GMT
#1632
Ritoky:

Hasn't done much towny stuff. But I don't see that much scummy stuff either reading his filter. The TMI stuff IS weird and makes no sense but he is not backtracking, sticking to his guns and agressively so. This guy is new, right? I don't really see a new scum defend this that hard.

Not as good as a lynch as the other 2.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 12 2014 13:40 GMT
#1633
MZ:

The thing I dislike the most here is the VA push. If it's just pure policy it is probably ok but not if MZ really thinks this is VAs scummeta.
He could go either way. I think I would prefer lynching Ketomai/SnB/KotC over him right now.
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
June 12 2014 13:40 GMT
#1634
On June 12 2014 22:22 marvellosity wrote:
I'm willing to believe it was coincidence.

I wish he would address the meat of my case though (ergo, surely he cannot believe that mafia would genuinely try to use the silly reasons batsnacks did to try to lynch someone). I want that rationalised.

It's not as if i believe he's 100% scum for doing it. When i make cases on people i'm not sure about i exaggerate their scumminess to provoke a reaction. Judging what they and others say about the case helps me deduce people's alignments, it's worked in the past. Plus seeing as no-one was on him at the time i thought it would be a good idea to put him under the spotlight. Sadly Bat's reaction didn't help me get a read on him and i'm only more wary of him for trying to direct blues.
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
June 12 2014 13:42 GMT
#1635
Marv I agree with kings superficialness, especially in regards to that "im catching up, better filter dive" post. Problem is that the case seems to be a standard "is he just bad, or mafia" scenario. not a terrible lynch not a fantastic one either. lot lynches like that though it seems.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 12 2014 13:43 GMT
#1636
I like how I'm confirmed town now.

I'll be back in about 2 days.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2014 13:46 GMT
#1637
On June 12 2014 22:40 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 22:22 marvellosity wrote:
I'm willing to believe it was coincidence.

I wish he would address the meat of my case though (ergo, surely he cannot believe that mafia would genuinely try to use the silly reasons batsnacks did to try to lynch someone). I want that rationalised.

It's not as if i believe he's 100% scum for doing it. When i make cases on people i'm not sure about i exaggerate their scumminess to provoke a reaction. Judging what they and others say about the case helps me deduce people's alignments, it's worked in the past. Plus seeing as no-one was on him at the time i thought it would be a good idea to put him under the spotlight. Sadly Bat's reaction didn't help me get a read on him and i'm only more wary of him for trying to direct blues.

i don't understand how you can think he is any scum for doing it, let alone 100%.

also in what world do mafia direct blues?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 12 2014 13:48 GMT
#1638
On June 12 2014 22:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 16:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 12 2014 16:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 12 2014 16:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 12 2014 15:59 Holyflare wrote:
On June 12 2014 15:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
hey, you pointed out my hypocrisy. i guess youve earned an answer then.

i think your push on kush is really shallow and it makes me feel like ive missed something. kind of like last game. lots of your pushes were based on people not doing things and they really bothered me because its an easy agenda for scum to push.

but you were town so what do i know.


how do i read thread someone help


glob glob glob lets talk in a circle


sure okay.

So do you actually think HF is scum?


nah, im making fun of him.

So you think HF is town yet you unvoted Kush citing HF's reasons being shallow (and presumably scummy because of that) despite the fact that his reasons were exactly the same as yours? Explain.

This is another post I don't really see being genuine. Obiwan already said he was making fun of HF. Who really thinks that the things he wrote right before that are scummy then?
I am just not amazed by KotCs contributions. He nitpicks on little things and it seems to me like he has problems finding something to post/is posting for the sake of having posted.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 12 2014 13:54 GMT
#1639
On June 12 2014 22:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 22:40 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 12 2014 22:22 marvellosity wrote:
I'm willing to believe it was coincidence.

I wish he would address the meat of my case though (ergo, surely he cannot believe that mafia would genuinely try to use the silly reasons batsnacks did to try to lynch someone). I want that rationalised.

It's not as if i believe he's 100% scum for doing it. When i make cases on people i'm not sure about i exaggerate their scumminess to provoke a reaction. Judging what they and others say about the case helps me deduce people's alignments, it's worked in the past. Plus seeing as no-one was on him at the time i thought it would be a good idea to put him under the spotlight. Sadly Bat's reaction didn't help me get a read on him and i'm only more wary of him for trying to direct blues.

i don't understand how you can think he is any scum for doing it, let alone 100%.

also in what world do mafia direct blues?

This one.

Medics protect marv's towngroup.

Cops check marv's scumgroup.

Vigis shoot marv's crapshoot group
Computer says mafia
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
June 12 2014 14:07 GMT
#1640
On June 12 2014 22:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 22:40 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 12 2014 22:22 marvellosity wrote:
I'm willing to believe it was coincidence.

I wish he would address the meat of my case though (ergo, surely he cannot believe that mafia would genuinely try to use the silly reasons batsnacks did to try to lynch someone). I want that rationalised.

It's not as if i believe he's 100% scum for doing it. When i make cases on people i'm not sure about i exaggerate their scumminess to provoke a reaction. Judging what they and others say about the case helps me deduce people's alignments, it's worked in the past. Plus seeing as no-one was on him at the time i thought it would be a good idea to put him under the spotlight. Sadly Bat's reaction didn't help me get a read on him and i'm only more wary of him for trying to direct blues.

i don't understand how you can think he is any scum for doing it, let alone 100%.

also in what world do mafia direct blues?

He said Haru was breadcrumbing because he said he'd be posting cases N1. That is in no way a breadcrumb of anything and then he tried to get the medic to protect Haru because of it. It could be read as a bad attempt to divert the medic's attention away from more obvious targets.
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
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